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egg-emperor · 9 months

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Thoughts on the idea of eggman doing horribly vile shit but still wanting to be seen as in the right for it, like “oh I’m not making them slaves it’s protective robot skin haha”

Feel like it could be an interesting twist on his char, kinda got some of those vibes from the park in colors, the full corporate speak and like, trying to make this obviously evil plan look not evil, feel like there’s a lot to be done there

I love love looove it, that's what I was expressing a desire to share more concepts of just the other day. I have some I've been meaning to share but my favorite part is when he finally drops the act and shows his true colors and mocks them for it like a cold hearted bastard so I focus on that most lol. I do wanna delve into the build up more though.

He has indeed done it in various official media already like X, Archie, games, and promo material and I absolutely loved every instance of it. But since I'm a game canon guy primarily I'm just gonna focus on that for this reply, though in the future I'm probably going to share what I liked about the cases even outside them because I appreciate it in many places.

I love how one of the things about how he likes to take things that are generally considered childish like toys, theme parks, carnivals, circuses, etc and has his own twisted fucked up spin on it is how it can also be used to lure people in with the bright colors and usually perceived innocence of it. The times Eggman has played into it is interesting.

With Eggmanland in Unleashed, he was upfront about the hell on earth that it was to Sonic because he knew he wouldn't have believed his trickery, plus he takes pride in the fact. He enjoyed teasing him with the "If you have any complaints, come deliver them to me in person. If you can, that is!" to emphasize that it was the theme park of horror >:)

Plus the atmosphere was a lot darker so despite the neon colors, it probably wouldn't have fooled anyone Sonic or not. But he still had the Eggshop be a thing where horrible sawdust and motor oil tasting food was sold to make it horrible and unpleasant for his sadistic amusement, so maybe he would've hoped to trick people regardless?

We don't get to know for sure there but in Colors he wants lots of visitors and he really had to do some immense trickery make sure it seemed innocent and appealing enough to get them to use a space elevator to travel all the way up there lol. It's a lot more colorful and fun looking than the more dark and polluted looking Eggmanland from afar.

So for the Interstellar Park, the trickery is both in its design and his words with how he pretended it was a happy wonderland of fun with nothing to do with any evil plot or premeditated misdeeds. What I love is how once you've gotten all the way up there in space, you're fucked. You'll get messed up and killed one way or another.

In his PAs when you're actually inside, the act is dropped quick. He lies about some of it being safer than it looks but for the most part? All his lines are brutally honest about how messed up it really is, with the Wisps he harmed, blatantly acknowledges the dangers of the rides and planets, and how they can cause death, horror, and fear.

I love how sadistic he is in the PAs and his morbid humor that reveals how truly sick he is and that this park was created for anything but pure innocent reasons. He intended for the rides to be deadly and food to be bad and finds it very amusing. He probably loves the idea of these tricked people coming in and quickly becoming horrified and afraid.

But it still looks so colorful and fun from afar! It's so beautiful and with the joys he promises, how could you not want to go? So while it works to lure people in, it can also give its true horrors even more impact when visitors expect something nice but the dangerous disturbing and terrifying reality is revealed and I'm sure that's very appealing to him too.

So you get this funny combination of him both trying to deceive you but then quickly becoming brutally honest as soon as you're successfully trapped in it. This is exactly what happened in the SPINGEAR ride too, where he was immediately like "haha sike you're actually in for a terrible time!" as soon as the ride began and was loving it.

But I think the idea of him playing the long game with his trickery and deceit is interesting too. We've mostly only seen cases where it's a lot quicker like that but he's set up well for him to do an elaborate scheme of dragging it out for longer and the impact would hit extra hard after all that time too, which he'd definitely enjoy and mock after.

The Eggman Empire propaganda Sonic Forces promo video was cool because Eggman was trying to convince people the world being a dark polluted hellscape is actually a good thing, which reflects his twisted idea of a "perfect" world shaped his image, where he has the power of the control and the sadistic enjoyment of the harsh conditions.

Then because people obviously need the clean air to live, he tries to trick them into thinking robotomy is a wonderful helpful treatment for it. That never needing to eat, sleep, or think again is a good thing and that they'll love it. When really it's a trick to get them to submit to him, have control over them and strip them of their freedom and free will.

But there's an eerie glimpse at how he really knows none of this right with how he says love is mandatory. Once he's tricked them and they've submitted and given up their freedom and will, he can use them as he pleases and keep them controlled and brainwashed but if they do realize how fucked up it is there's no going back, they're trapped in it now.

I'd really like to see more of that, where he tries to tell people the vile things he does are genuinely great, for their own good, are nice and selfless of him and genuinely beneficial for them. Where he manages to manipulate so well to the point of mass delusion and brainwashing with people that follow him believing he's doing something the right thing.

It's good to be a mindless slave under his control, never having to think for yourself again! Trapping living beings in robots improves upon nature and is better and more beneficial than natural! The deadly attractions are what real fun and excitement really is! The brutal sadistic punishments if they fall out of line is for their own good! There's no meaning to life if it isn't to serve him and the world is better under his control!

And the idea of people actually believing that in the Sonic universe and following him is interesting to think about. Even though it bothers me when people do it in real life and believe his lies and think he actually has good intentions but I mean hey, they give me an example of what it'd be like at least. Eggman really is a good actor, props to him! XD

I have a few ideas I'd like to share in the future. Showing love, care, and false acts of kindness to trick and manipulate, or not even hiding his vile actions but managing to convince people it's good or that the end justifies the means, and have them falling for it and he sees how far he can take it makes it especially impactful and devastating.

Delusion, deceit, manipulation, and gaslighting in general is very fascinating to me after years of experiencing it and I've always wanted to understand it from the perpetrator's perspective and portray it as dark and disturbing as it really is. It's always been interesting for me to explore in Eggman too, from when he's manipulating specific characters to the masses. I've actually been researching big cases of mass delusion in history again lately so this is timely.

Pulling people into the empire with the lie that it's something great that will benefit everyone but their leader has much darker intentions and the true final outcome will benefit only himself, but he strings them along on a lie, brainwashes them, and has control though mind games and trickery is fascinating and thrillingly devious.

Then slowly or abruptly realizing it's a lie and the impact when it all comes crashing down and Eggman spits and laughs in their face and mocks them for having a heart and wanting to see good in him/believing and having hope in good coming from it. It emphasizes his coldness and cruelty and how much of a threat he is even to the mind.

And if that happens he'll try to shut down their doubts and lie more to keep them deluded because he knows just what they want to hear and promises them they'll get it. So if they don't believe it's right, the ends justify the means. And if that doesn't work, he'll threaten them to keep them in so they can't leave, or have them dealt with.

But he's so good at taking advantage of people's vulnerabilities, saying what they want to hear, and embedding lies so deeply into their minds to warp reality into what he wants them to believe that sometimes they may be too far gone and never see the truth. And he takes it to the darkest places, using them all up and harming them and they die in vain.

Every outcome has the potential to be very fascinating, entertaining, and impactful!

#asks #dr eggman #eggman #dr robotnik #dr. eggman #my post #trickery #manipulation #headcanons #deceit

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scruffyplayssonic · 7 months

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Are the ArchieSonic comics actually an 80's/90's syndicated cartoon? Episode 51: Villains team up (part 2)

Welcome back to my look at the ArchieSonic comic series, and how it shared a lot of the same story tropes as a typical ‘80s or ‘90s syndicated cartoon! We’re going to jump right back in from where I left off last time, so let’s continue looking at those times when the bad guys joined forces!

Episode 51: Villains team up (part 2)

Okay, okay, one note before we get back to it. It was pointed out to me that I overlooked one villain team up from before Ian’s time on the book, and that was when Robotnik and Dimitri joined forces to make life miserable for Sonic and Knuckles.

You may remember me talking about this one in the body swap episode, and just how forgettable I thought it was. This just proves my point, because I completely forgot about it when I was putting together this list of villain team ups. 😛 Anyway, let’s move on!

After leaving Snively’s employ the Fearsome Foursome would continue to work with Drago and Sleuth Dawg in their future appearances in the comic, which included their kidnapping of Tommy Turtle. However they wouldn’t officially rebrand themselves as “The Destructix,” until Sonic #162, which is conveniently the story that started our next big villain team-up.

Thanks to the plotting of the mysterious A.D.A.M, both Mammoth Mogul and Ixis Naugus were freed from imprisonment and set their sights on the Crown of Acorns that was resting on the newly crowned Prince Elias’ head. It was a massive battle, with the Freedom Fighters and the Chaotix vs Mammoth Mogul and the Destructix vs Ixis Naugus and the Arachnis children.

However during the battle Mammoth Mogul revealed that centuries ago he had been known as Ixis Mogul, the founder of the Order of Ixis to which Naugus belonged. Naugus immediately recognised Mogul as his Master, and both teams of villains then joined forces against the heroes of Mobotropolis.

Seeing that Mogul had now corrupted the Sword and Crown of Acorns, the knight Sir Connery made a heroic sacrifice to destroy both relics. Before the villains could recover from this setback, Eggman swooped in to prove himself the top villain again, capturing all of Mogul and Naugus’ combined forces with the intention of draining their life force to use as a power source for his city.

The Destructix were later freed from their confinement by the evil Dr. Finitevus, whose goal was to watch the “corrupted” world burn and a new utopia rise from the ashes.

Enlisting the Destructix, Fiona Fox, and Scourge (formerly Evil Sonic) as his enforcers, Finitevus set about corrupting Knuckles and turning into him the new Enerjak.

Scourge and his new pals were mainly just there to stop anyone messing with Fini’s plans. Enerjaknuckles actually caused a new villain alliance though, when he took it upon himself to magically remove the Dark Legion’s cybernetic upgrades. The Legion - Lien-Da especially - were outraged to have been violated in this way, and went to Dr. Eggman asking him to give them new cybernetics. Eggman agreed in return for their servitude, and the Dark Egg Legion was born.

Lien-Da didn’t get the top job though, because Dimitri had already sought out Dr. Eggman to try and get his help stopping Enerjaknuckles.

Our next villain team up came in Sonic #187.

Mammoth Mogul put a bounty on Sonic and pretty much every goon and henchman out there joined forces to attack him. Sonic and Sally did a valiant job of holding them off for as long as they could, but Sonic was eventually taken prisoner and Sally barely escaped with her life. She and Amy teamed up to rescue Sonic, but Mogul publicly denied any involvement in the kidnapping plot. The petty jerk had been messing with Sonic just because he could. :P

I believe this story also marked the first time that Nack worked alongside Bean and Bark, and the three of them would continue to work together going forward all the way up until the end of the Sonic Unleashed adaptation and the cancellation of the ArchieSonic series, rebranding themselves as “Team Hooligan”.

This team-up was even referenced in Sonic Mania, as the Heavy Magician boss disguised itself as all three of these characters. The only time after linking up in the comics that the three of them didn’t work together was during the Pirate Plunder Panic story arc in Sonic Universe, where Bean and Bark were sent to Blaze’s world without Nack.

They found another villain to join forces with in his absence though - the fearsome Captain Metal.

Our next team up is probably the biggest one that ever happened in ArchieSonic, as we got a year-long story arc out of it. After Sonic beat Eggman one time to many and the mad doctor completely lost his marbles…

…it warms my heart every time I see that. :) Anyway, after that happened Snively joined forces with the Iron Queen to rule the Eggman Empire together.

I’ve talked about this one before when I covered the most unique ArchieSonic stories, so I don’t think I need to bother rehashing it here.

Moving into the post-reboot era, we come to the “Eggman’s Dozen,” arc from Sonic Universe #83 - 86.

When his newly built Eggmanland and Metal Sonic were taken over by the Naugus twins and the Witchcarters, Eggman had to turn to his Egg Bosses - the leaders of the various factions of the Egg Army. Several of these bosses were returning from the pre-reboot canon: Ahklut the Orca (with a new Mobian character design), Battle Lord Kukku XV of the Battlebird Armada, Lord Mordred Hood and Conquering Storm. The rest of the bosses were post-reboot characters, several of which were introduced for the first time in this story: Nephthys the Vulture, Clove the Pronghorn, Thunderbolt the Chinchilla, Abyss the Squid, Axel the Water Buffalo and Maw the Thylacine. Eggman paired the bosses up to complete various tasks to help him take back his refinery/amusement park and take down the invaders, but unfortunately most of the bosses did not get along with their new partners and things went downhill quickly. Eggman eventually managed to convince them all to cooperate by taking Axel’s words to heart and using them himself:

The Naugus twins were defeated and Metal Sonic was restored to normal, and Eggman even got another Egg Boss out of this fiasco when Wendy volunteered her services to him. He had been wanting a full dozen bosses anyway, so he didn’t take much convincing.

I just picture Eggman getting off the phone after he’d summoned all eleven Egg Bosses for this mission and having the following conversation:

Eggman: Maw makes eleven. Eleven ought to do it, don’t you think?

Orbot: … (watching tv)

Eggman: …what, you think we need one more?

Orbot: … (watching tv)

Eggman: …you think we need one more.

Orbot: … (watching tv)

Eggman: …okay, we’ll get one more.

And our final villain team up was right near the end of the series, during the conclusion of the Sonic Unleashed adaptation. When Eggman found out about the Freedom Fighters’ secret plans to restore the broken world using the Gaia temples, he sent a strike force of Metal Sonic, the Witchcarters, and the Hooligans to Mobotropolis.

Together they were able to fight off the palace guards, Gemerl, and eventually even King Nigel.

With no other obstacles in their way and the Freedom Fighters occupied by the Tails Doll and the Battlebird Armada, the Hooligans were able to steal the Chaos Emeralds and the Gaia keys from the vault and pass them off to Metal Sonic, who made a clean getaway with them.

That’s all from me for today. Are there any other villain team ups that I missed? Let me know in the comments. There probably are - the comic went on for almost 25 years, I can’t cover everything that happened. I tried to concentrate on the major ones though. Next time I’ll be investigating episode 52: the “Rashomon” homage. You know, that thing where a group of characters can’t agree on what happened and each retell it from their own point of view. See you then!

#archiesonic syndicated

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lea-andres · 1 year

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Omg I wanna ask soooo many questions but I’m so bad at like thinking of them lol😭 Ummmmm idk what’s like the basics of their story, how’d they meet, when’d they start being besties etc etc.😳😳😳😳

Okay, so when or if I ever finish When the Day Met the Night, the next fic in that series is going to be my Werehog fic (there's still no name for it. 😔). TL;DR: Eggman tries to turn Sonic, Shadow, and Silver into Werehogs and enslave them, but he lost control of them (Shadow's half alien DNA led to an... Interesting reaction to the transformation), and they escape out into the world. The Restoration is trying to capture them and turn them back... But it's been rough going. (GUN wants to just shoot the Werehogs and be done with them, they don't even realize they have three Werehogs on their hands until Silver's inside Restoration HQ... it's a mess)

They attempt to lure Shadow into an ambush so they can capture him, which goes SO POORLY you can't even begin to imagine. Pretty much all the power characters left that plan with at least one broken bone... But Infinite rolls up to the party last second and scares off Shadow with the Phantom Ruby's reality altering powers (The gem's been yoinked out of his chest way earlier, also long story. But he still has it and uses it.)

Infinite's sudden appearance startles everyone, because UHHH... Didn't Shadow say the guy got absorbed into the Phantom Ruby and killed after Forces? How is he still alive? (Infinite: ...Shadow told everyone that I got VORED BY A ROCK???)

The Restoration takes Infinite into custody, and they try to bargain with him for further help wrangling the Werehogs. While Infinite would want to help Shadow (a dumb SparkNotes version of @bitter-sweet-coffee 's Follow You happened behind the scenes in my series, we learn), he doesn't give a shit either way what happens to Sonic (remember, they don't know about Silver yet, but he probably wouldn't have been invested in him either.) Plus, what guarantee does he have that they're not going to chase him down and arrest him after this is over?

It's Jewel that offers getting Infinite pardoned for his war crimes in exchange for him helping wrangle the Werehogs, which he very much likes the idea of. Infinite had been hiding out in a penthouse Shadow owns in Spagonia since Forces... And to say he's got a bad case of cabin fever by now would be an understatement. (It's been six years from games/comics canon to my fics, so... He's been in a penthouse by himself/with Shadow when he swings by for a long ass time. 😬)

Anyway, Werehogs are wrangled and turned back, Infinite's been pardoned like promised, and he decides he wants to stick around Restoration HQ... Get to know his new BFF Jewel better~

Jewel's... Not on board with this idea at first. On a good day Infinite mildly irritates her, on a bad day she's ranting to a sympathetic (and VERY PATIENT, poor guy) Bark about how much she can't fucking stand Infinite. He has his uses though. He's been giving her some tips on how to stand up to people that actually work, for example.

She turns around on Infinite during the fic I call my "lesbian pirates fic". The Sol Emeralds fling all the girls into the Sol Dimension because Blaze needs a pirate crew... And Infinite was one of the ones that got yoinked. (Assigned Girl by Klik Klak Shiny Rocks... LOL) Turns out Jewel and Infinite needed to be stuck on a boat together to work out their friendship. Jewel feels bad for Infinite when he tells his sob stories, and he reveals that he does admire Jewel... she just needs a bit more confidence and bad bitch energy, and he thinks he can teach her that.

Infinite really solidifies himself as her friend during Miserably Loving You, when Bark's hag mother Ursa attempts to steamroll his and Jewel's wedding plans. He teams up with Amy and Lanolin to throw Jewel a nice bridal shower to cheer her up, and when they need to go to North Island to stop Ursa from getting the island destroyed by her own idiocy, Infinite's the first one to join Jewel's team.

Skipping WAY ahead into the future, Jewel discovered babies are Finn's off switch. Need him to shut up for a while? Shove your baby into his hands and walk away. She takes FULL advantage of this while Patience and Marzipan are small. 😂

That's all I feel like sharing at the moment. The rest is heavy spoilers. 😂

#infinite the jackal #jewel the beetle #bark the polar bear #bugbear #lea's ocs #ursa the polar bear #patience the bugbear #marzipan the bugbear #lea's trash writing #werehog fic #lesbian pirates fic #miserably loving you

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pumpkinwastaken · 1 year

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Okay so, heres an in depth ramble/review of sonic frontiers! Big spoilers ahead!

Tldr: buy the game its good!

Okay now that i know eyes here are okay with spoilers imma start my revieeeeeeewww! :D

This game sure was something! But i love love loved it! I really liked how it played and the performance was great with only a few hickups in the open world but i could count that on my hand in the 14 hours ive played so far! For the difficulty, i didnt realize till later that you can hold down rb and lb to parry instead of timing it perfectly so me playing on easy was like, this game difficult aaaa! But once i figured out i could hold the buttons the challenge was more moderate for me!

I really enjoyed fishing! The last zone got a bit difficult for me so i used fishing to get the items i needed to progress! Fishing tokens which you need some of per fishing attempt are rare at the start but once you start doing the slot machine minigame that pops up every so often youll get crazy amounts of tokens fast! Also oh my gosh the little kocos are adorable!!! I will protect them with my LIFE! For me the open world was the most fun thing to do, the little stages you have to do to get vault keys are fine but for me getting enough keys could get a bit frustrating in some spots, music in those stages are great though! And also if a stage is too hard just do some fishing for vault keys theres no punishment! But yeah music in those stages are defo worth the few attemps! Music in the overworld also was very nice and relaxing as was fishing lo fi hip hop beats to fish to tm. Boss music tho? Screamer metal just took my by suprise and im so here for it?!?! Its great!

Okay now though i rlly want to gush about the story for a bit. So this is the super duper spoiler part!

So i wont recap the game but i do want to just say some things about it. Like pls give tails and eggman a hug? Especially the ending eggman was just so sad! Dude lost his daughter ; ~ ; and that actually made me tear up like oh my gosh i know eggy is the bad guy in sonic games but dude was rlly nice in this game to listen to. I rlly enjoyed listening to him in every cutscene. Finding out sage is like a daughter to him was super sweet to see. And tails tho? I cried when he was doing his story arc and went like. Sonic the events with infinite rlly fucked me up bro and sonic is like. U okay lill bro, want to talk about it? Pls give tails a hug! I also teared up at the start with amy when we did the koco sidequest and they just died??? And amy is like woah they died?!?! So yeah as you can see im a very easy to make cry person and this story just hit me hard at some spots! Thanks flynn! (Luv ur works im srs!)

Also the idw comics canon now in mainline games??? I heard sonic talk about tangle and it fricking took me off guard! Lets go tangle!

Also most fun thing for me to do in the game was revealing the map by doing all those little minigames!

Now i think ive said what i wanted to say, if ur reading this thanks for reading the full ramble thing i love you! Buy the game its great!! Im not going to say its perfect i still think mania for example is my fav sonic game still but this is by far my favorite game ive played this year!

#text #sonic frontiers spoilers #sonic frontiers #sonic spoilers

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santaverse · 1 year

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Meet the New Santas for 2022!

[ Hello again, everyone! Thank you for all the support towards Part 1 of the fic I posted this morning! I’ll be posting the parts throughout the Holiday Season, so I hope y’all will look forward to North, Nicholas, and Sleepy Santa’s adventure! ]

[ Now onto the exciting part! Here are the Santa Clauses I’ve added this year! ]

( feel free to go to the muse page to get... more or less, more cohesive blurbs about the characters! )

1. Apalpador

The Galician Santa Claus is here! This year, thanks to a movie called Pixi Post and the Gift Bringers (or Pixi Saves Christmas), I’ve added different Santa Claus depictions from around the world! It was a huge learning experience, but a very intriguing one! I hope you all enjoy Apalpador and the other genies from this series!

2. Bolly Santa

This Santa Claus is from an animated music video where he dances in celebration of the ick-vaccine. If that premise alone didn’t hook you on the idea of a Bollywood dancing Santa, then I don’t know what else will!

3. Boomer Santa

Did you know there was a 2006 retelling of the holiday classic; A Year Without a Santa Claus? Well, it exists! And boy, is it a mess! A chaotic movie with an equally chaotic Santa Claus. This dude really gets mad that kids are playing Soul Calibur 2. Mans need to get a GRIP.

4. Cap’n Claus

Leave it to a Nick Jr. Cartoon to give me another compelling Santa Claus! (I’ve gotta thank my Niece for being glued to that channel lol) This Santa Claus is pretty clearly a pirate, right? He’s got the cool clothes and captain’s hat! Well, in all actuality, this Santa Claus spends the entirety of his appearance learning how to be a proper nice pirate! It’s just a pure as it sounds! You’ll definitely get charmed by this Santa. He does these cool poses and winks at the camera a lot- Dude KNOWS he’s cool!

5. Hoteiosho

Celebrated in Japan as a Santa Claus figure, Hoteiosho brought something to my attention that I never noticed. He’s a Buddhist Santa Claus. ...Those two concepts have so much in common, having one as a gift-bringer makes so much sense. He wasn’t in the movie for long (he was captured first), but dang it he’s gonna get his flowers on this blog!

6. JACKED Santa

The Villainous Santa Claus from Captain Underpants!!! I ADORE Captain Underpants, but never watched the Cartoon at all! It’s a shame because I’ve missed out on one of the most hilarious portrayals of Santa Claus yet. He’s an absolute dude-bro meathead who demands you give HIM presents for Blissmas. Amazing, incredible, 10/10, love this guy.

7. Manga Claus

An obscure pick from a mid 2000s book, This Santa Claus may appear docile at first, but when he wields his twin blades (The Miyaguchi Daisho), he reveals his decades of training and absolutely intimidating stature. He’s the definition of edge, and I LOVE it.

8. Monopolish

A Roman Santa Claus who was stripped of his powers once he was revealed to be stealing the glory of his genie counterparts. Now he’s the leader of his own multi-billion dollar company (where some defected elves work for him) in which he plans to capture the other genies and get his powers back. He’s a good villain who shows genuine sorrow for not having any children who believe in him.

9. Olentzero

The Basque Santa Claus! (also voiced by Eggman himself) Olentzero is one of the best reasons to watch Pixi Post and the Gift Bringers. The guy is just an absolutely softie. He’ll always do what he can to help, even if he has no clue what he’s doing. He’s great!

10. Robo Santa

This Santa was recommended to me since this blog’s creation a few years back, and I couldn’t see myself adding any Santa that was overly malicious to the blog. Well, years later and a few bad Santas added, here we are! To be honest I’m still not entirely sure how I’m going to keep his more violent nature in-tact, but a robotic Santa Claus that thinks even the most minute action to be Naughty is just an incredible basis for RPing. I couldn’t say no!

11. Skinny Santa

Definitely the most requested Santa Claus I’ve ever had for this blog, and for good reason! Similarly to Robo Santa, I was against Skinny Santa joining the blog because I never thought there was much to him aside from just being a jerk for the entirety of the movie? But there’s a bit more to his character admittedly, and I have a few jerky Santas here now, so what’s one more?

His addition was long overdue.

12. Snegurochka and Ded Moroz

The Russian / Slavic pair of Santa Clauses! In Pixi Post and the Gift Bringers, the Santa Clauses are referred to as Genies, and Snegurochka (the most difficult name in the world to spell) is the de-facto leader of them all! These two bring such a unique portrayal of a Santa Claus, I had to add them!

13. Sporty Santa

A Santa Claus from a relatively underrated Christmas Special, Sporty Santa is a Santa Claus who is that friendly elderly guy who helps you out at a convenience store, or you see at a sporting event! He’s hidden in plain sight and I just think he’s neat! (PS, I neeeed his sweater, it looks so soft!!)

14. The Three Wise Men

If I was going to add just one Genie/Santa from Pixi Post and the Gift Bringers, it was going to be the Three Wise Men. They’ve had their appearances in cartoons before (they have their own day for crying out loud), but never specifically doing the Santa Claus shtick! They’re full of character in this movie too! Caspar’s got a bit of spice to him, getting the other two in unwanted fights- it’s so great. I’m so excited to show y’all this portrayal of this trio!

[ phew! that’s all! this brings the blog to 64* (not counting duos, trios, or mrs. clauses) Santas! WOW, I never really expected to find this many new Santas, but each year I seem to find or be recommended something with a unique Santa portrayal! The goal of this year was to be the last Santas added... but I already have my eye on some Santas that are in animated projects lauching next year, sooo.... looks like there really isn’t an end to the Santaverse! ]

[ I’ll be making a Starter Call very soon! Until then, thank you & Happy Almost Holidays!! ]

#OUT OF COOKIES || (ooc post)#[ i was going to make this post sooner but i finished editing the drabble thing yesterday at 3 am and just crashed afterwards ]#[ ANYWAYS YEAH! NEW SANTAS ]#CHESTNUT CAREGIVER || ( apalpador! )#THE GLUE THAT BINDS THE GENIES || ( snegurochka and ded moroz! )#THE JOLLY ROWER || ( hoteiosho! )#THE ONE TRUE GENIE || ( monopolish! )#THE HUMBLE WORKER || ( olentzero! )#THE ORIGINAL GIFT BRINGERS || ( three wise men! )#YO-HO-HO || ( cap'n claus! )#MOVES LIKE SANTA || ( bolly santa! )#A SLAM DUNK SANTA || ( sporty santa! )#THE X-MAS SCOURGE || ( robo santa! )#BLISSMAS BEEFCAKE || ( jacked santa! )#SCROOGE OF A SANTA || ( boomer santa! )#WHOEVER HEARD OF || ( skinny santa! )

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incorrectsmashbrosquotes · 3 years

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Leaf's Conspiracy

Leaf: Okay, I got a conspiracy theory. So, Sephiroth got added recently, and Cloud hates his guts.

Cloud: Don’t. Remind. Me.

Leaf: And it got me thinking. Something about this seems odd. So, I did bit of research on the computer, and that’s when I came to my conclusion.

Leaf, slapping a board: Someone’s after the blondes!

Everyone: …

Link: What?

Leaf: Think about it. Ever since Ultimate started, have you noticed that the blondes have been suffering? Samus has not only Ridley, the guy who probably ate her parents…

Ridley: I did, actually. And it was delicious.

Leaf: ….But also Dark Samus. Two people out to get her! Rosalina got Daisy. She was still salty about being in a Smash Bros game AFTER Rosalina got in.

Rosalina: Huh? Daisy isn’t out to get me.

Daisy, holding a bat behind her back: (Speaking through seething rage with a smile) OF COURSE NOT.

Leaf: Peach got stuck with Piranha Plant.

Peach: Piranha Plant isn’t that bad. They just like biting my arm…a lot….especially when I’m asleep…

Leaf: Ken got stuck with Terry, who based on a poll I took count of, is hotter than him.

Ken: What poll is this?!

Terry: I mean…

Ken: You stay out of this, trucker hat!

Leaf: Link and Zelda are technically new versions prior to the previous ones, so they’re stuck with Ganondorf.

Link: That’s how it always is.

Leaf: And Min Min unfortunately has to deal with fights breaking out in her restaurant.

Min Min: I broke up three fights the other day.

Leaf: As you can see, most, if not all, of the blondes here have some sort of adversary. And that can only mean one thing. Sooner or later, a blonde is going to suffer again.

Leaf flips the board, revealing Porky: I am sorry Lucas. We can’t throw out the possibility

Lucas: What? He’s not coming.

Leaf: What makes you say that? He doesn’t have a spirit.

Lucas: Spirits don’t deconfirm. Min Min is right there.

Leaf: Neither does not having a spirit.

Lucas: …Okay, well….

Luigi: Could be worse. Your brother could come.

Everyone: ….

Mario: Bro.

Luigi: …Sorry.

Leaf: That aside, Lucas isn’t the only one in danger. Dr. Eggman could come.

Sonic: But I’m not blonde.

Leaf: You are sometimes.

Sonic:…Oh no, she’s right!

Leaf: Which leads me to the other point. Mario hasn’t been exactly lucky in these Smash trailers. He’s been killed by Ridley, punched by Sonic so hard he flew into another dimension, blown up by a creeper, and nearly killed by Sephiroth. These next few trailers could show anything happening.

Marth: Okay, what are you getting at?

Leaf: Someone has it out for Mario, and some of the blondes in Smash. The only question is, who could have access to Nintendo’s library of evil people, and has something out for Mario?

Banjo: Hmm…It’d have to be someone who can communicate with Nintendo characters fluently…

Hero: While also being able to get a Square character in…

Kazooie: And they’re probably hairless.

Everyone: ….

ROB: It’s Crazy Hand.

Fox: That makes sense.

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theroguejackal · 2 years

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Ok people I have some bad news......I'm leaving tumblr for a little bit

don't worry I won't be gone long just leaving until april 17th

about 16 , 15???

reason is a few days ago I went on Youtube and there was a spoiler video that popped up and just by looking at the blurry picture of the video it revealed an entire scene to me I knew just by looking at it what the scene was going to be about but at first I thought it was fan made until out of nowhere the video started playing and then I realized that it wasn't fan made I think it could have been real or just made by someone with very good 3D editing/animating skills I got out of the video ASAP but I just can't get the spoiler out of my head the litterally image of what I saw is still in my head and I need a BIG distraction to get it out or at least something to help me try to forget about it until I see the movie

sooooo byeeeeeee see you guys on the 17th probably later that night since that's the day I go see Sonic 2

ps. I know I only mentioned youtube in the reason why I'm temporarily leaving but it's just the spoilers are also everywhere on tumblr and I don't want to be spoiled anymore, a friend of mine from school is litterally looking up spoilers to kinda get on my nerves but the good thing is he promised to to tell me anything, and I wanna save my self from anymore spoilers on tumblr, anywhere actually and when you look up sonic as much as I do spoilers ar bound to appear at anytime I try to avoid them I really do but somehow they always manage to find me

so goodbye everyone see you on the 17th

Also

WE MADE IT TO THE 5 DAY MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sonic 2 litterally hits theaters in 5 days 6 hours and 31 minutes

and before I leave I never pointed these out but

1. I just gotta say Tails's tails are so FLUFFY!!!!!!!!!!!

and

2. I just know that there's gonna be a scene of betrayal between robotnik and knuckles

I mean c'mon it's obvious that knuckles is being tricked by robotnik somehow like in SonicX eggman comes up with a good enough lie for knuckles to believe and he fall for it and is tricked into attacking sonic and then once eggman gets what he wants he tells knuckles the truth and betrays him now I gotta stop talking about this other wise I'm probably going to predict what happens throughout the entire movie soooo goodbye friends see you soon

#sonic 2 #I HATE SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#see you real soon #5 days left #15 or 16 days left til I see the movie

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autisticshadowthehedgehog · 4 years

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The Babylon Rogues are Dimension Hoppers and I can prove it

[ID: The Babylon Garden flying through space, as seen at the end of Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity. End ID.]

I have several points to make in this theory, so I’ll make this intro brief. Here is what I will be attempting to prove in this fun little essay:

The Babylonians are not native to Mobius

They are, in fact, native to Blaze’s dimension

They used to be dimension hoppers, but after the fall of the Babylon Garden they had to cease activity

The dimension-hopping can be proven by looking at Blaze’s world, Sonic Boom, possibly Black Knight, and finally and most damningly, the Arabian Nights of Sonic and the Secret Rings.

Let’s continue.

Babylonians are (canonically?) not native to Mobius

Very quickly, let’s go over some important lore for this theory. This might seem a bit “boring” for the moment, but please give it a read for context.

[ID: Ancient ruins showing the legendary Divine Wings, as seen in Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity. The Divine Wings looks similar to a spaceship, with two orbs atop and four “wings.” End ID.]

A bit of detail is given in Sonic Riders as to the Ancient Babylonians, such as that they are believed to have been genies. (Remember that specifically for later.) Their incredibly advanced technology marked them as separate from the other ancient cultures.

As revealed in Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity, the Ancient Babylonians believed in a legendary bird known as the Divine Wings. From what we can gather from what Tails is aware of and Knuckles reads from ancient inscriptions, the legends say that the Divine Wings rode the gods through the heavens, but lost their plumes to the dark and fell to the ground. The plumes became “stars,” returning to the land- these “plumes” (the Arks of the Cosmos) being the power sources that were sought after throughout the game.

Tails eventually concludes that the Divine Wings was a spaceship, and that this “lightless black” that attacked the Divine Wings turns out to have been an actual Black Hole; while Tails believes it may have been programmed into the Arks as a warning “for people to step away from power beyond control,” what actually seems to have happened, though, may have been less of an intentional precautionary measure and more of a malfunction. It’s just as likely that the Arks went out of control either by themselves (as technology is want to do) or due to something in the planet’s atmosphere, threatening to turn their ship’s engine into the black hole.

Unable to control the Black Hole, the Babylonians then lost their ability for space travel; they disconnected the Arks from their ship, sending them into the planet’s orbit. Their ship, the Babylon Garden, crashed onto the planet; while it still floated, they were unable to leave the atmosphere, and thus wished for every “falling star” to be their Arks to help them return home. They only managed to recover two over time, both of which were sealed away separately until it was safe to relaunch their ship.

[ID: The Arks scattering throughout space, from Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity. End ID.]

The Babylon Garden remained floating and the Babylonians resided there, eventually becoming notorious thieves, though they are also famous for their technology, including their magic carpet (again, note for later) and “angel wings” they gave a boy that gave him a bit too much power.

This “too much power” seems to have “incurred the wrath of the gods;” the Babylon Garden was buried beneath the Sand Ruins, while the Babylonians scattered, though the Key to the Garden was passed along. Their history, though, turned into legend.

[ID: Art showing an angel-like creature striking lightning down onto the Babylon Garden. End ID.]

So, here is the “proposed” timeline:

Babylonians are aliens

Crash land on Mobius

Become thieves

Gods get pissed and “tower of babel” them

sidenote, but considering the known gods of the Sonicverse are Chaos, Illumina, Light/Dark Gaia and Solaris... I’m literally losing my mind imagining this unlikely group banding together and saying “yeah. yeah these birds need to go”

But here’s a question... what if it wasn’t a spaceship at all?

What if the ship could hop not across different planets, but through different worlds?

The Babylonians were not aliens from another planet, but from another dimension.

And the first of my evidence is that Babylon has actually been seen in another canonical dimension.

Babylon Exists (but is abandoned) in Blaze’s World

Who here remembers Sonic Rush Adventure?

[ID: A stage logo from Sonic Rush Adventure. It reads “Sky Babylon” and features a purple jewel among leaves. End ID.]

Very clearly, a certain “Babylon” does appear in Blaze’s dimension (which we’ll call the Sol Dimension for clarity’s sake). And this isn’t just speculation; the pirates and Blaze refer to the ruins as “Sky Babylon” within the game.

From what Blaze says, Sky Babylon was inhabited by an ancient civilization, and was a continent in the sky. However, one day “it fell from the sky and crashed into the ocean.” Quite similar to the Babylon Garden, huh? After the continent fell, the people had to live among the land-dwellers, but longed one day to return to the sky, leaving keys to point the way.

Sidenote: Blaze later finds ancient writings discussing the ruins- eerily similar to how Tails and Knuckles found out about the Divine Wings in Zero Gravity. And the writing says “To reach our homeland, head north along the shallows.”

[ID: Screenshot from Sonic Rush Adventure, of the Sky Babylon stage. Sonic is swinging on a rope beside pillars. End ID.]

So, let’s review similarities between Blaze’s Babylon and Sonic’s Babylon:

Ancient Civilizations living in floating cities

The continent later fell from the sky and crashed, becoming lost overtime

The people had to live on the planet but longed to return to the sky

Keys were left; the word “key” refers in Blaze’s world to the signs explaining how to reach Sky Babylon, while in Sonic’s world the key is the ability to open the Babylon Garden, left to Jet.

Ancient Writings were left explaining the lore.

Now I’m sure you’re all thinking, “Gee, Connie, it’s probably just the other dimension’s versions of the Babylonians, just as Blaze is another dimension counterpart to Sonic and Marine is the counterpart to Tails.”

But something interesting- almost nothing in Blaze’s world shares the same name as Sonic’s world. Even ones with similar names have notable differences- Eggman is Eggman Nega, the Chaos Emeralds are the Sol Emeralds, etc. And that’s literally the only two things with similar names, unless you count the South Island/Southern Island thing. (Which are. very common names.) Babylon is exactly the same in both dimensions.

“But it’s Sky Babylon and the Babylon Garden, that’s different-” No, actually. The Babylon Garden were the spaceship, and only became a homeland after crashing. Sky Babylon is referred to exclusively as the Babylon Homeland. So what if Sky Babylon was their home base, and the Garden was their ship?

This also isn’t the only dimension with hints of Babylonians.

Babylonian Hints in Other Dimensions

Now these two may be reaches, but they’re just setup to when we hit the big guns, so strap in.

In a canonically different dimension to the main games, the Sonic Boom games have several floating cities with very little backstory.

[ID: The Sky Citadel in Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric. Though abandoned, it is in good condition, and features several stone pillars and hanging plants. The citadel is among the sky and vaguely foggy, as it stands above the clouds. End ID.]

In Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric, Team Sonic finds their final chaos crystal in the Sky Citadel, an enormous city located within the clouds; however, it has been long since abandoned, with only ruins remaining. In Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal, Lyric imprisons Amy in Cloud Sanctuary, which are several floating islands joined by roads and hidden by the clouds. Once again, in the sanctuary are ancient ruins; there are no remaining people, only remnants of a lost civilization, with zero explanation as to what this city is or was.

It is assumed that both of those worlds are remnants from the Ancients like Lyric the Snake; however, unless I’m mistaken, there is no confirmation of this, only the news that the Ancients hid the Sky Crystal in the Sky Citadel in order to keep it from Lyric; there’s no word that they lived there. In fact, wouldn’t hiding a chaos crystal from Lyric in a place that he lived be a really bad idea? Not a great hiding spot, guys.

Another sidenote, but speculation: should, as I’m sure you’re inferring I’m implying, these lands have belonged to the Babylonians of the Boom!Universe, who is to say that they didn’t find the hidden Sky Crystal and steal it? They’re notorious thieves after all.

The Sonic Boomniverse also has ancients with insanely powerful tech... hmm.

Secondly, let’s bring in Sonic and the Black Knight. You see, on the modern Babylonians’ ship, a painting of a pirate hawk is hanging above Jet’s desk. It has been speculated to be Jet’s father, or at least an ancestor. In this portrait, this captain holds a sword.

Now, let’s, um. Compare that sword to Caliburn, one of the sacred swords of Camelot.

I’m gonna be honest; at least to my untrained eye, I believe that the Babylon Sword pictured here is very similar in color and shape to Caliburn. The connector to the blade may be a bit more rounded like Laevatin, however that may just be the blurriness of the portrait. Now how would a Babylonian locked in Sonic’s dimension get access to Caliburn?

Well, you say, Sonic was transported to another dimension in Black Knight, wasn’t he? So they could have been summoned at some point, that’s not evidence they purposefully hopped dimensions.

But let’s go back to that. Sonic was transported to another dimension in Black Knight... and also in that other Sonic Storybook.

Which one was that again?

The Big Guns: Sonic and the Secret Rings

[ID: Concept art from Sonic and the Secret Rings. End ID.]

Let’s talk about the source of the name Babylon for a moment.

Babylon was also a city on Earth; it was in ancient Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq. The name at the time derived from the Akkadian bav-il or bav-ilim, meaning “Gate of the Gods.” The city was featured in several stories within Abrahamic culture- the Tower of Babel (which I referenced earlier!), the enslavement of Jerusalem resulting in the famous stories of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. In at least Jewish and Christian tradition, Babylon symbolizes oppressors and worldliness. The city is even personified in the Christian book of Revolutation as the Whore of Babylon.

But outside of this reputation, the city is known as an archeological marvel; very impressive architecture, an interesting code of law, and one of the seven wonders of the world, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, a tiered garden.

Sources: Mark, Joshua J. J. “Babylon.” Ancient History Encyclopedia, Ancient History Encyclopedia, 23 Oct. 2020, www.ancient.eu/babylon/, also the fact I am and was raised Christian so I Know This Christian Stuff™ just trust me

There’s more I could get into, but I’m sure you’re already bored- yeah, yeah, Sonic Team named their cool ancient civilization after another cool ancient civilization, who cares? Here’s why I mentioned this, though: Babylon was in what is now Iraq. Iraq, as anyone with a georgraphy education would know, is in the Middle East of the planet. Know what else is in the middle east?

The Arabian Nights.

Know what the Arabian Nights influenced heavily, almost exclusively?

The first Sonic Storybook, Sonic and the Secret Rings.

[ID: A screenshot from Sonic and the Secret Rings, showing Shahra the Genie and Sonic having a discussion. End ID.]

Remember all the way back in the beginning when I mentioned genies and magic carpets being a staple of SonicWorld Babylon? Well, genies are definitely canon to the Arabian Nights World, with Shahra and Erazor Djinn, and the idea of a magic carpet, while not appearing in Secret Rings, is very much a middle eastern staple, which most modern people connect to Aladdin, which Shahra references first and constantly throughout the game.

Now, two very interesting dimensional instances are featured within Secret Rings. First off- the titular seven rings.

[ID: Three screenshots of a scene from Sonic and the Secret Rings; Sonic and Shahra are attempting to grab a blue water ring. Sonic says, “Looks like I’m the only one that can touch [the rings]. I betcha it’s because I’m not from this world. Does that mean these rings aren’t from this world, either?” End ID.]

The rings, though insanely powerful, cannot be touched by anyone but Sonic. While it’s never confirmed, Sonic theorizes that the reason for this is that the rings are also from another dimension, possibly even his own. Now how would rings from another dimension end up in the Arabian Nights?

The second dimensional fun thing is one of the bosses in this game- the Ifrit.

[ID: Screenshot from Sonic and the Secret Rings. The Ifrit Golem rises from a fire pit. Sonic is shocked, and Shahra exclaims, “It’s a djinn that controls fire... it’s called an Ifrit!” End ID.]

Now, I could go a lot into certain theories about the Ifrit, but my sister covered that topic pretty well with her kickass Infinite/Solaris theory. So instead let’s just cover the basics.

Ifrit’s name also has sources in Abrahamic mythology, though this one is specifically from Islam. It is a powerful demon, usually identified with spirits of the dead. The whole “death” thing isn’t really brought into this but, you know. Interesting.

In Secret Rings, the Ifrit Golem is summoned by Erazor Djinn in order to burn pages of the Arabian Nights. It seems to be vaguely robotic, but considering it was summoned and seems to be alive I assume it’s just possessing some kind of robotic form, but most importantly it is mostly brown and red and is able to control fire. When Erazor summons it, he claims it is condemned by Iblis (a powerful djinn in Islamic mythology, former angel cast out of heaven, but also literally half of a god in Sonic 06, which was in production around the same time as Secret Rings) and also says he summoned it from Jahannam, basically hell.

[ID: A loading screen from Sonic Rivals 2, showing the Ifrit there, breathing fire. End ID.]

Ifrit also appears, however, in another game released the same year; Sonic Rivals 2. And it is mentioned to, again, be from another dimension. It is summoned by Eggman Nega to destroy the world, but is defeated by the Sonic Squads™ and eventually left trapped in its own dimension. It is, once again, incredibly fire-based, colored red and brown, and actually has mind control powers now, so that’s cool for it I guess.

So in two games, released the same year, Ifrit is connected to different dimensions; Arabian Nights, Jahannam, its own hell-dimension (possibly Jahannam?), and also a bit of Mobius, as Gerald Robotnik was noted to have studied the Ifrit’s legendary power.

So Secret Rings has rings from another dimension, and a fire demon from another dimension. Also a blue hedgehog shows up and does some stuff there idk. Which means that Secret Rings is no stranger to other dimensions popping in and out.

What this whole tangent is leading to- Arabian Nights is clearly connected to dimension-hopping. And Babylon is connected to the Arabian Nights by several things- specifically, the name and history, the magic carpet, and the genies.

(Does that make Jet and Shahra distant cousins?)

Also another interesting thing: the Levitated Ruins.

[ID: A screenshot from Sonic and the Secret Rings. Sonic is running through the sky, and we see several manta-ray like creatures, called the rukh, with cities built upon their backs. End ID.]

The towns there are built on the back of flying rukh flying through the atmosphere.

Flying ruins again? Interesting.

Very fucking interesting.

Conclusion

[ID: Screenshot from Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity. The Babylon Rogues look up at the sky, where the Babylon Garden is flying into orbit. End ID.]

So, let’s get down the facts:

Despite almost everything in Sol having a different name than in Mobius, the Babylonians have the same name.

Sky Babylon in Sol was considered the Babylon Homeland, but abandoned after it fell into the sea.

The Babylon Garden was some kind of ship, but it crashed on Earth.

The Babylonians in both dimensions longed to return to the sky and left keys for their descendants to make that possible.

The Babylonians are connected by visual cues to Sonic Boom abandoned cities (with no word on who lived there or where they went), and possibly even Black Knight.

Due to their name, similar technology, and the legends of genies, the Babylonians are also connected to the Arabian Nights.

Arabian Nights itself has a lot of dimensional shenanigans going on.

The Babylonians are connected to Sol, Mobius, Sonic Boom, Black Knight and/or Arabian Nights.

So. What conclusions did I draw from this?

Some thousand or so years ago, the Babylonians, originating in Sol, had the technology to hop between dimensions.

Considering they later became notorious Mobian thieves, we can assume that thievery was also in the picture during these ancient times. How easy would it be to be a thief with dimensional powers? You steal something, hop dimensions, and then hop back when the cops are gone.

Either the first dimension they went to or their main hangout was the Arabian Nights; they picked up a lot of the culture/tech, such as magic carpets and genie myths. Possibly due to this, the Arabian Nights has an open connection to other worlds.

Perhaps the Seven Rings actually came from Babylon, stashing these cool new gems into their inbetween world and forgetting to pick them up.

They set up some cities on flying manta rays, nbd.

They also hopped into the Sonic Boom dimension, where they made some sky cities to rest in inbetween dimension hops. Upon their ship’s failure, the sky cities were left abandoned.

They also may have visited the Black Knight dimension.

During one of their dimension hops, their ship, the Babylon Garden, goes to the Mobius dimension; however, something in their tech fucks up within this dimension’s boundaries/atmosphere.

This one’s just a wild speculation, but if they came from Sol, Sol and Mobius have different emeralds, so I think they may have different power sources.

In order to prevent a Black Hole from destroying them and this other dimension, the Babylonian travelers split their power and fall into Mobius. There, they live on their Garden until it falls.

Back in Sol, Sky Babylon also ends up falling; perhaps whatever caused the Garden to fall hit Sky Babylon, or perhaps some other disaster occurred before Babylon Prime could figure out what happened to their Garden.

The Sol Babylonians settle among the land.

Eventually they all either forget the dimension hopping or it becomes secret as fuck.

So what’s the full conclusion?

It’d be really funny if the Babylonians learned the Arabian Nights prophecy about a blue hedgehog saving their world and passed that story along forever but it just went completely over Jet’s head because the second he saw Sonic his gay kill bill sirens went off and he was like “I have to race him” and it takes him years to remember.

#sonic the hedgehog #sonic riders #sonic riders zero gravity #jet the hawk #sonic and the secret rings #babylon rogues #sonic theory #connie theories #mine

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robotnik-mun · 3 years

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Tails, Eggman, and Cream (re: Little Planet if applicable)!

Tails - Favourite continuity? (Games, Comics or one of the Cartoons etc.)

Despite everything and all my issues with it? Pre-Reboot Archie.

SatAM was great but it was cancelled right around the time I learned it even existed, and it would be years before I could enjoy the show in its entirety. And then of course there was the fact I wouldn’t properly play the Genesis games until eventually getting Sonic Jam, so that meant for the most part? Archie Sonic was my go-to Sonic media, and it ultimately became the comic book I most invested in. I almost had every issue and special at one point, and being young, none of the problems with it really became clear to me- I just enjoyed it because it had Sonic in it, heh.

That being said, as time went on, I began to enjoy it because of the fact it was SatAM based and yet also included stuff from the games, and I enjoyed a lot of the lore that was produced from it... it pretty much helped shape my idea of ‘Sonic’ entirely, and that includes all the stuff that went into Knuckles. Even to this day, in my heart of hearts, I can never really de-attach from this iteration of Sonic.

Obviously, a lot of the polish has come off since the olden days. While as I got older and better informed about reading I started to realize a lot of the writing wasn’t as good as I remembered, the whole Lawsuit thing really opened the floodgates after @fini-mun directed me towards Penders’ forum... seeing his conduct there opened my eyes to the fact that not only was a lot of the stuff he made that I loved badly, badly written, but he himself was kind of an awful guy, and that awfulness underlay everything he wrote, ESPECIALLY with regards to Sally.

Despite everything though... I still like it. I like it because I like how it interpreted things in the days before SEGA really began to solidify its idea of what Sonic was, and I like it because it incorporates so much from different parts of Sonic. And I like it despite how heavily flawed it was for much of its existence, and for the IDEA of the lore it presented even if the actual execution missed the mark more often than not. It was a pretty big fixture in my life for a very long time, and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t still attached to it.

...it’d probably be ‘perfect’ to me if Julian had remained, but oh well.

Eggman - Favourite badnik or henchmen?

That’s not entirely clear given that a ‘Badnik’ is something I see as specifically being those robots powered by animals used throughout the early games and later own, while a ‘henchman’ has different connotations entirely. But what the heck, I can answer both.

My favorite BADNIK are the Eggrobos.

What can I say, I find them neat. I like the idea that they are the upper crust of Eggman’s badniks, his elite forces, and because of that fact they are modeled in his own image. It just says so much about the guy right there, and I enjoy thinking of them as the ‘Officer Corps’ of the Badniks- robots who will act as Eggman’s proxies when he himself cannot be present.

Now as for Henchman? Unsurprisingly, it’s Snively.

I love this little bastard, and he really is one, yet at the same time he’s rather pitiable despite how despicable he is. Being Robotnik’s lackey and personal punching bag would make you feel bad for the guy enough, but the reveal that he is in fact Robotnik’s own nephew and once admired the guy adds a surprisingly potent layer of tragedy to Snively. Likewise, it puts a new spin on his own ambitions to overthrow his uncle and run the show himself- he’s not merely power hungry for his own sake, but actively trying to outdo a man who spent the last decade treating him like dirt and calling him an incompetent. He has something to prove, and I think that’s part of why he’s destined to ultimately fail... which adds to the tragedy, especially with the way Archie expanded upon him and his background, while presenting the idea that there is a SLIVER of decency within him in that despite everything, he still legitimately loves his half-sister Hope.

It presents a surprisingly complicated picture of a guy whose entire role is being Robotnik/Eggman’s treacherous, power hungry little lackey, but damn if it isn’t compelling.

Cream - Any Headcanons?

I got a tiny one about the Little Planet. I believe that the Little Planet isn’t a natural phenomenon, but is in fact an artificially created planet that was made by one of the ancient Great Civilizations (one of the ones that pre-date the Echidna, obviously). It was specifically created to house the Time Stones and to test out their time travel abilities, though why the Great Civilization would do it is still a mystery, as is HOW they created an entire world to begin with.

Furthermore? The Lost Hex is in fact an incomplete ‘Little Planet’.

Whoever created the Little Planet simply vanished before they could finish the Lost Hex, but either way, the Little Planet and the Lost Hex as ‘brothers’ in a sense... and why the ancients vanished so suddenly is even more mysterious than the both of them.

#newthinkerer

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gayemeralds · 2 years

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Hiiii can tou tells us more about your forces rewrite

i don’t have a whole lot sorted through but i know these key points (also these are probably spoilers but i can’t really promise when i’d be able to write this so hopefully everyone will jsut forget)

more explorations on infinite using his literal reality bending skills

sonic still ends up captured by infinite in the beginning but the battle is MUCH longer and way tougher for infinite because SONIC”S KILLED GODS inifnite ain’t shit he just took him off guard

sonic attempts to fight infinite during his prison and accidentally activates the ruby when reaching out to grab infinite

the energy the ruby is made out of is inverted chaos energy so sonic’s able to use it pretty easily but also it is Fucking Him up Badly

eggman sees sonic use the ruby and decides OHOHOHHOHO EXPERIMENT TIME BABAYYYYYYY

sonic becomes a reoccurring boss battle, occasionally along with infinite

they’re still split up- tails feels intense guilt over what happened to sonic and runs away from everyone to save sonic by himself. he befriends and fixes omega and eventually shadow and the two go on the hunt to find sonic

meanwhile knuckles and amy and the rest of the rebellion focus on kicking infinite’s ass (not going well)

also- shadow didn’t actually kill infinite’s crew- eggman used the ruby on infinite and manipulated him into thinking all of his family was dead. infinite eventually turns on eggman and joins the rebellion

unfortunately.... sonic gets revealed to be infinite’s lackey and UH OH

basically sonic ends up being the big bad guy you’ll end up fighting because he just has a complete fucking breakdown

all the experiments have scrambled sonic’s memories and he’s lead to believe his friends have betrayed him- sonic’s not completely on eggmans side though and the last battle has sonic using the emerald to try to protect himself; it uses his memories and past enemies and the like as bosses for everyone to defeat. sonic doesn’t entirely believe that they’ve come to rescue him. he’s just really fucking confused

eventually though tails and the others talk him down and they knock the ruby out of him and its real emotional

#im still working out how i want sonic to be the boss battle other than i just want him to be the boss battle #but i need it to be in character or else. BORING.#sega official speaks

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cutegirlmayra · 4 years

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When your tired after a 16hr shift yesterday so you rant about Sonic and explain why aggressive writing vs. neutral writing helps with sharing ideas

Me and my online Sonic friend talking about Belle. (I’m skipping some dialogue throughout the chat, this was lazily put together lol)

WARNING: It’s long, and it’s a rant. So please note that I’m blatantly aware of how wrong my aggressive, sleep-deprived rant was and that I’m stating “DON’T PRESENT YOUR IDEAS LIKE THIS!” because this is not a healthy nor effective way of sharing ideas.

ALSO, ALL THE MENTIONS OF WHAT I BELIEVE MY FRIEND IS FEELING OR THINKING DURING MY RANT ARE ENTIRELY MY OPINON. If she tells me to delete something or change it I will without hesitation but I find it funny, as I look back, to insert what I think might be going on in her mind XD She might have been oblivious to me but I’ll get her thoughts and change anything if necessary.

It’s also how most trolls and antis and even some ‘not experienced writers’ write their ideas out, and it can be easily avoided by using Neutral Writing Methods. So this is a ‘don’t do this, but try this’ post. Enjoy my badly written, sleepy aggressive rant~<3 (Also, my friend gave me permission to share this lol)

Me: She could be for entertaining little kids. But we already have too many OCs, and they're not 'dying off' any time soon so...I smell a mini-series backup plan...and I don't like what that means for Sonic. And it is cute, sorry, my brain is off the hook right now, I'll keep things to myself cause you may not like what I'm predicting and I'm getting sad thinking about it ;-; so, want to be wrong.

(Friend mentioned “Tinker Bell” spin on name.)

That's precious, but can I get a link to the reference sheet plz? Reference sheets can tell a lot about a chara's functionality if you compare it to the 'needs' of the casts. it can help predict their role. I think she's meant to help but also entertain the kids, maybe planted with a secret. Her goal could be to come back to Mr. Tinker but Eggman abuses that and tricks her into a new robot. I got a weird theory about her but I'll just say that she's probably gonna go a bit dark. But be cute and make the audience go, "Aww, poor thing! She's a cinnamon roll" at first, wonder if they'll equip her with 'happy backstory, tragic ending' kinda thing to switch the usual 'tragic backstory happy ending' but I feel this is a tragic character meant to pull emotion out.

(Friend understands my concerns but mentions there hasn’t been a ‘Bad’ Oc for the comic)

No one sets out to create a 'bad character' especially professional writers like these guys. But what makes a character 'bad' is if you ruin or oversaturate their purposes. If she's a main character that over-shines others with too much story then the audience feels 'betrayed' because they want that screen time for the main casts to express themselves and shine through. That's just an example. When working with IPs like Sonic casts, you HAVE to remember the fanbase is expecting things Do you like my OCs? be honest lol Not from my prompts. There's a specific way to handle a OC that helps the main cast shine and reveals their characters more. AU Ocs help Canon Characters in many ways.

(Friend admits they have not seen my OCs in some of my fanfictions, they’ve only really read my prompts.)

Oh, well, some of my fanfictions have OCs, not Lavinya, she's just a mascot. My Sonic OC that retried XD Sorry, I'm misspelling a lot but I hope you don't mind, my spellcheck sucks and I've given up on it lol Oh, so you don't know Harmony, Ol'Wizzy, and Data?Or the Metal Series? Well, there are specific Ocs that my readers like and they express/compliment the canon characters to where even though they're a main character, they don't intervene with the Main Cast's goals. They actually help. Then everything I'm gonna say won't have much merit so I'll just focus on waiting to see if my predictions for Sonic IDW will come true, but I really hope they don't do what it looks like they strategically might be pulling... I hate SEGA marketing-

(The beginning of my aggressive rant, please note that I’m not thinking about my image and am writing tired and lazy. This is an example of how NOT to express your opinions in negative ways. It doesn’t influence good at all.)

Their ploys are outdated and frankly, do not work for their IPs market. They target the wrong age group, they have no idea how to organize themselves, and they don't have a leading 'elder' so to speak (just a professional among them) to make good calls. So you have young adults (not super professionals, this might be their first real company job) trying to target internet culture and failing their IPs. They're doing outdated Nintendo tactics that only worked for NINTENDO! Also some other companies that have DIED so why are you copying their marketing strats!? stop! lol

Friend: Did you study marketing because this entire convo kinda flew over my head in terms of understanding (This should have indicated to me that my words were coming off too factual and had too many ‘jargons’ going on. I was losing my ‘reader’ through my rant, but my tired brain would not cease!)

Sonic's trying to morph into something he's not and they're following outdated college course books and it's not gonna help... they're leading Sonic further down and the creators in japan have no power cause all the power is in the stock holders who are stupid money-hungry americans who have lost faith in American SEGA leading SEGA of Japan to move on to other things

Friend: mostly just got you don’t like the marketing (Huge red flag! This means my friend is starting to tune my info out, it’s because I’m presenting my ideas in a slightly aggressive writing style. There are trigger words here that lead an reader to start doubting you. This is why, in most of my answer posts, I make sure to write Neutral writing methods, but I’ll mention that more after my rant lol XP)

It's just bad. Lol I have a Frankenstein degree, (Now I’m justifying myself, which was caused by my aggressive approach. If I simply stated this in a more ‘neutral writing method’ then I wouldn’t have to worry about creditability claims because I’m not trying to sell my idea as the high authority on it.) which means I have knowledge on many different fields. I never took a fully -dedicated- 'marketing class' I took a lot of different communication classes that went to my overall major. One was directly about how you present, sell, and look at marketing tactics. So I have my fingers in many different fields, my major was "Creative Writing for Fiction and Film with an Emphasis in Video Production and a Cluster in Theatre Arts." So I can be on camera, off camera, post and pre production, creative table and actual filming. Does that make sense? (I’m not fully awake to realize what I’m writing, but it’s clear at this point I’m starting to wake up and realize I’m ranting and tossing my ideals of how to present ideas out the window, but let’s watch my follies and learn from them, shall we?) I have theories on what SEGA is going to do, and I have my worries because it's all outdated. It worked for older companies but those companies also targeted a varying audience, which SEGA refuses to see themselves as for a 'teenage audience' which is exactly why they boomed in the 90s. Their target audience is now 20s.

Friend: There are Kids who also like Sonic, even if they don’t play the games though. (Due to my aggressive tactics from not thinking clearly about, not just the what, but the HOW I’m writing, it has turned my friend into a ‘contrasting neutrality’ which is amazing by the way that she did this! She noticed my writing was turning aggressively ranting, and being my friend, didn’t want to be rude about what she was noticing. -I’m guessing lol- so instead, she took the commentary approach, which is to state the good as well. This is a terrible position to put your reader into, and you should make sure to always have good examples and good praise mixed in to contrast any opposing or aggressive statements you ever make. -though you should avoid aggressive writing at all times- Sadly, this does put the reader, in this case my friend, in a very vulnerable position. It leaves them open for attack... but thankfully, she’s a wonderful friend and had trust that I wouldn’t hurt her on her counter-follow-up.)

So instead of using their 40 to 50 year old charts, start with looking at early millennial trends and desires. They tried for 'angst' to 'adultify' Sonic but it busted because we are STICKLERS for animation. Because their story was so scrapped together and had no actual character depth, motivation, or even emotional growth to develop for future game lore, they went for the 'easy made game' (Easy baked oven quote lol that’s just mean XD) We loved the trailer, it was well made, but they threw their animators elsewhere and made the programmers (WHO BLANATLY ADMIT THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO DO STORY/GRAPHICS) and made them do things they aren't trained in. Those micro-head movements and mouths took them A LONG TIME to figure out.

(My friend is now agreeing with me several times through my rant. This is a tactic that is used as ‘avoidance’ but also for ‘appeasement’. She’s probably tuned out by now, but respects what I’m saying but is also incredulous at it as well. It’s fair, I’ve cornered her into my sleepy-time rant, and being the lovable woman that she is, she is simply waiting for me to realize my follies lolol I wish she would have told me but I think she knew I was beyond ‘logical reasoning’ at this point and was just letting me get it all out lolol What a good friend TDT)

Animation can't be learned that fast AND expect them to program a game AT THE SAME TIME. Sonic Forces was a 'split up SEGA' trying to get those who survived and said, "Yeah, I'll stay in this job." to do things that THEY AREN'T EVEN TRAINED IN. you put a game programmer on animation and some other stuff they didn't know what to do with and expect it be a top-notch seller.

Friend: (in more attempts to join in and be a ‘participant’ of the conversation I’m clearly dominating -MY ABSOLUTE BAD- she tried to engage normal conversation flow into the discussion again. At this point, she probably did notice I wasn’t my usual self, and just decided to play along and enjoy the ride lolol I’m just guessing this tho, but it’s a good chance to reflect on what ‘wrongs’ I was doing and what ‘rights’ she was doing during this situation ;)b) My big issue with SEGA is that they rush everything. A lot of things would’ve been better if they had the proper time.

That was resolved actually.

Friend: Oh? It was? (Although this looks like an encouragement, it’s actually just another avoidance tactic to help me ‘get the venting out’ but it’s clear she’s not fully onboard anymore. When you write to discuss, you have to leave room for other’s opinions to shine through as well. Healthy conversation doesn’t mean forcing the other person to comply to you. A lot of this is educated guess based on past research, she knows this, and it’s clear she’s got her own research. Please remember to never shoot someone down when they try to engage you in your conversations. But again, this is the ‘don’t do this’ and me upset at my tired self for not waking up fast enough to contemplate how I was coming across in my wordings. Let’s continue to investigate and dissect the train wreck, shall we?)

That was an issue a few years ago but SEGA is taking their time, it's just that they can't organize themselves and hire the right professionals. They have old tactics, they have rookies that aren't 'Fresh Blood with professionalism' like they need. They don't need an old fart who knows his stuff, they need a new guy who is dedicated and passionate about their company who will remain there, learn them in and out, and knows his stuff SPECIFICALLY for the things SEGA needs. You have to grow that. You have to hire a very talented and young spunky and fresh professional, have him work with you for 10-15 years, and start training others. But SEGA is already recognized as a 'established' company.

(Friend is still agreeing with me, but is aware of my way of presenting it isn’t “As nice as I usually present it” so she starts mentioning the symptoms of Japanese Work Culture. A wonderful, insightful point to mention! But let’s see how I butcher this as well...)

It's not Japan though! (Again, shutting her down. Tsk tsk, sleepy me. Wake up, you lazy bum.) They won't let Japan interfere! They're all really rude to japan actually. The guys in charge, anyway. We all respect the officials, but SEGA of America people just want results. They are just funders, they don't actually work the company.

Friend: So you blame them for everything? (She’s trying to help me see that my writing is coming off as ‘hate’ which is because of my aggressive writing follies I’m doing so bluntly. Let’s please all admire my friend’s patience as she lets me rant and kindly waits for me to realize how bad I’m handling my 16 hr shift from yesterday lolol)

Look, business is really unfair, and I get that, but if I have to rant (I’m starting to wake up more, oh goodie.) I'd say they really need to humble themselves and ask Japan to please take ownership again. They kicked out people due to a money crisis but they need a game that will be 'safe to secure money but get enough excited momentum to help us push on and continue.' which isn't Japan's strategy usually. Japan likes risks, they also like money too. They trust America too much (especially in the beginning) because America is a HUGE consumer. For the world in fact. But I think they sacrificed too much for the company (common in Japan) and trusted America too much in making decisions. The officials are too nice to say that America screwed them over because America wanted full control. Well guess what? They have too much control now and their product is sinking..

Friend: You’ve got a lot of fire about this topic. (After I completely disregarded reading her follows-ups and continued to rant, my unconditionally kind friend finally threw in the towel, realizing I was no where near my usually ‘present’ self and was probably just flopped back in her chair smiling at my idiocy of not understanding her kind and subtly hints.) Go ahead and rant it out. (BOOM! Obvious right!? I should have corrected myself but at this point, I was writing like wild fire with droopy, waking up eyes and didn’t even read it during my long paragraphs...)

Sonic won't ever fade away due to it's fans, but the company is struggling to figure itself out for YEARS now. I just worry what they plan to do next. But I have a theory that they are really putting the next game in Japan's hands, a lot of activity is happening in SEGA of Japan, and they're spending WAY MORE TIME on the next installment of Modern Sonic (or Classic, still unsure which one it is yet.) I really think they need a remake game to give them profit, then use that profit for their next big installment. But so far, I think they are working on a game BUT corona might have effected production so I'm sure they are working but I'm concerned if Corona helped manage 'time and quality' or is helping to ruin it...That I can't investigate yet :( I just wish for the best (I’M FINALLY WAKING UP FULLY AS I STOP AND REALIZE-) Sorry for my rant! My theory talk showed through and I don't usually like doing that so forgive me. I'm tired and that's why T-T

Friend: It’s cool we all need to rant sometimes. (My friend’s going to make it to Heaven TwT she’s so kind.)

(Then I profusely apologized a billion times cause I realize how badly this all went down. lol)

(But the terror hasn’t ended... she mentioned some youtube videos mentioning other opinions as well. -which I’m usually cautious of cause some of them can be fanon.-)

OHhhh did he mention the arcade crash??? the literal WORST event in SEGA history??? That's literally where they sank the titanic, SEGA has never recovered from selling off their stocks. (I’M BACK AT IT AGAIN. -facepalm-) Shareholders are everything now and it's the biggest loss ever. Also, the problem is that kids don't play the games, (Rereading my follies and wanting to answer but still only just waking up...) but SEGA can't figure out why they like the characters and can't seem to take the FREAKIN' TIME to learn their lore. (Overwhelming the conversation again.) My easy steps: Re-establish Sonic lore CANONLY AND CORRECTLY, Re-gather the Japanese Officials original plans and notes, guides and study art, Re-make some popular games with the most details on Animation, Fluidity of motion graphics, and with modern Technology incorporated into the game. Once that is accomplished, they will have enough money to then- Create a continuity. Only with a flowing story and relevant past lore can they start moving forward. Animation will target their audience, Story and character re-established arcs will bring nostalgia and new blood to the field of their games, and then Japan's influences will keep it authentic for the continuities so we don't have fandom mixing with canon NEARLY AS BADLY as before anymore. Ugh, it does matter their sales, but I literally bought a book on the history of SEGA, and read a really compelling history article about more then just the Console Wars... I know SEGA has survived literally the edge of extinction on multiple fronts, but someone needs to take charge of their Sonic branch, and it's... it's just too outdated. kk, sorry for the rant.

Friend: (After being multiple times ignored, even after my brief moment of clarity, is still an angel. Frustrated, maybe, but an angel.) And your steps sound really good. Also mostly just listen to his vids if you ever do. It’s ok we all need to rant. (THE WORLD DOESN’T DESERVE THIS GURL T-T)

I'm tired so my 'angry' is showing and it's not professional XD do you mind if I post my rant? lol Actually, no. (Realize how awfully I delivered my ideas, this is where I begin to see my errors and where the clarity comes into play. -we all have our off days lol- )

Friend: Go for it

I want to but it's too aggressive. I'm too lazy to rewrite it out so I'll just save that for another day XD You got a rare treat

Friend: (This is actually interesting and fascinating to her. But she realized then that I finally did see my error.) Concerned you’ll get aggressive responses back?

Honest opinion is sometimes too blunt and I need to be careful about that

Friend: I mean it’s always good to try and get most of the anger out so you seem more professional (Saint. Literally. A saint. She’s puts up with too much of my crap XD)

That, and also the war of 'But this is Cutegirlmayra? She's so sweet and constantly puts her answers in supportive, positive lights so that if SEGA were to see it, they would feel empowered to try it instead of threatened and throw it off as hate or something unprofessional.' I have an image too. I can't post something super aggressive or I'll lose trust. You're right.

Friend: I’m glad you put a lot of thought into everything you post

I apologize for it tho T-T I didn't mean to dominate with such opinions...lol I worry who I influence, you know?

Friend: Most people don’t and trust me they get into trouble cause of it. And yeah.

I don't want to create trolls or heated arguments. I want to teach people they can safely express an idea without using such awful communication. Exactly, it's professional fanism. lol Positive writing is what companies and their employees actually read. (I’m almost fully awake now lol, realizing my blunder and starting to explain why I was in the wrong. Good on me, pat on the back, admitting I was coming off as aggressive is the first step to changing and getting better lolol Also, I’m including her more, and I’m saying “You’re right.” and she’s going “And yeah.” which is a indicator that the conversation is slowly returning to an enjoyable and healthy one. ;w; happy endings lol) That's why I skip the aggressive stuff, even if it's passive, I write in a neutral setting so everyone feels safe to read, even someone who works at SEGA.

Friend: (Mentions some nintendo youtuber rant and also news as well, then says-) It was honestly very professional sounding and not rude. (MY HEART, YOU KNEW THAT WAS AN AGGRESSIVE RANT lololol So nice to me TDT)

Lol you had to have seen how slightly aggressive it was tho. (I’M CALLING YOUR BLUFF, BESTIE lol) You literally asked, "You blame America for it?" which is not always true but semi-true. They were way too prideful (Aggressive word) and haughty (Still aggressive terminology) about their success in other Japanese products that they wanted to completely change Sonic to their own wishes, pushing out Japan's creative "licenses" (I use this word loosely, and this gives a slightly aggressive feel but is also more dumbed down so it's more 'passionate' than just aggressive)

Friend: Yeah I saw it was slightly aggressive (Either is starting to realize it or at last admitting it now that I am fully aware of how I was coming across. I also used indicators to show what words were aggressive to help illustrate my point. This is showing I’m much more awake now :)b)

Gotta use those neutral tactics or no one will feel comfortable just reading your idea and instead, will constantly look for a place to intercept with aggression back, whether they agree or not, they're looking for ways to self-insert their aggression if you are also aggressive. I can't write something that doesn't somewhat support and uplift SEGA of America. Why? Because like I said, they literally have survived EVERYTHING and have stuck around. Without them, there wouldn't be an American branch and the money issue would have ended SEGA. Some might say, "But they've done so much harm than good! Why is the money thing such a thing to be praised for?" But it's huge, it's so big, it kinda does offset the wrongs. (Now I’m doing the healthy thing, doubling back and mentioning the good to try and recover. The damage may be done, but she did recommend some videos for me and was polite, so I’m just trying to smooth things over and leave on a ‘wrapped up’ conclusion. But... I should have just left it there in all honesty xD Some things you can’t double-back and correct lol) America is a great business-influenced mindset. None of us would be fans of Sonic without them.

(Friend continues to agree but realizes I may slip into ranting again. She just asks if I can watch the videos.)

America does have it's advantages in some fields and areas, but their biggest most redeeming quality is that they saved SEGA which gave us our biggest love and obsession: Sonic. Now, my usage in that writing was still off neutral, but combined with the slightly aggressive statements, made a GREAT contrast. It's still slightly praising

Friend: And they stopped Japan from giving him a human girlfriend right away.

Me: Exactly.

Friend: I will always thank them for that. (She’s still a sweetheart, working herself into the conversation so it stays healthy. lol Such amazing follow-ups too!)

So although I don't like what's happening, I'm also grateful... to a degree lol We need SEGA of America, which is why I think Japan just ignores them now lolol they know they owe them a lot.

(Friend mentions videos and as I go to save them to my ‘watch later’ sees that one of them is about Nintendo.)

Yeeeahhh I've noticed that Nintendo is starting to trail into 'cash grab' tactics and that's sickening (MORE AGGRESSIVE WORDING??? HAVE YOU NOT LEARNED YOUR LESSON CHILD?! It takes time to fully wake up lolol) cause before, I literally thought, "Nintendo can do no wrong" their marketing was ON POINT! but the stuff they said about Peach and now... I think new, unprofessional blood (like SEGA) has entered Nintendo and the older guys are either 'training' or 'retired to other ventures'. Nintendo is having it's own 'we used to not be prideful but now we're getting a little too pompous (Another aggressive wording... This can easily trigger people to comment with further aggression either against you or for you, but no aggression is the ideal. Which is continuing to show my lack of remaining conscious lol) about ourselves' and they're starting to act like Disney before their big crash. Disney also had 'limited time offers' with their VHS movies. Now, Nintendo is doing that. They'll make money, but at what cost? When you lose your costumer's trust...

Friend: And yeah the 35th Mario thing immediately reminded me of the Disney vault

Me: Yep. I'm worried for Nintendo. Don't get me wrong! Disney is really good with money grabs, but they... they also act high and mighty (More aggressive statements, wake up, darn it!!!) and their fanbase literally calls them 'an empire' so the fan-trust is gone. That makes you 'lame/outdated' and fans begin to look for 'what's cool?' instead.

(Friend is now re-realizing I’m ‘in and out’ so is trying to use a effective avoidance tactic by asking about different things to help my ranting fully stop.)

Sorry, I'm tired, I get on these rants and I don't mean too. (Trying to shake myself awake again.) I'm sorry.

So we returned to a healthy conversation, but I hope this interesting insight has revealed how to and what not to do about Aggressive Writing. Always stick to Neutral writing if you can, putting in a compelling counter-argument. In this aggressive writing demo, you saw that I tried to cover up my follies by saying counter-praise, but praise writing can be just as bad as aggressive writing. Passive writing can sometimes be annoying (aggressive word choice) too if you come off as disinterested or uncaring, which can still result in negative comments coming at you, or someone overly praising in their writings.

This has been all I’m showing you cause it’s kinda embarrassing ^^; but I hope it helps you in what ‘not to do’ while writing your ideas out :)b

Learn from my sleepy-time mistakes! lol

#cutegirlmayra #aggressive writing #what not to do #sonic #nintendo #marketing #sega #commentary #rant writing #an example to help teach #sonic the hedgehog #sonic idw #sonic comic #sonic rant

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egg-emperor · 2 years

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"It's close, but there's a small but significant difference: Movie Eggman knows he's evil, and loves it. He openly admits to everyone including himself that he is selfish and evil and he doesn't care. He relishes the fact that he's evil. Game Eggman, at least as Sonic Team originally envisioned him, doesn't think of himself as evil. He thinks he's making the world a better place." I saw this and had to ask if this was true? Because I never remembered anything implying this about Game Eggman.

Game Eggman definitely isn't unaware that what he's doing is evil for many reasons. And no, there's never been a solid implication of him having that belief within an actual game, regardless of what's happened and been said outside of that solid and finalized canon.

If he did, he wouldn't need to knowingly and shamelessly lie and manipulate others. He wouldn't need to create obvious propaganda about his Empire, like the Forces promo video where he tried to make lack of freedom sound fun and enforced that loving it is mandatory because he knew people wouldn't be happy about the conditions. He also wouldn't have to pretend he's going to turn over a new leaf like in Unleashed, pretend to feel remorse like in Colors to try to remove suspicion, and pretend to change his ways, only to stab people in the back. Even at the Spin Gear rollercoaster of all things, he claimed what he's doing is for world peace but slipped up twice, revealing his true selfish intentions of world domination, proving they're separate things to him and the former isn't his genuine intention.

There's also the most recent TailsTube video, where they remind people that his intentions in taking over the world are all about being in control and the center of attention. It's always for malicious and selfish reasons that benefit himself only and he'll knowingly hurt tons of innocent people, do terrible damage to the environment, and cause global destruction to get what he wants without hesitancy or remorse and that's why, as they put it, he's the most dangerous threat. There's just no way that he's oblivious to the terrible evil he does all the time but he's always either apathetic towards it or even finds it entertaining and expresses sadistic pleasure in it.

There's also the way he has outright acknowledged his evil. He has described himself and his actions as evil in games, so that's one of the most blatant undeniable things, can't get any more obvious. He knows he's the bad guy and he chooses to accomplish his goals through evil. His SA2 theme is also blatant acknowledgement of his selfishness, the way he's the enemy, and the way his machines are made for destruction. He's a smart guy with a 300 IQ and it isn't implied that his big ego makes him delusional to the fact that he's evil. He could accomplish his goals of being recognized for his genius and power and getting the attention he craves through doing good like his grandfather with his genius but chooses to be evil and take over the whole world by force.

I do think that he believes he'll be improving the world and making it beautiful when he rules it because of course he does because it means he's free to shape it in his own image, build his fucked up empire and Eggmanland theme parks, has complete and total control over everyone and everything like a god, and is the center of attention like he's always desired. Of course he'll think it's beautiful and the best it can be when he gets what he wants. But that isn't without causing everyone else misery, pain, environmental damage and pollution, and lack of freedom with no real benefits. Whenever he tries to make his actions sound good and beneficial for anyone other than himself, it's always a lie. He's deeply selfish and he has been officially described as "without a thought for anybody else" and it's very accurate.

And when you look at it in this way with all the evidence and especially with his blatant acknowledgement of being evil, you see that him having the belief that he'll make the world a better and beautiful place is by his own selfish definition with getting power, control, attention, and building his Empire and Eggmanland. It certainly doesn't mean he genuinely cares about whether anyone can benefit from it or is unaware that what he's doing is evil, it's genuinely the exact opposite for both.

#asks #dr eggman #eggman #dr robotnik #dr. eggman #analysis #my post

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scruffyplayssonic · 1 year

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Are the ArchieSonic comics actually an 80's/90's syndicated cartoon? Episode 24: Villain forced to act good

Welcome back to my look at the ArchieSonic comic series, and how it shared a lot of the same story tropes as a typical ‘80’s or ‘90’s syndicated cartoon! Today we’re going to look at the question, “Was Robotnik really such a bad guy? Maybe there’s some good in him somewhere!”

Episode 24: Villain forced to act good.

So just to clarify, we’re only going to be talking about the main villain today, not the henchman. I’ll get to Snively later on, but today it’s all about Robotnik/Eggman. Let’s start with this comic:

A little background first: Dr. Robotnik was killed in Sonic #50, wiped out of existence by his own doomsday weapon after it had been sabotaged by Snively. He was replaced by Robo-Robotnik, later known as Eggman, in Sonic #75. After Knuckles developed god-like powers and broke reality, Eggman was able to build a machine that reassembled his predecessor’s molecules.

Robotnik, thinking that Eggman was an imposter, ordered the Swatbots to arrest him but received a rude awakening when he find out that they didn’t answer to him any more.

Robotnik fled to the Great Forest, managing to find the Freedom Fighters and asking them for protection from Eggman. The Freedom Fighters were naturally shocked to see their greatest (and deadest) enemy alive, but they took him to Castle Acorn anyway.

To Sonic’s outrage, the King and Queen granted Robotnik’s request for sanctuary. However they did order a medical scan to determine if he actually was really Robotnik or not, after Sonic pointed out that he could possibly be an auto-automaton or some other kind of trick. The medical scan determined he was really Robotnik though, so he was allowed to stay. And thus many wacky shenanigans took place!

Hahaha! So funneeeeeeee! After a week or so, Robotnik claimed he was ready to face his other self and asked the Freedom Fighters to help take back his city. It was of course a trap, and Robotnik was revealed to have been working with his alternate self the entire time. But the Freedom Fighters were expecting a betrayal and were able to counter his trap, destroying the machine that had brought Robotnik back and leaving the two to fight it out over whose fault the trap failing was.

Happily, the problem of the extra Robotnik still being around took care of itself. Robotnik’s molecules were unstable, so when Eggman punched him he disintegrated and Snively took the blow instead. Wah-waaaaah.

Of course, I would be remiss if I didn’t also mention Sonic X’s El Gran Gordo saga.

Sonic X issues 26 and 27 saw Eggman taking on the persona of a masked wrestler as part of a get rich scheme meant to fund his latest Sonic-smashing weapon.

But here’s the twist - he was actually enjoying being El Gran Gordo! The fans loved him, including Chris Thorndyke, and he was lapping up all that attention.

Sonic was the only one who saw through his disguise, and decided he was going to put a stop to this nonsense by challenging Sonic in the ring. Eggman had, of course, been cheating in all of his matches, which meant that the fight against Sonic was a lot more even-matched than it should have been.

Knuckles figured out what was going on though and disabled the sabotage, allowing Sonic to get the upper hand. Sonic easily defeated Eggman after that, but Eggman begged him not to expose him, promising to end their feud if he could continue being El Gran Gordo.

Sonic reluctantly agreed, mostly because he didn’t want to shatter Chris’ perception of El Gran Gordo. And to Eggman’s credit, he stays true to his word. Unfortunately, Bokkun went mad with power after a sugar high and seizes control of the Eggman Empire, attacking one of El Gran Gordo’s matches while a bunch of world leaders were watching and taking them hostage. Even after teaming up with Sonic, El Gran Gordo was outmatched by Bokkun, and regretfully returns to being Dr. Eggman in order to stop him.

Dr. Eggman would later take on the persona of El Gran Gordo again after being challenged, having Bokkun impersonate him so that everyone would think Eggman wasn’t the same person as El Gran Gordo. But once again Bokkun took control of the Eggman Empire, so El Gran Gordo begged Sonic for help. He agreed, but only on the condition that he go back to being Dr. Eggman afterwards. Eggman had a condition of his own though…

Aaaaaaand I think that’s the perfect spot to finish up for today. Were there any other instances of the villain having to act good that I missed? Let me know in the comments! Remember, the henchmen are getting their own episode later, so this one is only for the biggest bads. Tomorrow we’ll be going over a similar trope: Hero and villain reluctantly team up against a greater foe!

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Gale’s Top 10: Favorite Rivals

For this list, I will be picking my favorite Rival Character’s in Media. Video games, anime, manga, comics, etc.

Now the question is, What makes a character a rival?

For this list I will be making clarifications:

1. If one of the goals of one of the characters is to surpass another character, battle multiple times, state that this person is their rival, and/or have the same objective as a character but puts them in conflict.

2. Moral alignment doesn't mean anything. They can be friendly rivals or even hero/villain rivals as long as their main objective is to best their opponent.

3. Bonus points if the rival is equal in strength and find themselves on opposite sides.

4.There are differences between Archenemies and rivals. So likely Super villains, Like The Joker (who do exist to defeat batman, are more like nemesis rather then rivals).

5. One per franchise

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10. Dark Pit/ Pittwo ( Kid Icarus Uprising)

Dark Reflections are often seen as cliché when it comes to rivals, but I have a soft spot for this dark copy.

Dark Pit is a copy made by Pandora to be Pit’s equal and defeat him for the sake of the underworld. But the process of making him resulted in his obedience being... shattered.

Dark pit doesn't side with the underworld or Skyworld. He does his own thing and wants to be his own person. Even achieving unlimited flight for a brief period, making him superior to Pit.

Equal in strength, speed, power, and abilities. Dark pit is a pinnacle of dark copies. But he is even seen being more observant and smarter then Pit. Since he is more self reliant, he is shown to see things more objectively.

His connection to Pit is revealed that if Pit falls, He will fall as well. So it makes for an interesting dynamic that Dark pit wants to prove his superiority yet still bound to Pit. Which leads to an interesting dynamic.

(also if you have not played Kid Icarus Uprising, for the love of Palutena DO IT!)

9. Metal Sonic (Sonic the hedgehog)

Oh I can see the anger from the Shadow Fans. ‘Why did I pick Metal Sonic?’ ‘Why not Shadow?’ ‘Shadow and Sonic have more of a rivalry?’

Here is my response. Metal Sonic is Sonic’s greatest rival and vice versa.

Created by egg man to be Sonic’s equal, to learn and grow with each fight. Metal sonic always pushes Sonic to his limit.

There are even cases where Metal Sonic has Surpassed Sonic going so far as to have sonic need the help of others to best him.

His goal of defeating Sonic goes beyond programing. He will even find a way to break free of Eggman’s control just to achieve his goal of besting sonic.

Whether its the Comics, the games, movies. Metal Sonic is seen as Sonic’s most dangerous rival.

And proof? He is a character in the game Sonic Rivals! So that shows he is a rival of sonic.

Not to insult shadow, but the OG shadow wasn't focused on fighting sonic, he had his own goals and sonic just happened to be involved. While later renditions have him more of a vegeta knock off to sonic. I find these interpretations lame.

I also considered Scourge, but that would give acknowledgement to ken Penders and honestly I aint gonna do that.

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8. Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto/Naruto Shippuden)

Yes, cue the cliche gasps. Despite how obvious he was that he is on the list, it makes sense why he is here. His and Naruto’s dynamic is iconic. Best friends, rivals, enemies, brothers in arms.

The two went down two different paths, striving to surpass the other to achieve their dreams.

The main reason I put him on here is simple.

I could write several essays about why Sasuke is on this list, but that would be boring. You all know why he is here.

He is an iconic rival and that is a fact

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7. Kim Ban Phuong (Sun-Ken Rock)

Now I know what you are thinking. Who the f*** is this guy? Time for gale’s obscure pick.

And that is understandable, since this is a manga that wasn't made into an anime (despite DESERVING TO BE ONE) (though to be fair, it is MEGA DARK, a lot of messed up themes in this. Really nails how corrupt people can be)

A man that became a monster for the sake of surpassing Kitano Ken (the main character of the manga)

A man that was one of the only two people to have ever beaten the main character in a fight (and the only one to do so when the main character was trying to be a boss)

Formed an assassin guild to destroy Ken’s gang.

The tragic backstory of this character is enough to give the reader the understanding on how he is Ken’s shadow. Why he is fighting against Ken so hard. All the way to the tragic end he faced. Something which I dare not spoil here.

The fight between him and Ken is nothing short of breath taking and this is written by the guy that did the Dr.Stone Manga.

Seriously, while the fan service can be grotesque at times, the plot of the story about Korean gangs, race relations and asian history are something to behold. The fact that its so underrated is a travesty. (but skip the idol arc, it does capture how messed up the entertainment industry can be.)

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6. Ryoga hibiki

The undisputed king of getting lost. The man of many misfortunes. The half piglet half man. Ryoga.

For those who have seen Ranma 1/2, What you see here is top tier best boy in the series.

If you go strictly by the anime, you would believe that he is a better match for akane (or Ranma depending on what side of the fandom you are on)

Ryoga puts Ranma as the focus of all the misfortune he has faced, he is mostly self taught and is acknowledged by Ranma as his only true rival.

When it comes down to it they are constantly on a seesaw on who is stronger. Despite all of the hardships, Ryoga does see Ranma in a friendlier light as the series goes on, even considering him a friend. They actually have helped each other on occasions, The manga showing times where Ranma tried to help Ryoga with his date with another girl. Or Ryoga putting his feelings for Akane aside to stop Brainwashed Ranma from marrying shampoo.

The back and forth between the two and the unspoken connection of having a jusenkyo curse has really made the two have a strong bond.

Ryoga deserves a spot on this list because of his strong character.

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5. Henry Cooldown (No more Heroes)

For those of you unfamiliar with the series of No More Heroes, Henry is the Scottish Half-brother of the main protagonist. Cool, confident, a kick ass accent, and a masterclass assassin. He is the final boss of the first No More Heroes.

The rivalry between the two really takes head when the main character, Travis, finds out that this cool customer that stole his kill and saved his life was his half brother and wants to settle it in a duel to the death. Henry was a rival that was always one step ahead of Travis. Travis wants to bang Silvia, (the woman that set up the assassin ranking system) She was Henry’s Ex-wife. Travis wanted to be the number one assassin, Henry was the original number one. Travis has a beam Katana, Henry has one that looks even cooler.

In terms of the cool rival/ brother rival archetype, Henry Cooldown is the best fit, and he even helps travis out again in the sequel.

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4. Paul (Pokemon Diamond and Pearl)

For those of you that have seen the anime, You understand EXACTLY why Paul is on this list.

In Ash’s journey through Sinnoh, there was a Pokemon trainer that always seemed to one up Ash, no it wasn't Gary Oak, it was Paul.

But what made Paul so different? Why not pick Gary?

Paul was Ash’s antithesis.

Ash loved his Pokemon and battled with instinct and trust.

Paul evaluated his pokemon’s potential, he released any that failed to meet his standards. He was focused on attaining power and would use any means necessary to attain it.

He saw how his older brother failed, and refused to give up like his brother did. Paul wanted to prove himself better.

Ash saw Paul as a strong trainer but HATED the way he treated his own Pokemon. Ash even ended up asking Paul’s Chimchar to join his team after Paul abandoned it, which allows for a more dynamic clash in their beliefs.

Battle after battle, Paul kept proving better then ash, until the Sinnoh League tournament. Where they faced off in the quarter finals.

(Which is personally my favorite anime Pokemon battle of all time)

Ash gets to show Paul the importance of Loving and respecting one’s Pokemon. And that is pretty beautiful.

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3.Shego

Shall we talk about my favorite character in Kim possible? About time we had a lovely Lady rival on here.

Yes, we shall.

The former Super powered Hero turned Villain, the Number two of Dr. Drakken.

Shego is a self interested individual that loves to pamper herself and to do bad.

Whenever she is involved, it is guaranteed that she and Kim are going to be fighting.

The fights are always intense and always show the capabilities of both fighters. In a way Shego is a dark reflection of Kim.

Capable, sassy, fashionable, and a total threat to anyone that gets in her way.

Not to mention, (I TOTALLY WAS CRUSHING ON HER AS A KID)

Shego’s only reason for not being the most evil villain out there is simply because she couldn't care less about actually ruling the world, Not that she wouldn't do it if she had the opportunity (a stitch in time showed she totally would) She is just more relaxed, even willing to help Kim.

There is even an episode where Shego turned good and she and Kim got along legendarily.

When it comes to rivals, Shego’s got sass, class and can whoop ass.

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2. Seto Kaiba (Yu-Gi-Oh!)

Don't act like you don't love this arrogant douche.

Seto Kaiba is one of the most iconic characters in Yu-gi-oh.

This Blue eyes dragon fetishist is the head of his own company and wants to prove that he is the greatest duelest in the world.

His obsession with besting the Pharaoh (Atem / Yami Yugi) is documented and the lengths he is willing to go.

He advanced the technology of the world so far just so he could find the long dead pharaoh who went back to his time/ spirit world and he nearly did it.

He even found a way to counter magic using technology.

Though despite his ego that could rival MOUNTAINS in size, Kaiba does care about his little brother mokuba, willingly sacrificing himself just to protect him. Even willing to put his life on the line to save him.

When it comes to showmanship, Seto Kaiba is number one, and likely the inspiration for EVERY BADASS ANIME OUTFIT TO EXIST

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1. Vegeta (Dragon ball Z and Dragon Ball Super)

When one thinks the word Rival, one man pops into my head. Bar none, the Prince of all Saiyans. Vegeta.

The prince of all Tsundere’s, the walking Napoleon complex. The genocidal warrior to defender of earth and father of two.

Vegeta’s goal was to be Number one, and Kakarot/ Goku is the one that stands in his way.

After Frieza’s defeat, Vegeta’s goal was to surpass Goku, to prove he is number one.

His actions and antics could hardly be considered good, not until the end of the Buu saga would he even be considered a good person.

But the reason why vegeta is number one is because of what happened during Super.

Vegeta has gained a LOT of character development during the sequel series. Especially in the super Manga.

Vegeta shows that he has grown to care about the planet that he has lived on, even feeling guilty of his actions back in the Namek saga, doing his best to make things right.

He still wants to beat Goku, but he has more reasons to fight then simply his pride.

Vegeta is arguably the most developed rival on this list.

There are other iconic rivals that could have hit number one, but Vegeta is the text book definition of Rival.

Thats why the Prince of all Saiyans is finally number one

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