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artisan-king-morleus · 8 months

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SIGMA IS KAFKA ASAGIRI

random theory/thought that turned into a rabbit hole, plz read

Not sure if this will get seen and I'm hella sleep deprived rn but a thought occured.

BSD man...

As of rn we don't know who Sigma is or what exactly he is. New official art, as I've seen, has some already guessing his origins and which author he's based off of.

But I have a dumb lil thought/theory.

He's born from "The Book" INSIDE bsd. So what if...

Sigma is Kafka Asagiri?

Why? Where'd this thought come from?

There's a vampire manga series I read in high school that was a journey of the main character (le gasp) but it was "written" by the character himself. As in the "author" of this manga series WAS the main character. (Honestly the author's last name was shortened for his main character but I think it's still relevant) (plus I think it was a novel before manga...? Idk but I've only read the manga)

As I know, it was written as if the another WAS the main character.

My guess is that he wanted his story to feel like it was ACTUALLY written by the MC but still have his story be linked to him when ppl look in libraries and stuff. I've had a similar thought to as my own story does canonically break the 4th wall so to have the MC's name as the AUTHOR adds to the illusion; the immersion. And I remember that THAT was such a cool thing to do when reading this awhile back.

I have no basis for this "Sigma is Kafka Asagiri" but with him kinda being his own character as of rn (not off of an author or even one we know of yet) he severely sticks out compared to EVERYONE.

Author vs Characters

Plus, this just came to me, his ability is basically "I touch you and know what you know" right?

So, as an aspiring author and comicteer and such, I have some words. Over the years id make characters and stories but it quickly became not my own, like it was alive, the things I created. The characters from my pen would move and do things on their own and by watching them, I'd learn of who they are. And as this continued, it really wasn't ME, the author, making these characters do things.

Yes, I do guide the story but I can't tell them to just do things just because; especially if it's not their nature. It's like forcing them to be what they are not. You can make up scenarios to lean them towards a path. I've have to basically "rehire" new characters because the villain I wanted wasn't in front of me like I hoped for. But that not-villian is someone else in the story.

So basically, even tho I'm the creator, I don't know all that happens. I'm even shocked as to what the conclusions are or who someone really is. Sigma being Asagiri's avatar (per say but not like living a fanfic of his own story/not self insert) would open up a hell of a 4th wall discussion. This could elude "The Book" as being BSD itself but I don't think it is.

The book is blank.

The blank pages are a possibility. They could just act as "sticky notes" to insert in a book to make changes later.

We don't know who brought from from that book either. Or if he was in the first place. Possibly just a simple loophole for Sigma=Asagiri.... idk

Ability =Author..?

Possibly BSD story is as we see it now, a trainwreck of bad news and the world ending but he couldn't find a way or change it. As I said, authors vs characters so Sigma was born into that world to change the outcome. Without Sigma, how different would the story be? We don't even know about him until hella later nor what his existence impacted the story before that.

I think he feels a lot like Atsushi because it's that lost MC thing. Cliche as it sounds, it's not a bad start for an MC, to be naive, lost, hopeless, and running until something changes. All they can go is up despite the monsters in their minds trying to drag them down. How different would the story be if Sigma was the MC instead? Would we know too much without actually knowing what it means?

Sigma's ability I think also taps into that "as an author, I only know what my characters tell me" thing. And if Asagiri did create Sigma to change BSD then following the rules of "The Book", he had to have Sigma fit into the world. Thus an ability based off an author (in a 4th wall sense rather then we in that world sense). And Sigma would then be just as clueless and maybe even hopeless as Asagiri would've felt but he's the only hope.

Again Sigma would be an insert just alien enough and blend in enough to maybe make a change. Plus a world of authors and books and abilities, introducing a character without those is like pulling a +4 uno card on us all. (Sneaky lmao)

Random rabbit hole of Σ, ς, σ (Sigma)

Sigma is the 18th letter of the Greek alphabet (Pheonician). Three ways to write it would be uppercase (Σ), lowercase (σ), and final-word position (ς). Sigma origin (šīn) meaning tooth.

I find this funny as Sigma is not of this world and his name basically means "sin". Kinda like he wasn't meant to be here. Or maybe punishing him for "writing/creating" the world of BSD if he's the avatar for Asagiri. Think that's fits with the thought that he made the world but has to suffer the end of that world but his last hope is Sigma.

(I'm bs-ing so hard rn, I'm so sorry 😭)

Plus, I thought this : sigma is used in complicated mathematics and symbols used often in "covariance matrix" which is basically math to map out MULTIDIMENSIONAL SPACES

"Multidimensional matrix". It's how to calculate data across two dimensions.

Using data to go from one place to another much like from inside the story to the auth-

Daemons and Angels

I had watched a Genshin Impact lore/theory video that had talked about some of the cube bosses names came from the Hebrew alphabet. They explained that these cubes correlate to the gods of the land and the elements they represent. These gods also have interesting names too. They have normal names but but the land and history, they go by names of demons from a book called the Ars Goetia.

These cube bosses and gods both have angel and demon names but besides them relating to one other by elements, their angel/demon names match up.

72 Daemons of Ars Goetia and 72 Angels of Shem Hamephorash.

(I sounded smart there for a sec but it's difficult to find the specific letters that correlate to these beings. There's 22 letters and 72 d/A's. ????)

Hebrew and Greek meaning

Σ (Greek sigma) came from שׁ (Hebrew sigma letter).

It's been flipped and changed to the one we know of as Σ. Which is Greek number for 18. In Hebrew 21 and pronounced as Shin, literally meaning tooth. The symbol also representing flames and transformation. Much like a forest fire, the ashes give way for the soul to reabsorb and grow anew thus a transformation. With flame and essential rebirth, the yin and yan, this ultimately represents balance.

It's the processing of destruction without the evil and rebuilding without the sorrow. Much like destruction can be seen as a sort of chaotic creation.

The way Shin is written is with 2-3 Vavs.

Vavs is the Hebrew number 6 and it means "hook". This letter has the power to bring things together when they've become separated in creation.

With this in mind...

His ability literally is to get info outta people like "their" truths

Sigma relation to D.N.A ➡️ specific names

One article talks of them being both letters and numbers, they have a correlation to human DNA. The building blocks. Relation to animo acids and how to tell the body how to process with 22 amino acids.

http://blog.cristianacaria.com/2014/11/26/the-72-angels-and-the-power-of-the-hebrew-letters/

⬆️ this article goes on to talk about how when we are all born, 3 letters are somehow assigned to us at birth and they make up a name of that daemon/angel. This explains the article for Socrates I found before this that talks of how it was believed that he was watched over by a daemon/angel. And had essentially helped him "change the world" and himself thru his philosophy.

This surely explains the 22 to 72 math problem earlier. (Daemons and Angels paragraph)

https://www.idler.co.uk/article/socrates-and-the-angels/#:~:text=Angels%20can%20be%20linked%20to,realms%20of%20mortals%20and%20gods.

Sigma (BSD) age meaning?

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SIGMA BEING BORN 3 YEARS AGO HAS TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

3 years could mean 1,095-1,096 days of living roughly so that really doesn't do me any good.

I'm done now

Purely speculation but this is based of like 3 brain cells, my author nerdy ass and artistic standpoint in crafting worlds and shit plus it's like 3 am rn 😭

Edit: it's 5:42 am now

Simple read rather than read all that :

Other manga gave thought that Sigma is the authors character like another other character in BSD.

Dazai Osamu, no longer human

Kafka Asagiri, bungou stray dogs

Sigma, information exchange

Maybe Sigma made to help world of BSD but not like self insert. And Sigma Greek and Hebrew letters mean to tear down and rebuild. A balance between mercy/kindness and justice/truth.

Letters relation to Daemons/angels and how they can lead one to change.

Thank you for your time 🥲

~King.M.

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sorcerersandskillusers · 21 days

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Spoilers for Chapter 114.5

This confirms that Dazai is literally the only person who can kill Fyodor since he would nullify the possession. Which makes the "You can't kill me line" way funnier because Fyodor was really thinking

"please for the love of god do not be the one to kill me"

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd dazai #bsd fyodor dostoevsky #bsd fyodor #fyodor dostoyevsky bsd #bungou stray dogs dazai #bsd theories #bsd theory #bsd spoilers #bsd manga spoilers #bsd chapter 114.5 #bsd 114.5

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cvntkisser · 2 months

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Bungo stray dogs fans will really watch a character get cut in half, drowned, shot in the head, blown up and have characters prepare for another character's funeral and be like i wonder how they survived because they couldn't have possibly died.

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justcallmesakira · 21 days

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I love how the bsd fandom was celebrating chuuyas birthday being happy, joyful, a bit of angsty JUST yesterday and then fyodor just comes to ruin the party like that one auntie that no one of the family likes.

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maalidoesart · 4 months

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nikolai a few seconds after the dramatic scene from the last chapter

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lazyflower48 · 8 months

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I'm getting quite impatient waiting for the next episode, so I'm just going to list all the possible s5 endings that I can think of along with the popular ones that I've come across

▪︎ The good ending AKA the delusional ending

Verlaine, Natsume, Yosano, H.G. Wells or someone- ANYONE shows up to save the day and then everything gets resolved and returns to normal. And so everyone lives happily ever after

▪︎ The sad but hopeful ending

Aya's ability is revealed, Bram's backstory followed by his death, which results in the vampirism being nullified. The DoA loses. Fukuchi dies/gets caught. Dazai has a plan. He and Chuuya take down Fyodor together in true Soukoku fashion. Fyodor dies/gets caught.

▪︎ The fake out ending

Dazai dies, Fukuzawa dies, basically anyone who is on the verge of death of death, dies BUT someone finds the book or the page (someone from ADA? Atsushi?) and brings them all back.

▪︎ The bad (sad) ending

Fukuzawa dies and everything falls apart. Atsushi loses control of his ability. It's the end of ADA (Goodbye Twilight theory- The ADA oversees the twilight so it's a goodbye to the agency)

▪︎ The doomed bungover ending

The whole world ends, and everyone just freaking dies. *55 minutes flashback intensifies*

▪︎ The Ranpo ending

Ranpo has a plan beyond the whole "trapping Fukuchi in Poe's novel" thing (in Ranpo we trust)

▪︎ The best ending

It's a rightfully deserved beach episode! (The past 2 seasons were not real. All the characters are alive and well, being silly as usual)

If Asagiri is involved in the making of the next episode (which he most likely is), then knowing him, he's probably gonna defy our expectations and write the most unpredictable ending for this season

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etrevil · 9 months

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I want to hear the original plan for these two, because they're younger in this image (and was drawn years before Fifteen the novel), and there's changed details, like Dazai's broken leg instead of his fake-broken arm.

I'm just imagining them being friends at a much younger age, being stupid, then stupider when puberty comes in. I wanna learn about Chuuya's time with Kouyou and Dazai with Mori. I want to learn about what the could have been and if they'd be the same as they are now.

#i absolutely adore the theories about this picture #i go feral every time i imagine them as younger kids around ten or eleven #ahhhhh i wanna read childhood skk now #bungou stray dogs #bsd #bsd manga #soukoku #bsd soukoku #dazai osamu #osamu dazai #bsd dazai #chuuya nakahara #bsd chuuya

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anythinganother · 19 days

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We already know that Fyodor has sick amount of Jesus parallels but did anyone notice rest of the DOA can be Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

Fukuchi - war obviously

Sigma - famine

Bram - pestilence

Nikolai - death

I see this post is more popular that my other one so if someone wanted to read full version of this theory, here it is:

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd manga #dazai osamu #fyodor dostoyevsky bsd #chuuya nakahara #bsd fyodor #nikolai gogol #bsd theories #bsd theory #bsd 114.5 #bsd bram #bsd sigma

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dazaistabletop · 11 months

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I wonder if Crime is the evil Fyodor and Punishment is the terrified Fyodor

Crime Punishment

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chuuya-kisser · 20 days

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OKAY GUYS LISTEN TO ME HEAR ME OUT

sooo fyodor, fukuchi, bram, nikolai and sigma are the decay of angels right? and so far till the latest chapter,

fyodor took over bram

fyodor is about to/ has already killed fukuchi

fyodor has temporarily put sigma out of commission bc of info overload

nikolai has been mysteriously missing

BASICALLY FYODOR GOT RID OF THE WHOLE DOA ATLEAST FOR THE MOMENT

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO NIKOLAI?????? After all, fyodor did say that his next action would be getting rid of nikolai....

i have no idea what he's trying to do with this or what im even getting at with this.

But fukuchi mentioned that fyodor helped in the formation of his whole grand plan to rid the world of war was. which means that fyodor is almost certainly aware of the page's conditions for activation. now im not sure abt this bc i dont remember exactly but i believe the agency was supposed to be declared innocent or smth after the page activated, painting fukuchi as the 'bad guy', right??? (Please correct me if im wrong here)

what if fyodor never lets the conditions for the page's activation be met.

what if he was only ever using even fukuchi as a pawn in his grand scheme to do god knows what. he probably was. after all no way would fyodor actually work under someone without his own vested interests. what if he kills fukuchi just like that. what if fukuchi dies in fucking vain. i sure hope not please.

fukuchi's intention was to end war. fyodors WAS NOT.

fukuchi really did believe that fyodor was stuck halfway across the world in mersault. there's no way he'd have anticipated being killed not by fukuzawa or teruko, but by fyodor. bc he'd have to know about fyodor's ability to know that he had a chance to escape mersault directly to yokohama. and there's absolutely no way fyodor would have trusted someone like him with information about his ability.

fyodor had the advantage of knowing fully about fukuchi's plan, possibly in order to foil it

again, i have no freaking idea where im going with this. i just wanted to get this out. please asagiri. please.

verlaine its your time to shine again!

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flamie-42 · 6 months

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I know its prob not gonna happen but I would be so down with Mori taking Dazai back to the Mafia with him for the deal he made with Fukuzawa.

I think it would be the funniest potential and also probably the best option. Let me die on this hill real quick.

Mori would 100% take him

Fukuzawa wouldn't have to traumatize another child

soukoku potentials

shenanigans with Dazai just fucking up missions for the PM

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #skk #soukoku #bsd dazai #a bsd theory #bsd analysis #bsd manga

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sorcerersandskillusers · 4 months

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*SPOILER WARNING CHAPTER 112*

Something is really off about Fyodor's death in the manga

Having just read the latest chapter, I noticed something really weird with Fyodor death scene. It all comes down to Dazai's reaction.

Before Fyodor "death" we see Dazai being all smug and gloating about what Fyodor missed, very typical of his character in general.

But then his mood suddenly shifts completely

He suddenly becomes very sombre, no triumph or gloating, this could be him regretting having to kill Fyodor, but the next few panels make me think there's more too it then that.

Look at Dazai's expression here, the way he seems so suspicious of the hand

I don't think we've ever seen Dazai's eyes like this, they are blank white, it's almost like his mafia eyes but colour inverted. This is not the face of someone who just beat their greatest enemy, or someone mourning their loss, It looks like Dazai is unsatisfied, I can't quite describe it, but there is something more in those eyes.

After Fyodors death Dazai is uncharacteristically quiet and Chuuya even points it out, again, nothing about this says "we won!" it feels like we still lost somehow.

So why would Dazai not want Fyodor dead? While it could be because he was sad to lose the only person who thought like him, while that's possible, I want to explore another idea.

Death did not stop Fyodor.

Dazai could have killed Fyodor when he had him cornered in the cafe if he wanted to, or have someone else kill him so he doesn't break his promise to Oda.

But he didn't, he let Ango arrest him instead, even though Dazai knew what a threat he was, why?

It all comes down to this.

The only way Dazai can counter Dostoyevsky is when he's right there in front of him. So now he's dead, Dazai can't read his actions any more. It's like he's fighting a ghost, all the plans Fyodor will have laid in case he died will be 10x harder to uncover and stop since it's much harder to fight an invisible enemy.

Remember that Dazai did not order the piolet to kill Fyodor, Bram did, and Dazai admitted to not having any say in that deal

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I don't have any final point here, I just wanted to vent these thoughts. Does Fyodor quoting jesus on the cross mean he's going to come back in three days? What's going on with Sigma? I have way more questions than answers and it's driving me nuts

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cvntkisser · 20 days

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just want to remind y'all that this

is Fyodor's reaction to Nikolai being the person to willingly intentionally kill him. and that his ability allows him to basically use whoever willingly kills him's body to morph into his new one. so technically this is his reaction to the idea of being inside Nikolai and then becoming him. he looks genuinely fucking blissful. at the idea of sharing Nikolai's body. at the idea of being inside Nikolai. there's fucking sparkles in the fucking background.

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kingg-of-avidya · 8 months

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guys order of the clock tower arc is going to be wild you know

agatha christie, charles dickens, JANE AUSTEN guys i hope we get to see pride and prejudice as an ability

maybe they can even sneak oscar wilde in (i know that he's from ireland but come on) he would be such a sass king god he would rival dazai on that one

i want sheakespeare to be there too and please god let asagiri make him speak that way

you know, like "whomst could haveth seenth this come forth, that blessid ben thei that suffren persecusioun for riytfulnesse, for the kingdam of heuenes is herne" or something like that and then everyone just stares at him while he confidently holds his head high like he made a genius point and then agatha just sighs and translates and turns out he just said something like "what are we having for dinner"

but during a crisis or an important scene he suddenly speaks perfect modern english, zero goofiness, which makes it at least 50x more impactful

make it happennnn

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #sheakespeares ability should be called what you egg #and when he says that to you you get stabbed #bsd order of the clock tower #bsd asagiri #bsd manga #bsd agatha #bsd theories #bsd rant #bsd brainrot #bsd dazai #dazai osamu bsd #bsd thoughts #bungou stray dogs dazai #dazai osamu

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little-blurry-stars5 · 10 days

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OKKKK WAIT CHAT I JUST HAD THE CRAZIEST THOUGHT BUT HEAR ME OUTTTTT

OK SO U WAS REWATCHING THE FIFTH SEASON AND REMEMBER THIS SCENE?

BRO

NOW HEAR ME OUT-----

So this was all an act, right? BUT WHAT IF IT WASNT?

WHAT IF- What if the original owner of that body took possession? Just for a moment? Doysotevsky could have let the shift happen, only for a moment to make it genuine. It would also explain "what year is it?"

ANDDDD LISTEN---

Guys. LISTENNNNNN.

I may spouting bullshit here, but thing is: fyodor had no reason to write that note. None at all. So, what does it mean? It wasnt ever explained in the actual story. It's possible that the original owner of the body is still alive even after fyodor takes possession.

This could mean Bram is alive.

Also the fact that Bram could feel fyodor taking possession a bit before it happened? Oughhhh. Ouooooghhhh. Meaning: something tells them it's going to happen. With the guard, we didn't see much other than him tweaking out, but Bram? Bram was aware he was being taken over and had the time to warn aya (probably due to his experience with abilities).

Does this mean that the hosts can detect fyodor, and even still be in there? Is it possible their consciousness- or perhaps even their soul- still remains?

Idk man I haven't been clear headed in days but. It's just something to think abouttttt

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awoogayanderes · 10 months

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okay guys HEAR ME OUT.

so in these two panels we see sigma touching fyodor, to gain information from him

and i’m almost positive that sigma isn’t actually dead, he just fainted from the amount of knowledge he got, like atsushi did

okay now hear me out, WHAT IF sigma was seeing what fyodor’s actual plan was, for chuuya to kill dazai BUT IT HASN’T ACTUALLY HAPPENED YET.

it’s very far fetched but i feel like it’s something asagiri would do and i’m trying to cling to the hope that sigma and dazai aren’t actually dead

IM HOPING ASAGIRI DIDN’T ACTUALLY HAVE THE BALLS TO KILL TWO FAN FAVORITE CHARACTERS.

then again, he also said he “loved” sigma, he also “loved” oda AND THAT MF IS DEAD NOW

#written by terra #bsd #bsd manga #bsd manga spoilers #bungou stray dogs #bsd chapter 109 #bsd theories #bsd dazai #bsd sigma #bsd fyodor #bsd chuuya

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