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POV: You’re Bowen Marsh
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“Septon Cellador spoke up. “This boy Satin. It’s said you mean to make him your steward and squire, in Tollett’s place. My lord, the boy’s a whore…a…dare I say…a painted catamite from the brothels of Oldtown.”
And you are a drunk. “What he was in Oldtown is none of our concern. He’s quick to learn and very clever. The other recruits started out despising him, but he won them over and made friends of them all. He’s fearless in a fight and can even read and write after a fashion. He should be capable of fetching me my meals and saddling my horse, don’t you think?”
- Jon {A Dance With Dragons}
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Donal Logue as Bowen Marsh
Conan Gray as Satin Flowers
Ferdia Walsh-Peelo as Jon Snow
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ariavar · 1 year
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Today, we celebrate all the stabbed boyos <3
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wpmorse · 4 months
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"Bathing. But don't let me spoil your plotting." Jon climbed from the water, dried, dressed, and left them to conspire.
Jon Page 1090
While Jon bathes, he notices Alliser Thorne and Bowen Marsh in the bathhouse plotting over the ongoing election.
Besides saying it has vaulted roofs and is made of stone, Mr. Martin is very vague about what Castle Black's bathhouse looks like. I assumed it was also large and dark because nobody noticed each other until they started talking.
I was amused by Thorne's hypocrisy. One moment he says the Night's Watch should be nobody's armsmen. The next he gushed over Tywin's support of Janos Slynt.
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racefortheironthrone · 2 months
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if marsh had planned to kill jon then why did he wait until after the wildlings were through the wall? surely it would have been better to kill jon as soon as he said he planned on bringing the wildlings through?
The first thing you have to take into account is that Marsh has no interest in a murder-suicide; he wants to survive the assassination and preferably in a position to lead the Night's Watch afterwards.
That means Marsh can't go it alone, which means he has to take the time to find like-minded compatriots and persuade them to take an incredibly drastic and unpopular action. That's not a simple process.
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Val: {At Jon’s funeral} Can I have a moment alone with him?
Bowen: Of course. {leaves}
Val {leaning over Jon’s coffin} Now listen, I know you're not dead.
Jon: Yeah no shit.
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warsofasoiaf · 4 months
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Why does Bowen Marsh, a Northman and possibly also a crannogman, worship the Seven? It is possible that it was a simple oversight by the author?
Possibly. Or it could be that Bowen converted to the Faith - Watsonian because it's aggravating to hike out beyond the Wall to pray before a weirwood, and Doylistically to foreshadow Bowen will turn on Jon.
Thanks for the question, Ekandall.
SomethingLikeALawyer, Hand of the King
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here-be-tangents · 5 months
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Alliser Thorne's Return
I know there's not much love for Allister ('cause he's got no chill and a rivalry with a teenager), but something I'm really intrigued by is his potential reaction to Bowen Marsh's mutiny...
And I really hope he (begrudgingly) "takes Jon's side".
I've been looking at The Adaptation and how wasteful it was with its characters (as was its wont). But then I got to thinking how interesting the execution of Bowen Marsh and the conspirators would be if it was Alliser performing it. The returning master-at-arms can, like his friend Glendon Hewett at Eastwatch in the absence of Cotter Pyke, take command of the castle.
He then learns of Marsh's detention/ascension to command, the means by which this came about, and his reasoning for doing what he did. And what does Alliser think of that?
Well, he's a man who continued to support the Mad King through all of Robert's Rebellion, up to and through the Sack of King's Landing, by which point his cause was obviously doomed. But better that than betray his superior. And so he condemns Marsh, potentially (if he reasoning were articulated out-loud for the POV) comparing Marsh to Jaime Lannister, and thus drawing parallels between Jaime's betrayal of Aerys with Bowen's betrayal of Jon.
And so he executes them, before moving on to deal with the Lord Commander's corpse and perhaps organise a new election. What happens after that is dependent too much on other plots to really imagine in a vacuum, but that one scene - the set piece of Alliser and Bowen, united in dissatisfaction but divided in willingness to enact change - would be fun to me.
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mpregwesteros · 9 months
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jon strikes back
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I tried to have Ghost do some of his favourite things like roll in the snow and dream of tugging Jon's hand back and forth as a game and I added some new fun activities for Ghost too like building a SnowJon and murder.
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The Assassination of Jon Snow by the Coward Bowen Marsh
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"And in their hands, the daggers."
The painting was fairly straightforward, lots of my classic Night's Watch black, plus heavier snow weathering than usual as this is as far into winter as we've seen in the series. The blood was the main feature here - I'm not usually a 'blood for the blood god' guy, but you can't have someone getting Caesared without a bit of gore! The blood is mostly UV resin with a red wash, making it vivid and slightly translucent. The hanging drips were done with clear fishing line and letting UV resin drip down before setting it.
Following on from last weeks post, we have the full Ides of Marsh. Every time I think about the long wait for TWoW (ie. Often), I think about the idea that poor Jon has been face down in a snow bank for... coming up on longer than he's been alive! Jon Snow's arc in ADwD is probably my favourite single story arc in all the books, and the assassination is the perfect culmination to it. The classic fantasy hero rallying his troops and allies to save his sister from a flaying rapist, charging off and... immediately getting shanked by a middle manager worried he hasn't considered the overheads.
I lucked out with how many of the standard Night's Watch minis are dual wielding sword and dagger, making it easy to snip off the swords and get a good "daggers in the dark" look. (I know Wick dropped his knife and Bowen left it in Jon, but two empty handed guys doesn't work visually to say "this is a murder").
The left mini is a good chubby Watchman who I always felt had a good Bowen Marsh look, I think in some ways I prefer this mini to my main Bowen Marsh. The middle mini is actually meant to be Benjen Stark, which would be a real twist! I used him because that knife down look is just too perfect to pass up, and the tall and skinny look made me think of Wick Whittlestick, described as gangling. The third is Ser Genericus, as I was surprised to reread and see how brief the description of the assassination is, and we don't actually know the other conspirators! Seems wrong that an event can weigh on my mind for over a decade and only be half a page long.
I had a devil of a time finding a Jon mini that wasn't in a combat action pose, this one is actually meant to be Satin! I'm very sad not to be painting one of my favourite underrated characters, but he's perfect for a more vulnerable looking Jon that reminds you he's just a kid, and the pose was bang on for fumbling for Longclaw/staunching a bleeding wound.
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Bowen Marsh: we don't have enough food for the winter
Jon: then we should settle the wildlings in the Gift
Marsh: no
Jon: why not
Marsh: we should just let them starve
Marsh: anyway we also don't have enough men to defend the Wall
Jon: so we need the wildlings
Marsh:
Marsh: no
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themockingpoint · 1 year
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I have a feeling that this is exactly what Jon’s resurrection is going to feel like.
https://youtu.be/Vmb1tqYqyII
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allovesthings · 1 year
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It’s interesting that in this chapter, Bowen Marsh is associated with Thorne by Mormont when the dude hasn’t really done anything yet especially considering what he is going to do later to Jon.
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wpmorse · 4 months
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Slynt's neck was purpling. "Lies, all lies! A strong man makes enemies, Your Grace knows that, they whisper lies behind your back. Naught was ever proven, not a man came forward . . ." Samwell Page 1076
All of the candidates for the Lord Commander of the watch, gather in Stan’s solar to plead Stanis admonishes them to stop wasting his time on the election of the Lord Commander. Janos Slynt tries to sell himself as the best candidate for the job based on his leadership of the gold cloaks, seemingly forgetting Stannis's contempt for him. In a matter of minutes, he’s accusing all of the things that Stanis has to say about him as lies.
I assumed that this solar was the same room where Lord Mormont entertained Tyrion in Game of Thrones. To show this I put included a small bit of the same tapestry.
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eonweheraldodemanwe · 2 years
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Better quality artworks of the Night's Watch Starter Set from the miniatures tabletop game.
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