Trying to figure out the designations of Oblivion's Black Hand prior to the deaddrop switch and I just realised something strange...
Ungolim
Lucien Lachance
Arquen
Belisarius Arius
J'Ghasta
Alval Ulvani
Mathieu Bellamont
Shaleez
Havilstein Hoarblood
Banus Alor
These are all the members of the Black Hand that appear in Oblivion, excluding the PC. Four Speakers, a Listener, and their five talons, the Silencers. Ten people in all. But when the PC is named Silencer, all of these people are still alive, and if all of them were members at that time, then the Black Hand would suddenly have eleven people instead of ten. And that doesn't work with the way Lucien tells us that it works. So chances are that someone got an abrupt promotion once the killings started, and the only person who makes sense to me is Banus Alor.
We know that Bellamont was promoted to the Black Hand as a Silencer about a year or more prior to the Player's arrival in the Brotherhood. Shaleez and Havilstein Hoarblood are also Silencers, as they tend to live in remote places or on the move so they can carry out their duties without being tied to a single place.
As for the others, Ungolim is the Listener, we know that for a fact. Lucien is obviously a Speaker, and we can presume that Arquen has been one for some time, given her role as the player's guide post-questline. Belisarius mentions that he's been responsible for administrative duties for years and hasn't gotten to spill blood in a long time, which is much more in line with a Speaker than a Silencer, so we can presume he's been a Speaker for a long time.
J'Ghasta and Alval HAVE to have been members of the Black Hand prior to the deaddrop switch because they're the ones named in those fake contracts. Their roles aren't super clear because according to UESP they're both Speakers... but that doesn't really work as we already have three confirmed Speakers and three confirmed Silencers, so they have to be one or the other. Speakers seem to have an established residence while the Silencers tend to move around a bunch (with Bellamont being an exception) so I lean towards Speaker J'Ghasta and Silencer Ulvani, but it really could go either way. There's definitely a compelling case for Speaker Ulvani, so it's up to preference really
Whatever the case, that still leaves Banus Alor as our odd one out as having no mention of prior experience and history with the Black Hand, whether in dialogue or from contracts. If he was a member of the Black Hand at the time of the Purification, then the Player being named Silencer makes no sense because going by the numbers, Lucien should have a Silencer still. So what gives with his being here? The doylist reason is pretty clear - the Black Hand has five members, so Bethesda wanted you to have five people going into the Night Mother's crypt for this election ritual. It represents a hand without talons, but a whole hand nonetheless, and someone has to be elected as the thumb.
But in-universe, the only way it works is if there were some very hurried promotions, and what we have in game backs that up. The Player is promoted to Speaker pretty much immediately upon their arrival at Applewatch because Arquen and the others know that they're innocent. Bellamont, a confirmed Silencer, is also a Speaker now. Along with Arquen and Belisarius, that makes four. But they need five if they're going to be four fingers and a thumb when they invoke the Night Mother. So at some point, the Black Hand decided to pick a family member to become a Speaker, and that family member was Banus Alor. Maybe he was a potential Silencer candidate they were keeping tabs on in case a position opened up. Maybe he oversaw a Sanctuary. Or maybe he was chosen for his ability to kill, as that would aid them best against Lucien.
So yeah. Can you tell I didn't sleep at all last night?
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I've been playing Oblivion for a pretty long time now, and I still keep finding things that surprise me
(Dark Brotherhood Spoilers under the cut)
This was in J'Ghasta's house, aka our first Black Hand contract sent by Mathieu instead of Lucien. If you happen to pick the very hard lock on this keg, you'll find this inside
All of his Black Hand gear!!
Bethesda really gave us every clue available and still didn't let us warn Lucien, huh 😅
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Once upon a time, there was a small kitten…
En français : @frdouchevahkiin
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So I'm currently in the process of writing a silly goofy fanfiction based on a silly goofy idea I had a while back because I was sad that Lucien Lachance died.
But Arquen plays a pretty big part in the fic and I realized I've never drawn her, so I drew her the other day :)
Drawing her was more of a struggle than I had thought at first, but here she is.
More details for the AU and fic eventually
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Il était une fois un petit chat…
In English : @thedouchevahkiin
Disponible sur WEBTOON et MANGADRAFT (Le Douchevahkiin)
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I mean technically Arquen did nothing wrong but the fact that she and the Hero of Kvatch have to work together is so weird considering she ate their mentor's entrails just because... she can
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Once upon a time, there was a small kitten…
En français : @frdouchevahkiin
Available on WEBTOON and TAPAS (The Douchevahkiin)
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