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yelenaa-romanova · 2 years

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What always gets me in the end of Arcane episode 9 is Jinx. Not the tragedy of her starting a war when the council finally votes peace. Not even that she accidentally kills Silco. But how insecure she is, how torn between Vi, who's her sister, her blood, and Silco, the man who took her in when Vi left her. She knows to a point Silco is a bad man who manipulated her ("right here he stabbed Vander in the back, just like he planned to with me"), but she's been betrayed by Vi several times and therefore has a hard time trusting her. She wants to believe Vi when she says they could leave together, but then Vi keeps (unknowingly) reminding her of her past and her ghosts. Jinx is just written in a way that makes her thoughts and actions so perfectly understandable, even if I'm not in her state of mind. And that imo is what makes Arcane such a masterpiece.

#in conclusion:#I finished arcane again #I'm crying again #and I love jinx with all my heart #and want to protect her at all costs #arcane #arcane league of legends #arcane netflix #arcane lol #arcane jinx #jinx #arcane discourse #arcane analysis #arcane vi #arcane silco

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arcane-aficionado · 2 years

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You ever think about how Arcane wrote a spectrum of strong female characters with vastly different personalities, skill sets, body types, ethnicities, cultures, and abilities and and yet none of them felt like the a caricature or a “sexy lamp” (aka an objectified romantic interest cough prize to be won that has no real agency or function) like wow an animated tv series based off a vidya game really just did that, didn’t it?

Hollywood, take some notes, please.

#arcane #arcane discourse #arcane meta #arcane thoughts #women of arcane #arcane characters #league of legends #arcane show #arcane netflix #arcane series

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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 2 months

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“catra is a complex poc” fuck that. here are some ACTUAL poc animated characters who are just as, if not more complex than catra. (pt. 2)

mako (the legend of korra) • mixed (japanese and chinese)

min-gi park (infinity train) • korean-canadian

zuko (avatar the last airbender) • japanese

caitlyn kiramman (arcane) • bi-racial (east asian and presumably scottish)

miles morales (spiderverse) • puerto rican, afro-latino

amaya (the dragon prince) • east asian (ambiguous)

marshal lee (fionna and cake) • half-black (technically, marceline is black too but i figured marshal would be considered better representation)

carmen sandiego (carmen sandiego) • hispanic (argentinean-mexican)

toph (avatar the last airbender) • chinese

callum (the dragon prince) • half asian (ambiguous)

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candyskiez · 8 months

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what if we badly summarized the plots of our interests. I'll start

1. tiny neurodivergent bisexual with internalized ableism goes into a fantasy world and learns how to be an anarchist

2. chosen ones but make it an abuse allegory

3. kid goes to sleep and wakes up to literal mass murder

4. kid makes an entire fantasy RPG in his brain as his childhood friends lives fall apart due to their respective trauma

5. several lives are ruined because a kid stopped eating a sandwich and found a cool rock instead

6. several people are forced into high risk therapy by a morally ambiguous robot and also try to kill each other sometimes

7. a trans shark teaches a gay guy the power of incredible violence and fuck the police. the gay guy then proceeds to take that sentiment extremely literally.

#the owl house #toh #owl house #shera #she ra #spop #arcane #nimona #omori #not tagging third because theres so much discourse around that media that i just. do NOT wanna get anywhere near you feel me

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me-and-my-hyperfixations · 1 year

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When those super Anti-Silco people talk about how scary, abusive and controlling Silco is with Jinx, but the only time we see him try to discipline her she flat out laughs in his face.

Suggesting she hasn’t been disciplined enough. Even when she goes out and murders and commits terrorism.

He is a bad parent, just not in the way you think he is lmao.

#he raised a bratty daughter that gets away with literal terrorism #not a serious post #no discourse plz #silco #jinx #evil dad and chaotic daughter #arcane #Fortiche Studio #riot games #League of Legends

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feyosha · 6 months

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Spells and Artefacts

• Lantern of Diogenes (lamp): Forces the bearer to relentlessly detect and forcefully reject falsehood. Extended exposure may cause Apostasy, Atheism, Antiauthoritarianism, Public Nudity, Obscenity, Poor Grammar, Debasement of Currency, and Ostracism.

• Curse of The Chinese Room (spatial curse): Renders the inhabitants unable to subjectively comprehend language. They retain the ability to respond coherently, and will continue to do so, disguising the Curse. They will effortlessly answer questions and converse, despite having no subjective clue what is being said, even by them.

• Laplace’s Demons (set of figurines): “Observes” all quantum mechanical interactions within its sphere of influence, collapsing waveforms and rendering local Reality Classically Deterministic. Exposure to this “Determinism Field” interferes with cognition in higher mammals and with cellular metabolism in all living organisms, as chemical equilibria are shifted by Entropy behaving Classically

#wizardposting #feyosha #wizard #free range sustainable shitpost #magitechnobabble #arcane jargon #Laplace’s Demon #Chinese Room #diogenes #cursed #artifact #dungeons and discourse

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blood-starved-beast · 3 months

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*Pokes Riot*

Arcane Blu-Ray when

#I've complained about it before #but seriously I want to rewatch and own it #not netflix not a pirating place that'll give me and my shitty computer Trojan horses #Arcane #the Discourse

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raineyraven · 1 year

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yknow this is a thought that has been rattling around in my head for a long while, so i figured i may as well share it.

almost everyone is very well aware that the dream smp is a very morally grey narrative. we all know that, there are no perfectly righteous or purely evil characters, etc etc.

the thing that's been grating on me of late is that the fandom reactions to significant lore events don't really.. reflect this knowledge. hear me out.

ever since the red festival i've felt acutely aware of this. one of the longest-running debates in this fandom was who was in the wrong for tubbo's execution. techno for pulling the trigger, tommy and wilbur for not helping him. i saw post after post after post debating it the rest of that year. and i heavily disliked it. seeing people watch these characters have to improvise with an unpredicted circumstance and react to it imperfectly, reacting how their characters would be expected to, and then deciding to label some as right and some as wrong. to put them on those levels of morality, rather than viewing it through the morally grey lens the narrative has pushed. again, it just grated on me. treating these characters' decisions and actions as either wrong or right instead of treating them as decisions that move the narrative in fascinating ways and give us a window into their character.

i. dislike. when characters are made to embody either good or evil and have their flaws made respectable and palatable and easily overcome instead of more.. human i guess? it doesnt work for me, thats why i love the dsmp like i do. it's so human.

my brain started revisiting this train of thought after the c!wilbur and c!eret stream in may. the fandom reaction to that was.. a lot. again, post after post i saw opinions on c!eret did worse and c!wilbur's apology didnt make sense, or c!eret was right to be angry at c!wilbur for villainizing them, or any other number of thoughts that stem from the view that one of these characters are right and the other is wrong, that some actions and words were morally justified and others weren't.

very little did i see posts stepping back to look at this conflict in its purest form: a part of the narrative. talking about how fascinating it was that wilbur decided to apologize to eret now, how eret finally admitted how his words had hurt her. every discussion i saw was riddled with the question of did eret really deserve an apology from wilbur, was eret in the wrong for forcing a better apology out of him, who hurt the other more and who really deserved an apology from the other.

i could not help but think back to tubbo's execution after that stream. morally grey characters, morally grey decisions, viewed through the lens of sorting out who's right and who's wrong. who deserves what and how much do they deserve it. what moral box can we put this character into next.

and i've seen this pattern with so many other conflicts!! tubbo's decision to exile tommy, techno betraying pogtopia, doomsday. the narrative places absolutely no blame or condemnation on either side of these conflicts, it doesnt label either as wrong or right, so i guess people just. draw their own conclusions on it? it's weird to me, this need to discuss and debate the rightness and wrongness of these known morally grey characters and their morally grey actions and decisions. which one is better than the other, which one deserves to be listened to and the other condemned, which ones deserve to fight for forgiveness for the rest of their lives and which ones get to recieve it straight away. obviously, i'm not saying people shouldn't have opinions on these topics, i suppose just the constant insistence on subjectivity rather than objectivity when discussing controversial lore events like these irritate me.

i don't particularly know what i hope to achieve with this. i'm certainly not trying to attack anyone who's done this, just expressing my not understanding. it's just a weird way to discuss a morally grey story to me. i'd like to know if anyone else shares this sentiment, or if i'm just spouting nonsense. i don't think i am. this habit in the fandom has been frustrating me since i joined it in august 2020.

#fandom critical #jeez first time ive had to use that tag #i really dislike being critical on main but i had to get my thoughts out somehow #anyway #discourse #dsmp #dream smp #dsmpblr #c!wilbur #c!techno #c!tubbo #c!tommy #c!eret #button duo #clingy duo #oh and also! this isnt just a dsmp fandom thing #i remember seeing discussions around who was at fault for vi and powder's arguement from act 1 of arcane #and that also grated on me in a similar manner

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val-library · 2 months

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Is my assumption on this correct?

I’m struggling to fit an ‘actual’ orange anywhere. And though there are red/green ships I either don’t know where to put them (don’t think they are like their own big category, more in the way pink/green is), besides most of the time while the characters might be red & green the ship dynamic itself can be put in one of these 3 major categories)

Source is “the vibe”. So that’s why I’d like to get others opinion and thought on this too!

Also would like to exchange thoughts on the poly one :)

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matt0044 · 8 months

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“Audiences wants-“ “Audiences likes-“

Message to YouTube essayists and FilmTwitter:

Don't use highly generalized audience reactions and ratings as accrued by highly failable online sites to boister your own opinion.

Just give me your own opinion so I can either agree with you or thrust my index finger out boldly to object to. I didn't click on one person's video for some "consensus."

Especially when it comes to female characters. Maybe, juuuuuuuust maybe, Arcane doesn't need to be this standard bearer when we could have a variety. I'm sure that for everyone who worships Vi at the alter, there are some who's prefer something else.

Sincerely,

Somebody who is some friggin' tired of this "attention economy." How is that term NOT something out of a boomer's satire of kids these days?

#film twitter #arcane #arcane league of legends #arcane vi #female characters #audience response #youtubers #youtube #video essays #video essay #films #blockbusters #fandom discourse #fandom nonsense #i am so tired

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idkwhatimdoingbutslay · 1 year

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Um I’m gonna discourse another discourse because I refuse to learn my lesson.

In the notes of my poll post about most overhated character, there’s been a ton of discussions about Jayce since he’s winning. This led to the discussion of the scene of Jayce and Vi raiding a shimmer factory and the death of a child that’s there.

So I guess I’m asking for everyone’s thoughts on this scene because I think that a lot of people who don’t like Jayce and/or Vi use this scene as proof that they’re bad people (?).

I thought this scene was kind of awesome. Not just because the whole fight was epic or because Snakes is SUCH A GOOD SONG, but because it showed a pivotal moment for Jayce’s character. He went from “The Undercity is dangerous” to looking the Undercity straight into its eye.

Same for Vi. She told Jayce off (as she should). Saying that Jayce has always had blood on his hands, just without him knowing. It really humanized her and actually acknowledged her own struggles with Piltover, her experiences in Stillwater and how her upbringing in the Undercity affected her.

My thing is that… no one talks about Silco’s reaction to the raid or the fact that he’s the one who put those kids in the factory in the first place.

#arcane #Vi #Vi arcane #Jayce #jayce talis #Jayce arcane #silco #Silco arcane #NOT A SILCO HATE POST #I’m just discoursing a discourse #to slay or not to slay

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angellwingss · 9 months

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I genuinely can’t understand where ppl are coming from when they say that Mel is like?? Taking advantage of Jayce?? Did we watch the same show????? They are so sweet so soft and so so perfect together what is your problem!!

#I hate discourse but it’s driving me mad I can’t escape this shit #aghhh the voices #anyway #arcane #jayce talis #mel medarda #meljay

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ramblesbiab · 2 months

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I feel like the more I engage in fandoms of shows I like, the more I understand the sentiment that it's usually better to just. Enjoy something by myself. As nice as it is to like the same silly little characters as others, if I have to see anymore Blue Eye Samurai or Hazbin Hotel or Arcane discourse then I'm going to scream.

#fandom #Blue Eye Samurai #Hazbin Hotel #Arcane #it's mostly Blue Eye Samurai honestly #I'm so sick of people dismissing the trans male aspects of Mizu #I don't even personally see her as trans male!!#And I still am upset on their behalf!#Let people like the character how they want to #smh #now I'm becoming part of the discourse

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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 2 months

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“c//a is like caitvi”

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crimsonbits · 4 months

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You're not a "new type of youkai" that has "adapted to mountain dwelling", you just put a camo outfit on and moved to a different place. Have fun experiencing long-term dehydration, dipshit. I'm sure having to probably double your already demanding sodium intake in order not to collapse will be worth it.

#touhou #touhou project #sorry I just can't help but think of the insane types of arcane youkai discourse #the kappa and tengu would have if they developed some sort of 00s esque proto social media on their clunky old devices #have you seen the tumblr post thats like 'underwater twitter call that flipper where you do fishcourse and tell others to krill themselves“#mild unreality warning I guess btw #crimposting #this isnt a good bit. sorry.#wait I have one more. Kappa discourse is called 'dishcourse' and they call all websites 'webbed sites'.#thank you I'll be here all night

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feyosha · 8 months

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The Glass is always all-the-way full. Sometimes there’s more air, sometimes more water, but it is de facto always full.

If you had a glass that was actually half empty, like, with absolutely nothing in the second half, the half empty part would fill with air within milliseconds with a loud bang. At least, assuming the water was in the bottom half of the glass.

If the water was in the top half of the glass, it would probably destroy the glass, to be honest.

Am I making any sense? I have illustrations around here somewhere… that might help…

Randall Monroe does a better job of explaining what’s going on here than I can, so I’ll just leave a link here for the curious.

But yea. Glass is always completely full.

#wizardposting #wizard #feyosha #arcane jargon #free range sustainable shitpost #magitechnobabble #randall munroe #what if #glass half empty #glass half full #philosophy shitpost discourse #Weaponized Aristotalean Epistemology

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