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spopsalt · 2 days

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People who used to ship c//a but stop have a better redemption arc than Catra

#spop critical #anti spop #spop discourse #spop criticism #anti catra #spop crit #spop salt #antic//a #anti c//a #anti catradora

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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 2 months

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“catra is a complex poc” fuck that. here are some ACTUAL poc animated characters who are just as, if not more complex than catra.

grace monroe (infinity train) • black american

connie maheshwaran (steven universe) • indian-american

katara (avatar the last airbender) • inuk

wolf (kipo and the age of wonderbeasts) • black american

suhara/shadowsan (carmen sandiego) • japanese

korra (the legend of korra) • inuk

jesse cosay (infinity train) • indigenous (apache)

lars barriga (steven universe) • filipino

azula (avatar the last airbender) • japanese

ryan akagi (infinity train) • japanese-canadian

luz noceda (the owl house) • afro-dominican american

(there are a lot more, so i'll be making a part 2!)

#spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #the owl house #toh #infinity train #tlok #the legend of korra #korra #avatar the last airbender #atla #kipo and the age of wonderbeasts #carmen sandiego #steven universe #steven universe future

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madnessandentropy · 4 months

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If you say a healthy relationship where the characters respect each other and are an equal level is "boring" you are an instant red flag to me, because every person who says this turns out to be a piece of shit that glorifies abuse and, if they are a creator, generally suck at storytelling as well

EDIT: Just to clarify I don't mean you can't enjoy toxic ships. I didn't get it across well, but what I'm talking about is fans who ignore blatant abuse and try paint it as a "spicy romance" and dismissing healthier ships/couples as "boring and vanilla". If you refuse to acknowledge a relationship is toxic and instead glorify/romanticise it while saying actually healthy ships are too boring then you are in fact a red flag

#thoughts #this applies to so many damn fandoms #vivziepop critical #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catradora #anti spop #lo criticism #lo critical #lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus

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shyrgyrryn · 3 months

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y'all, I just remembered that Bow is the youngest of thirteen. Where did the other twelve go? Even when the world is quite literally ending, Bow shows no concern for or even mentions his brothers. His fathers don't mention them either. Not a single one.

What's the point of giving him siblings, especially that many, and not including them in the story some way. Especially in situations where it makes sense.

They could have easily made Bow's backstory involve these characters. In my rewrite, I plan(?) on having Bow have an older brother (only one because thirteen kids are way too many) who was killed by the Horde. This is the reason why he insists on fighting in the war. It is also the reason why his fathers are so against him being involved.

They could have easily added something like this in the reboot. Bow literally said in the second episode that "everyone has lost someone to the Horde."

Who did he lose? Where are his brothers? Are they okay? Does he not have a close relationship with them? I guess we'll never know.

#spop discourse #spop critical #spop salt #anti spop #bad writing #she ra #spop #shera critical #bow #bow she ra #bow spop

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sealnoodlesoup · 22 days

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My stupid opinion that will get me killed by the entire She-Ra fandom

Shadow Weaver had a better redemption arc than C4tra

Yes, I know that Shadow wasn't fully redeemed, was terrible, and never apologized for her actions. But at least she was useful and helped the rebellion, unlike C4tra who was just getting in everyone's way. Shadow had many chances to betray the rebellion but she didn't meanwhile C4tra (who committed more and worse crimes than Shadow) would probably betray them all if someone offered her greater power because she only joined the rebellion when it was her only chance of survival despite being offered to join them many times before. And while C4tra did say she was sorry she never properly apologized for everything she did (like killing Angela and almost destroying the universe) and her apology always felt like she was just trying to earn sympathy from others. And she continued treating everyone horribly even after that. Shadow Weaver stayed loyal to the rebellion until the very end and even died for them, I know many people say that she only killed herself to traumatize C4tra, but the only proof of that they have is the "You're welcome" and it still can be argued what she meant by that (In my opinion it was "You're Welcome, now that I'm dead I won't bother you anymore" I'm not gonna explain why I think that here because this post is not about that). Shadow was the one who found a way to stop Horde Prime and did everything to make sure it worked, meanwhile, C4tra was being a nuisance and a distraction just so she could be with Adora and didn't care that the world might get destroyed because of it. She tried to stop Adora from taking the failsafe even though Adora was the only person who could survive it and got angry when Adora chose to save the world first instead of making out with her. Just to be clear I'm not talking about who was a morally better person, but who made up for their actions more.

In conclusion: Actions speak louder than words, Shadow Weaver was useful to the rebellion while C4tra was not.

#anti spop #anti catradora #anti catra #anti catra stans #spop discourse #spop critical #spop criticism #spop salt #my opinion #anti c//a #ftlosw

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anti-catradora-collection · 2 months

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just leaving this here.

#also sorry for my absence! im back #im going through a lot and had to take a break from this blog #but thanks for your patience!#spop discourse #spop salt #spop critical #spop criticism #anti catradora #anti spop #anti c//a #anti c/a #spop #she ra #anti catra

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starlight-bread-blog · 8 months

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Ememy Vs. Abuser: Catradora

Disclaimer: Netflix doesn't allow me to take screenshots. I tried to find clips on Youtube but a lot of these are stolen. And an obvious tw for abuse.

When Catradora antis bring up how Catra abused Adora in seasons 1-4, a lot of people seem to be confused. The go-to defense is the following:

"Catra and Adora were enemies, they were put against each other in many battles. The 'abuse' is just what you'd normally expect from enemies to lovers".

A complelling argument, for sure. How can you expect of Catra to not be violent with someone who was put against her? The answer to this question can be answered through a different question: Why is Catra the abuser? Why not Adora?

What's the difference between an enemy, and an abuser?

1# The aggressor is particularly cruel to their future partner.

Catra doesn't use her claws on real people very often. She mostly uses them on objects or robots (or Shadow Weather's mask).

At times, it's clear tnat she would gain a lot from using her claws, but she doesn't.

One might suggest that it's because she understands the full weight of using them. Whatever the case may be, there is a person she doesn't seem to have these reservations about: Adora.

2# Their intreractions contain emotional abuse.

Catra often blames Adora for things that aren't her fault. She's cruel to Adora, deliberately and viciously hurts her.

She makes mean spirited remarks and belittles her.

Additionally, Catra gaslit her.

And wouldn't you know it, she takes pride in having control over Adora.

3# There is no balance.

As we previously established, Catra has no problem being needlessly cruel to Adora. But is Catra in the same danger? It it at least mutually toxic?

It's not. Adora can fight and defend herself, but won't do more than she needs. Meanwhile, Catra seem to relish in brutalizing her.

Further more, moments that could be considered romantic build up in their own, "spicy" way, are positioned with Catra on top, where Adora has no choice but to comply, where she's stuck there.

4# The aggressor got in the victim's head.

Adora has a guilt complex. That's not a controversial take. She takes too much responsibility and thinks everything is her fault. A lot of this stems from Shadow Weaver, but there's another source.

And Adora is very quick to internalize her cruel remarks.

In Conclusion:

Catra and Adora's relationship can and was abusive during the war. They share specific patterns of abusive relationships even at war zone. Catra hurting Adora isn't all war stuff, it's personal, it's abusive.

#anti spop #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catradora #anti catra #anti c//a #anticatradora #antic//a #anticatra #antispop #catra critical #spop salt #catradora salt #shera princess of power critical #catradora is abusive #tw abuse #tw mental abuse #tw pysical abuse

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sunnydust2003 · 2 months

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This scene:

My honest reaction:

Are you same bitch who trying killed your fucking girlfriends.

#anti spop #anti catradora #anti catra #aosth scratch and grounder #aosth scratch #aosth grounder #scratch and grounder

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cloudgossip79 · 2 months

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Please don't attack this person.

Can C//A stop insulting Glimdora? Please???

#spop discourse #anti c//a #anti catradora #anti spop #anti catra #anti stans #spop criticism #spop critical #the fuck is with the caption???

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shadowflayeronlyfanz2 · 2 months

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"yall want complex female characters but couldn't handle catra" maybe cause she was abusive and never changed. ever think of that

#anti spop #spop critical #anti catra

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stanlunter · 1 month

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Glimmadora antis be Like: "would you like to be shipped with your best friend, while ur already in relationship with someone else?"

But would YOU like ito be shipped with your adoptive sibling who has been abusing you since childhood, hurt you both mentally and physically, kidnapped your friends and tried to kill you multipe times?

#Glimmadora #anti catradora #Anti c//a #Anti catra #Anti spop #anti shera #spop criticism

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spopsalt · 3 days

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Adora making fun of Kyle is so out of character, it's not even funny, not that making fun of Kyle was ever funny in the first place, like Adora is a pretty patient and kind person, yet she always bullies Kyle? I can see Catra bullying Kyle, but Adora? Adora???

#anti spop #spop discourse #spop criticism #spop crit #spop salt #anti catra #spop critical

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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 2 months

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“catra is a complex poc” fuck that. here are some ACTUAL poc animated characters who are just as, if not more complex than catra. (pt. 2)

mako (the legend of korra) • mixed (japanese and chinese)

min-gi park (infinity train) • korean-canadian

zuko (avatar the last airbender) • japanese

caitlyn kiramman (arcane) • bi-racial (east asian and presumably scottish)

miles morales (spiderverse) • puerto rican, afro-latino

amaya (the dragon prince) • east asian (ambiguous)

marshal lee (fionna and cake) • half-black (technically, marceline is black too but i figured marshal would be considered better representation)

carmen sandiego (carmen sandiego) • hispanic (argentinean-mexican)

toph (avatar the last airbender) • chinese

callum (the dragon prince) • half asian (ambiguous)

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madnessandentropy · 6 months

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I made another one (plus one more)

#hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical #vivziepop critical #spop critical #spop critisism #anti spop #anti catradora #anti stolitz #meme #text

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justmenoworries · 26 days

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Trying to explain to C*tra-stans that C*tra supposedly being remorseful doesn't change the fact that she still did a lot of fucked up stuff completely of her own volition.

And C*tra's go-to response when realizing that she messed up is to dig her heels in and find someone else to blame (in most cases Adora).

She even does this in S5. Literally until the moment she has nowhere else to turn to, C*tra is completely unapologetic and refuses to take responsibility. Even post-"I'm sorry for everything", once she has options again C*tra immediately defaults to playing victim and pushing as much of the blame as she can on other people (mostly Adora).

Remorse doesn't mean shit if you don't act on it.

#spop critical #anti c//a #spop salt #anti spop season 5 #anti spop

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broodpuff · 7 months

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so i can’t reblog this bc op blocked me and deleted my replies to this post after their lil knight tried to defend their hot take lol, just know these anti-spops are so deeply diluted and worryingly dedicated to vilify fans for simply enjoying a show and their ships, using comparisons so extreme as to consider them actual terrorists. all i see in the tags is cute fan art, gift sets, love and appreciation for the show, then a shit ton of crazed hatred towards the show and ships, specifically catradora. I could go on a very, very long winded response as to how depraved it is and how stupid they sound but at the end of the day it’s a cartoon, it’s the stupidest thing to let your blood boil and start reaching for anything in an attempt to wedge a narrative to validate their opinion. it’s so silly.

#spop #she ra #adora #catra #catradora #anti catra #anti spop #anti adora #anti she ra

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