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omegalomania · 2 years

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Wait why does everyone hate brendon urie again?

i was tempted to just say "google it" but honestly panic's pr team is working doubletime to sanitize this bastard so here's a quick primer for those who are out of the loop.

this got long so i’m putting it under a cut. as a warning, this is going to have discussions and screenshots of people saying and doing extremely morally reprehensible shit, including racist, homophobic, and transphobic language, sexual harassment of minors, and more. tread with caution.

i'm also going to top this off with the caveat that brendon has a history of saying generally stupid and casually shitty things that a lot of people have noticed and called attention to, but these were largely unremarkable in the sense that they were the sort of things that i was not surprised to hear a privileged cis dude say. so while that's definitely a factor - the guy has said very shitty, openly racist, gross things, etc., numerous times and on numerous platforms and i do not want to overlook that - i also don't want to pretend like that’s the only thing going on here because there is a lot of other heinous shit at work.

i’m also not going to go into the intricacies of song meanings or lyrics and the like aside from a couple touchstone examples. it’s pretty public knowledge by now that i don’t know how but they found me (henceforth referred to as idkhow, fronted by dallon weekes, who worked/toured with panic for a good eight years as its bassist) has quite a few numbers that take implicit and explicit aim at panic, most prominently the video for their single “do it all the time,” which featured dallon setting fire to all the suits he used to wear on tour with the band. it’s an open secret that dallon was not treated very well during his time with panic, but we’ll get to that. the point here is that i don’t want to focus on conjecture of speculation when we have a wealth of very hard evidence at our disposal.

so let’s get into it.

the real Poop started up late 2019 iirc, when numerous panic fans started passing around stories about zack hall, panic's bodyguard and security guy who had been with the band since the fever era. as the only person who had actually been with the band as long as brendon himself, zack had a fair amount of sway with the fans and was notably very very close with brendon. as more and more people spoke up, it became apparent that zack had done a whole lot of things that i would term as "incredibly fucked up" over the years with people being generally afraid to say anything. it’s been pointed out to me that these accusations only picked up traction around that time; fans have been raising flags about zack’s behavior for years without any reaction from panic’s management.

around this time, discussion began circulating that brendon himself had sexually harassed/assaulted multiple fans (many of them minors at the time). some of these accusations, such as his attempt to solicit nudes from fans, have proven to be way muddier to and harder to confirm, seeing as brendon was allegedly not in charge of his socials for some of this time and one of the people using his handles to solicit fans for nudes was reportedly a former stalker of his, chelsey lynn.

i think it is worth noting that brendon has brought up his history with “stage gay” with founding member, guitarist, composer, and lyricist ryan ross and mentioned that brendon’s attempts to get handsy on stage were not always taken kindly (emphasis mine):

For our first headline tour I would go up to Ryan our guitar player, and like kiss him on the neck or kiss him on the mouth and he would be so mad. I was like, I just want to kiss you bro.

(that’s also the interview where brendon tried to both-sides the issue of roseanne being a hideous fucking racist. so, fun stuff.)

in any case, it took brendon four months to respond to any of the accusations leveled at him and zack. he ended up doing so by filming a two-minute apology on his twitch account (which was locked to subscribers only, meaning it was essentially monetized) [twitter thread summary for those who can't stomach it], only to say that he was just too anxious to say anything and that while zack had been removed from his position, he and brendon would remain close friends. he did not respond to any of the allegations against himself, and proceeded to basically go completely radio silent on all social media until reemerging in 2022 to promote viva las vengeance.

(contrast to this to how speedily he fired touring guitarist kenny harris in 2018 when multiple allegations arose that he was soliciting underage girls. he was removed from the tour in less than twenty-four hours. while the expediency of this was praised at the time, it retroactively raises a lot of questions as to how much brendon and/or zack knew about this behavior beforehand and were simply waiting for a good PR call to do something about it.)

brendon seeing no issues with zack’s behavior and only doing something about it when backed into a corner is very much not a good look, and is suggestive of the possibility that he’s complicit in or at the very least tolerant of this kind of fuckery.

but wait. theres more.

beyond the genuine fucked up behavior, brendon also has a history of severely mistreating his bandmates. we could get into the politics of the infamous schism that split founding member ryan ross (along with bassist jon walker) from brendon and the band’s drummer, spencer smith, but that is its own bag of worms and this post is long enough already. that drama is very well-covered. however, i think it’s worth noting that out of every single member of the band that has come through it, both creative contributor and touring member, the only former member to depart the band amiably was spencer, who took his leave because of struggles with alcoholism. he’s the only one who remains on good terms with brendon to this day, but he’s also technically brendon’s boss at this point since he helps manage the label dcd2, of which panic at the disco is a part.

most apparent and well-documented of brendon’s spotty history with his own bandmates is his treatment of dallon weekes and his wife, breezy weekes, while the former was writing and touring with the band. in that little zack hall clusterfuck above you can see places where breezy talked about being repeatedly harassed but electing to keep quiet so that dallon wouldn't risk losing his job. reportedly they both went to panic's management to put a stop to it, but the bad behavior continued, with both zack hall and brendon’s wife, sarah urie, as propagators. there was public outcry as people insisted that dallon and breezy were making this up for attention. however, eventually former touring guitarist (from 2009-2012) ian crawford (along with his sister), both spoke up to corroborate that zack's behavior (and brendon's enabling of it) were very much recurring issues and were part of the reason that ian left panic in the first place. ian's twitter is no longer active, so all i have are screenshots on tumblr for this one.

dallon has not spoken of his time spent with panic with much fondness. he replaced bassist jon walker in 2009 and contributed creatively on both vices and virtues (2011) and too weird to live, too rare to die (2013). for the former, he was responsible for the concept and album art. for the latter, he got writing credit for all but two of the tracks (casual affair and end of all things), and you can even find an early version of "far too young to die" that was originally penned for one of dallon's earlier projects, the brobecks. the controversial track "girls/girls/boys" (as well as “all the boys”) from too weird was written for dallon's wife, breezy, as a celebration for her pansexuality. the finished product would end up being about an alleged threesome brendon had.

in 2015 dallon stated that he would no longer be involved in panic’s writing process but would continue to serve as touring bassist before departing officially in 2017 and focusing all his efforts on the aforementioned idkhow along with former falling in reverse drummer (and former fellow brobecks bandmate) ryan seaman. while dallon has remained relatively cagey about his time with panic (as is entirely within his rights), he has on occasion commented that he often felt bullied and belittled in the workplace, and once referred to zack hall as "the actual worst person [he had] ever met."

breezy has been more frank about what dallon had to deal with during his time with the band and over time, dallon has been more up front about this as well. turns out dallon was underpaid to the point where he had to take up a second job cleaning carpets while touring with panic, and working side jobs and donating plasma for gas money between tours. this continued well into 2010 and possibly for longer. the ratio was reportedly something like $400 a night compared to brendon's $15k paycheck, so take that as you will.

that's most of what i can remember. i tried to sauce everything i could but please let me know if i missed anything. i also tried to embed the images but doing so kept breaking the damn post cause this is a webbed site so you only get links SORRY

tldr brendon urie is self-absorbed prick who hoards credit, mistreats his musicians, shelters predators, and may very well be a predator himself. fuck him.

also, while i definitely don't want to downplay the severity of just how horrendous a lot of this shit is, in the interests of not wrapping this on a totally down note i do want to mention that people were writing brendon and panic out of the "emo trinity" legacy as early as mid-2019 because everyone hated pray for the wicked that fucking much. after having to endure the musical travesty that is high hopes innumerable times during every single 20-minute grocery store run i was ready to chalk up my dislike of him to sheer annoyance so you can imagine my surprise when i learned that not only was this annoyance justified i wasn't actually hating him nearly enough.

#panic at the disco #brendon urie #yeah whatever ill maintag this just in case people arent aware #also yes you can reblog this as a general rule i never put something on this blog im not ok w people reblogging #have fun go wild whatever but people looking to pick a fight WILL be blocked #i was watching a lot of this going down in real time but there arent a lot of useful consolidations of all this information #and i'd like to stress that this is a fraction of a fraction of whats out there #theres also a lot of discussion on tiktok reportedly?? idk i dont have a tiktok and never will #if anyone feels like adding anything feel free but do please source it #i have had to fight off TOO many intrepid discoursers with a pointy stick to deal with unsauced claims currently #askin hours #anon #SORRY THIS TOOK SO LONG also i have been drinking quite a bit at this point hopefully this is all coherent lol

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a-n-i-m-a-t-i-o-n · 7 days

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Treasure Planet concept art

Source: Disney Fandom Wiki

Concept artist(s) unknown, I tried google reverse image search but only ended up back at the fandom wiki.

#treasure planet #concept art #films #2000s #disney #while I'm skeptical about info & images from fandom wikis these drawings do look legit #several of them have the very early more human-ish designs that you can see in other pieces of concept art #and also??? it's so cool to see how some of them imitate the 2d style of the final movie!! so cool!#treasure planet 2002 #jim hawkins #captain amelia #dr delbert doppler #john silver #if anyone knows another source for these images please let me know!

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hororona · 4 months

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nico robin and her smile

hiiii ok has anyone else ever thought about the person robin was before joining the straw hats? like who she was when she was at her worst? because i do. a lot. so go along with me here

from her introduction, robin has this very small smile that feels cunning and is seemingly meant to taunt luffy and co. it creates a sense that there's a canyon's depth of difference in power between her and the others.

robin's is a subtle character in her expressions compared to most other major characters in the series. and i think it fits her background of having to work in subterfuge. (???)

she maintains this expression throughout multiple scenes. the same shape of her smile that is so exact that it has to be with intention. this is the face of ms. all sunday. this is the person robin had to be in order to survive.

and yet each one still has it's differences and that's robin being not so perfect at hiding her true feelings (which btw i love that robin will always be exactly who she is). she's stressed or even strained at times. while also feeling perfectly at ease, but still performing a role.

i think for the most part. robin didn't mind what she had to do or who she had to be. because she's pragmatic, but she was definitely bothered by vivi and the strawhats. they're the ones who cause robin to show anything other than that static smile. notably when she is faced with vivi and luffy's determination.

and i've rambled about it once before robin is a kind woman at heart and who has a soft spot for the crew + vivi. their earnestness breaks through her own desire/need to not care for the effect her actions have on the lives of others.

notably the only times robin does seem to genuinely smile is in small sudden outbursts around luffy when something he does makes her laugh.

and throughout the rest of the alabasta arc. robin's clearly uncomfortable with facing the real destruction of alabasta at crocodile and her hands. later revealing that she never planned on helping him obtain the poseidon weapon. she never once smiles, instead dropping everything to focus on getting to the poneglyph.

after that though? she does her miss all sunday smile one last time when she asks luffy to join his crew. it's a famous panel, we all know it, we all love it.

the longer robin was with the straw hats. the more she began to genuinely smile. it's well established that being on the crew brought back joy and laughter into robin's life, that being with them gave her a reason to live again. but it was a slow start until we got to see this robin more often and more freely who is cheered by everyone's bright youth and excitement in being alive in a ways that she never had been allowed.

#one piece #nico robin #i've been working on this one slowly but surely #please i hope this makes sense and i'm not like alone here #using inconsistent sources because i'm not the biggest fan of viz's translation but sometimes have to read it #i haven't read onigashima yet so i can't talk about it with surety just yet but robin also has the habit of using accessories to denote whe #she isn't being herself.#it's why robin stopped wearing the cowboy hats post w7/enies lobby. despite the fact that the she looked so good in it.#i think in onigashima (and vaugely post-ts when she's in hiding) it was her sunglasses btw #i thought this would be longer tbh and it could be but i got impatient and didn't want to wait til later #the full better version is the version of this is made as a total nico robin character study that tracks from her character intro to now

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editonic · 1 year

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alhaitham and kaveh are neurodivergent and each other's special interest

#kaveh #alhaitham #haikaveh #kavetham #genshin impact #genshin headcanons #genshit #theyre gay your honor #theyre in love your honor #theyre neurodivergent your honor #theyre all three your honor PLEASE put them in gay baby jail finally #and they were roommates #like they cannot be any frutier #also if u dont believe me look at how/how much they talk about each other #alhaitham has autism and kaveh has adhd u cant change my mind unless to say they both have autism #edit: actually yeah kaveh has audhd ive decided it just makes sense #anyway id say i dont make the rules but actually i do #source: theyre my current hyperfixation

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klickklackwack · 7 months

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nobody on track truly able to terrorize max atm

max’s own team: ”hold my red bull”

#max verstappen #red bull racing #mv1 #u can even see the dude who does it #that was deliberate lol #also im looking at you gp #are you trolling #PLEASE NO TALKING AT THE BRAKING MAN #us gp 2023 #formula 1 #f1 #first qatar and now this #source: tiktok

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spllwys · 23 days

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i'm going on exam season lockdown as of today, which means no more gifs/edits/anything else because i spend way too much time on them for an engineering student in the trenches lmao. posting this not because i think anybody will notice or care, but so i can hold myself accountable and get embarrassed if i break the pledge. see you on june 3rd for a ghovie creativity extravaganza

edit: besides the ghovie trailer 😭 i cant restrain myself from that one

#actually june 4th because i will be drinking on june 3rd from the moment i close my semiconductors paper #cold turkey on gif making KHBJDGVSCDH RIP #genuinely its such a relaxing thing to do that i find myself prioritising it #and unlike other chill activities it gives me the illusion of productivity #i really need to be getting that from my work and not silly bands #anyway. see u #also in my 4 years of making edits like this in many different circles i've never once felt the need to mention a like/reblog ratio #and i'm fully of the opinion that people can do whatever the hell they like and i never expect interaction #i'm grateful for what i do have #but what primarily motivates me to do this is people sharing their love for whatever is on the post #in the tags or elsewhere #i'm not talking praise or thanks or anything to me i mean 'i love this song' or 'papa looks great here' skdcvkdgvs #'this is my favourite band' u know? it's sharing passion with other people and having them share theirs with me #and in all the 4 years and many many fandoms this (ghost/st) is by far the worst for interaction like that #i'd say ghost especially skhjcsd #and this tag rant isn't a request or a 'please interact more!' or anything like that it's just #a reason as to why i'm a bit discouraged that i'm chatting about to nobody #oh yeah and especially seeing photos posted with no source and no edits get 5x the notes you'd get #the quantity of notes doesn't matter to me but the discussion and tags do #just checked my notes in the middle of typing this and someone rbed some papa ii gifs with #'hope he's steady on his feet the way i would run into him'#KDSGKDSD that's what i'm on about 😭😭😭😭😭#makes me smile knowing something i posted made somebody feel joy abt a silly band and then shared that with me through the tags #i'm aware i've been here for just over one month so shouldn't be making judgements just yet #but sometimes i wish there was more of that

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quatregats · 2 months

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This is probably Bush and also Pullings's native dialect (though I have many MANY doubts about what exactly the methodology being used here was)

#they have texts and they have informants and they have the informants read the text but i'm not really sure how that's supposed to work #anyways this is definitely the dialect pullings grew up speaking since afaik he's the son of hampshire farmers #apparently chichester is in area 5 as well so also falls under this categorization #this is very unrigorous research btw. please take everything i am saying with a grain of salt i'm just fiddling around with an old book #i'll look for a good basic primer on history/dialectology of english at the library at some point perhaps #i do not have the historical context/cross-references to verify any of this guy's claims #i just really like dialect and english-language ones are so much fun what with all the crazy vowel combos #and apparently lots of rhoticity??? he's claiming this accent was also rhotic which is a little insane #would love to read a history of rhoticity in english tbh #perce rambles #adventures in historical sociolinguistics #percy yells at cecil scott #The Creative Endeavor and other aubreyad nonsense #if you go to the source there's a lot of texts in this section i just picked one

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randomfaeriedragon · 10 months

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Recently been very obsessed with @weepinglilvessel's Rainworld Eclipse AU, so motivation struck and I drew fanart of Lunar Moon!

Sorry if the images are kind of fuzzy! Decal script by @ikayblythe again, its really pretty :D

Variations w/o the shadows under the cut!

And for my peace of mind, ones with purely the Red Overlay Layer Removed:

Fanarting is fun and this AU is absolutely amazing, please go check the creator out!

#rw eclipse au #rw looks to the moon #rw lttm #rw fanart #rain world fanart #I called the images above the cut “dramatic” and I think it suits them well #the inter-character relationships between these robots seized my brain and refused to let go please send help #I had to screenshot the full images (weird program only allows 3 image saves a day) so that definitely didn't help with their quality-#I also enjoyed trying to do highlights and shadows here #though the shadows might not have been very accurate to the main light source (Moon's eye)#plus i discovered I don't know how to draw cloth #still pretty new to art but I'm testing stuff out and learning with what I have :)#I might redesign my profile picture soon but I'm not sure #anyways hello to the people who somehow see this last tag #randomfaerieart

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pagib1g · 4 months

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none of my business whether yall self ship with hazbin hotel characters or whatever, but since im seeing an influx of it (likely because of the new show) i'd like to remind yall to please boycott it (and pirate it if you must). it is being hosted on amazon, one of the BDS's pressure targets in the strike for palestine's cause– while it is acknowledged that you realistically cannot fully boycott targets like amazon (because of their monopoly over shipping), it will still be helpful to drop things sponsored by it that you ultimately do not need.

the self ship community has presented itself as an open and diverse community for years– prove it by being willing to stop giving profit to media that has a stake in hurting others.

support palestinian self shippers.

#this also applies to media such as: the last of us / percy jackson / stranger things / scream / etc #and the flag means death too btw. especially with what that 'charity' was saying about causes like palestine #understand that no one's asking you to fully give these things up but you should at least minimize it #and understand that while these medias and your f/os are sources of comfort to you they are still ultimately luxuries #luxuries that a lot of palestinians cannot indulge in rn #it might be easy for some of yall to dismiss them as numbers but theyre people just like us. they enjoyed fandoms they indulged in daydreams #they make art they write stories. but right now they cannot #one beloved artist in the jjk community (noury) recently lost her eye. she will not be able to create art the same way she used to #know that and acknowledge how lucky you are.#so many fandoms and safe spaces online fall into traps of individualism and justify it with therapyspeak #like 'im looking out for my mental health!' please dont fall into this trap too. remember you must care for others #long post #self ship #self ship community

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glassrunner · 3 months

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i’m so unbelievably fucking frustrated that something as cool and groundbreaking as AI (which i literally went back to college to study!!!) is being used for such fucking nefarious purposes

i always dreamed of finding the spirit in the machine and now it’s just being bastardized to take away jobs from hardworking creators — mostly by arrogant techbro fucknuts who sneer at these creators for pursuing art, but then tell on themselves for not having the discipline to truly learn a craft

#insights #i hope to god generative ai legislation gets passed soon #especially with the fucking sora abomination and the fact that elections are coming up #not to mention it’s still not true general AI…#also please remember social media should not be used as a news source #especially when so much of it is just advertising and algorithms #there’s going to be AI videos sneaking in and if you don’t look carefully you WILL get tricked #fucking hell i hate this era of capitalism and rampant consumerism

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space-writes · 1 month

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worldbuilding in 5 tag

tagged a bit back by @tabswrites, thank you!

Rules: post 3-5 images of a place in your world and tell us a bit about it!

for this one I’m going to do Voi’xindiiri, otherwise known as the Draconic Empire, from Valloroth!

Source 1 - [ID - A low angle photograph of a pagoda temple against a bright blue sky. The stone is grey, the roof gold with green supports.] Source 2 - [ID - A path lined by short stone columns, wooden fencing, and tall, straight trees.] Source 3 - [ID - The front of a large building with four pillars in front of a wooden door. Incomplete text is visible above the columns. The readable words are ‘I. ACAD. CONDITORE. POSUIT.’] Source 4 - [ID - A Roman bath beneath an overcast sky. Statues line the encircling open roof.] Source 5 - [ID - A stone monument of four carved figures sits in the foreground of a city vista.]

Voi’xindiiri is what remains of the dracari empire, created—and still ruled—by the Earthbound god, Sirsassa the black, who is the only living dragon left in the world. The Empire has forgotten more magic than the rest of Valloroth knows, and used to cover the entire eastern half of the continent before it fell to the destructive betrayal of the now-dead dragon, Ruvosha the Green.

Currently, Voi’xindiiri remains the most magically advanced nation, though it rarely shares its secrets. The most unique feature is the network of teleportation Waystations that criss-cross the country. Every major settlement possesses one, and the larger cities—especially the capital—have multiple. Travel across the Empire is fast and efficient for those with the coin to make use of it, and the most successful merchants always do. The secret of their creation has, unfortunately, been lost to time.

It covers a vast swathe of Valloroth, and a multitude of diverse environments. It’s divided into 15 provinces, the largest being Sahlizivara, where the capital of Kashoskalya holds the Imperial Palace of the God-Empress. Until recently, Mohaade and Fygek were also considered part of Voi’xindiiri, and many in the Empire still don’t recognise their independence, not least because the Zarahmin took control of the Mohaade Waystation and corrupted it to kill any dracari that uses it.

[ID - a green and black decorative banner]

Valloroth taglist: @cherrybombfangirlwrites @reininginthefirewriting @memento-morri-writes @foxboyclit @lawful-evil-novelist

@at-thezenith @morganwriteblr @fayeiswriting @serenanymph @sam-glade

@viscerawrites @thegreatobsesso (ask to be +/-)

#writeblr #tag games #worldbuilding #worldbuilding in five #fantasy worldbuilding #valloroth blogging #look at all those words i've thrown at you! aren't they fun!#sorrow likes voi bc it has so much tangled social politics for him to get messy with #plus the access to magical items is very helpful #my inspiration for voi is like. 'roman empire. ancient china. warhammer 40k. but with dragons.' it's fun!#also i struggled with the alt text for these bc there's not a lot of identifying info in the unsplash sources #so if anyone has helpful details to add please lmk!

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marypsue · 8 months

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Yes 100%. My other pet peeve is when people claim expensive programs that would benefit society “pay for themselves” like no! On a dollar amount they won’t! But we should fund them anyway because making people happier+healthier? that’s worth spending money on

I mean, the research has been done, repeatedly, and it's my understanding that funding a lot of programs (like Universal Basic Income, or housing-first solutions, or preventative medicine) is actually less expensive in dollars, year over year, than paying for the social programs that prop up the current state of affairs...

...but that also doesn't mean that the current social programs shouldn't be funded, because they help people! Even if they don't solve the problem entirely!

If we can't make everything perfect in the future (we can't, because perfection doesn't exist), but we also can't make things less bad for people right now, then what are we even doing.

#chatter #i considered looking up links to sources for this but honestly i am supposed to be cleaning my bathroom #and the post this is responding to was mostly just an offhand vent post #so if you have links to sources please do provide them but I'm not going to be doing that research myself right now #bcause I will be cleaning my bathroom #(if you see me here on tumblr again for the next...let's say an hour please yell at me to go clean the bathroom)#eta: okay I cleaned the bathroom and also I added a sentence because. well. i *didn't* provide any sources here.

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alas--pringles · 9 months

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I'm so glad that the tumblr side of the fandom seems to be catching up on the Randy-specific brainrot I seem to have slowly fallen into lol. I assume most people got here from That One Spiritworld Clip or from That One Halloween Costume 🤣 Here's what I've found so far in case others haven't:

Bandcamp has 2 songs, neither of which are on spotify. One is kind of a joke from spring 2020 telling motherfuckers to wash their hands (read the description and credits it's hilarious), the other is a cover of Cherry by Harry Styles (idk the original but I love his cover)

He doesn't seem to have any other solo music (unless you count covers on instagram) but he does have a public playlist of his discography. ...He used to have a lot more public playlists like his girlfriend's discography as well but I guess they aren't there anymore?? That's new

The other example i've found of his singing is when Dan Andriano and the Bygones does live shows, sometimes they cover Burnin For You by Blue Oyster Cult and he takes lead vocals on that (and seems to need the lyrics printed out in front of him lol)

The Moore Family Band's about section on spotify. Also their instagram is where at least one of those Marilyn Monroe costume photos came from. (I could've sworn I saw the color one somewhere before it started going around but I can't find it.) Also his little sister is bi and these photos are adorable :D They also have a little interview with some songs interspersed.

Get Married's song Jeezy Beach is hilarious because it calls out Randy specifically. He doesn't want to go to the beach he wants to watch tv (and honestly? Mood. Sand sucks- Anakin was right- and NorCal beaches are always cold.) (it's also funny for anyone who's done the drive down to Santa Cruz. it's a terrible drive fuck that lol.)

#the band ghost #unmasked ghouls #randy moore #phantom ghoul #aeon ghoul #please appreciate all my hyperlinks with ACTUAL FUCKING SOURCES #jesus fucking christ this fandom is so bad at sources lol #idk how or why i looked but i read the sibling band's about the day after Concord #then a few days later saw him mention the discography playlist on twitter #i was looking for all the ghouls on bandcamp a month ago for bandcamp friday so that's how i found that #also i did not find the youtube videos someone else is better at finding those and sent me a private playlist #also the bassist for both Get Married and the Bygones is someone named Kayla #i found her social media but it's all private :/ she seems cool though #i have nothing to say about Spiritworld other than the instrumentals are cool but the vocals are not for me #like what they're supposed to sound like is not my thing #and they sound really bad in all the live videos i saw #not in a not my thing kinda way but in a holy shit is that guys voice ok??? that's not what that's supposed to sound like kinda way

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