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capricious-magician · 16 days

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Gilmore Girls has always been one of my go-to "put it on while I cook or need to feel nostalgic" shows. But I do get sad at how the more I watch it, the more annoyed I get at some scenes...

One of GG's most egregious sins has to be Jess' backstory// how crazy everyone is around him (also Lane's storyline but that's another post)

Sidenote: I love his self-publishing story and his moments with Luke for the record (do I wish he finished High school and stayed with Luke yeah but I get that they chose this path).

However... I cannot stand rewatching this show with how everyone acts towards him sometimes. I'm not trying to wipe away his flaws/transgressions in the plot but I want to rip out my hair when I see how these adults act.

Maybe it's the impact of martyrising Rory (and subsequently demonising any other child (-not her fault, the town is weird)) but it feel insane how he is treated.

Why does Lorelai come at Jess so hard? This is her friend's nephew who has moved across the country and obviously has issues, yet her choice is to be hostile?? I am 90% understanding with her protecting Rory later but this early scene... comes across as inappropriate.

Why are you fear-mongering a child? Why are you, a stranger, approaching him? Reprimanding him. Warning him to not mess up this good thing he's got going. Bro the amount of guilt Jess must have (especially with his mum?!). He's had to look after himself and be second best to Liz's boyfriends (who steal from and mistreat them). This kid has had no stability. When he needed help the most!! He gets abandoned (twice because remember - his dad). This feels twisted to me.

Also, Why is Jess painted as a bad guy for not supporting his mother's marriage? For yelling at Luke when he's clearly stress-reacting to Luke Danes (his adult carer) telling him they need to what... stop Liz from making another mistake.

I get Luke is guilted to sympathise/do Liz's bidding (he's too caring whatever). It's still wrong to see Jess' comfort being stepped on.

Why the fuck is Luke approaching Jess to tell him they need to look after Liz...I'm sorry... Jess has already spent all his time looking after her! Girl says she doesn't cook and has never had a stable job? So what was Jess' life like in NYC?

Lorelai yelling at Jess feels so disgusting in retrospect. Firstly, get a life, Lady 😭😭 Please,,, Secondly, this boy is being hounded to support Liz (who canonically does not care about him// her mistreatment of him)). I would maybe yell at Luke too? Maybe if you really cared... You'd help Luke calmly approach Jess and hear him out...

Lorelai had a bad childhood but she came from wealth. Jess did not have that! I cannot imagine how hard it must have been dealing with Liz's boyfriends (who again stole from them at one point??)) And have no parenting. He's not perfect kid but he could be better if the adults in his life did their jobs.

(Not that I'm suprised Lorelai doesn't bother though,,, she puts Rory on a pedestal and fixates how perfect she is... I'm not forgetting her weird comment about "having the good kid" when Paris and Rory were talking about sex))

Idk i'm yapping but Liz gets treated so nicely in this programme… Bro she never called her son… Or cared about him. I'd 100% be on board for Liz redemption. I don't think that her issues mean she is inherently bad. But her lack of remorse just kills me… Your son was hurting! He needed you. You threw him away. You expect him to be one of your 'guys' but he's not your support. You are supposed to support him. Does she even care that he publishes a book? Does she care that he works at Target? That he's so clever and could go to University but struggles with caring... he's so anti-social and it feels akin to the obsessive people pleasing that Rory has (the anxiety). It's not just a choice he's making; he's a child who needs support!

AAA... Anyway this was my post to archive my feelings on this matter... The adults in this show say some horrible stuff about the teens in this show. The talk about Paris (making fun of her), Dean (when everyone treats him as if he's the devil for *assumingly* breaking Rory's heart).

#jess mariano #gilmore girls #ranting #sorry for the rant #personal yapping

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roeyliteratiforever · 1 year

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do you ever think about how lonely jess must have felt when he first moved to stars hollow? to be trapped in that tiny snow globe of a town for his junior year where everyone’s already formed friendships and cliques and groups and his teachers teaching shit he either already knows and knows better than them or shit he doesn’t know and can never catch up with. to know in his heart that staying with luke isn’t an unconditional thing; that the minute he screws up, he’s gonna get kicked out. to have nothing to do all day every day and to know all the things he could be doing in new york. to have left behind friends a month after 9/11, where people have lost businesses and jobs and family members. to just want to be 18 already so he can get out and live independently and not have to be a burden on anyone. trying to find extra income in a town that completely mistrusts him. and by the way, i have no doubt in my mind that there were kids in that town who pulled shit worse than jess did and blamed it on him because jess is like that town’s boo radley. do you ever think about how alone jess is in stars hollow that he latches to the one person he finds a connection with? how lonely he must be to bet $90 just so he can have lunch with this girl who seems to be the only one in town to not have crucified him yet?

Hi Anon,

Awe this makes me so sad 😢 Yeah I do think about how Jess must have felt living in Stars hollow from time to time, and how Rory was the only one he felt safe, and comfortable around in that town that he definitely did latch onto that. The fact that she would go out of her way defending him to her mom ensuring that he is a good person and not who they think he is. Omg yes he did just want so badly to be 18 and independent so he could depend on himself he was scared to have anyone depend on him mostly because he has never had anyone to depend on. Him growing up in a neglectful childhood at best and his condition for staying with Luke if he did slip up he might get kicked out. I do think about these things, and it rips my stomach apart especially the way Lorelai treated him. Like I love Lorelai but sometimes come on he was just a kid. She would use the he was just a kid excuse for Dean all the time, but with Jess it was no he's unforgivable! It's maddening to me really. I also think about how if Jess went to Chilton with Rory would he have done better in school because it would challenge him more because intellectually he was more on that level. (Now I'm thinking of Distilla Truent and I want to go re-read it!) There probably were kids in the town who pulled stuff like that around school and blamed Jess. I am forever wishing Asp had given Jess real friendships and Jess had joined Rory's friend groups and became friends with Lane, Dave, and Paris! Rambles about this forever!

#jess mariano #gilmore girls #rory gilmore #literati #jess and rory #rory and jess #jess x rory #team jess #rory x jess

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randomestfandoms-ocs · 3 years

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How did Kristy react to her grandfather’s heart attack?

oh boy time to unpack my childhood trauma let’s go (thank you for sending this I’m having a very cathartic breakdown rn 💖💖)

tw for medical content, some trauma, and almost losing a loved one

So, Kirsty has finished school by now and is living in New York full time, but she and Jess came up for Luke’s custody battle (they both speak on his behalf, and Rory writes a letter — and none of them actually told Luke so he was very shook) and decided to hang around because Kirsty had another week before rehearsals and they decided to hang out with Rory and Tristan! Logan had to stay in New York for work though, so they’re staying at Tristan’s apartment!

Anyways, Kirsty decided to go to Richard’s first lecture with Rory! She wasn’t in his class the semester before, and Richard is of course very excited to have both of his granddaughters there! Tristan is also in the class, so the three of them are sitting together while Jess hangs out at the apartment and writes!

The downside to this is that it means that Kirsty is there when Richard has the heart attack, and is obviously like, very completely distraught at the whole thing. Tristan calls an ambulance and tries to comfort both girls while they wait, he also calls Jess who meets them in the classroom. The ambulance arrives and Rory and Kirsty ride with Richard, while Jess and Tristan drive after them so they’ll have a car. Jess also calls Luke, and then Logan, and the entire time that Babette is telling him about it, his phone is ringing off the hook, and when the conversation ends and he finally picks up the phone it’s Jess.

So both Kirsty and Rory are like very not okay, obviously, and when Lorelai walks in, it’s the first time that they’ve seen each other since Lorelai told the girls about sleeping with Christopher, which as a side note was 13 episodes and about seven months ago, and the first time they’ve talked at all since Lorelai told her about the marriage.

Lorelai sees Kirsty and freezes, but Kirsty just immediately runs over and hugs her, and very quietly/half sobbing goes “mom” and then Lorelai is crying too and then Rory joins the group hug.

and then Emily gets there and there’s more crying and hugging, and then Logan gets there and that’s emotional too and then Luke gets there and anyways yeah it’s a lot of emotions and a lot of crying

and then they get to see Richard and it’s even more emotional and Tristan and Jess offer to go with Luke to get Richard’s car so that way they can drive the truck back, Logan still goes with Rory to deal with paying the fish guy because he’s just like “nope you shouldn’t be driving right now” and they’re still best friends, and Kirsty stays at the hospital with Emily and Lorelai and it’s difficult because once the panic is subsiding a bit the tension between Lorelai and Kirsty comes back, and Kirsty is getting very pissed about Christopher ignoring Lorelai’s calls but she also doesn’t want him to show up

A slight change from canon but when Christopher finally shows up at the hospital, it’s after Luke has gone over all the food he brought back and talked to Lorelai and as he’s coming down the hall he sees Kirsty hugging Luke (and Lorelai smiling very fondly as she watches) and pulling Rory in and Luke doing his usual “oh geez” but hugging them both back really tightly.

As soon as she notices Christopher, Kirsty pulls away, thanks Luke for coming and tells him she loves him, and then quickly retreats with the boys, completely ignoring Christopher’s attempts at talking to her. When Christopher and Rory are going down to visit Richard, Rory asks Kirsty if she wants to come with, and Kirsty says that she’s actually going to go for a walk to clear her head, and to call her once Christopher is gone, which only serves to piss Christopher off even more — he and Lorelai have a minor argument that basically boils down to “are you really going to let her act like this” and Lorelai basically saying “she just saw her grandfather have a heart attack a few hours ago this is not the time for this”

Afterwards she visits every day with Rory and Lorelai and Emily until Richard goes home, at which point she has to return to New York

#ask #answered #squirrelstone #kirsty gilmore #about kirsty

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reputayswift · 4 years

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I was tagged by @lorelaigilmo!! ily Maayan!!!

Rules:

Choose any three fandoms and answer the questions, then tag some friends!

I choose:

Gilmore girls

Avatar: The Last Airbender

One Tree Hill

The first character you loved:

Love loved, Jess, but I remember being super into Lorelai x Luke before he showed up!

On my rewatch probably Aang cause he’s baby from ep 1 but Toph’s introduction was one of only two scenes I remembered from watching it as a kid so I guess that says something!

Jake Jagielski

The character you never expected to love so much:

Probably Paris, her development from semi-stereotypical mean girl to loyal frenemy is SO GOOD!! That being said I also didn’t expect to still be talking about Jess 5 years after watching but here we are

SUKI!!! Also as @julesblackthorns friend I am legally obligated to say Mai <3 OH also Sokka...I think I just love them all

Jake Jagielski...name a more iconic duo than me and my attachment to characters with limited screen-time <3

The character you relate to the most:

Rory! I used to specify “Early Seasons Rory” but considering I’m also sitting in my childhood bedroom with no plans for life after uni I think I can just say “Rory” now 🥴

I’ve thought about this a lot and I really don’t think there’s one specific character! Maybe if you took Sokka’s puns and mixed it with Aang’s excessive politeness and desire for everyone to Just Get Along...

Haley! Maybe with a little of Peyton’s creativity

The character you’d slap:

(omg this one stresses me out)

There’s no real villains in GG everyone is at least a little bit likable...that being said I’d fight Dean in the Doose’s parking lot 💖

Ozai’s 5′8″ I can take him.

Lucas...🤫 (I’m sorry all his cheating plot lines were just so tiring...)

Three favorite characters (in order of preference):

Jess, Lorelai, Luke (Rory ily2 I promise...also honorable mention to Kirk and Dave 💖)

This is too stressful...I love them all genuinely

Jake, Brooke, Haley?? Maybe...I’d have to rewatch

A character you liked at first but don’t anymore:

None!

Lucas, he was my favorite Scott brother for the first few eps...naivety

A character you did not like at first but now do:

Paris! An obvious one

None!

Brooke!

Three OTPs:

Jess x Rory, Luke x Lorelai, Dave x Lane (THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ENDGAME >:/)

Suki x Sokka, all the rest I just really love the friend dynamics!!! Literally every combination of characters brings out a new level of stupidity <3

Jake x Peyton, Haley x Nathan, Bevin x Skills (lol)

I tag @julesblackthorns @sanssa @rorylgilmore

#ask #asks #useless rambles with tay #long post #sorry some of these are mean :'))

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myfandomrambles · 5 years

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Jess Mariano Character Analysis (Expanded)

Facts:

Abandoned by his father as an infant

Grew up with a neglectful mother

His mother dealt with minor alcohol dependency throughout his childhood

mother dated “losers, “deadbeats” giving an unstable childhood.

Seemingly smoked from a youngish age, and found taking beer as minor normal behaviour for him

Was sent to live with an uncle he had little of a relationship with

was continuously hated by the town

formed a bond with Rory and became very attached

Struggles in school while understanding most of the material.

Sticks to solitary behaviours

Has very limited social interaction. Only seeming to form connections with few people.

Mother goes through periods of radio silence.

Finds he would rather be in stars hollow than his original home (NYC)

Breaks taboos and rules often.

Runs away when faced when he fails high school and fights with his uncle

Searches for belonging with his biological father

Was willing to come to celebrate his mother’s marriage, even when he was wary of her husband and didn’t have a trusting relationship with his mother.

finds himself through creating and working within the art scene

Analysis:

Jess is a character who simultaneously is presented as a cliche Bad Boy, and love interest in many ways, but is also a character who breaks the dichotomy of Lorelai’s world vs Emily’s world, he isn’t either of these worlds which makes him a standout character even if he isn’t a lead for the majority of the show. But in a thematic and plot way, he is seamless in the story. His plot is reminiscent of many of the full-time leads, and struggles with many of the same problems of our leads but coming from a different background and world.

When the show starts Jess is already jaded and grown in ways he shouldn't be yet. He's experienced a lot of material and emotional hardships with no one even attempting to help him understand. He's casual about drinking, smoking, sex, and having to support himself. But he isn't exactly mature, he does all these things without being able to process them or react to new stress well. He is still a teen who feels he has nothing. I think he experiences something a lot of kids who experience unstable childhoods do simultaneously having to be older than you are, but not getting there in a way that allows it to be true maturity. Often struggling once you are a real adult to having the context to work with what you know.

His relationship with Rory is one that is s central point in both of their narratives. It’s sweet and cute at a lot of times, romantic in the way only happens with people who aren’t yet adults tragic in how it ends. Their relationship was also kind of cursed from the start having formed while Rory was still in love with someone else. The relationship also is plagued with problems in the form of neither of them knowing how to communicate. Jess is working through everything from his childhood, and Rory has a warped vision of relationships she can’t push through. Jess is also overly attached to Rory because he’s the only person she even likes, and the only person who shows open affection for him. The first end to the story is a kind bittersweet tragedy, it’s ar a crossroads point in time for both of them. It’s done beautifully with Jess knows this is goodbye and Rory I think kind know too, she’s not surprised he cut and run, though she is of course hurt.

After he runs away he stays in love with her but doesn’t ever properly communicate. He is still used to cutting and running, and Rory is tired of being the one left behind. This is exemplified in the scenes where he admits he loves her but neither of them knows what to do with it, then when he asks her to run away with him she can’t trust him. Then at the bookstore, we notice he still loves her, but she doesn’t love him. This clearly hurts jess, but by that point, he has a life to fall back on. But their relationship did change them for the better Jess references her being the only one who really believed in him, and He pushes Rory back into college. His reality check helps remind Rory that she isn’t only a Gilmore like her grandparents but also a Gilmore like her mother. Reminds her of her dreams and talent. He pushes her to try and not let Emily mould her into what she wants her to be. In A Year In The Life, we see him again help Rory find her way, his ability to be a foil to her erratic way of viewing the world is even stronger here as he has been in a stable life for a while, and he still cares for her quite a bit.

Jess’s relationship with Luke is the second most pivotal during the story. It’s an extremely dysfunctional relationship. This comes from Jess never having had a real parent figure he can’t accept Luke’s attempts to support him. Luke has never been a father before and having stunted emotional communication make it hard for him to articulate his thoughts. He can only show his care through actions. Buying him nicotine patches, building him a room, bringing him back from new york and trying to get him to stay in school. Another factor in the struggles they have is Luke is equally connected to Lorelai & Rory. He considers Rory his responsibility as much as Jess, even taking “her side” after the car accident. Their relationship does form into a deeper connection after Jess starts to find his way and appreciate what his uncle meant to do. When Luke visits him at his job and then when Jess visits in AYITL we see that they are able to truly connect as they both learn to work on their struggles. We also see through that Jess still has his characteristic slightly cynical view on the world easily assuming Lorelai is leaving Luke instead of trying to have Luke just ask her what's wrong. Though he does still come to visit him before the wedding showing he does support Luke and Lorelai's wedding even if he and Lorelai were never best friends.

As for his mother Liz, by the point, he enters the show she has sent him away instead of dealing with his mental health and behavioural issues. He even only calls her by her first name and doesn’t really try and repair the relationship even when he comes for her wedding, it’s clearly based around Luke wanting him there. Then even after he comes from her wedding she never tries to involve him in the future up to him never meeting his half-sister Dula. She is clearly a neglectful mother, not out of any kind of malice but by never being able to put him before her own whims. She dated around, married multiple people they all describe as loser and deadbeats, not getting to know jess as a person and struggling with implied alcohol addiction (ex: she has only ever been sober for one wedding). This affects him greatly and a large part of his character is learning what to do with this. In AYITL Jess explains he has to go help his mother and sister after they joined a cult, within the narrative, it comes across as mostly an explanation for Jess leaving and where the other characters are. However this raises a question of how much connection Jess has to his mother and sister at this point, and it shows he might have taken up Luke's role of bailing Liz out now that he's an adult.

Lorelai and Jess are generally antagonistic most of the time, though she does work to apologise when Rory is in love with them. Their visceral reactions based on their similarities not based on differences. Neither of them grew up in a loving household, neglect and poverty in Jess’s case and psychological and emotional abuse for Lorelai. Jess is a lot like a young Lorelai trying to do anything to rebel from the status quo, he acts as a mirror to her past mistakes and some of her personal issues. Jess dislikes her she’s just another judgmental adult, she actually does understand what he’s going for trying to connect with a teen like that doesn’t work right off the bat, they have to see it. She isn’t actually thrown off by him being rude that isn’t her problem, she only really gets defensive when he attacks her relationships and motives. Then he worries he might hurt her daughter and friend also.

I do think Jess is being a jerk in their conversation in Nick & Nora/Sid & Nancy with her because he didn’t want to be there. But I don’t read him assuming she is sleeping with luke is just wanting to be a jerk, I think that was honestly what he assumes. In Jess’s eyes that would be bad and the only reasons, someone would view another person as that good. People dating and marrying his mother was destabilizing form as a kid I think in his mind if Lorelai was that to Luke it would just follow the pattern.

He is averse to Stars Hollow style of life, but he also seems to want the security of that lifestyle. Even choosing to come back after returning to New York for a period of time. He wants to be close to Rory again hoping she would choose him, and he is going back to the only stability he’s ever had.

The rest of the town generally hates him because he pushes back on many of the assumptions they have with life. He doesn’t want to be part of the town and doesn’t believe in the small town interconnection. Jess doesn’t believe that the way stars hollow is a family is worth people being nosy or wanting him to be someone he isn’t. None of the town regulars cares about him, takes his motivations into account, or listens to Rory or Luke when they say he isn’t the worst bad guy. Dean and he are rivals for Rory’s affection, Jess usually pissing Dean off in the process.

The only other person who likes him at all is his girlfriend Shane, but their relationship is shallow and I think they both knew that. Jess dates her I think because he came back to Stars Hollow to not be alone, he assumed Rory wanted him as well. But Rory is gone for the whole summer cutting him off, so he hangs out with someone who will pay him attention. They also do a lot of PDA and possibly go further it's not clear again I think it's some form of connection that doesn't include his emotions. Shane doesn't really seem all that upset that there is definitely an aspect of their relationship that is showing off for Rory. She doesn't like it, but i don't think she's as hurt as she could be becuase i don't think she loved jess also seeing it as just some fun. This relationship also doesn't make him anymore liked in town, or give him a connection to Stars Hollow.

Jess seems to simultaneously be bored in school but also struggles to view himself as adequate. He has no drive to finish school and cuts and runs instead of facing fallout, being pushed over the edge when he feels like Luke is angry with him too. He doesn’t ever flex the intelligence he has or skills with writing till the end. This is stated to be because of boredom and wanting money, I also think that he probably missed things in school. People who have unstable childhoods often miss multiple days in school, struggle to focus while in school, and may find it to feel impractical with so much else going on. Even if someone could understand and excel when given the information you can miss lessons that are hard to make up. As you get older there become things teachers assume you know, particularly in math, science and foreign language courses.

His lack of self-esteem often makes him rejects attention while also seeming to really want healthy connections. Or he experiences an obsessive connection as he does with Rory. This also plays into not always paying attention to what he needs and not believing he can be more than other people assume he is.

Jess acts out from wanting to express his anger which is then fed by the town anger and rejection of his presence. He does stupid stunts and fights with the people he loves. It’s a think a way to express anger and somewhat to get attention (usually Rory’s or Luke’s) he does want someone to care but doesn’t know.

Jess makes mistakes that hurt Luke And Rory. With Rory, some top examples are stealing her bracelet, not communicating with her and leaving without ever talking to her. With Luke, the mistake is mostly mutual neither of them know how to show or accept affection from the other. Jess usually resorting to trying to piss off his uncle and Luke not figuring out how to deal with issues before he reaches a breaking point. These problems are greatly connected to his trauma but are still things he should have tried to work on.

Jess is a character who I find is either demonized or over-romanticized. I think what both of these reads mistakenly view him as only a romance character, basing almost their entire read of him through a high school romance or Nicholas Sparks book lens. The reason Jess works in this story aren’t those influences they are present but why he works is he a different view on the main themes of the story.

It’s undeniable that Gilmore Girls is a story about family/generations, culture differences, and dealing with broken family relationships. Jess is driven by these themes as much as Rory or Lorelai. The family/generations theme isn’t as in your face with Liz and jess not sharing much screen time, but it’s still there, it acts mostly as prologue but it’s still the inciting event in his arc. His story with luke is also based on family, a found family arc to some extent. Then with broken relationships again his story is based on dealing with the fallout of his abusive and neglectful childhood, he isn’t managing broken relationships like most of the others but managing the way it changed him. Jess is an arc of someone having to overcome this, and it causes him to crash many times. Lastly, the culture clash is still important, You have the blue blood yale culture, the small town of middle-class Americana, and then Jess is a person who lives in shit in a dirty city. I think those themes are the crux of why jess works, his character is another view on the themes and motifs the story is built on, like with the others those motivations drive his relationship with Rory.

Jess is a character who only was major in two seasons but manages to be one of the most loved people on the show. He’s a character that if you watched it as a kid/teen you probably crushed on a little bit. He’s controversial but relatable to people who have similar backstories and his level of disillusionment with life plays well on the rose-coloured manic world Rory and Lorelai inhabit.

There is also such a skilful ability that even with it being slightly scattered his growth in the later seasons is believable, at each stage we see how he was able to internalize what he learned during his main arch and work it into his natural art and survival instincts. I wish we had seen more of it, but it is also one of the most hopeful and real stories on the show.

ADHD:

Inattentiveness

hyper fixations

Hyperfocus

Misunderstanding social input

Stimulus seeking

RSD

Hyperstimulate

Inability to focus in school

Works better in environments of action or art

Impulsive behaviour

Irritability

AVPD:

Struggles with maintaining relationships

avoids face to face interactions

negative self-perceptions

A safe person with Rory (ie: I don’t like anyone else)

Hides his feelings

avoids participating in group activities

heads off rejection by leaving or ignoring the problem

Avoids situations of both praise and rejection

Don’t believe he can succeed for much of the show

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deschanelswifts · 7 years

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I'm loving the GG positivity lately, so let's keep it going :) Name your three favorite qualities about each of these characters: Lorelai, Rory, Emily, Richard, Luke, Paris, Jess, Logan, Sookie, Lane, Michel. I like you too much to force you to come up with three favorite things about Liz, TJ, or Anna!

This is so fun!!!! I love seeing all the GG positivity too. Thanks for the message, this makes me happy :) ok here we go!!

3 favorite things about:Lorelai -1. she loves with all she’s got/how she loves luke with all she’s got2. but she’s also independent as heck3. coffee addict!!! aka me!!

Rory - 1. she’s a dreamer2. loves to learn (when i don’t want to study or school has me burnt out i literally ask myself what would rory gilmore do???)3. super protective of the ones she loves (ex. being mad at emily for breaking luke and lorelai up, telling her dad to stay away bc she didn’t want him ruining lorelai’s life for the umpteenth time, etc.)

Luke - 1. the most reliable human on this earth2. his love for lorelai (and rory) wtf it’s so beautiful3. strives to be the best version of himself (can we talk about the character progression in the revival wowza)

Emily - 1. how much she loves richard2. she’s actually freakin hilarious (BULLSHIT)3. like rory, she is fiercely protective of the ones she loves (even if that causes issues)

Richard - 1. HOW MUCH HE ADORES RORY 2. how much he loves emily3. how he secretly can be a pushover for lorelai (ex. when he lets her climb out of the window to get out of emily’s dull dinner with that annoying guy)

Jess -1. his SARCASM i love it so much2. he pushes himself to be better (and also pushes rory!!!)3. his strength

Paris - 1. her bluntness and honesty, because paris wouldn’t be paris without it2. she loves a challenge (ex. telling rory she needs her because she’s her only real competition)3. she’s just so relatable

Logan - 1. lives life to the fullest2. ballsy (like when he goes to lorelai to win rory back knowing full well that lorelai is not a fan of him at all!!!!!!!)3. he’s such a gentleman honestly (i swoon when he pays for rory’s coffee, it’s the little things ok)

Sookie - 1. she takes pride in her work2. she is an amazing best friend and always told lorelai what she needed to hear, not what she wanted to hear3. was the first LL shipper and for that i’ll always have a deep appreciation

Lane - 1. rocks to the beat of her own drum!!!!2. respects her mother so much that she lived a life full of secrets her entire childhood bc she knew it would actually crush her mom 3. literally the best friend ever, she was always so excited about things in rory’s life (like when rory told her she had sex that is one of my favorite lane scenes ever)

Michel - 1. how much he loves his dogs 2. he is so loyal to lorelai3. his attitude is how i wish i could act everyday tbh

#ask #rogangilmore #gilmore girls

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javajunkiedaily · 7 years

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ok so i just realized that during the revival hype lauren mentioned that she has to wear a costume for one of the final scenes and we were all like OMG WEDDING DRESSS but like that didn't happen and i know there were last minute budget cuts that changed everything but like we were so close and im bitter ok thx

We feel you, we honestly do! We complained about that fact a thousand times to each other, over and over again. We never get tired of picking on the things we didn’t like or we could have had. The whole fandom is probably with you on this. We wish we never knew about the dresses and the possibility to have the wedding of all weddings and not the cheap, yet beautiful elopement, where so many important people were missing.

It’s OK to be bitter, there were a lot of hopes and expectations for the revival and the wedding, especially when they teased us like this. But let’s canalize all this bitterness and let us come up with what the real wedding would have looked like.

What we know for sure: (x) and (x)

The ceremony/reception will be on November 5 in the middle of the town. (Even though Lorelai mentions it will be on a Sunday, which would be November 6…)

Lorelai will wear more than one wedding dress. One will be inspired by Jackie O and other famous wedding styles. (To our mind comes Diana, right?) Miss Celine is the one making the dresses, but Lorelai will probably help her because Miss Celine is like a thousand years old.

Luke will wear that suit that he looks as hot as Rande Gerber. He will even wear the pocket square - Jess will make sure he does!

The decoration is inspired by Alice in Wonderland. You enter the location through a door with a huge key, walking through a tunnel of white clothes before you see the whole town square decorated with all these beautiful flowers, twinkle lights all over the place. Then there’s the tunnel with the heads,. A car works as a decoration, the Stars Hollow sign is serving as a cute little welcome sign and reminder of the wedding. The couches and stools next to the gazebo invite the guest to chill and talk. While at the richly decorated table the hot dogs can be eaten.

All of Stars Hollow will be present, even Caesar will be allowed to come.

Emily will come all the way from Nantucket to the wedding, probably still not believing that Lorelai will actually get married, even though Lorelai had assured her. However, Lorelai had persuaded her, in the end, to invite her friends, after all, they were on the guest list.

Kiefer Sutherland might show up, we don’t know if he will make it. One thing is for sure it will be the biggest mystery of the wedding and a running gag.

Reverend Skinner will officiate the second ceremony as well.

Rory is the bridesmaid, and she will be excellent at it.

There will be two flash-mobs. Lorelai’s will be to “Relax don’t do it” with Patty’s girls, who wear t-shirts with Luke’s face on it. It will get crazy, cheesy, and Luke will want to leave the reception as soon as the song starts playing.

Luke’s flash mob will be a disaster with the song change Lorelai had ordered last minute. (Either Luke will get so flustered that he won’t know what do anymore, or he will suck it up and just go through with whatever choreography had worked so hard on. Either way, Lorelai will be super proud of him.)

Both the flash mobs will successfully entertain the guests and nothing else matters.

Sookie is in charge of the wedding cake. The milestone cake will be the official wedding cake, but maybe Sookie made a different one after all - you never know with her. They will get displayed on a table somewhere, maybe even in the gazebo. There will be a lot of leftover cake and Lorelai will eat it for weeks after.

Kirk is in charge of all the organizing of the wedding, and his skills in that department have improved a lot: An incident like the egg incident a decade ago won’t happen this time around, partly because there won’t be an easter-egg-hunt.

What we can assume (headcanon-time!):

Even though April never gets mentioned she’ll be there to see her father getting married. Finally, she will be able to cal Lorelai her step-mother and Rory her step-sister. It’s the beginning of the Gilmore-Danes-Nardini-fam, which we all grew to love so much.

Lorelai won’t be able to hold back the tears when she realizes that her father can’t be there to witness her big day. There will a heartfelt exchange between Emily and Lorelai, which hopefully won’t be interrupted by any of the townies.

Either Emily and/or Rory will walk Lorelai down the aisle and will give her away to Luke. There won’t be any threatening words, but Emily’s look will tell Luke she will hunt him down if he ever dares to hurt her daughter.

Speeches will be held. Rory is giving probably the most heartfelt one, making everyone sob like a baby (like she did when she gave the speech at her high school graduation). Liz’s speech will be a wild one, filled with all these creepy, yet somehow adorable childhood memories. She loves her big brother dearly.

The dance floor gets probably entertained by Kirk as a DJ and/or Hep Alien will play live. There will be dancing all day and night long. Morey and Babette will be the last ones to leave the dance floor. Morey will moreover play some music himself because it’s a special occasion, he will melt Babette’s heart with that. However, Babette and Miss Patty have prepared some songs themselves to declare their love for their dream couple.

Either there won’t be a father-daughter-dance at all, or Emily will dance with Lorelai. Luke will ask April to dance, and halfway through the song, he will ask Rory to dance with him. Rory is a little bit his and he steps up to all the step-father duties.

Lorelai and Luke will dance to “Reflecting Light” again. Liz and TJ will get emotional since it was their first dance as husband and wife too.

Jess acts as the best man for Luke, taking care of him and giving him the support he needs.

Paul-Anka and Petal will have some kind of role in the wedding, maybe bearing the rings, or ruining a nice or emotional moment. Paul-Anka will wear a big white bow on his back, and so does Petal.

Doula would have the right age to act as a flower girl, so has Martha. Davey might be the ring bearer after all, or Lane’s twins. All the kids have some special role and will be involved in the wedding.

Babette and Miss Patty will sit in the first row at the ceremony, sobbing like little girls when Lorelai and Luke exchange their vows. They will hug them so tightly, that Luke thinks he might not be able to breathe ever again. And then he will get the shock of his life when Babette and Patty will finally pinch his butt. Lorelai will shrug her shoulders and smile at him.

Liz and TJ will entertain half the wedding party with their stories of the vegetable cult they were in for about half a year. But they will avoid any explanation for all the couches they have at the new home. (Maybe they are in a couch cult now?)

Luke knows Cousin Billy, he totally forgot about him and he is embarrassed to admit that to Lorelai. She will find out much later.

It will scare the crap out of Luke when he sees Paris at his wedding. Lorelai was like a mother to her and therefore she could not miss the wedding.

Even though it is Luke’s wedding day, Taylor will find a reason to annoy him. It will probably have something to do with some rules and the town’s regulations.

Kirk will get tangled up in the white clothes and will need to be rescued from it.

Later, Kirk will get into a fight with Lulu because he doesn’t have enough time to dance with her. He has to make sure everything goes according to Lorelai’s plan and that leaves no time for dancing or some crazy times on the couch.

Michel will come to the wedding with his husband. It will be their last big event before their kid gets “delivered”. Frederic will drive everyone crazy with his special orders for the food, everything needs to be served on separate plates.

The 30-something-gang will work as waiters at the wedding, they don’t have anything else to do and they can put another waiter job on their résumé. The parents of the 30-something-gang will be forever grateful for that.

Crazy Carrie will forever be bitter that A) she isn’t invited to the party and B) Luke is off the market for good now. She will hold onto the rumor she made out with him under the bleachers though.

Mrs. Kim will ask Lorelai if her new choir can perform at the wedding, and since Lorelai still is a little scared of her she agrees on it, but she cringes the entire time the choir performs.

Moreover, Mrs. Kim will give her some useful antique as a present, telling her who that item has belonged to some time and why he or she was important to the country’s history.

Mr. Kim won’t be able to make it to the wedding because he will be off on a business trip again.

The guests will demand countless times of Lorelai and Luke to kiss by clinking their glasses. Lorelai enjoys that very much and is happy that Luke is for once comfortable with that kind of public display of affection.

There will be some of Patty’s founder’s day punch, and Emily will try it out and get a little tipsy. Miss Patty and she will bond over it and laugh just as much as at her bachelorette party all these years ago.

Emily will be just as smitten with Gypsy as she was when she first met her at the same party she bonded with Miss Patty. When she’s tipsy, she will confess to her that she reminds her of her maid Berta. Gypsy will think Emily is crazy because Emily won’t have a picture to prove it to her. In the end, Gypsy will be very thankful when Lorelai rescues her from Emily, telling her mother the cab she asked for had arrived.

Kirk will be the last one to be at the reception because as the organizer he’s also in charge of the clean-up.

Lorelai and Luke will spend their first night as husband and wife at home, having the house completely to themselves. Lorelai will want to discuss everything that has happened and Luke will actually have to talk her into sleeping with him.

You’re welcome to add all of your headcanons! The more the better - we can come up with all the subplots for the “shebang” AS-P intended to have.

#luke x lorelai #lorelai gilmore #luke danes #gilmore girls #anon #asks #revival #fall #you can't imagine how much fun tina and i had with this ask #text #user: anja #hc

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Gilmore Girls, Season Three: Eps. 1 & 2

Okay, been a while. Been job hunting and every application I filled out seemed to have a follow up come in over the course of a few days. Two scams, two rejections and seven telling me to fill out more stuff and be on the look out for another set of follow ups. Got a little overwhelmed and had to spend some of my free time ( not filling out applications) watching Russell Howard stand-ups and listening to Christopher Moore novels. Comfort food. Gilmore Girls might end up in my "Calm Your Ass Down" stash along with The Princess Bride, Fututama, Jenny Lawson books, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bowling for Soup, and various other books, movies, shows, and music that seem to have the ablity to make my brain stop chasing its tail. But I have to finish it first.

Episode 1 - I usually try to pick a character, start at the beginning of their plot for the episode. That isn't going to work this time because once this episode was over, I was left with two questions:

1. Why is everyone in this show so obsessed with marriage?

2. Why is Lorelai getting the blame, yet again?

Why do Christopher and Richard think that to be a father you have to be married to the mother? I know I haven't gotten the whole story yet but so far I have never gotten the impression that Lorelai ever discouraged Christopher from being a dad to Rory. From what I gathered, it was his choice to be minimally involved for much of her childhood. Someone can be a parent while not being married. I mean, shit, most of the kids I grew up with had parents who weren't together and most of them had relationships with both their mom and dad. You know the whole "I'm at my Dad's this weekend" thing. Hell, that's how I met one of the women I'm still friends with. I lived next door to her dad and she, along with her brothers, would stay with him every other weekend.

Richard was, again, way off base. She didn't deprive Christopher of being a father to Rory because she didn't marry him. All she did was prevent Rory from having an unhappy childhood by not having her grow up with parents who were forced into a marriage. Christopher could have been a dad to Rory any time he chose, he didn't.

By the same token, Sherry being pregnant isn't a reason to get married, especially if the relationship was on rocky ground. Again, Christopher can be a father without getting into a unhappy union.

If he wants to be with Lorelai if Lorelai would be willing to be with him while he is also there for his new child, that is possible (though after the next episode, I'm not sure Lorelai would have wanted to try that). I mean, you don't have to be married to a person to support them through a pregnancy. People who adopt can form a relationship with the birth mother. Sherry and Chrstopher could have worked out a friendship. Maybe he and Lorelai cool it until after the baby is born, maybe they just date. Sherry could date whoever she wanted at this time. Then they figure out how the parenting thing will work. Is it more complicated? Yeah, but, in my opinion, it's better than being unhappy because you married someone you didn't love. Why raise a kid in an environment like that? Seperate and happy parents are better role models than together and miserable parents, in my view.

Also Richard and Emily arguing in front of Lorelai while also trashing her when she is clearly upset... Well, I have to say that Richard is making Emily look better and better lately.

I really loved Lorelai and Luke's make up. I like that even when patching up a snit she feels comfortable talking about her feelings with him. I like the fact that in addition to being so clearly, yet obliviously in love, they make good friends to each other.

Speaking of Lorelai being in love with Luke. That dream? Adorable!

And now we have the start of what I'm going to call "The Rebranding of Dean"

This happens sometimes on shows when a character is, by all evidence shown to the audience, an asshole. However, the writers not wanting to face up to the fact that they have spent years crafting a character the audience wants to shoot out of a cannon, have other characters insist that they are great in the hopes that the audience will forget that they're a twatwaffle.

Rory has feelings for Jess, but she's still with Dean. This is wrong, she should absolutely cut him loose. But Lorelai sings Deans praises, yet again.

Does Lorelai want to adopt Dean? There are times she seems to like him more than she does Rory!

She says he's been caring and patient. I'll give you caring, in a helicopter type of way, but patient??

When was he patient? When he flipped out over a picknick basket? When he sulked about Rory wanting a night alone? When he called her a dozen times while she was at school? When he was jealous over a school play?

Oh I know when he showed epic patience! When he dumped her because she didn't say I love you when he wanted her to! Of course! So patient, he should be a kindergarten teacher, I tell you!

Arrrg!

Anyway. The best part of the episode, for me was Sookie trying to change things around the house for Jackson. I love it because Sookie reminds me of the anxiety voice in my head. I have said that my brain can take a minor inconvience from annoying to death in 3.2 seconds. Catastrophic thinking is one of my superpowers, and one that I would absolutely take the X-men cure for.

It is very much like Sookie going from flowers to resentment to an unhappy marriage and no matter what anyone says, that possibly is real. I just want to give her tea and tell her that that goblin in her brain is just loud, not right and that any impulse that tells you to buy a giant bear for your husband is one that is fucking with you and should be ignored.

Episode 2 - Usually I find the Chilton stuff somewhat interesting... Not this time. The whole "Skirt Gate" thing was just dull. So, I'm going to skip it.

Kirk asking Lorelai out was hilarious as was Emily trying to keep a maid. And that levility was needed as the real showcase of the episode, the showdown between Christopher, Lorelai and Rory.

While I agree with Emily that Christopher shouldn't marry Sherry just because she's knocked up, but she really shouldn't have stuck her nose in.

I *loved* the moment when Rory told Christopher off. Rory is right she always understands. She absolutely has the right to not be understanding and let emotion rule. She's 17, she's still a kid in so many ways. Her dad made a promise and he broke it. She has the right to be hurt and angry.

What exactly was Christopher trying to accomplish? He says he's still marrying Sherry but doesn't want things to end with Lorelai? So he wants her to be his mistress? Wants her and Rory to be his "secret family"? What a tool!

Pretty good start to the season considering it starts tying up the loose ends that were left dangling in that mess of a season finale.

#gilmore girls #rambles

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Rory Gilmore Character Analysis (Expanded)

Facts

raised by a single mom

basically abandoned by her father

grew up in a small town who adore her. Functionally like an extended family

huge reader

Family financially struggled when she was little

highly devoted to education

Goal oriented when she is young

Wants to be a journalist and travel

Highly obsessed with media of all kinds, a shared interest with her mother

Somewhat of a wallflower as a teen

attended an elite preparatory school for last three years of high school

Tends to do whatever is asked of her, most common with her grandparents going against her upbringing and mothers lifestyle

deeply competitive with her main Rival in school (Paris)

Excellent in academic settings

Displays a willingness to be in unhealthy relationships with her BF’s

Believes in a strict pattern in her life and rejects changes

Has visceral reactions to rejection, like with Mitchum

Learned to fit in well with an elite culture

Struggled in her work

Analysis:

Rory overall was a combination of natural gifts, communication issues, commitment, perfectionism, and a girl who faced very little criticism.

Rory’s relationship with her mother Lorelai is the deepest defining connection. Her taste in media and food come from her mom, as well as her struggles to form competent romantic connections. Lorelai instilled an independent identity as well as a fun-loving idea and a love of laughter. Lorelai also shaped Rory by acting as much of a friend as a parental figure, part of this was having trouble ever telling Rory “no”, or that anything she did was wrong. Rory was to some extent a parentified child. She helped run a lot of the boring but important parts of living and was the main emotional support for her mother. Lorelai and Rory also had a relationship that lacked normal boundaries between parent and child. Lorelai did love and support Rory. Lorelai would do everything she could for Rory and worked her ass off to give Rory everything she could to be happy and successful. Rory did know that, and it was important in her best characteristics.

Rory grew up with a very strong extended family in the form of stars hollow. Mia was a grandmother figure more than Emily when Rory was very young. Sookie acted as an aunt figure to Rory often, was at all the parties, baked the birthday cakes etc. Lane was her very close friend throughout her childhood. Lane appreciated Rory and Lorelai as an escape from her strict home life. Rory was influenced her in musical taste by lane, as well as her seeming to be Rory’s only friend around her age in stars hollow.

Luke was a large part of Rory’s life way before he dated Lorelai, often playing a fatherly role. He consistently made meals, helped with birthdays, giving presents, taking care of Rory when she was ill, fixing up the girls house, being deeply protective and attending her big events. Rory struggled with her lack of a father but seemed to really appreciate Luke even going to him when she was struggling during her and her mother’s huge fight. He was awkward and sucked as much as the girls in proper communication, but tried as best he could to support her. Luke is just as protective as her own father, and present way more often.

The rest of the town: Ms Patty, Babette Dell, Morey Dell, Fran Weston, Bootsy, Gypsy, Taylor Doose, Mrs Kim, Jackson Belleville, Andrew & Kirk Gleason were all very important in Rory’s upbringing teaching her different things, keeping her in books. The town at large loved Rory as a kid and into her adulthood. They all come to birthdays and throw her a bon-voyage party.

Being surrounded by a large extended family in the form of the town gave Rory a kind of cushioned experience with how people treat one another. Even if she wasn’t intensely popular at school the town at large prop her up, told her she was wonderful and basically never told her that she was wrong. She was the darling of everyone. Rory was deserving in some senses, she was kind and helped with the town but she struggled to learn how to deal with other people realistically, expecting things to always go well and others not to take advantage of her.

Rory's relationship with her grandparents becomes extremely close after 15ish years of almost no interaction. They love Rory but are controlling in a way that causes strain. Another problem they often have is they are also navigating around the fallout of Lorelai and her parents' history. Emily and Richard want to "fix" what went "wrong" with Lorelai. Rory is their second chance, placing an unfair expectation. They also feed Rory's need to be perfect and expectation of getting it. One reason I do think they click is they do in a way give her more traditional parenting. Lorelai struggled to balance her want to be friends with Rory and Parent, Emily and Richard are always parents. I do think even with headstrong, stubborn and independent person like Rory to have people care for her and not force decisions on her. But this becomes toxic when she lives with them and she suffers the stifling aspect of emotionally controlling and abusive nature of the Gilmores.

Dean was her first love and an important part of her life for a long time. Her relationship with Dean was fine enough in the beginning but Rory overlooked the part of that that wasn’t healthy. The unhealthy behaviours grew overtime instead of exceeding good parts, this ultimately leading to them having an affair and Dean hurting his wife. Rory was supported in this relationship when she was younger by most of the people around her. Rory wanted him to be the one and only but it was an unrealistic goal. Their second try at a relationship began as cheating and ended when Dean realised she had more to her life than being his girlfriend.

Her relationship with Jess started off as a kind of forbidden romance against the wishes of society and the feelings started while she was dating someone else. the relationship was strained for a lot of the time because they both sucked at communication. She was also the only person besides Luke Jess ever had, it's hard to experience a healthy relationship when you are really the only person the other one has. They did care deeply for each other though, and end up helping the other be a better person through their deep understanding of each other, even if their romance didn't work out.

Logan and her relationship was mostly healthy in terms of making each other happy and was the best communication, though that is a low bar. In slightly less productive he was also a large part in her embracing the partying lifestyle. He also enables worse impulses like leaving Yale, he doesn't force them but his lack of care and Hakuna Matta lifestyle making it easy. Their disagreements like the others come mostly from lack of communication and being hyperemotional people. Rory expects him to be the worst he can be, and he doesn't take time to think through what he doesn't. They also have similar family lives which cause strain, though the handle it differently, Rory tries to be the perfect Gilmore while Logan bucks the system. Logan also has aa implied Alcohol addiction problem which of course strains their lives, as it always does.

Rory's relationship with Paris Geller is another huge one in her life. They start off pretty much enemies in school. Paris is so obsessed with being the absolute best she hates that Rory is able to match her skill and standing in the class. She spends much of the first year playing games to have more success and power. Rory is also a perfectionist and has the same natural skill and usually, the same time and work put in. Rory ends up seeing that Paris is deeply insecure and has even worse family relationships then she has ever had. It's hard for them to hate each other when they are both struggling to be as best they can, working together. They end up being more "frenemies" for the last two years of high school and in college. They push each other forward a lot and support them as time goes on. Paris's intensity and propensity to think everyone is acting against her, and their inherent need for competition keeps them going back and forth quite a bit. But they stay friends for their whole adulthood seen in AYTL.

Rory slid into higher society better than her mother ever did. She was close to her grandparents that might have been healthy they expected a better Lorelai and in many ways, that’s what they got. Rory learned the functions well, attended elite schools and dated a Huntzberger. Rory, in the beginning, so conflicts averse she did as she was told, and then adopted much of that lifestyle by choice later. This society allowed her intellect to continue to be praised as well as her looks and luck of birth.

Rory’s friends and family viewing her as usually flawless has always been the best, and truly being naturally gifted academically made it very hard for Rory to deal with any rejection. She is so deeply perfectionist that losing is unexpected and quickly hugely destabilizing. We see this when she isn’t perfect at college and then in extreme form with Mitchum Huntzburger.

Rory broke down twice around not living up to her and others expectation. The second time landing her in jail and listless in her purpose. This dates back to her never being told know and perfectionist tendencies.

Inbetween the end and AYTL we see she burned out early and was fine cheating on her boyfriend (who she treats real shitty) by sleeping with an ex who was engaged. She falls back on her most destructive tendencies forgetting that even with her natural gifts she had actually done the work when she was, young.

Overall Rory is generally kind and willing to help others, her lack of communication and relationship skills were often detrimental to her. Her overstated belief in her own raw talent and tendency to deny the obvious made her professional life struggle as well.

ADHD:

RSD

hyperactivity

hyper interest

hyper fixating

needs a schedule to function

attempts organization but has trouble sticking to it

outbursts of emotion

rambling

impulsivity often masked my anxiety

difficulty in social settings

struggles to understand her emotions

Bolting

GAD:

An overwhelming fear of failure

easily overwhelmed by stimuli

easily stressed out

escapism through books

fear of expressing emotions causing bottling up till it spills over

needs things done in one way

Obsessive behaviours, organization and studying

panic attacks when she is older

people pleaser to avoid conflict

perfectionist

rumination

struggles to define her needs in relationships

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Lorelai Gilmore Character Analysis (updated)

Facts:

Grew up with her an emotionally abusive mother. Including constantly degrading her self-esteem (constantly calling her a disappointment, the “big head” incident. Forcing her into uncomfortable situations. making her act and dress the way Emily likes.)

Parents not taking a large interest in her interests.

Emily wants to be involved with her life but not willing to accept her choices (we see this in her expecting to always know whats going on. but then telling her that her choices are wrong.) Also exemplified in her saying she knows everything about Lorelai only admitting shes wrong once (Rory’s birthday parties.)

Lorelai has very few happy memories of her father. stating he never really played with her or did things with her in general (forgiveness and stuff, the revival of prime for two times she mentions this)

She always forgives her parents. even when the severely cross the line (Emily with breaking up her and luke. Emily always pushing Christopher on the girls. Constantly throwing Lorelai’s mistakes in her face. Emily telling her she never loved her father)

Lorelai took care of Rory by her self-starting at age 16.

Lorelai worked her way up through her job with no college education ( i assume she didn’t graduate high school but I have no idea) then started graduated from business school latter allowing her to start her own business.

Emily and Richard tend to try and control Lorelai. basically using the blackmail of Rory’s education to make Lorelai come to their house. angry when she pays them back but still agrees to visit them.

Was in a long-term relationship with Christopher as a child. Was put in a situation where everyone wanted them to get married. Not wanting this to happen she broke it off.

Attempted to allow Christopher to be a parent but he refused this offer unless Lorelai would marry him.

Has trouble with romantic relationships. breaking off an engagement, having an on again/off again relationship with Christopher eventually marrying him to get a divorce a short time later. Also had a very turbulent relationship with Luke. until the final work things out (post og series into revival) worsened by both of their lack of communication.

is a very loving friend. planning the funeral of her neighbour’s cat, participating in every town event donating her time and skills.

Puts Rory before anything else in her life in every situation. sometimes to a fault being very over cautious with Rory’s dating and education.

has an extremely close relationship with Rory with it being a friendship as much as a mother/daughter thing.

Analysis:

Lorelai is an extremely independent person. She wants to do everything her way and often by herself. This is obviously epitomized by her leaving her parents and supporting herself mostly on her own. She also tries to raise Rory in her way instead of the sheltered my way or the high way life of her parents. works to be the opposite.

Lorelai even in her independent state of mind she does tend to become over-attached to certain people throughout the story. This will happen with her boyfriend at the time. and then revert back to Rory.

Hides her insecurities and self-esteem problems with a strong bravado. These often stem from her childhood and parents. Feels guilt, anger, and frustration with her parents. She deals with these feeling by distancing herself. Another tactic she uses to cope is humour.

has a tendency to bit self-centred. Centring her wishes with the inn over Sookie’s. This problem can be part of her turbulent relations. Some of this is innate Lorelai but also comes from a deep need to control things around her.

self-sabotages often. Sleeping with Christopher when he comes when she knows it will hurt her. Porpously acting out with her parents to garner chaos (though sometimes I think its more of habit than trying to cause harm.)

Splits on people. Max around their proposed marriage, her parents multiple times (as a teenager, with paying the money, the luke brake up, yale etc.), Luke (with jess and April), Rory (Rory’s affair, quitting yale). Often to head off commitment.

Has a lack of self-control in social situations. Tends to speak when she shouldn’t, makes inappropriate comments (like bush and at Richards funeral), and be loud. She also uses humour to cope especially with her mom, so she doesn’t always attempt to hold it together.

Puts Rory before herself especially in the beginning. Her attachment to trying to never put her down sometimes to a point it is detrimental to them both

Has trouble focusing on tasks. Like homework, cooking, general stuff. She has a strong drive to do her work but finds completing the tasks hard. She does mostly get to what she wants.

She is loyal and loving. Helping her friends, throwing the bachelor and baby shower for Lane, painting for Luke, throwing April a birthday party, hanging out with Paris, babysitting for Sookie, and letting Kirk stay with her. One part of this is she has a deep maternal connection to anyone she has affection for. While she can be childish her deep compassion allows the emotion to have a maternal dynamic

Has a lot of old notions of classism. Believing the only way to get into a good college was feign richness by going to private school. This also gives a sense of entitlement she fights through the whole how.

Her communication skills are absolutely awful. This probably stems from her emotions neer being validated and a lack of taught coping skills.

ADHD:

Troubling focusing

Is extremely easily distractible. Switching subjects often, talking fast and getting off topic.

Her space is always disorganized when she is working.

Had trouble getting things started but was okay once she got into the groove.

Always losing things asking Rory to find them for her.

Stims/Fidgets throughout the show. Repeating words as an auditory/vocal stim (coffee, coffee, coffee). Is often showing moving her hands around. Uses foods in this capacity as well.

Not only an existentialy restless but also physically restless. Finds her parents long dinner hard to sit through.

Always talking. This is just her personality but also seems to be used to defuse her anxiety.

Always moving and going places. the trouble with lots of calm places

Extremely impulsive. Makes lots of choices without thinking

BPD:

a pattern of unstable romantic relationships

Extreme and powerful emotions

tendency to self-destruct

Fave person in the form of Rory

works hard to try and fend off abandonment often by running the relationship before it truly is at that point

acts impulsively on thoughts and feelings

struggles to understand and express her emotions

Intense mood swings

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Rory Gilmore Character Analysis

Facts

raised by a single mom

basically abandoned by her father

grew up in a small town who adore her. Functionally like an extended family

huge reader

Family financially struggled when she was little

highly devoted to education

Goal oriented when she is young

Wants to be a journalist and travel

Highly obsessed with media of all kinds, a shared interest with her mother

Somewhat of a wallflower as a teen

attended an elite preparatory school for last three years of high school

Tends to do whatever is asked of her, most common with her grandparents going against her upbringing and mothers lifestyle

deeply competitive with her main Rival in school (Paris)

Excellent in academic settings

Displays a willingness to be in unhealthy relationships with her BF’s

Believes in a strict pattern in her life and rejects changes

Has visceral reactions to rejection, like with Mitchum

Learned to fit in well with an elite culture

Struggled in her work

Analysis:

Rory overall was a combination of natural gifts, communication issues, commitment and a girl who faced very little criticism.

Rory's relationship with her mother Lorelai is the deepest defining connection. Her taste in media and food come from her mom, as well as her struggles to form competent romantic connections. Lorelai instilled an independent identity as well as a fun-loving idea and a love of laughter. Lorelai also shaped Rory by acting as much of a friend as a parental figure, part of this was having trouble ever telling Rory “no”, or that anything she did was wrong.

Being surrounded by a large extended family in the form of the town gave Rory a kind of cushioned experience with how people treat one another. Even if she wasn't intensely popular at school the town at large prop her up, told her she was wonderful and basically never told her that she was wrong. She was the darling of everyone. Rory was deserving in some senses, she was kind and helped with the town but she struggled to learn how to deal with other people realistically, expecting things to always go well and others not to take advantage of her.

This along with being naturally gifted academically made it very hard for Rory to deal with any rejection, we see this when she isn’t perfect at college and then in extreme form with Mitchum Huntzburger.

Rory’s love life was a mess, Her relationship with Dean was fine enough in the beginning but Rory overlooked the part of that that weren’t healthy. The unhealthy behaviours grew overtime instead of exceeding good parts, this ultimately leading to them having an affair and dean hurting his wife. Her relationship with Jess started off as a kind of forbidden romance against the wishes of society byt their similar inability to express their wants and needs ending up leaving both of them heartbroken. Logan and her relationship was mostly healthy in terms of 3aking each other happy and was the best communication. In slightly less oductive he was also a large part in her embracing the white collar society vs the lifestyle of stars hollow. He also enables worse impulses though doesn't nesscary enforce then.

Rory slid into higher society better than her mother ever did. She was close to her grandparents than might have been healthy they expected a better Lorelai and in many ways, that’s what they got. Rory learned the functions well, attended elite schools and dated a Huntzberger. Rory, in the beginning, so conflicts averse she did as she was told, and then adopted much of that lifestyle by choice later. This society allowed her intellect to continue to be praised as well as her looks and luck of birth.

ADHD:

RSD

hyperactivity

hyerintrsists

hyperfixating

needs a schedule to function

attempts organization but has trouble sticking to it

outbursts of emotion

rambling

impulsivity often masked my anxiety

difficulty in social settings

strugles to understand her emotions

Bolting

Anxiety:

perfectionist

easily overwhelmed

needs things done in one way

fear of expressing emotions

escapism through books

struggles to define her needs in relationships

can be a pushover especially when she is younger

over organize

easily stressed out

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Logan Huntzberger Character Analysis

Facts:

His father was rarely home, emotionally neglectful and uninvolved

His mother was neglectful and emotionally abusive

Had a large amount of privilege his whole life due to intergenerational wealth and a father and grandfather with well-known business tyes

was expected to be a very specific kind of person. Marry the right person, have a specific kind of job, go to the right school, hang with the right friends and more

bounced around school based on misbehaviour as a teen

Blew off a year of school to sail, and broke a yacht.

Part of the life and death brigade.

Brought Rory into the upper-class social network

Had a system he had for parties, as well as visiting rich people

extremely skilled, writer and a good businessman

has a tendency to slack off, extreme partier

sees breaking the law as something you can just do, as in his experience people always get off

attempted to break away from his father but was unable too

proposed to Rory against his mother's wishes

Often used drinking and recklessness when stressed.

Had a tight group within his social circle who would (and have) jump off a cliff with Logans say so

Cheated on his fiancée Odette with Rory

Analysis:

Logan was a very strong rebel at heart, and wanted to be his own man but struggled to fully pull away from his parents, and that culture. He loved living life as it came and having adventures, he was a deeply emotional person but he struggled to ever express it.

He acted out against his schools' rules as a child/teen, I believe partially because he enjoys those kinds of things as well as purposely pushing back on his parents' plans. There was also probably an aspect of looking for attention that his family failed to give him.

Everyone, even those who weren’t a fan of his admitted he was charming and talented. He has the talent to make everyone fall under his shine. His charm also covered a deep insecurity as well as an underlying anger at a feeling of being stuck in his parents' plans. We see a lot of this come out when people insult him or Rory, as well as Rory receiving attention from other guys.

His entitlement and slight lack of ability to see other points made some people view him as deeply annoying and alienating those who saw the worst of the entitlement. Unlike Lorelai, he feels no need to reject the culture of his childhood of privilege. He really likes messing around on a world scale, he likes never having to sweat any of the small stuff. He was incapable of making the jump Lorelai did when Rory was born (even if she never fully let go of some of her classist views). He wanted his cake and to eat it too so to speak. After leaving his dad job in season 7, he jumps to a silicon valley style job with other trust fund kids.

He hides his insecurity by jumping from thing to thing and partying. He also never had a long-term relationship before Rory. Never even calling anyone his girlfriend before that. His close platonic relationships generally consist of acting ridiculous and irresponsible and they often follow Logan’s lead.

Logan grows a lot learns to be honest with his feelings and let down the wall he built, which I think stems from his parents' disinterest in how he actually felt. We see his growth when he protects Rory from his parents' judgment, calls her his girlfriend, has her move in with him and attends stars hollow events. We also see growth in his rejection of his parents' money in season 7 working to build his own life.

However, there was a major regression at some point between season 7 and AYITL. We see he returned to his father’s ordained life and returns to hiding his emotions from his parents/society as well as maintaining an “acceptable” relationship (Odette). I don’t have enough info to really trace what caused this, as the only factor we see is Rory rejecting him, but I think there were likely more steps in-between.

This act though isn't totally out of character. As I said before he enjoys being able to jet around the world as well as liking to treat those he likes to extravagant events. The consistent friends in his life are fine with riding the waves of their upper-class lifestyle (Colin, Finn & Robert). His sister bucked to some extent by marrying who she liked, but the family ended up being okay as she wasn't the one carrying the Huntzberger line. In AYITL he seems to fall back to acting the way he thinks he should while doing what he wants under the table. It's disappointing but makes some sense. We see a worse version of this in Christopher (worse because Rory and Gigi are affected by Chris)

Alcohol Abuse:

His lifestyle includes alcohol a lot as that’s what’s viewed as socially viable. Most times we see him with friends they are drinking. His drinking is integral to a point in his characters, for example, he and his friends are hungover in their first appearances.

Alcohol is his solution to being sad, being bored and as part of having fun. Alcohol use isn’t necessarily problematic however I believe he takes it to a point of being unhealthy.

One way is Logan causes himself serious injury because of his drinking. He wrecks his Yacht (we don’t know he was injured, but it is extremely destructive behaviour) and then hurts himself during his Life and Death brigade stunt in South America.

We also see he uses alcohol to handle his high-stress times. We see this in season six when he fears that he is falling into his parents' plans. His drinking bothers Rory, and eventually incites the break/break up with Rory because of his behaviour towards her and Jess. We also see this when his business starts to fail. Again it affects his relationship with Rory, as well as making him kind of miserable.

BPD (borderline personality disorder)

Uses sex, partying and alcohol to deal with emptiness and stress

unstable relationships

a tendency for self-destructive behaviours

Struggles to maintain a sense of identity

impulsivity

Struggles to control anger

Highly reactive emotional state

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