The first verse of All This Time (it’s late now/i’m tryna find the word to say for ages/just have patience/it’s not how you spend the time it’s if you waste it) reminds me so much of what Harry said about My policeman and it’s breaking my heart but I love it so much. Can’t stop listening to this album!!
This! song! is! so! queer!
All This Time was the one song I cried the first time I listened to it because it has this way of saying we see each other, we're the same with the lyrics "Our eyes meet. And I can tell that you’re the same as me. It’s the way we see ourselves through walls of trees" that completely blows my mind. That is one of the reasons I feel so safe and comfortable in this community. It's so personal for many of us here, listening to a song like this where there's such a big acknowledgement of these struggles and doubts… feeling seen is so good, it's a relief. And Louis always does this so fucking well, he did it with Just Like You, Copy Of and Only The Brave. But All This Time has this element of positivity.
Your parallel about the line "it’s not how you spend the time, it’s if you waste it" is so well put, anon. I love it so much, I can totally see them talking about this.. especially when they were younger, I feel there was a feeling there they were wasting their time. But it was never about wasting time for them, because they always embraced it, it's not a burden if you're proud of it like they are.
And also, for me, my own queer journey blends with my experience in this fandom so much. So there's also so much hope for what we see of them after all this time! For everything that we theorize and fight for even though we're completely lost and in the dark sometimes. It's so funny but the line "we keep on building mountains and hoping that they’ll turn to gold" every single day around here, we lose our hope the same way we keep hoping and we keep screaming and we keep fighting. For ourselves and for them. And that's never about wasting time if it's truthful... so it's worth it.
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i for one am very interested in any other smiths songs you've associated with f1 drivers 👀
Oh god thank you for asking...sorry this took so long! I'll list the songs, but as with most things, I had to deliberate, so under the cut is my horrifically long explanations if you're curious!!
Obligatory: "The Boy With The Thorn in His Side"(x) - Strollonso
"You've Got Everything Now"(x) - Martian from Mark's POV
"These Things Take Time"(x) - Brocedes or Martian from Nico/Mark's POV
"Handsome Devil"(x) - drivers in fireproofs
"What Difference Does It Make"(x) - Martian from Seb's POV
"Back To The Old House"(x) - Mark's relationship with RBR and Seb
"Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want"(x) - Mark
"Sweet and Tender Hooligan"(x) - Max
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby"(x) - Jenson, Mark & Nico
"Bigmouth Strikes Again"(x) - Martian from Mark's POV
Honorary mention: "The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get"(x) - Martian from Seb's POV
So as with all things, I needed to be comprehensive and overly detailed with this. Ill try and hold back from doing too much full song analysis, but I'll quote lyrics and explain why I associate what with who! Tbh I mostly just associate Smiths songs with Martian because I think their music is often really good at capturing the bitterness of a relationship falling apart or love so intense that it's violent, both which I think are very Martian
"You've Got Everything Now" - Martian
To me this is my de facto Martian song, I think about it constantly, I'll probably make a post with it sometime. It's just such a bitter song that's to me about a relationship falling apart. I view it from Mark's perspective.
"As merry as the days were long//I was right and you were wrong." Very petty, very bitter!!
"But you've got everything now//you've got everything now//and what a terrible mess I've made of my life." 2013 vibes, him being fed up with it all, particularly with Seb winning everything.
"You are your mother's only son//and you're a desperate one" Haha think of Christian as the mother in this situation. Golden boy vibes! Seb's utter desperation to win!
"A friendship sadly lost?//Well this is true...and yet it's false, oh//But did I ever tell you, by the way?//I never did like your face" Again that resentment and bitterness that made him act petty and childish
"I just want to be tied...oh ...to the back of your car" yayyyyy racing, why can't it be me in your position, in your car, etc etc
"These Things Take Time" - Brocedes or Martian
I used to think of this as only a Martian song but now it kinda makes me think of Brocedes. (To me)It's very much about one person in a friendship/relationship getting more successful and leaving the other behind.
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the sacred Wunderkind" Seb! Golden Boy! Lewis! Rookie of the Century!
"But I can't believe you'd ever care//and this is why you will never care//But these things take time//And I know I'm the most inept that ever stepped" Like, you're so above it all that you couldn't care for little old me. Just the feeling of inferiority
"But you know where you came from//You know where you're going//And you know where you belong" Mark/Nico feeling sometimes as odds with their teams as they felt their teammate was the clear favorite who was getting preferential treatment
"Oh the alcoholic afternoons//When we sat in your room//They meant more to me than any living thing on earth//They had more worth//Than any living thing on earth" Okay this is the verse that made me think of Brocedes. Their karting years and how much time they spent with each other.
"Vivid and in your prime//You will leave me behind//you will leave me behind" THE THESIS!!!! THIS LYRIC HAUNTS ME ON THE DAILY!! IT IS MY MARTIAN THESIS!!!
"Handsome Devil"
Okay so this song is just kinda jokey and surprisingly horny for The Smiths, but its where my brain goes every time I see drivers in fireproofs...especially Seb...it's pretty self explanatory if you listen to it
"You handsome devil//oh, you handsome devil." As I said: self explanatory
"Let me get my hands//On your mammary glands." HAHAHAHA these lyrics still make me laugh, so horny
"What Difference Does It Make?" - Martian
It reminds me of this one Martian fic(x) Again, a relationship deteriorating. How Seb's utter commitment and devotion to winning at all costs caused conflict between them and ultimately led to their relationship falling apart. Mark thinking he'd be seen as the Number One due to his seniority, and then being faced with Seb's no holds barred racing! I guess it's kind've how Mark never seemed to be capable of being as happy for Seb winning as Seb was for Mark. They're both at fault for the same reasons though tbh. But from Seb's perspective this time
"For we have been through hell and high tide//I think I can rely on you//And yet you start to recoil//Heavy words are so lightly thrown//But still I'd leap in front of a bullet for you" Teammates :( They keep fighting but can't stay mad at each other forever
"So what difference does it make?//It makes none//But now you have gone//And you must be looking very old tonight." Like, why are you being such a baby, why does this have to change our relationship off the track too, why can't you just accept this about me, don't you know I need to win?
"Well I'm still fond of you, oh-ho-oh." This can be both. Even if they had bad moments, they always seemed to be able to at least partially reconcile
"Back to The Old House" - Mark & Martian
Goddddd this song is just Mark's relationship with RBR, and particularly in its relation to Seb, and how he felt post-retirement. Like I can't even really pick lyrics because the whole entire song fits so well! I would love to make a web weave with this
"I would rather not go//Back to the old house//I would rather not go//Back to the old house//There's too many bad memories//Too many memories there" Mark's relationship with RBR in terms immediate post-retirement. How it got toxic by the end. The "old house" is so RBR coded for any ex-Red Bull driver tbh
"When you cycled by//Here began all my dreams//The saddest thing I've ever seen//And you never knew//How much I really liked you//Because I never even told you//Oh, and I meant to//Are you still there or have you moved away?//Or have you moved away?" Again, being teammates made their relationship toxic, and they work much better together as people outside of that! Seb thinking Mark hates him :( And then "have you moved away?" HE MOVED AWAY FROM THE OLD HOUSE, HE MOVED TO FERRARI
"Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want" - Mark
This song makes me think of how arduous his career was, especially with how all those records that Hulk has now, were at one point his. Especially after watching the 2009 British GP, just that palpable relief of finally getting his first win. And then also 2010 WDC vibes, finally properly being involved in the fight. Please just let him get what he wants, this time! I dont need to analyze the lyrics for this, just listen to it and tell me it doesn't remind you of Mark!!
"Sweet and and Tender Hooligan" - Max
Hahaha this song reminds me of his first couple seasons and just the whole "Mad Max" thing. And just how RBR, particularly Christian, have to defend their boy!! Their sweet and tender hooligan!! I think I could make a web weave of this one as well haha, just with how other drivers, like Nico, talked about how much a menace he was.
"He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooligan//He said he'd never, never do it again//And of course he won't, oh, not until the next time" LITERALLY HIM!! Like with his insane overtakes and aggressive driving
"Poor old man, he had an accident with a three-bar fire//But that's okay, because he wasn't very happy anyways." Makes me think of my fav Max radio, when he overtakes Kimi and says "See you fucking later, son" The utter gall!! What a hooligan!!
"Jury, you've heard every word, so before you decide//Would you look into those "Mother Me" eyes?//I love you for you, my love, you, my love." Mother Hen Christian defending his teenage menace
"You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby" - Jenson, Nico & Mark
Tbh fits any driver who had a long career and struggled for so long to get that first win/WDC. I would love to make a post with this song!!!
"If you're wondering why//All the love that you long for eludes you//And people are rude and cruel to you" Toxic fans and pundits you know :( like everyone saying they won't make it in F1 and that they'll never win, etc
You just haven't earned it yet, baby//You just haven't earned it, son//You just haven't earned it yet, baby//You must suffer and cry for a longer time//You just haven't earned it yet, baby//And I'm telling you now" THE THESIS OF F1 HONESTLY LIKE PLEASEEEE
"Today I am remembering the time//When they pulled me back//And held me down//And looked me in the eyes and said//You just haven't earned it yet, baby//You just haven't earned it, my son" Team principals I guess, it reminds me of Flavio hating Jense and calling him a useless playboy who'd never make it
"Bigmouth Strikes Again" - Martian
Foot? In mouth. This is one of the songs I was thinking of when I said love so intense that it feels violent. I am so obsessed with the opening verse, I love the whole song but that first verse....:
"Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking//When I said I'd like to smash every tooth//In your head//Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking//When I said by rights you should be//Bludgeoned in your bed." Normal comments one makes to their little twink bastard teammate
"The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get" - Martian
Not Smiths, but Smiths adjacent. I'm trying to make a Martian playlist and this was the first song so I felt like I had to include it. It just reminds me of any of those posts about twink menace Seb ruining Mark's life LOL, just a very bratty and pushy song, I think it fits RBR Seb's somewhat Stockholm relationship with Mark
"The more you ignore me//The closer I get//You're wasting your time." You're not getting rid of me as your teammate no matter what hehehe, you're stuck with me!
"I am now//A central part//Of your mind's landscape//Whether you care//Or do not//Yeah, I've made up your mind" This lyric makes me laugh every time, the "Ive made up your mind", it always gets me. That's so pushy bratty Seb, like, yes I will get my way whether you like it or not
"I will creep//Into your thoughts//Like a bad debt//That you can't pay//Take the easy way//And give in." Absolutely canon that Seb lived in Mark's thoughts rent free, he took up proper residence!! Anyways this whole song fits, it's so cheeky!! And a little unhinged....
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Lamentations lyrical analysis/rambling because I am not normal about it
Redefine how to feel human
We know Fayrouz is in denial about her mistakes, so being faced with the reality that Mariyam and Tamari are very close to human, with thoughts and feelings, hits pretty hard.
Also, automata has two definitions:
a moving mechanical device made in imitation of a human being.
used in comparisons to refer to a person who seems to act in a mechanical or unemotional way.
The first one fits the siblings, the second one fits Fayrouz. 'How to feel human' has to be redefined because her androids are more human than she is
Redefine my kindness
Redefine what’s wrong, what’s right
So you don’t test my patience
Still about denial, she'll come up with so many reasons why she's not a bad person
Don’t expect an easy life and
Don’t expect my mercy
She's cold and, well, I wouldn't describe her as merciless, but she's not particularly merciful. I also feel like this is what she indirectly communicated to Mariyam after Tamari ran away because he expected all that.
Hold your breath and walk on ice
For any less would hurt me
This might mean that she's also very fragile, and 1- anything going against her plans is wrong because she's controlling, and 2- she's been hurt before and every time it happens it hurts more
Restarting, rebooting null programs
Running, debugging their brains
Forging and sorting successes
Things will never be the same
I think this is just emphasizing the clinical tone, but also how she's not the same as she was before. This could be that she's changed inside even if her cold attitude remained the same, or that she developed that attitude after everything that happened? I don't think so but eh, it's still possible
Tear apart, break the neglected
Carelessness widens the fault
'The neglected' are her ex-husband and the siblings, but she 'tore them appart' unintentionally and/or unconsciously, which from her point of view makes it even worse
Suppressing relapsed indignation
I just think she suppresses her feelings because she's not ready to deal with them and everything they imply
Rising steam through superheated bolts
Idk what this means
I’m only working smart
Tear out a broken heart
Rewire, take it higher than we’ve ever been
Again, repressing her emotions so they don't interfere with her work (also, repressing that Tamari running away hurt her so she could still work on Mariyam)
A land unknown, to bring her home a perfect twin
This one puzzles me. The 'perfect twin' is Mariyam, but why does she say 'her home' if obviously Mariyam didn't exist before being created? Is Fayrouz talking about herself in the third person for some reason?? But then I don't see why it'd say 'twin'
Either way, the point is that Mariyam was supposed to be perfect
Perfection you could’ve never been
This is both about her ex-husband and Tamari, but I think it's specifically comparing Mariyam and Tamari and how Mariyam was everything that Tamari 'could have never been', maybe because he reminded Fayrouz of her ex-husband so she's projecting all her negative feelings about him on them after they ran away
Read it and weep
Pay attention to the finer print
'Finer print' means details not immediately obvious, like how she hurt her family. She says she should have payed attention to it because she keeps making mistakes that make everything worse, but she only notices them looking back
Read it and weep
We’ll recreate a scarlet sin
Not sure what this is supposed to mean. Perhaps it's related to her neglect?
Forging a stronger core
That’s the price of war
Another confusing one. It makes me think of reluctantly becoming stronger because of pain, while it would be preferable to not be in pain at all
Brace for the fate you’ll face
For following the path you’ve paved
This just means 'you had it coming'
STOP
You don’t know what I’ve been through
DON’T YOU DARE FORGET
Your roots are where I’ve planted you
IN MY ETERNAL DEBT
Fayrouz, possibly talking to Mariyam (or even Tamari) when they ran away, justifying her actions because she's been through a lot, and because they wouldn't exist without her, so they owe her everything
Reflections of the past
I see him in your faces
I still wonder why
He never came back that day
The reason why she treated the siblings like that is because they remind her of her ex-husband. (Bonus: the instrumental for the line 'he never came back that day' is very similar to the one for 'now you're all alone' in EWN. Fayrouz is all alone now)
My hands are filthy as can be
Beneath the skin, tarnished by rogue machinery
Meaning that she has done many bad things, and she tries to hide them, but Mariyam and Tamari running away 'tarnish' her cover and change her to the point it's impossible to hide anything
My stomach’s churning, throwing up my grief
Anatomizing your synthetic humanity
And we're back to the very first line! She's still thinking about how the concept of 'humanity' is more complex than she thought at first, and this time, she realized that it means that Mariyam and Tamari are also human and have lives, much like herself and her ex-husband
Failed to recognize warning signs
And I let it happen thrice
You’re once more lead astray
Self explanatory, she never realized that there was anything wrong until her ex-husband, Tamari and Mariyam left.
Something I’ve never understood
The question I’ve overlooked
Am I the one to blame?
And she never understood why it kept happening, until she realized that it was her fault. She had been running from this fact for so long but it only made everything worse
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