two birds with one stone.
edited the pic above bc i forgot raven's earrings. which i did last time, too, i think, lol.
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when dick was 13-15, robin went through what the league/team calls ‘the scowling’
criminals thought gotham had really hardened the young birds spirit
those closest to the bats know it’s actually because he had braces and couldn’t show them while in costume
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I feel that the 2003 Teen Titans cartoon has a weird chokehold over a lot of the DC fandom, particularly the parts that don't actually READ or even like COMICS, to the point where this show, whose creators openly admit had to be simple enough for a toddler to follow, largely informs a lot of fans' interpretations of some pretty complex characters, themes and continuity. The show, specifically, can tend to become nostalgia bait, and I think it's due time for a lot of this fandom to take off their rose-tinted glasses and let the show go.
Like I enjoyed the show growing up and I still have a soft spot for episodes like Lightspeed and Hide & Seek, but...frankly it's a simple show tailored to young kids that just does not, and was never meant to, do justice to the Titans' comic canon. This show could never have done Who is Donna Troy? and conveyed the unlabelableness of Donna and Dick's relationship, but it was never supposed to. Characterisations are intentionally dumbed down, themes are broken down into bite-sized morals, half of the show is dedicated to comedy, and character development is purposely few and far between because this show was designed for kids aged 2-11. And all that is fine but it's just not at all a reflection of what the Titans really are in print. It should not really inform any serious reading of the DC comic universe.
On the one hand, I really didn't need to see a Red X comic arc or Starfire talking in broken english in a comic, it's all just cheap nostalgia bait that people need to stop falling for. It's sacrificing theme in favour of cheap references. On the other hand, I do think the fans I'm talking about probably owe it to themselves to a) be a little more honest and critical about their engagement with DC media, and b) challenge themselves more when engaging in media to avoid wallowing in flanderized fluff.
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Reading through early some 70s comics, and the extent to which Dick is just over there beating himself up is wild.
Like the time when all the Teen Titans except him were involved in the accidental firing of a gun that killed a man, and Dick still blames himself because he wasn't there. (Wally thinks Dick needs to knock it off and let the rest of them have their own trauma):
-- Teen Titans (1966) #25
Or here, where the rest of the Titans are all presumed dead while trapped in limbo (while thinking that Dick had lied about evidence and sent an innocent guy to jail - a plot line that is never followed up on), and Dick wanders around getting beaten up, refusing to get help, and calling himself useless:
--Teen Titans (1966) #10
And here he is at college after he broke up a fight by punching a guy who turned out not to have been the instigator:
--Detective Comics #402
And here he's in a dream sequence forcing him to face his biggest fear, which is, of course, failing to rescue someone (complete with a vision of Batman being disappointed in him):
-- Teen Titans (1966) #38
I wasn't even reading with a Dick lens, and half of these comics are pretty limited in the characterization department; his guilt complex just leaps out at you around every corner.
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Hey so who wants some angst fic about Teen Titans-era Tim Drake and the crushing weight of grief and fucking up real bad via accidentally actually cloning your dead best friend based on some very nice fanart by @fraudue? 'Cuz if you do I got you, friends. Like very much so do I got you.
"I didn't actually mean it."
Tim walks into the basement lab after being away for a week on an incredibly miserable mission that none of the Titans meant to be on for so long and the computer announces “subject complete.”
The bottom drops out of his stomach and crashes straight through the floor.
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Robin hugging Starfire from behind and resting his head on her shoulder no I will not elaborate
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