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ethereal-bumble-bee · 3 months
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what the heck happened to the newsies fandom y’all
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pigeonwit · 10 months
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davey jacobs but he has meltdowns. big ugly meltdowns where he cant be touched or spoken to and just needs to be left alone to cry and stim and scream and go catatonic for a little bit. davey jacobs but he has involuntary twitches and stims that include punching himself, twitching his neck/his face, knocking his knuckles together, scratching his skin, etc. davey jacobs but he has shutdowns where he just cant get out of bed or shower or do anything because his energy is so thoroughly spent that even moving hurts. davey jacobs being autistic but not the 'palatable' kind of autistic that neurotypicals find cute and quirky. but his loved ones still love him anyways and don't get frustrated with him for it. they try to help him stim the way he needs to without hurting himself. they dont get mad when hes so exhausted that he cant do certain things because they know its not a matter of choice or pushing yourself or him purposefully not wanting to make an effort for them, he simply cannot do it just yet.
davey jacobs being autistic in ways that are inconvenient and frustrating. davey jacobs being deeply ashamed of that all his life. davey jacobs learning over time that there are people who will not treat his autism and its more difficult aspects as an obstacle to overcome in order to love him.
davey jacobs being autistic and still being loved unconditionally for it.
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field-s-of-flowers · 10 months
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The ending of Gideon the Ninth destroyed me so here’s what I think the Canaan House crew’s favorite musicals would be
Judith: Resident musical theater disliker of Canaan House. Would probably not hate something like Come From Away if you dragged her but is opposed to musicals on principle.
Marta: We don’t know much about her but I think she’d like Wicked!
(EDIT: Now that I’ve read As Yet Unsent, I’m gonna switch my answer for Marta and say Chicago! Idk why it’s just vibes)
Coronabeth: West Side Story! Tragic, romantic, gorgeous score, and she likes puns so she’d love Sondheim.
Ianthe: Cats. @wegottagetouttahere
Naberius: Hamilton guy for sure. Thinks most other musicals are super pretentious.
Isaac and Jeannemary: I’m putting them together because they bonded over Rent. Isaac gives off big theater kid energy to me, and Jeannemary likes rock for sure. They sing Take Me or Leave Me together.
Abigail: Would love a classic like Camelot. Wouldn’t judge the teens in a million years, but she doesn’t really get modern musicals.
Magnus: Fiddler on the Roof! He’s the most likely of the crew to really love musicals imo. Sings to the teens to embarrass them.
Palamedes: Pirates of Penzance. That is a man who loves a good patter song.
Camilla: Would probably just say Pirates of Penzance too, because it’s Pal’s favorite and she doesn’t really get musicals. Would probably like Hamilton a lot but she’d be chill about it.
Dulcinea: Like Marta, we don’t know much about her but I think she’d like Hadestown!
(EDIT: I just came back from seeing Moulin Rouge on tour, and now that I’ve read Harrow I can confidently say that Dulcie would go fucking crazy for that show.)
Protesilaus: Loves Les Mis and has the best voice at Canaan House. You can pry this one out of my cold dead hands
Silas: Lloyd Weber enjoyer. Thinks the eighties were the peak of musical theater and refuses to listen to anything made afterwards.
Colum: Into The Woods I think! Silas has heard him do Agony one too many times. He’s surprisingly good!
Gideon: Newsies fan. Santa Fe makes her feel feelings. (Newsies fandom I’m giving you my best girl because you guys are SO nice)
Harrow: Would dislike theater on principle, Judith-style, but might like something like Hadestown as well if you made her go. Eventually she gets into Malloysicals
Bonus Cytherea: Sweeney Todd if we’re being thematic, but really she’d be a Rodgers and Hammerstein girlie
Bonus-bonus Teacher: You just know if he was real he’d be an opera buff.
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kay-elle-cee · 2 months
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20 Questions for Fic Writers
Hi hi hi! It's been awhile since I did something like this (I feel like I've just mostly been lurking around here lately), so thank you for the tag @annabtg!
AO3 Username: kay_elle_cee
1. How many works do you have on A03? 42!
2. What’s your total Ao3 word count? 307,791.
3. What fandoms do you write for? Harry Potter (Jily) and I'm sitting on a Willabeth oneshot for Pirates of the Caribbean.
4. What are your top five fics by kudos?
i'll be fine, i'll be good
Things That Haven't Happened Yet
A Thrill Divine, Down My Spine
it's (always) you
Fireside Chats <<<That’s a surprise!
5. Do you respond to comments? Always always always! I'm the type of person who always leaves comments, and I love being able to personally chat with everyone who took the time to say something nice :)
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? Ooh that's hard because I write a lot of angst....it's gotta be Idolum and Fulcrum, right? I can think of two others still 😅 But I'm going with these, which are two sides of the same coin.
7. What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? I think A Thrill Divine, Down My Spine, specifically since it's a no-Voldemort AU friends-to-lovers situation.
8. Do you get hate on fics? I have not (yet) and I'm super grateful for that. I know it'll come, statistically.
9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? I do! (God Kelsey from a year ago is SHAKING). I think usually I like to connect it to emotion even if it's a pwp situation, but overall I'd say it's pretty vanilla lol.
10. Do you write crossovers? What’s the craziest one you’ve written? Technically no but also a character named Katherine Kelley made an appearance in my Newsies AU, and if you know, you know.
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? Not that I know of!
12. Have you ever had a fic translated? Someone asked to translate Things That Haven't Happened Yet into Russian, but I'm not sure if that ever happened.
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? I have not!
14. What’s your all time favorite ship? Jily :) (Willabeth is also like, neck-and-neck).
15. What’s a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? I'm trying not to burden myself with a bunch of WIPs so I finish everything 🤞🏼 I have 2 fully outlined right now and I intend to finish!
16. What are your writing strengths? I think dialogue and pacing?
17. What are your writing weaknesses? Description 🙈 Specifically scene-setting description.
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? I don't think I could do it believably, but I love to see it done when it enhances the characters or plot!
19. First fandom you wrote for? Harry Potter. I somehow always find my way back.
20. Favourite fic you’ve written? Listen. Come in close. This will probably always change depending on when you ask me. I've, unsurprisingly, got restless waves rise and fall, my Jily Pirate AU on my brain lately. But also so much time and effort went into i'll be fine, i'll be good, and seeing that it's my most-kudosed fic brings me SO much joy, you can't imagine. <3
Tagging @jamesunderwater, @alittlebitofeverything23, @clare-with-no-i, @isahorcrux, @thequibblah, @possessingtheproperspirit, @emeralddoeadeer @nodirectionhome-ao3 @suzyq31 <3 if you feel like it!
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jasperscringepit · 10 months
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I'm not normally one for questioning characterisation in fics/characterisation because everyone will interpret a character differently, and the way they write them is their decision.
However one thing that does make me curious in the newsies fandom is where the whole extreme introvert/hates people davey came from. I know at the start of the show he's nervous about selling, and seems unsure about the other boys. However, I feel like it's then well established that davey CRAVES companionship. I feel its shown that he so desperately wants to fit in with the others and join their group but is maybe a bit apprehensive about whether he can or should even try. I don't think it's at all that he hates socialising, but more that he's not exactly sure how he's supposed to.
I absolutely think he jokes about not liking being around people, I know I do sometimes. However I don't think that's ever really been true. Yes, he needs time by himself to decompress, but he also needs company just as much. Not necessarily BIG groups, but he needs his friends and family.
I am by no means a writer so this may not be very articulate, but its just something I've noticed from some of the MANY fics I've read. And I'm not saying it's bad necessarily, I'm just curious at this interpretation.
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Be a pal; don't forget to use alt text to describe your images! Kid blink would want you to! I don't know if there is anyone in the newsies fandom who uses a screen reader, but if there is, they should be able to access your posts, right? And if you're not going to use alt text, you can tag #undescribed so people can skip those posts easily.
(I don't use a screen reader; zooming in on images mostly works for me, but you know what I hate? Those grids with a little pic of the different characters saying who would do what thing -- I can never see those!)
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this delancey brothers thing is so interesting to me because like,,, we get very little about their whole family life and backstory and the fandom has yet to come up with anything incredibly solid,,, anyways just thinking thoughts and i want to hear what you have to say
right?? i feel like for a while the fandom kinda shunned them bc of their role as villains… but a bad guy can be a compelling character too!!
i already gave a rundown of my backstory for them in the last ask i answered, so here’s my completely baseless thoughts regarding their personalities and relationship w each other!! @jack-kellys here’s the rest of my delancey nonsense 😙
- oscar is a deeply angry person. he doesn’t know how to feel anything else, when the world has been so cruel to him. he’s been trying to parent his little brother for years, in the shittiest of situations: from an abusive home, to jail, to their tiny bedroom at the newspaper office. wiesel is harsh with them, their job consists of long days of tedious work, and he often feels he has nothing to look forward to. he takes it out on everybody except morris, because he’s learned over the years that everyone is out to get him, so he may as well hurt them first. (hostile attribution bias anyone?? shoutout to all my fellow bitches who studied developmental psych 🤘)
- morris, on the other hand, strikes me as a little less angry and a little more scared. an odd hc of mine for him is that he’s on the fetal alcohol spectrum - he deals with numerous learning disabilities and developmental delays because of it, and it’s made all the trauma he’s experienced very hard to process. he finds his and oscar’s job frustratingly difficult: counting papes and keeping the numbers straight is hard for him, he hates how loud the newsies are (and how loud uncle wiesel is when he’s yelling), and he can’t focus for very long without getting the urge to jump and run and move around, which he knows he’s not allowed to do. he also knows he doesn’t speak very clearly— unless he’s very intentional with every syllable, which almost sounds worse because it’s so awkward, or using phrases he’s already practiced— so he’s given up on talking to anyone other than his big brother, for the most part. he lets oscar do most of the talking and is happy to back him up with his fists.
- oscar doesn’t really understand morris’s disability, but he tries not to think too hard about it. he doesn’t know why his brother needs help with certain things that seem easy— like knowing which shoe goes on which foot, or spelling the letters of his own name— but he’ll help him nonetheless, because that’s just what he needs to do. he thinks he might need to take care of morris forever, because it often seems like there’s some things the kid will just never get the hang of, but oscar doesn’t mind that, because at least it gives him some purpose. if he has to sit there every night and remind morris of the steps to getting cleaned up before bed (wash your face and hands, run a comb through your hair, fold up your clothes…) then at least he’s doing something helpful each day, and that makes him feel alright.
- a random anecdote that sorta sums them up (under the cut bc this is long already):
for morris’s 13th birthday, oscar steals a little stuffed dog from a shop, which morris names puppy and instantly clings to with all his might. at the time, oscar knows morris is too old for toys, but the way the kid lights up when the silly thing is handed to him makes everything worth it. he simply decides to accept that all the bullshit they’ve been through has made it hard for morris to grow up at the same rate as other people, so if babying him a little makes him this happy, that must be fine, right?
several years later, the first thing that ever compels oscar to lay a hand on wiesel is finding puppy in the trash on the front step on his way home from running errands, with its ears ripped off— he’s instantly sure that wiesel found it and took it from morris while he was gone. he charges inside and punches wiesel square across the jaw; he then spends the rest of the night barricaded in their bedroom, trying to messily sew puppy back together and simultaneously calm down his inconsolable little brother.
“you’re too big to cry, mo. you know that. you gotta cut it out before uncle hears you, alright?”
“but he took it. he took puppy away and wrecked it and said i can’t have it no more,” morris wails. “it ain’t fair, osc.”
“i know. i got it back and i’m trying to fix it, okay? i’ll get puppy good as new for you, i swear. you just gotta stop— you’re a big fella and you’re crying over a toy. you can’t be doing that.”
morris sniffles, obviously holding back a sob.
“you busted his head. why’d you do that?”
oscar shrugs. he finally manages to tie off a decent knot on one of the ears, which almost looks right again, despite his terrible stitches.
“i was mad. don’t no one mess with my brother without going through me, right?”
morris manages a smile, despite the way he’s still intently watching his beloved puppy be put back together, with tears in his eyes.
“right. and i’ll soak anyone who talks bad at you, i swear.”
wiesel beats oscar black and blue with his cane the next day, but oscar would take it a million times over for morris’s sake. when the newsies start wisecracking about oscar’s fresh cuts and bruises at distribution, morris starts beating on whichever of those loudmouths he can get his hands on until the whole lot of them have nothing more to laugh at.
the delancey brothers have each other’s backs at all fucking costs.
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emmedoesntdomath · 11 months
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emme i am in need of assistance.
i need to be dragged kicking and screaming back into the newsies fandom, please and thank you
you know what? fine, sure, let’s do this. 
in this fun little drag-you-by-your-ears-and-force-you-to-listen-to-me, we’ll be talking about javey. 
obviously, javey is the lifeblood behind most of this lovely fandom. look at your own account. besides the synchronized dance numbers, it’s about the most the majority of us agree on (with a few exceptions, but we love them anyway <3333 /j)
but why is javey such a phenomenon to us? why is it that big of a deal? let’s explore that. 
javey is, in simple terms, something that can quickly become revolutionary. 
don’t understand what I mean? consider it-
most of us headcanon jack to be a person of color. whether he’s black, or of latinx descent, jack is not normally white. in a lot of cases, people don’t even believe english to be his first language. with these very intentional choices, you are already taking marginalized groups, and giving them a voice. groups, that for most of history, have been shunned, or outright ignored. and to see jack kelly, a character not defined by his parentage or skin color, simply *living*. making choices, mistakes, wrong decisions, without being turned into a performative political message by a major corporation. he’s just jack kelly. and his existence speaks louder than words ever could. 
and all of this can be said before we even mention what else he could represent, could mean to all of us. 
he’s a kid from the streets, or the more modernized foster care. he’s not the sad, lonely, discouraged orphan kid that needs saving. no, jack kelly is going to get off his ass, and do it himself. he’ll run away. earn a living. he is our defiance, he is our rebellion and independence. 
he has dreams, big ones. ones that we relate to. he wants to run to santa fe? well, guess fucking what? we do, too. wants to be given a little respect, a little worth? maybe we relate to that. 
he is the poster child of found family. and I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we’re all pretty big on that in this fandom. 
so, let’s put it this way- jack is a lot of us. most of us, maybe. 
but so is davey. 
davey is a canonically (or maybe not, but I say it’s canon) jewish character. in a world that reeks of antisemitism, that is ridiculously important. he, too, represents more than just himself. there is a whole history of a people hated and brutally punished for simply existing. he is another character who isn’t restricted, forced to be but yet another stereotype or one-note idea, but who just exists. you don’t realize how huge that is. representation and the explicitness of modern media is great, and very much needed. but it is just as powerful, if not more so, to let a character be without making it a display. 
to compound this all, he is the epitome of religious struggles. our davey has internalized homophobia, self-hatred, and more crises in faith than he has time to count. and I would say at least half of the people that I have met in this fandom can identify with one or more of those things. that’s valuable. especially when you consider that a lot of those things are essentially taboo in a number of regards. 
he’s from a working class family. he’s not rich, not swimming in bills. he’s missing school every day to go to work so his family might eat the next week. and that’s a reality for a lot of people. 
putting them together, we have- a man, a person of color, who has seen the shit end of life that a lot of other people do, falling in love with another man, one burdened with mental struggles and a heritage that carries just as much weight as the heaviest, in a time period when it was literally illegal to do so. 
they are people. they are representations. they are silent messages to the world. they are love. they are queer. they are happy. they are a family. they are revolutionary. they aren’t wrong. they aren’t broken. they aren’t hate. 
javey thrives because they are us, and by letting them thrive, we are hoping we will, too. 
(newsies, with more layers and deeper meanings than one could have ever hoped for since 1234)
ta da. 
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meggie-stardust · 1 month
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20 Questions for Fic Writers
Thanks to the ever lovely @lucky-bishop for the tag! <3
How many works do you have on ao3?
74! Which feels both like a lot and not that much at the same time.
What's your total ao3 word count?
270,119?!
What fandoms do you write for?
Right now primarily Teen Wolf and I recently revisited my first fandom of Gundam Wing. I've also written a ton for BBC Merlin, Percy Jackson/Heroes Of Olympus, BBC Sherlock, Harry Potter, Newsies and random other things...
Top five fics by kudos:
Act of Man | BBC Merlin | Arthur/Merlin
Nightmares | PJO/HoO | Percy/Jason
Looking for the Thing We Lost | Teen Wolf | Peter/Stiles
Here I Am (Stuck in the Middle With You) | PJO/HoH | Percy/Jason
Know How A Man Becomes a Beast | Teen Wolf | Peter/Stiles
Do you respond to comments?
Yes, on all of my stuff from the past few years. There are older fics that I've opted not to respond to comments on for varying reasons, but I do read them all.
What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
When I have angst, I like to have it with a happy ending, but I would probably say this fliclette I wrote based on the prompt: "Can you do a Jasercy fic where Jason is trying to comprehend the fact that Percy's gone, preferably death, but it doesn't have to be."
A Slow Deep Panic | PJO/HoO | Jason/Percy
What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
I really like the end of Stuck Between Stations. After putting Stiles and Peter in the Wild Hunt and in time loop, the least I could do was give them a happy ending.
Do you get hate on fics?
Not hate, but I have gotten weird comments. I usually just ignore if they are just odd, but I have also deleted comments that are boarding on hate.
Do you write smut?
Yep!
Craziest crossover:
Aside from one HP/Sherlock fic that was co-written with my bestie and that we both abandoned, I don't really do long form crossovers (and that one wasn't crazy anyway). That said, there was a tumblr prompt game years ago, that was for 3 sentence fics and almost every prompt I got was a crazy crossover:
Dean and Castiel. Fight Club
MJN crew (bonus points for including Herc Shipwright). Supernatural hunters.
Sherlock/John. Teenagers working at Mooby's (View Askewniverse).
Jack/Spot, Night Vale AU.
Arthur and Eames. Exorcism.
You can read all of these and a few others: 3 Sentence Fic Collection. And actually, this was a fun trend, we should bring it back.
Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Not that I'm aware of, and knock on wood it never happens.
Have you ever had a fic translated?
Yes! A few actually, and it's always so, so, so flattering:
Acts of Man was translated into Chinese
Black Sails in the Sunset was translated into Português
Looking for the Thing We Lost was translated into Russian
This is a perfect time to say that I am always open to my fics being translated, podficced, remixed, etc. Just let me know so I can gush about it!
Have you ever co-written a fic before?
Yes, the aforementioned abandoned HP/Sherlock fic, but it's been ages. @punchedbymarkesmith and I have kicked around some collab ideas, which I think would both be a blast and also for a potentially niche audience. Maybe 2024 is the year this happens!
All time favourite ship?
Steter is the one I've stuck with the longest, but I do have a few that I will always return to in the same way you might eat a comfort meal.
What's a wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will?
Look, I really, really want to finish It's Only Forever. I have like 1, maybe 2 chapters left. But it's been so long and I feel like my writing has changed, and idk. Every year I say I'm going to work on it, and every year I don't... le sigh.
What are your writing strengths?
I think I'm really good at finding a small moment in canon and then diverging from that. I also think I'm good at authentic dialogue and I think I'm pretty good at world building.
What are your writing weaknesses?
Action/fighting. Keeping things short unless it's a drabble/other restrictive format.
Thoughts on dialogue in another language?
I am not fluent enough in any language other than English to do this confidently. Instead, I would write something like:
Stiles cursed at them wildly in Polish.
or
Peter responded in French, then turned back to Stiles and resumed their conversation in English.
First fandom you wrote in?
Gundam Wing. All of my old fic from *cough* 20+ years ago is lost to the annals of time (actually some is still on archived GW 1x2 sites if you look hard enough). And if you are one of like 7 people who remember my username, you can find my Newsies and Harry Potter fic (my next two fandoms) still on ffn. After I got out of a bad relationship that kept me from my own interests, including fandom, I returned with BBC Sherlock fic, which you can still find on AO3 if you scroll to the beginning of my profile.
Favorite fic you've written?
Gosh, I feel like this changes all the time, but I am particularly proud of At This Truth We Have Arrived. I loved exploring certain aspects of Peter's character, and doing a different take on Nogistune Stiles. I was also able to incorporate a lot of different themes and elements into it, as well as get my own closure with Monroe, something that has bugged me since the finale. Plus, I think I was able to accomplish a reveal that would add extra elements if anyone went back and re-read the story (even if I somewhat show my hand if anyone paid attention to the epigraph).
I have no idea who has done this yet, since I sat on this for a bit... so no pressure tags for @lolahardy @mirrorthoughts @myletternevercame @punchedbymarkesmith @midmorning-bomb @like-lazarus
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loving-jack-kelly · 1 year
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I love Jack Kelly so much and so I adore your posts. so curious on how you feel about some in the fandom treating Jack like a villain because of his ‘betrayal’ and don’t think his reasoning is ‘good enough’? it irritates me to no end because they have no idea who Jack is.
oh anon this is one of my favorite things to talk about how did you know?
the thing is. this is addressed specifically in the show. So Jack, an escaped "criminal" and homeless orphan who is also the leader/protector of a gang of other homeless orphans, gets put in an impossible position. "cowboy or convict [Pulitzer] wins either way." he has two options when he chooses to "betray" the strike:
option one: take the money, do his best to stop the strike from continuing, and run away from the only home he's ever known to a dream he knows probably won't ever be reality (and let's be real here, Jack is a dreamer but he isn't stupid. he knows that Sante Fe will never be all it is in his head but he clings to that hope because he's idealistic, knowing full well it's not gonna work the way he wishes it would if he ever does make it out). taking option one means breaking the trust of the people he's looking out for, but it also means they're safe. the strike is over, they stop getting beat up, they still have work and therefore won't starve.
option two: refuse the money, let Snyder take him to the Refuge, and let the strike continue knowing full well that Pulitzer can and will ensure that all of the people he cares about are locked up, too. including Davey and Les, who have so much more to lose comparatively because they're not homeless orphans, they have a home and a family. Pulizter is directly threatening all of the people Jack loves, and Jack knows he'll make good on it, and Jack knows how bad the Refuge is.
so for Jack, this boils down to a simple choice: protect them, or let them get hurt. and for Jack, that's a non-choice
everything that Jack does is filtered through this lens of selflessness that borders on self-destruction. the end justifies the means as long as the end is that everyone he loves is safe and cared for. he will provoke a fight with the delanceys if it means nobody else gets hit. he will let all of them think he's betraying them if it means they're safe. who cares if they hate him as long as they're alive and out of the Refuge?
you can see it in that scene. he comes in confident and guns blazing, and doesn't change his mind at all until Pulitzer brings the other newsies into it. he doesn't care if he gets hurt. he knows that a strike is dangerous, and as long as Pulizter is focused on him, who cares? he's fighting for the most important thing in the world, his kids. but when Pulizter is threatening his kids, and the choice is lose them or let them get hurt. well. who cares if he's happy, as long as they're safe? who cares if Santa Fe has always been a pipe dream that he had no real intention of following, he'll survive. he'll be fine. they'll be fine. and that's what matters.
and listen. if jack had really intended on running to Santa Fe, he would have already done it. why didn't he hop a train? why is he so insistent on paying for a ticket? to me, it screams more of that idealism. will he ever realistically be able to save enough to get there? no. and that's part of the comfort of the dream: as long as it isn't real, it can't disappoint him (just be real is all I'm asking, not some painting in my head, 'cause I'm dead if I can't count on you today. I got nothing if I ain't got Santa Fe. how much more scared of Santa Fe disappointing him than staying here is he? i bet a lot. he needs the dream to be perfect).
but of course he chooses to protect his kids because that's what he does. that's what he's always done. that's why he's their leader. he refuses to let them get left behind, he refuses to see them hurt, and he will let them think the worst of him if it means at least they're safe.
on the rooftop, katherine says "I need to know you didn't cave for the money" and Jack says no almost dismissively because of course he didn't. obviously he didn't. Jack who tried to refuse payment from Medda because why should somebody who cares for him need to pay him? Jack who drops two bits, half a day's profit, on somebody he just met? Jack who only started this whole thing in the first place because he knows how bad it will be for the kids who don't move as many papers as him? please. why would he cave for the money? and Katherine was there, she heard Pulitzer threaten the other kids, she should know this.
and then at the end. the strike settled, jack should probably be hitting the road, right? because how could they want him to stay, now that he's betrayed them? except he didn't, and they know he didn't, now that they know what happened. he didn't do it for the money, and he never would have. he only did it because it was the only way he could protect everyone.
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pigeonwit · 2 months
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I AM ASKING YOU ABOUT RACEVID (or RAVEY, or whatever it is the kids call it wbwbwb) !!!!
(i got one nice ask about it so i'm digging out this half-a-year old draft to talk about my personal racevid hcs that i cringe-cultured myself out of posting, take it away pidge-from-six-months-ago)
i honestly wasn't expecting this much racevid support. on my old newsies blog way back i made posts about these guys and they typically only got like. 3 notes? granted my writing wasn't as good so maybe i'm persuading people. or maybe the newsies fandom is finally waking up to the wonderful possibilities of multishipping. one of the two.
part two of the racevid analysis!! this one is less of an analysis of how they behave in the musical and more my own personal headcanons of their relationship and how it develops. part one (a very unpolished and rambley analysis of racevid in uksies) is here if anyone's curious!
right. so. it's act 2. jack publicly denounced and betrayed the strike. race leaves with davey, both in shame over being betrayed by (to race) the brother he grew up with and trusted more than anyone and (to davey) the guy he didn't even want to trust in the first place, but still put his faith in despite knowing better. the next day jack comes BACK, asking them both to trust him again. what would you do.
i'm of the firm belief that race only came back to the strike because davey agreed to come back, too. i don't think either of them necessarily FORGAVE jack in that moment - it'd only been a day and while we as the audience understand why jack (a frightened seventeen year old with little to no prospects or power) did what he did, we can also understand why it stung so deeply for them to be betrayed by someone they put so much faith in. especially davey - like i said in part 1, i believe davey has feelings for jack in every universe, and for him to not only trust, but fall in love with someone despite knowing better, only for it to come back and bite him (the way he KNEW it would but convinced himself otherwise) would be a humiliation that runs deep for him. but davey believes in doing the right thing, and as much as jack hurt him, he still trusts him to do what's right, too. that's another one of those strange mirrored-similarities race and davey have - davey loves so intensely that he still has faith in the good of a person, even when he believes that that person isn't good to him. race loves so intensely that if you burn the bridge you have with him, he will do everything he can to keep it from getting rebuilt.
i know both of them would forgive jack eventually. for davey, jack's family. you fight with family, you disagree, you throw things and scream in each other's faces, but you do that because you love each other and want what's best. so as long as jack's willing to put the work in, davey is, too, and he can still be mad at jack and not willing to forgive him yet while still loving him. i think race is a different story, though, especially JPB's race, who i think has a lot more grit, anger and seriousness to him than other race's. race has been with jack for years, they've grown together, talked together, maybe he hasn't always been perfect, but if jack was so scared, why he couldn't he just talk to him?! i personally view race as a kid who was very overlooked by his family (i saw that 'race has like 12 cousins in brooklyn' thing someone said and ran with it, so in my head he comes from a BIIIIG big catholic family) and so he takes it quite personally when people ignore him. in his head, jack not trusting him enough with his fears is saying he doesn't trust race the way race trusts him, doesn't see him as family the way race sees him like a brother. and i think race's response to this (in his own mentally ill 'i love you so much that i hate you for it' way) is to push him away. he's looking for reasons to resent jack here - and i think a big one of those reasons is davey.
for context; like i said in part one, my personal Racevid Story is that after the rally failure, race - being person who's used to the temporary nature of pleasure, and so grabs hold of any vice he can without thinking (gambling, smoking, fighting, etc) - would've impulsively kissed davey as a sort of 'please stay, i need help, please don't leave me in this mess alone' gesture. but i think davey is so used to shoving down his feelings and pretending he's fine that he would've gotten freaked out by the sudden notion that maybe race is attracted to him. he's barely got a handle on his feelings for jack, he's alone and scared and has no one to talk to, and now race is here, KISSING him, and it's all wonderful and confusing and TERRIFYING and he can't deal with it right now. so i think they would've just stopped, stared at each other, mumbled some kind of excuse and let themselves be dragged to their own responsibilities - race to the newsies, davey to his family, and neither of them having the nerve to actually understand what they want, because that would mean being vulnerable enough to want something.
i think jack coming back and davey immediately trusting him (despite knowing better) is going to make race angry for two reasons; first of all, like i said two paragraphs ago (fuck i'm rambling so much here) i think race would be looking for reasons to resent jack for what he did (again, coming from a very teenagery 'i love you so much i hate you for it' place), and second, i think it's also a source of jealousy for him. davey BARELY knew jack and still gave him everything. davey had no reason to trust any of them and he still did. davey could've thrown race away immediately, but he still made the effort to see him, so how dare jack cast that aside in favour of a daydream? (again, this isn't a jack criticism - this is just how i think race views the situation.) race (to me) is not used to people seeing him, certainly not used to people making an EFFORT to see him and take him seriously, and davey gave him all of that without him even needing to ask for it - and now race has messed that up and davey isn't talking to him, which he probably deserves, but jack messed up too!! why does JACK get to keep being seen? doesn't race deserve it, too? (again, i really think race's family overlooked him a lot and that's why he tries so hard to be such a commanding presence and keep peoples attention, because it hurts so much when other people are allowed attention so freely and he isn't.)
i don't buy in to davey being a mom-friend who wants to solve all his friends problems for them. i did shit like that when i was younger, and honestly i still do, and i just don't think that after the strike and all that he learned about himself, davey would fall into assuming that the only value he has is to fix things for everyone else (i mean, i do still think davey would have some issues to work out after the strike, hence 'run boy run', but not this specific issue). but i do think davey is very protective over the people he loves, and i think this rift between jack and race is affecting him, too. i think maybe the topic of jack comes up, and he tries getting race to talk more about it. when race refuses to talk, davey - finally - brings up the kiss.
this is entering fanfiction territory so im not gonna try to write out dialogue here or anything. i think itd be another example of them fumbling for a way to reach one another. neither one is used to speaking the others language, so to speak. i think race would feel especially humiliated given the turbulent situation, and i think davey would be struggling so much to find the 'right' words that he'd become defensive and panicky. and i think that would all bubble up into davey just blurting out something of the lines of 'i trust you'. and i think that'd be the thing that connects for them. not just being liked, but being seen for all their flaws and difficulties and being trusted anyways. i think that'd be the trigger for davey bullying race into finally talking to jack about what happened, race coming back to the strike, and the two of them entering a slow, tentative relationship that, as their dynamic in the show does, grows much steadier with time.
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Hello one and all! You can call me Starlight! I just felt that I should write an introduction for my account just because! But anyway, I'm a big fan of a lot of things but mainly focusing on The Outsiders and Newsies right now. My Lackadaisy OCs (with @ollenotter27) are now mainly on our other blog (@abootleggerstale-webcomic) My PJO ocs will be posted about here and there but that fanfic isn't what I'm focusing on rn.
If you guys don't want to scroll through my reblogs just search original content on my blog :) I probably have titled it something like my stuff but I realized that halfway through tagging
Pronouns-She/her
DNI IF
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You are just really creepy and say weird stuff
Make super hateful comments to me or other people
You want me to write NSFW stuff
DO NOT FLIRT WITH ME OR ANYTHING!!!! IM A MINOR AND YOU WILL GET BLOCKED!!! DONT CARE IF YOU'RE JOKING, YOU'RE GETTING BLOCKED AND REPORTED
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(I AM A MINOR (NOT REVEALING SPECIFIC AGE THOUGH)
I will also write little stories if you ask for one on a certain subject :) (PJO x you, The Outsiders, Lackadaisy, etc)
First Chapter of Night, Laughter, and a Sword
(Sorry for any inaccuracies with my PJO fanfic!!! I haven't read all the books and I don't always check over my drafts for inaccuracies)
I don't write anything NSFW or inappropriate subjects so don't ask about those things. But I will love any asks you send me as me and my friend work on our webcomic!
None of my ocs are self-inserts, not that anything is wrong with that but they are indeed completely their own! Also, a lot of them are oc x Canon, that's because I really like writing relationships :)
My fandoms include
Lackadaisy, The Outsiders, Newsies, Spiderverse, Stardew Valley, Percy Jackson, A lot of musicals
Asks open for
All Lackadaisy OCs
LC Kovac, Jean Kovac, Roger Haugen, Dakari Khouri, etc. (You can find other characters through out webcomic @abootleggerstale-webcomic)
All PJO OCS
Tallulah LaFlamme, Alexandria Fleet, Lou-Ann Hansley, Mae Spade, Kay Thatcher, Etc.
ALL APPALACHIAN 8 OCS
Natalia, Zoiee, Nathaniel, Charlie, etc.
ALL OUTSIDERS OCS
Cynthia, Joey, Rosemary, Tessa
My only Newsies oc
Dally/Dahlia Delancey
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Okay, I'm basically just gonna give you the smallest rundown of all (most, my favourites) my soc one shots. Unfortunately, I can't get links right now (crying, technology hates me 😭😭)
How to get a Tired Demo Expert to Sleep: My FIRST work in the fandom. Domestic fluff, some tired Wylan and caring Jesper, we love to see it
Putting a Label on It: Set after s2ep8. Very cute fluff, lil picnic date and some nervous Jesper
Starlight: My FAVOURITE work I've done. Over 5k words (I think). Took two hours to write. Bit of fake dating, some random mercher world building, healthy doses of pining on both sides, Wylan 👏 in 👏 mercher 👏 black 👏
Something to Stay For: If you know Newsies, you'll be as obsessed with this fic as I was writing it. Basically Something to Believe In. But of angst, bit of fighting but it all works out in the end
Line Without a Hook: Based on a drawing by @simplydifficultme. Mermaid Jesper, fisherman Wylan. We get a little Kaz and Wylan brotherly bonding and some trans Wylan, as a treat. Also contains one of my favourite OCs I ever made
(you can also read inlaid with stars if you want. Tangled au and my first long fic in the fandom)
Run wild, bestie!!!
Oooo okay okay 👀
Putting a read more for the sake of people going through my blog. I'm about to type a lot.
I love that please 😭 Honestly Jesper and Wylan comfort/domestic fics just hit different. They're so good.
Omg I do love the idea of Wylan in Mercher black. Unfortunately I have not watched the show yet (waiting for my bestie to finish six of crows) but I watch a lot of clips/interviews and I've seen the first few episodes. I do know about s2 ep8 though so I get the context 😂 I'm so picky about reading fanfiction from the show though I'm so sorry for some reason I just really dislike when the characters are written as looking like the actors I DON'T KNOW WHY HELP ME. I don't mind show canon though and I will definitely check it out and let you know if I finish it 😂😅. I'm sure it's amazing<3
Angst and happy ending you say 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 And no I don't know that show(?) But I'm sure the fic is perfectly understandable without knowing it as with most AUs 😌.
MERMAN AU?????? 👀👀👀👀👀 Love Kaz and Wylan bonding 😌✨. I don't headcanon Wylan as trans but I respect the HC itself. I just didn't read him that way so when I first saw that I was like wait a minute 😂 That is interesting though I've never read a fic with that HC soooo 👀. Asdfghjkl stop OCe can be the perfect touch to fics if they're done right. I'll send you some asks about them if I read it 👀. I'm assuming it's a chapter fic????
Ooo ooo I saw that I'm most excited for that one I LOVE the idea 👀👀👀👀✨✨✨✨
Thank you I will 😌🤗
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Fic Tag Game!!
How many works do you have on AO3?
25!
What’s your AO3 word count?
109,751
What fandoms do you write for?
Star Wars (haven't in a while tho), Wednesday, and I used to write for Hamilton. I also have a single fic for ATLA and Daredevil, and I'm currently writing a few fics for The Phantom of the Opera, HTTYD, Freelancers, and several other fandoms I can't remember ATM (I have that many WIPs LOL)
What are your top 5 fics by kudos?
The Valentine's Day Curse (Wednesday)
"send your cutest delivery boy" (special instructions, Tyler's POV) (Wednesday) (which was based on the fic by @cosmic-lullaby!)
wet face towels (Wednesday)
can I have this dance? (Wednesday)
My Halloween Angel (Wednesday)
Do you respond to comments?
I do!! I try to respond to every single one of them, though I'm a little backlogged rn LOL
What’s the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
I think it would have to either be stupid, stupid cartoon (Wednesday. Basically a what if Tyler died, and how would Donovan react?), or The Bonds of Lycanthropy (a Hamilton AU where he turns into a werewolf LOL)
What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
I think a lot of my fics end pretty happy, but I think one of the happiest ones is Angels In Hell's Kitchen (Daredevil. About Matt Murdock having a good day for once).
Do you get hate on fics?
Thankfully no! And I'm praying it stays that way 😅🙏
Do you write smut? What kind?
Nope. And I never will 😅 makes me much too uncomfortable (I never read it either). Both because that's just how I am personally and for religious reasons. But I do love writing wholesome romance!
Do you write cross-overs?
I do! I only posted one tho, and that was literally the first fic I ever wrote 😭 it was a crossover between Newsies and In the Heights, where Jack and Usnavi run away from New York. I do have several crossover WIPs though!! Including but not limited to: a Narnia/The Hobbit crossover, a Narnia/His Dark Materials crossover, a HTTYD/Wings of Fire crossover, and a Daredevil/Batman crossover!
Have you ever had a fic translated?
I can't remember, but I think it's possible I have before? When my main site was still Fanfiction.net?
Have you ever co-written a fic before?
I have!! But they aren't done yet 😭 but I'm writing them with @the-old-fashioned-girl! It's the Daredevil/Batman crossover, as well as a Hamilton fic!
What WIP would you like to finish but doubt you ever will?
Oh gosh, I don't want to ever think I'll NEVER finish a WIP, don't do that to me! I wanna say I'll finish all of the ones I want to finish eventually!!
What’s your all-time favorite ship?
Oh goodness, that's hard... probably Hiccstrid, Raoulstine, Silverparry, and Wyler!
What are your writing strengths?
I'm a pretty fast writer, I think. When I finally sit down and set my mind to it, I can easily get out a thousand+ words!
What are your writing weaknesses?
EDITING MY BELOATHED. And actually sitting down and starting to write...
Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?
I think it's really cool when done well!! I've done it for Lafayette in some Hamilton fics, and I want to try using Tagalog in another fic someday! I'm also using sign language for my Deaf!Raoul AU!
First fandom you wrote for?
Like, wrote for, or actually posted? Because wrote for in general, it might be Ninjago but I never posted it. But published, Newsies and In The Heights LOL. But the one I posted frequently for first was Hamilton.
Favorite fic you’ve ever written?
Dang, that's hard. Possibly Talking To The Moon (Avatar: The Last Airbender)! I like how I tackled both Toph and Sokka in it :DD
No Pressure Tags!!: @rainintheevening, @clawedandcute, @darling-gemini, @chaotic-bumblebee-agenda, @mrgartist, @catkin-morgs-kookaburralover, @wednesdayandherhyde, @thee-antler-queen, @broken-everlark, @incomingalbatross and @muse-write!
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My beloved @roseszirnheld tagged me in this a while back, and I am 80% sure that I've done this before, but I can't immediately find it so I am doing it again. and tagging it properly this time.
1. How many works do you have on ao3?
63 currently
2. What's your total ao3 word count?
173,322
3. What fandoms do you write for?
Most recently, SAS: Rogue Heroes, The Pacific, The Terror, Justified and Masters of the Air, but I also have things on the go for Band of Brothers and Dragon Age and every year I do Yuletide, which has had me writing The Alienist, Sharpe, Exandria Unlimited, Dunkirk, From... etc. What I'm saying is that I flit.
4. Top five fics by kudos
I Relied Upon the Moon (Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens), Poe/Finn - 6,380 kudos
Thunder Rolled a Six (Ready or Not), Grace gen fic - 234 kudos
Fairytale of Staten Island (Law & Order: SVU), Barba/Carisi - 131 kudos
somewhile before the dawn (SAS: Rogue Heroes), Paddy/Eoin - 101 kudos
to be where i'm going (Masters of the Air), Ken/Rosie - 75 kudos
5. Do you respond to comments?
Yep! Sometimes it takes me a little while, but that's exactly the same as like, all my friends know about texting me.
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
bay and violets (SAS: Rogue Heroes) is probably one of the angstiest, it's a Paddy/Eoin soulmate fic that's, uh, pretty canon compliant. The Paddy/Eoin hanahaki also probably qualifies. OH, or stars, i have seen them fall (SAS: Rogue Heroes), which... is... also... Paddy/Eoin.
7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
I like happy endings, or at least hopeful ones! I Relied Upon the Moon is definitely a happy fic, So I Picked On You (Mass Effect) which is my beloved Diana Allers/Kaidan Alenko fic, is happy rebuilding fic and I love that.
8. Do you get hate on fics?
I've been around a long time, it's happened. Touch wood, nothing particularly recent.
9. Do you write smut?
I have written smut, it's not the area I feel most comfortable writing (the Mike Sadler Gets His Fuck On series notwithstanding), so I don't tend to do it all that much.
10. Craziest crossover?
No crazy stuff on my Ao3 right now, but I've written a few in the past. There used to be a comm on LJ that would give you random pairings to write for, through which I've definitely written wild things. IIRC, there was a Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Master and Commander crossover at one point.
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Years ago.
12. Have you ever had a fic translated?
Not to my knowledge.
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before?
Not since I was a teen. I've done a couple collabs with artists, but it's not my favourite working space.
14. All time favorite ship?
Impossible, I love all my ships. Very soft spot for Paddy/Don, Diana/Kaidan and Hodgson/Pilkington, but I love them all.
15. What's a wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will?
I. Will. Finish. All. Of. Them.
16. What are your writing strengths?
Paddy Mayne.
More seriously, I like fucking with language and atmosphere a lot, which definitely helps writing Paddy Mayne, which is probably why I like to write him so much. I also think I'm quite good at working out relationship dynamics and finding the core of how folks relate to each other.
17. What are your writing weaknesses?
I can be a little impatient with plot, so sometimes pacing I struggle with. I'm working on this this year with developing outlining methods.
18. Thoughts on dialogue in another language?
I do it relatively regularly. If it's a long chunk, I'll usually provide a translation, but mostly I don't worry about it. Also I will sometimes mark that the dialogue is being spoken in another language, but write it in English. As an exception, I am translating all the Dalish for the SASRH/Dragon Age fics, and will with any other fictional language, but that's a lot harder to figure out/google.
19. First fandom you wrote in?
Oooh, I don't know. The Mighty Ducks? Newsies? We're talking like, 25 years ago. I can't remember that long.
20. Favorite fic you've written?
Of the things currently on my Ao3, come now, and I'll show you what I keep is one of my favourite Paddy/Eoin fics, it's an odd little story based on the fairytale written by an Irish author, Thomas Keightley, in which Paddy is a Merrow and Eoin is a fisherman. Otherwise, my current big WIP, the Don/Paddy series, every line in your palm is bringing me constant joy.
Tagging with no pressure, @upontherisers, @emilykaldwen @dukesoakedoats @ginabaker1666
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blurglesmurfklaine · 8 months
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20 Questions For Fic Writers
gonna unofficially thank @forabeatofadrum for this tag bc she said whoever wanted to do it and I wanted to so here it be!
1. How many works do you have on AO3?
49??? What when how did that happen??
2. What’s your total AO3 word count?
706,964 woah so not quite a million but uh I have shit to say apparently
3. What fandoms do you write for?
46 of the 49 fics are glee lmaooo, two are Newsies and one is Roswell, New Mexico! I anticipate more Newsies (Javid) fics to come because I’m obsessed
4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos?
There From The Start
Cornelia Street
Here We Go Again
An Honest Man
If Music Be
All for Glee: Klaine!
5. Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?
I try to respond to as many as I can, but I usually forget lol. If someone leaves an insightful comment though it will usually spur a long conversation in the comments and I LOVE IT
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
If The World Was Ending bc they uh :) die, technically speaking
7. What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
Uhhhh probably every other one??? I really don’t like sad endings so most have a happy ending, but i actually really like the ending to Stick Season because despite it being so terribly emotional and angsty, I feel like the ending is a turnaround and really hopeful!
8. Do you get hate on fics?
Not really? A few annoying comments telling me characters wouldn’t act this way, and one asking me “where my creativity was” which rubbed me the wrong way but I try to focus on the positive ones! Those definitely linger in my mind longer 💞
9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind?
Don’t look at me. Yes. Sometimes. Idk man sometimes those dudes just need to fuck it out???? But I usually only write it if the story feels like it’s naturally going there. It’s never really porn for porn’s sake (for clarification there’s nothing wrong with that we all love a little pwp), it’s usually the sappy emotional kind that’s mostly feelings and vague descriptions. it’s definitely not my forte and something I still get a little embarrassed and self conchas about lmao
10. Do you write crossovers? What’s the craziest one you’ve written?
Not recently but I did have a Supernatural/Glee crossover a few years ago (shut up I was 16) and honestly it was loads of fun! Blaine was the child of that Gay Angel and Repressed Bisexual Man. Absolutely a slay
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen?
I don’t think so? But a few old ones from my fanfiction dot net page ended up on one of those search engine thingies??? Idk how to explain it or how to take it down but honestly… I have bigger problems lol
12. Have you ever had a fic translated?
No but if anyone ever wants to let me know!!! It would make me so happy!
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before?
Yeah! Quite a few actually. I usually do the franken-fic every year and I did the roulette challenge and that m aforementioned crossover was actually a collab! Some of my favorite memories was writing the final chapter of A Night At The Ryerson House with @esperantoauthor 💞
14. What’s your all time favourite ship?
OOF. Okay so. With 46 fics on AO3 you could say Klaine has a special place in my heart, buuuuuuut…….. my best friend introduced me to newsies in April and I seriously think it did something to my brain chemistry because Jack and Davey own my entire ass
15. What’s a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will?
Ugh. I’m so fearful that I’ll never finish Amidst The Chaos, which I LOVE but takes so much out of me. There’s also one I’ve never posted called “Strangers Again” that involves like timeline jumping but in a romcom way that I’m not sure how to go about??? Also the community college one. I have so many.
For Javey I tried writing that Spider-Man AU but like. I need to re do the entire first chapter. I absolutely hate it actually and I think it’s because I don’t have a clear vision of what exactly I want, but I know what I DO NOT want????
16. What are your writing strengths?
Uhhhhhhhhhhh I’m actually not sure entirely? I’m gonna go with dialogue bc that’s usually how scenes come to me first.
17. What are your writing weaknesses?
Scenery/setting/sensory, world building, plot points, physical movement holy fuck do not get me started when That Guy has to move Across The Room AHHHHHH I wanna tear my face off
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic?
Love it! In my brain Jack Kelly is Mexican because I love to project, and I’ve got a wip where Blaine is involved in a Hispanic community (no he’s mot Hispanic he’s just got a Mexican friend who is an old lady and also Catholicism is involved it’s a lot to explain okay go with it) so I like to use it, but only in a way that feels natural to ME based on MY experiences. Different people have different approaches!
19. First fandom you wrote for?
Glee!
20. Favorite fic you’ve written?
Oof. This one is hard but I think it’s an even tie between Here We Go Again and If Music Be!
Tagging: @somefeministtheatrepls @somanywords @justgleekout @kurtsascot and anyone else who wants to try!
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