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aingeal98 · 2 months
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Agents of shield is fundementally the story of two morally ambiguous jaded spies in their 50s unofficially adopting a 20 something year old girl doomed to tragedy who's never had unconditional love her entire life. And they swear to stand by her no matter what and the universe says Wanna Bet? and throws unspeakable horrors at them for seven long seasons. They can't protect the girl, can't stop her from getting hurt the way they did when they were her age. But at the end of it all they can stand by her. She can destroy the world she can push them all away one of them can literally die the way everyone she loves does sooner or later and they'll still be there. Seven seasons and multiple deaths later they're not going to stop loving and supporting her. That's their kid and she's a superhero and the best thing to ever happen to their shady spy organisation. And they're so damn proud.
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meenawrites · 6 months
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Seo Yul Deep Dive - Part 1
Well, since my class ended early and I have 20 min to kill, why not.
SO Seo Yul.
First off, I think he's a fantastic second male lead, specifically because he's more complex than just being a secondary love interest to bring drama to the main couple. He's not at all, in fact he's the opposite of that.
Seo Yul is everything all the adults wanted Jang Uk to be in terms of obedience, principles, and morals. He is upright with a strict moral compass, obedient to his elders, and is prone to agonizing over what the right thing to do is, especially once Naksu enters the picture.
He is the foil against which Jang Uk is being measured.
It would have been quite easy and probably acceptable to just make him one dimensional and have him be there mainly to pursue Naksu and be another obstacle in the way of our main couple, but they didn't do that AT ALL! And I'm glad they didn't. In fact, Seo Yul is one of Jang Uk's dearest friends and he cares about him a lot and vice versa continuously throughout the run of the show.
Seo Yul's love for Naksu, or lingering love from his romanticized memories of his time in Danhyangeok serve to further Seo Yul's own character development as well as highlight just why Jang Uk is actually a better romantic partner for Naksu.
The way they love her is very different. I'm not trying to discount Seo Yul's love for Naksu in any way, I think he definitely does and did love her, but he is someone who is incredibly committed to his principles and to following the rules; it's just how he's constructed himself across his life. So Naksu's very existence throws him completely off balance. On the one hand, he's so glad the girl he once loved and thought would never see again is alive. On the other hand, everything he's been taught and everything he believes in is screaming at him to kill her, that her existence as a soul shifter is not right and cannot be allowed to continue. Yet she is also giving his best friend, Jang Uk, everything he's ever wanted–she is making him HAPPY. So Seo Yul is just kind of going back and forth in his agony over what to do. He feels a great sense of responsibility because he believed he was the only one who knew her identity for a while, and he's generally relied on by the adults in his life like Park Jin and Heo Yeom to kind of be their sword and do the right thing.
Jang Uk on the other hand (as I've seen described in a post somewhere) is more loyal to people than he is to principles, whereas Seo Yul leans a bit more towards the opposite.
So for Jang Uk, he's willing to bend his morals or defy what everyone around him says is wrong out of loyalty to the people he cares about, and Naksu quickly becomes one of those people to him. Like she tells him, everyone has always wanted her dead; no one has ever actually attempted to save her. And I think that strikes deep into Jang Uk's heart and he makes a decision very early on that he will be the one to protect her, and he accepts any collateral damage that comes with it.
Where Seo Yul is sitting and agonizing over the principle of Naksu's existence, all Jang Uk is thinking is how he's going to protect her and keep her by his side. There's no question in his mind, no moral quandary about it. He is as loyal to her as he is to Seo Yul or Park Danggu, or Maidservant Kim–some of the most important people in his life.
In essence, Jang Uk is the type of male lead who would let the world burn for the person he loves while Seo Yul would be willing to make the sacrifice if it meant saving the world.
I don't know if either is necessarily better as an attitude, and I don't feel qualified to comment on that. But Jang Uk's attitude is why he is better of a romantic partner for Naksu, because she needs someone like that, to feel like someone will love her to such an extent. She's been betrayed and discarded and used so many times across her life that she needs and wants that kind of unconditional love–chosen unconditional love, I should say. Because Jang Uk CHOOSES to be loyal to her no matter what.
This stark difference between Jang Uk and Seo Yul really comes to a head in the conversation they have (can't remember the episode) that goes something like this:
Seo Yul: We have a duty to protect the world from monsters. [referencing soul shifters and citing what he's been told his whole life]
Jang Uk: But we can also protect the monsters from the world.
I'm totally paraphrasing because I don't have time to go look up the quote, but yeah.
Underlying this conversation, they're both really talking about Naksu, but I'm not sure how aware both of them are that are each referencing her.
This continues on later, once Seo Yul has kind of finally made the decision to let them be, to let Naksu be happy because he does really want that for her. He was even planning on whisking her away to Seo Fortress to protect her and to take responsibility for her which weighs heavily on his shoulders. So we know he cares about her a great deal, maybe even more than his principles, which is what puts him in such mental agony in the first place.
I'm really glad actually that Seo Yul and Naksu got to have a closure conversation near the end of Part 1 (even if it all went to shit after) because they had so much history that needed to be addressed.
This conversation was really a turning point for Yul (again before the tragedy of the last episode) because he had finally made his peace with disregarding some of his principles that have been drilled into him and that he's held onto steadfastly for so long in favor of both his friends' happiness. His loyalty to people superseded his loyalty to his principles.
But then the tragedy happens. And not only does his worst fear come true that Naksu will run wild and cause havoc upon his world, but it comes with a huge price. Danggu and Choyeon's happiness is ruined, many people are killed by her hand or injured, and worst of all, Jang Uk dies on her sword.
Just when he's finally made peace within himself, it all falls apart, and he interprets it as the world telling him that he was wrong. That he should have intervened, done something, even if that meant killing Naksu. That he should have been more pro-active. That everyone else was right, and he should have done something about the monster.
He's a very subtle but very interesting character, especially when contrasted with Jang Uk.
He puts a lot of pressure on himself (possibly an attitude adopted because of other people's expectations of him growing up as the only Seo heir but we don't really know) and tends to take on everything quietly. He loves very deeply, and you can see it in the way he interacts with all the people he considers dear to him. He's very thoughtful and considerate and is always thinking of others at his own expense. His love for Naksu and for Jang Uk only added complexity to his character, and I absolutely love him. I think he's one of the highlights of the show.
I have to go to class but I will return for my thoughts on Seo Yul in part 2.
Let me know what you guys think or if I missing anything you thought was important!
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ridragon · 3 months
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Bro I hate Twitter there's drama about an autistic YouTuber being a harasser when the only fucking screenshots are someone... typing like an obviously autistic person. He didn't understand that he was being ghosted and the person thought he was talking "creepy" or "weird". You ghosted him and didn't tell him. I'm so fucking angry. Fuck you Lady Emily. I see how you treat us. You don't even care because it's giving you attention. I fucking love having the anxiety that in the end even people who are my friends will think I type too autistic and hate me. Maybe someone on Tumblr will care and spread that it's all fucking false. All the evidence is just someone being awkward..... you disgust me.
Edit Cuz I can admit when I'm wong albeit begrudgingly. Emily is still full of shit imo but it seems like he has actually hurt other people. Unfortunate. You weirdos cam stop sending me anon death threats without checking the post date now
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trans-mephisto · 7 months
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My boyfriend and I were having a discussion on how nobody bothers to actually ask Mephisto shit and just assumes he's up to no good
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wow i really love spock. hes so cool. sometimes i forget just how fucking cool and awesome he is but. damn i love spock. spock appreciation post everyone
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samadhifired · 9 months
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Since Ao Lie was the second Pilgrim to join the Journey... Just imagine how badly Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing must have freaked out when they learned that
This silly little guy
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Had an angry dragon mode
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pnk-spiderr · 9 months
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I love expressing my emotions about fiction though stick figure violence memes
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starbashir · 3 months
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listen i get that if you dig into aos its not necessarily brilliant But. They had the right idea of making it an alternate universe, so they could still do a prequel without affecting and therefore ruining the original content - it is a separate thing, even if its joined by the ending to spock prime story
thats why i love it bc its separate and doesnt change the original content. I think prequels suck sometimes bc they end up retconning shit that doesn't need it looking at you strange new worlds so yeah its good, if someone doesnt like aos they can ignore it as canon
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hobgobknowsbest · 4 months
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Goblin Tips: Bite Size Edition vol. 4: Belief
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believe in yourself.
relying on the belief of others is tenuous at best
even the gods of old can be turned into wee, glittery winged fairies by the human psyche
barred entry into homes and even common areas by hidden fences, iron pipes filled with moving water, and free to be mocked and blatantly laughed at
don't let this happen to you
be your own strongest follower.
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crystal-mouse · 3 months
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i have regrets
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neverevan · 10 days
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oop. i just realised why this whole buddie + bucktommy situation felt so familiar... this is the spirk + mckirk thing all over again.
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aingeal98 · 1 month
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Can't stop thinking of the tragedy of agents of shield and how yeah you can find your found family in a spy organisation but due to the nature of the work it's almost always bound to end in tragedy.
Daisy connected with Ward and he used her and betrayed her.
Fitz was her family and friend for 4 seasons only to end up using and betraying her and dying without any resolution, unlike Ward who she at least got closure with via shooting him.
Simmons was one of the people she trusted most for 4 and a half seasons, "us against the world" until the trauma warped Simmons to the point she could only focus on Fitz and would warp and justify anything to continue loving him. And unlike Fitz she didn't die so there was just this undercurrent for the rest of the show like I still love you and would die for you but I can't trust you the same anymore because I know you would take your husband's side no matter what he did to me. Sometimes it's just the two of us and it's like nothing's changed and other times you're selfish and self centered and willing to sacrifice everyone around you for Fitz. I want it to be us against the world but it isn't anymore. You chose and so even though I love you I need to move on.
Coulson loved Daisy so much. They were the central relationship of the show. But he died, and he's gone and it wasn't fully his choice but it's still one more original team member she's lost.
And then there's May. The final original member, the one Daisy had the hardest time connecting with initially. And now it's just the two of them. May stood by her and May died protecting her and May came back and is still there, just a phone call away. Daisy is off in space, doing what she does best in the face of a lifetime of suffering. She's fighting the good fight and helping people who need it and she's got a partner and a sister who she can trust and with no bad blood remaining.
But if they go back to earth for a pit stop or homesickness or for any other reason, she'll have May waiting for her. Daisy went from alone to the one on her team now with the most roots, a mother and a brother waiting for her every time she comes home to earth. Maybe four out of five times putting your hope and found family heart into your shady spy organisation coworkers ends in tragedy. But maybe that one time it doesn't makes it all worth it.
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2many2winged · 3 months
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I cannae believe they added gay sex to bang brave bang bravern
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mamapyjama · 1 year
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I reread Ao No Flag (Blue Flag) yesterday, and while I could go into a whole long post about similarities with our favourite childhood-friends-turned-love-interests, for now I just want to share the mangaka, Kaito’s, postscript mini-manga. In it he talks about how the story came to be, and I’ve highlighted a few bits that I found relevant.
First though, a few notes:
Ao no Flag was published by the Shonen Jump team in Jump+ (digital manga platform). This makes the context around the editors and serialisation an interesting insight into their process. Obviously the creators here would be given more freedom than in the main property, but it shows they are NOT averse to telling diverse stories.
Kaito is a male mangaka, just like Horikoshi, and also previously had manga serialised in the main Weekly Shonen Jump. Just like Horikoshi, his previous manga did not have queer themes.
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The series started in 2017 and ended in 2020. It was not advertised/tagged as an lgbtq+ manga, and weekly readers were left guessing who the ‘endgame’ pairings would be. Throughout the serialisation, it became increasingly clear that this was a—at least one-sided—mlm love story.
Kaito worked with the Shonen Jump team to integrate themes of diversity and homosexuality into the manga. MHA certainly shares the theme of diversity.
Finally, he makes it clear that once the manga was serialised, he had the freedom to ‘do whatever’ he wanted, and that the production team were pleased and congratulatory when the manga went viral as soon as Toma’s actual love interest started to become clear. Having people talk about your story is good marketing, it’s good business sense.
Anyway, it’s a great read—a little verbose at times but very thoughtful and truly makes you reconsider your assumptions about the roles certain characters play in popular media. I just wish the final chapter had been expanded to let us really absorb it.
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trans-mephisto · 3 months
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Osceola and Lewin having a father/son relationship confirmed!!! I figured it was the case with how they interacted tbh
Also kid Lewin is so adorable despite being like a horror movie child
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reineyday · 3 months
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every time i think bravern cant possibly get gayer, the next episode proves me wrong. (this is a compliment.)
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