#what the mind flayer did
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flayed robin flirting with nancy made her feel something (🏳️🌈🫵) but regular robin flirting with her sends her to another plain of existence
(ok but now i can't stop thinking abt flayed robin getting nancy blushing and then using that deep flayed voice and whispering, "i know what you are, nancy wheeler," and nancy's face burns even more. lol.)
ANYWAYS. yes. yes it does, because when robin flirts with her, nancy knows that its actually robin, and not the mind flayer. robin's flirting with nancy because she wants to, not because she's possessed and trying to get a rise out of her.
and sure, sometimes nancy likes to push her limits and just, sit in robin's lap. (totally not revenge for flayed robin) and yeah, robin freezes up and nancy, with faux innocence, will bat her lashes and tuck some of robin's hair behind her ear and ask, "what's wrong robbie?"
robin gapes at her. nancy winks. two can play at that game.
robin thinks for a moment that she's being punished for something, she just doesn't know what.
#got mail! 📩#anon asks#flayed!robin#ronance#robin buckley#nancy wheeler#lol sorry anon this kinda got away from me hehe#I HAF TO INCLUDE THE 'i know what you are' MEME#anyways when robin flirts with nancy it's sweeter than flayed robin. bc flayed robin thought it was funny to get her worked up#but robin (at first) is really sweet and genuinely cares about her so it's all kind of sickeningly sweet stuff or stuff she learned from#steve. THEN later on she likes to get nancy all worked up because she actually does think it's funny. but it's nothing to the caliber of#what the mind flayer did#rebel robin: surviving the upside down
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Will is an artist, so how about Renaissance era Byler?
Yes! That’s a great one, thank you!
Mike wheeler canonically had beef with Shakespeare (they went to grammar school together)
#byler#stranger things#byler fanart#mike wheeler#will byers#renaissance byler#history with byler#The mind Flayer is back#Why did Mike pick that pose?#We will never know#its like the Mona Lisa 2.0#What was she looking at?#Why was he standing like that?
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Can someone help me? I can’t see Will in this shot
He should be behind Lucas and Max and the other black boy and the girl with the red shirt. But after Mike and El kiss, it seems like he disappears. I see Mike and El, Dustin and Nancy, Max is still hugging Lucas, but where’s Will? Why does he keep disappearing?
It’s interesting that in this season Joyce asks What happens when my boy is gone? and Owens doesn’t answer. We will definitely know what it means in S5
Here we still see Will
The girl
(edit) Will again in the gif below, and the black kid and the girl with the red shirt. I think she’s there because she’s easy to spot.
But after this, poof. Gone. It’s strange. If we’re seeing different timelines in a time loop, it means that Will couldn’t go to the ball in one of them. What happened to him? And why did he disappear after Mike and El kiss and right before we see the Mind Flayer?
#byler#will byers#timeline theory#time loop theory#the mind flayer#tagging byler cos I know this is an important scene#maybe someone talked about this and has a theory#where could he be#it's interesting that he's still there when lumax kiss but disappears when mlv kiss#and right before we see the mind flayer#I wonder what happened in that timeline#did the exorcism work#has he been somehow removed from that moment by someone in the future#so many mysteries#stranger things
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im taking a deal with raphael to free orpheus, i will probably regret it, but the emperor just gives me bad vibes and he wants me to become mind flayer so bad and i don't love that
#like i just keep thinking about the conversation you have it withers#where he says that illithids don't have souls#like would tav lose themself entirely if they became a mind flayer or even half illithid?#i feel like emperor is tricking them or trying to control them for constantly being like 'hey being a mindflayer is great you should try it'#no thank you dude#i'm like 80% sure if you go the half illithid route you will turn at some point in the game? maybe at the end#literally all sirius has wanted the whole game is to get rid of the parasite. he let auntie ethel have his eye and everything#BUT i don't trust raphael either#i don't want him to have the crown like i think that's a REALLY bad idea#but what happens if you dishonor the deal?#idk if i did the right thing at all this game stresses me tf out#💬#bg3 ramblings#bg3 spoilers
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fuck the mf being the big bad i want that guy as a pet. i wanna feed it kibble and teach it to roll over
#accepting the reality that human nature is what causes so much pain was difficult and i love to lose myself in a fantasy where things are Ok#but now that i’m there and just coping with the fact that my favorite horror show is a genuine horror. I kinda wanna make the mf like a#little buppy#i wanna tear henry’s organs out and feed them to the mf in little bite sized treats#like sorry he did that to you mr shadow dog it’s Ok now#you wanna go play with the shadow men???? and then i throw the shadow stick#the mind flayer
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beat up an old man in bg3 tonight, gonna beat up another tomorrow night (read: some idiot with 666 hit points thought he was hot shit so i burgled him and am going to use what i got to doublecross the guy that catfished me)
#bg3 spoilers#seriously though did i miss some hint about raphael being a bigger deal than he made himself out to be??#he was all 'help me steal this thing to take over the nine hells!!' and im like. asmodeus?? you want to usurp asmodeus?? YOU??#like who ARE you?? asmo doesn't even NEED to prep a counterplan - it's not gonna work my guy!! it's asmodeus!!#i actually did see later online a mention that he's mephisto's son which is like ok theres SOMETHING... but still??#even mephisto has never usurped asmo?? youre just some cambion??#anyway so i killed him lmao#whatlikeitshard.png#i have NO idea what happens when i go to betray the emperor and free the gith prince but... i assume the emperor is gonna wanna fight me#and like honestly? I was defending you until you made it pretty clear you really just wanted to turn me into a mind flayer too#ill take a gith trying to kill me any day. i love it when they try to kill me. im a gith simp
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GALE PROPOSED
#AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA#FUCK WHAT A GAME#WHAT AN ENDING#I'M NOT CRYING#I AM#holy shit#that's all i can say#what a fucking game#excuse me while i sob about rain finally being free of everything#free of bhaal free of the tadpole#free to choose his own life for once#AND HE'LL BE STARTING IT AS RAIN DEKARIOS IN WATERDEEP#karlach did die which fucked me up#but i didn't want to tell her to go back to hell when it was the last thing she wanted#orpheus became a mind flayer and rain killed him after it all#lae'zel took his dragons and went to free the githyanki from vlaakith#fel's bg3
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ok tinhat time i kno shut up but.. hear me out.
u kno how the mind flayer is made up of dark particles? and how will could feel it everywhere? and it likes it cold?
and u remember how the teens used the light particles to communicate through the lights? and how they said they felt "good"?
well.
what if... those light particles... are another creature, maybe a different type of mind flayer / flayer-kin? but maybe this one isn't evil, and that's why they can communicate through to the other side with it and why it feels "good" to touch?
what if... those light particles, whatever they may be, are what helped will to communicate in s1? which could maybe explain why he was able to manipulate the lights like that, since it clearly couldn't have been in the same way the teens did? (and maybe they even had something to do with how he shaped the upside down and why his powers are related to it but not present in his realm? smth smth abt hiding from henry in the light + will is good at hiding + el saying that will is hiding in s1)
what if... vecna, the dark wizard, uses dark particles to fight in the name of evil... and will, the light wizard, uses light particles to fight in the name of good... what if 🤔
#FAR FETCHED I KNOW LMAO#BUT WHY DID THE TEENS SAY IT FELT GOOD. THAT SCENE STILL DOESN'T EXPLAIN HOW WILL WAS ABLE TO MAKE THE#LIGHTS GO CRAZY OR HOW HE MANAGED TO REACH THE ONES HE WAS TOO SHORT FOR ETC !#and they've bent dnd lore before so they could make a not evil mind flayer if they wanted to... ik there's one but idr their name.#like idk man im jus saying alhoons use magic n aren't hurt by bright lights n hot temps n they have truesight n were outcasts bc they#defied the elder brain n they need water n don't look like other mind flayers.#WHICH SOUNDS JUST LIKE WILL DOESN'T IT? AND EXPLAINS THE WATER IMAGERY?#and st already doesn't follow typical protocol for the mind flayer so like. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT IF........................#okay okay OKAY nowwwww i leave i prommy i swear i'm going i'm exiting the tab biting my hands closing my eyes etc#mine
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i enjoy s3 what can i say
#like yeah not narratively tbh#this is certainly not the best season#but ig there's the moments like will sensing the mind flayer or breaking castle byers apart which is not good but storyline wise#and mike honestly what can i say i loved him he was shitty and said a lot of shit and it wasn't always okay and thats him and hes priceless#stobin kinda carried a bunch of it alongside too. so did dustin. the scoops troop actually#lucas was already setting the bar pretty high for all men ever too. season 3 is not excluded from this#i would say billy ending up dead and gone if it wasn't for how the whole redemption vibe it gives the entire time kills it's core
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Scrolling through the bg3 tag to take a break from my studying and got jumpscared by porn of the emperor
#yall are freaks#bg3 spoilers#nat look away if you’re reading these tags#the devs did know what they were doing when they put a romanceable mind flayer in the game
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wait i just had a cursed thought. is the emperor romance just the solavellan romance
#person who pretended to be someone unassuming in order to gain the trust of the MC and/or their group#and seems to have more knowledge on their/the MC’s situation than they let on (the rift/the tadpoles)#later reveal they are a creature/figure that MC was taught not to trust (dread wolf/illithid)#difference seems to be that mind flayers is no longer capable of emotions as we know them whereas solas still carries around that#guilt and sadness from what he did#at work rn so don’t have time to dissect further and aware this is p much surface level but it was an Interesting thought#bg3 spoilers#bg3#shut up kat
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Ok so the Themes so far seem to be. power/control and/or freedom
#karlach and astarion both had masters they escaped from#wyll has his pact and gale has. whatever he has going on#shadowheart and laezel have their belief systems w their respective heads (goddess/queen)#and then ofc the mind flayers and the tadpoles#and in turn the power over others that comes w being infected#lay rambles#bg3#halsin is still not recruited (i did finally meet him tho!) cus im still stuck in the goblin camp but im curious what is Thing will be#& just abt the game in genera bc (mind) control themes are yummy#bg3 spoilers#? still early game but to be safe
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astarion: let's eat dem tadpoles bc i want ~ultimate powahhhh~
tav/morgan: but you might turn illithid
astarion: only one way to find out!
LATER
morgan: so i got this astral tadpole here....
astarion: get that shit tf away from me
#ooc. | * the real world sucks enter the matrix !#some things character development wise like this#still irk me lmao#like??? i don't understand astarion's logic here#maybe someone can help me out but#i wonder how his head changed from being willing to eat the tadpoles before#to not wanting the astral tadpole bc he doesn't wanna become a mind flayer like#in any NORMAL circumstance what did u think was gonna happen before??? you know???
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shoutout to my fellow big brained henry stans for taking the tired “what if the mind flayer was the real big bad??” take that ppl came up with after st4 vol 2 bc they were pissed that the true antagonist of the show was just Some Guy and turning it into the best st5 theory known to man
#no one actually thinks henry is possessed by the mf to the point of having no conscious input on the supernatural shit that’s gone down#or if someone does think that it’s a dumb theory sowwy#‘the mf manipulating henry into doing what he did at the creel house and has led him to believe he is 100% in control of the upside down#(v similar to brenner manipulating the children at the lab who believe they’re going behind papa’s back)#but he’s still technically in control of himself’#and also ‘the mf gave henry his powers’??? now THATS a fucking theory right there#*by mf i of course mean the shadow monster/particles#*the spider form/mf we see acting in season 3 (as this is the only season that’s been confirmed to have been henry’s doing) was controlled#by henry#but the entity that makes up the mf is an individual sentient being with its own hidden agenda#stranger things#stranger things 4#henry creel#001 stranger things#the mind flayer#the mf theory
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Thinking again about Will having (bigger) powers (bc he has powers currently ofc and has since returning from the upside down) based in his trauma response bc El’s is fight and his is flight and the way that he is specifically good at hiding.
Thinking about idk what specifically, maybe similar to his initial True Sight, but something to do with protecting himself rather than fighting others. Invisibility, forcefield to name some generic ones that fit this category.
Thinking about defensive powers vs self preservation.
Was gonna write in the tags but I liked it too much:
El is the defender. Will is the protector. (ex. El fights the bad guys Will keeps them in a forcefield or sum)
#this show always validates me SO MUCH on a personal level#by repeatedly showing how valid of a response running and hiding is#it is so often shown to be the 'braver' trauma response to fight#but fleeing is the RIGHT choice sometimes#fight worked on the demogorgon#but not the mind flayer#will stopped running and so did bob and that's what was their undoing#eddie died because he chose to fight over fleeing bc he had that ideology too#and i love that acknowledgement SO MUCH that it is not weaker or being a bystander or ANYTHING to prioritize keeping YOURSELF safe first#and hiding like will does.#because sometimes fighting provokes and escalates and you can't win#and sometimes you should have run and hid#so thinking about will having a more super-way of manipulating some ability to run or hide#stranger things#will byers powers
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this post is pretty metaphorical and almost entirely nonsensical. sorry
thinking again about dustin's s2 mindflayer analogy falling apart when hopper asked how to kill it. thinking about how will the wise is a wizard but mike (who is pretty much never wrong about anything) (except for calling el a mage when mages are npcs and she doesn't even really have mage powers she's much closer to a wizard leaping between schools of magic but also manifestationgate 👁👁? cuz this sure descibes her before she broke out of the lab
) called will their cleric. how vecna's curse is literally necromancy in the form of draining a person's life force and how henry should have died from the radiation burns he got traveling between dimensions or disintegrated like jason was by the gate opening in the creel house but didn't because he just necromanced like thirty people. and how the mindflayer isn't actually a mind flayer but a tool and the physical representation of the hivemind that henry is the brain of as the actual dnd mind flayer and so henry is a paradox in that he is both the mind flayer and the undead (lich? zombie? both? who knows!) that can resist the mind flayer's thrall oops i started reading about thralls and having revelations
billy was DEFINITELY a thrall, and will was well on his way before being blasted out of it by the power of love and seventy space heaters. i think the shadow is like a physical representation of the thrall and plugs you into the telepathic network and is also possible to expell Like A Demon so they could do a quasi-thrall that was reversible?
the rest of the flayed in season 3 i think were somewhere between ceremorphs and (reverse?) oblexes? possibly because ceremorphs henry wasn't really looking to make more mind flayers and ceremorphs ? he was just looking to kill? the hive mind. let me be coherent in a different paragraph (although i will say oblexes were introduced just over a year before season 3 came out as the creation of a make-a-wish kid and thus the similarities might've been a happy coincidence)
ceremorphs. illithid tadpoles injected into beings to eat their brains and take over their bodies and either become mind flayers themselves or become some other ceremorphized being that either was a subset of the hivemind to boost psionic ability or to find new victims to become food/members or other stuff idk etc, or in special cases becoming a being powerful enough to split from the control of the elder brain and start their own colony. the flayed in s3 get their faces sucked by tentacles a lot like will in s1, when the tadpoles were first deposited. they certainly look like corpses whose brains are currently being devoured from the inside.
anyway i don't think henry was particularly looking to make more mind flayers at this time partially from his fixation on el and will and also thinking pretty much the entire planet isn't worth it and they don't deserve the power and are better off as food and then as a biomass in his meatflayer that we still don't really know the end goal for? and so their orders were to munch the brains and then destroy the host body! yummy chemicals! the meatflayer ALSO could've been his attempt at literally physically creating his own elder brain. tadpoles plus nutrients plus hivemind shadow particles plus biomass? all the makings of a big ole brain ready to stew in some brine in a deep dark cave with lots of tunnels oh yeah that's why they were digging the tunnels
also btw besides ceremorphs a super rare tadpole will birth a super powerful mind flayer whose job it is to split the colony and move somewhere else and to become a new elder brain :)
and so im gonna black out cuz i can make absolutely anything about rosegate and the mind flayer "deities" ilsensine and maanzecorian just SCREAM rosemary and dick wheeler respectively, bro just trust me (go read their wikis), even dick's glaring abscence from the narrative as maanzecorian "died" and yet survived and his principles still being followed also .
mike wheeler knowing things he absolutely shouldn't check.
so like im convinced there is a (metaphorical?) elder brain underneath the creel house that tadpoled henry on move-in day (running from the bathroom?) and he became a ulitharid and is now splitting off to form his own colony with an elder brain under the library that may or may not be a brainstealer dragon. this bitch tadpoled tiamat
also if time travel is your thing Illithids Are Your Bitches
i completely lost the plot of this post
#virginia was a beholder and thats why henry takes the eyeballs sndnsksjs#this post is absolute dogshit nonsense please enjoy my stream of conciousness#st theories#this was originally gonna be about henry being undead and cleric will with the turn/destroy undead#but then i wasn’t sure if thrall was the right word for what mind flayers did and now here we are#also why would i do anything worthwhile with my time like watch my unending movie list or urnwatch or anything else. four hour rabbit hole.#but yeah i don't think he's Literally a ulitharid and Literally making an elder brain although who knows Gaping Mouth#and rosemary and dick aren't actually illithid deities but It's About The Metaphors. could very well actually be ghosts hashtag shininggate#like el doesn't have many wizard spells but like. her abilities while voidwalking and appearance in the real world screams dnd ghost#i need 2 sleep
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