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doks-aux · 3 months

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Seriously though, why was there an open bar for chaperones at a fucking school dance?

#i don't think that's a thing that happens #the universe was just like “fuck these three people in particular”#The Walten Files #Felix Kraken #Edd Walten #Molly Walten #twf meta #meta is a very broad term okay?

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pheonixrainbow15 · 1 month

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The walten files HC

Yk how Banny is a lesbian and Sophie is bisexual? And how also, Rosemary created the showstoppers, including Banny.

Maybe Soapie was very hush hush about her sexuality while her parents were alive/weren't missing, but maybe she also gave off ✨vibes✨(bibes:)

I like to think Rosemary intentionally made Banny sapphic to show sophie that she's okay with whoever her daughter likes, and to give her good rep so that she doesn't feel bad about herself :)

#sophie walten #twf #sapphic #the walten files #rosemary walten #Banny #I might catch some flack for this hc #but also #i think its cute #and the twf fandom feels a little dry on the hc/meta/analysis side #just a little

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arcanemoody · 3 months

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The Walter Files 4

(Spoilers; R had had 10mg of THC)

HOLY FUCK THERES 2 different types of haunted animatronics! The spirits who lingered to long and attached themselves to the machine, and the ghosts inside the mutilated corpses inside the fucking machines!

Which kind is BON?!

WONDERLAND. Molly and Edd can’t move inside Rocket Bunny. Is that why they speak a different language? Are they the ones talking to Sophie through the fucking video game?!

Susan and Charles knew about the accident.

Felix told Jack and Roses. Jack and Rosey KNEW about the accident.

How did none of these people call 911 to make a missing persons’ report before any of that? (If they had, we would have seen it by now. Everyone else has one).

How do any of the animatronics even know Sophie is alive in 1982? When literally everything they know is what they’ve observed right in Front of their own eyeholes?

I was screaming at Felix during the whole scene in the forest, like he was a shitty person I knew and not a fictional bisexual worst-uncle-ever?

#the walten files #twf 4 #Walter files meta

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butchsophiewalten · 4 months

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just listened to kyle's twitter audio stream with martin, and they talied a bunch about twf4 and the series in general! it was more meta stuff about the creative pricess and i didn't catch much since i tuned in later, but i got something about twf4.

1. "it's going to be perfect for twf fans (who are caught up with the lore) and useless for a typical reaction youtuber", in the context of jumpscares and the frightening elements in general. they discussed the "silent jumpscare", as shown in mandela v. 4,and martin said there will be no "bunnyfarm-like" jumpscares.

2. martin is extremely proud of some shots and imagery he made for twf4, and kyle called them "beautiful and frightening". there will be a lot of animation and artistry, apparently! also, as previously mentioned elsewhere, the show is slowly stepping outside the boundaries of the analog horror genre.

3. they briefly discussed the ending (again, no spoilers) and kyle mentioned that it was so mindblowingly perfect that you could pretty much end the whole thing right there, despite giving us no "big answers". a lot of time will be dedicated to showing off the worldbuilding (again, already mentioned).

4. there was a whole funny segment where they talked about matpat, but the important bit from it is that apparently martin had a "scott cawthon moment" with one of the film theory videos on twf, where a lot of stuff was wrong, but one (non-major) thing he got exactly on the spot and it will be confirmed in twf4. (no idea what it could be, since i watched both FT and his reactions, aka live theory crafting, and he says a lot of dumb stuff there. like, a lot.)

you are a beautiful angel for recapping that twitter space for me. I get really irritated listening to them for some reason so this is all stuff I would have never known. All of this is super interesting though! The Game Theory thing is especially funny. I've never watched those videos.

#ask

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vampirecatprince · 3 years

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Some thoughts/theories about The Walten Files so far:

I don't think the car accident is the first time Felix has had a fatal accident of some sort. This is implied by what he says in Guilty and I think it might be the event that lead him to drinking so heavily to begin with.

I'm not sure that Jack is the one possessing Bon? He's still implied to be alive through all the current ARG stuff and I don't think I would be in character to him to target his wife and daughter the way Bon has and is. That said, being a ghost in fiction can do fucky things to characters so who knows? He could be Bon and thinking he's doing good things by killing the other employees, so who knows.

That said, I actually see more parallels between Jack and Showbear and think that, while an obvious connection is being made between Bon and Jack, there's also very strong similarities to Showbear and Jack. He may be thematically tied to both?

I think Sophie intentionally is taking the pills to forget and has forgotten that she was even running from something to begin with.

I think Felix is behind Jack's disappearance and it probably was Jack physically confronting Felix after his hiding right after the accident.

Cyberfun Tech has a bigger role then it seems and maybe that has to do with my Felix started drinking? idek- I have a couple theories around why he started and how little we know about Cyberfun makes it a pretty easy theory factory rn.

#the walten files #the walten files spoilers #twf #twf meta

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metaredacted0201 · 3 years

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WHY DOES THIS MAN KINDA LOOK LIKE SHANE MADEJ??

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orionsangel86 · 4 years

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Wow, that spec for 15x08 went quick! Although if Cas dies, it would be a good way to plot him meeting up with Jack, Billie, and the Empty (who are acting as the non Chuck-controlled TWF 2.0) (TWF 2.5, 3.0???)

Yeah so basically here is how I think it will all go down. Accepting the fact that this is wild speculation but I will explain WHY I think this will be the case.

1. We know Chuck wants a Sam and Dean against the world story. He is purposely totally ignoring Cas. The working theory (which I am in the middle of writing still because I am useless) is that Cas doesn’t exist in any of Sam’s vision worlds because they are what would have happened in the OG world had Cas not been around to basically play spanner in the works.

2. We have not yet seen Jack (the absolute spanner in the works and source of Chuck’s biggest fear - being replaced) or Billie, or the Empty Entity, since the end of season 14. They will most definitely be coming back into the story soon.

3. Dean’s prayer in episode 9 involves confessions, tears, and some bruised egos. We know Cas hears it, but that Dean is alone when he prays. Something prompts this desperation in Dean to the point he needs to pray to Cas. We know that before this, they hadn’t resolved their issues.

4. Chuck’s script so far only contains Sam and Dean. Once again Castiel is off the page. He isn’t controlled like they are (or that is what I got from 15x06 anyway). So Sam and Dean are no longer parts of “Team Free Will” in the sense that Chuck has at least somewhat robbed them of it (though not completely as I don’t think he has that power).

Right. So for these elements to all add up somehow, the way I see it we need a reason to link back to Jack, Billie, and the Empty Entity. We also need a big cliffhanger at the end of the Mid Season Finale as we usually get. We need something emotional enough to happen that it triggers an intimate prayer confession from Dean in the Mid Season Premiere. We need Chuck to think that he has got the upper hand at least for a time - by isolating Sam and Dean and forcing them to play out his story no doubt.

We know that Adam comes back (either as Adam or OG Michael we don’t yet know.) My money is on this being part of Chuck’s big ending to get the boys to kill each other (I am also absolutely terrified that this means Lucifer may return though I really hope that every other writer bitchslapped Eugenie Ross Leming when she inevitably pitched such utter nonsense. We shall see).

So here’s how I would write this story:

Cas and Sam return with some idea on how they can overpower Chuck. Dean, having come to terms with some home truths in 15x07 will try to connect with Cas but Cas will give him the cold shoulder (and hopefully be a sassy bitch all episode). As far as unlikely allies go I’m think Amara will join the Winchesters team. I would also love it if this is when we get Rowena back in all her might as Queen of Hell since no doubt she would have gained power and respect from the demons quickly).

Chuck will get pissed and bring back OG Michael from the cage, forcing them all to fight and face off. Right at the end I have an inkling that something will happen which causes Cas to step out to protect/save the boys, and Chuck will say some snarky comment about how he used to like Cas, but he got too close to his main characters (I would love for some meta commentary here and bronly shade - a girl can dream). Then he dead ass looks Cas in the eye and says “as I told you once before, you’re not in this story.” and smites Cas.

Cas drops down dead with burnt out eyes and Sam and Dean look on in utter horror - ideally here we would get one very important confirmation - that CAS and his own choices were real and not manipulated by Chuck. So Dean gets one answer. Chuck has managed to also send all their other allies away and smugly boasts about how they better stick to his script before he disappears.

The MSF ends with Sam and Dean alone, without allies, and with Castiel lying dead at their feet.

The MSP will begin with Cas in the Empty, woken up by Jack and the Empty entity who have been having a nice long chat with Billie - who knew Cas would be coming soon. She says something like “this is the only place we can actually talk without Chuck being able to overhear. So welcome. We are operation take down God.” or something. Cas and Jack have a tearful reunion and through some supernatural means it is revealed that they have a connection to Earth again. It is through this connection that Cas is able to hear Dean’s prayer. It’s all very emotional. But they can’t focus on that right now. They need to plot to take Chuck out, and now Cas is with them as part of that team.

So let me know what you think. This is all my brainstorming coming out about how I would write these episodes because I feel like Cas has to go to the Empty to meet Jack again and get caught up with the plan (which for some more wild spec I believe will be to trap Chuck the same way he trapped Amara and replace him with Jack.)

I DON’T think Castiel’s Empty deal will be the reason he next goes to the Empty, because Cas won’t ever be truly happy without his son alive. Even if he reunites with Dean and gets a proper sappy love confession from him. He needs to have the whole package and I actually don’t think we are going to follow through on that story now, I think it’s more likely that the Empty Entity will agree to release him from his deal if he agrees to fix all this nonsense so he can go back to sleep once its all done and dusted.

I think Chuck will smite him to get him out of the way.

Buuut this is all wild speculation guys so take with a pinch of salt. (Though remember that I was right about the last time Cas died! If it makes narrative sense for a thing to happen, it’s likely that thing will happen. Even if all the circumstances around it are totally different to what I speculated.)

:)

#wild speculation hour #castiel #spn speculation #spn spoilers #destiel #season 15 #15x08 #15x09 #my spec #my poor angel #asks #anon #Anonymous

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flyingfish1 · 7 years

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“parallel possession plots” and some Jack spec

I’ve talked before about what I’ve been thinking of as “parallel possession plots,” but it was a little while ago and it was buried in a longer meta, so I wanted to pull it out and look at it on its own.

Basically: The Sam/Gadreel plot, the Dean/MOC/Amara plot, and the Cas/Lucifer/Jack plot all seem to be following a similar pattern with a similar emotional impact on the characters.

(I know the Mark of Cain wasn’t “possessing” Dean exactly, but the situations are close enough to make a comparison and the pattern does seem to apply to it. His body and mind were affected by a powerful foreign force that attached itself to his body and encouraged him to act in ways he wouldn’t normally act. It’s similar enough imo.)

The pattern:

1. The Team Free Will members are at the lowest of low points when they agree to being possessed by something, without knowing all the details. Sam, feeling worthless and wanting to die, agrees to let Dean help him without knowing that he’s agreeing to let Gadreel in. Dean, reeling from Kevin’s death and Sam’s ordeal, feels like “poison,” so he agrees to take the Mark without reading the warning label. Cas, feeling worthless and depressed, lets Lucifer possess him without being certain that Lucifer can defeat Amara on his own.

2. TWF are controlled by the outside force for a while, and it makes them do terrible things.

3. The outside force is removed from TFW’s bodies. Sam kicks Gadreel out of his head; Rowena’s spell removes the Mark from Dean’s body; and Amara rips Lucifer out of Cas.

Interestingly, Sam’s the only one to have any agency during this event. Dean and Cas are both passive observers. Maybe it’s in order to balance out Sam having the least amount of choice in the original possession? The knock-on effect seems to be that Sam is totally free of Gadreel after that—no lingering supernatural connection or influence—while Dean and Cas both continue to struggle with having their minds and their free will tampered with even after the “possession” is over.

4. The being that was possessing them is now loose in the world, free to wreak havoc on a much bigger scale. (Oh, yeah, and the other thing—they’re all possessed by beings that had previously been imprisoned!)

I think you can look at the Lucifer plot “evolving” into the Jack plot in the same way that the MOC plot evolved into the Amara plot. In terms of their function in the narrative, Jack is to Lucifer what Amara was to the Mark of Cain.

5. Amara influences Dean and Jack influences Cas. Dean struggles with a “connection” to Amara that makes him want to “join” her and that renders him incapable of killing her. Jack lends Cas his own power, gets into his head, and shows him visions of the “future.” It’s hard to say exactly what kind of hold Jack has, or doesn’t have, over Cas, but it hasn’t been resolved yet so presumably it’ll continue once Cas comes back.

6. The guys can’t defeat them, so they have to accept them instead, which leads to them having a change of heart. Dean empathizes with Amara and talks her out of destroying the world; and Cas connects with Gadreel and helps him realize he’s on the wrong side, which leads to Gadreel offering his genuine support to him and to Sam.

Cas having such a major role in Sam’s Gadreel arc is one of the reasons why I think Sam’s going to return the favour next season. I think he’ll play a major role in dealing with Jack.

Sam and Cas will need to approach Jack on his own terms and listen to his story.

7. Gadreel and Amara voluntarily leave the world in order to save it/make it a better place. Gadreel sacrifices his life to protect Heaven. Amara realizes that the universe is worth saving, heals Chuck, and leaves with him rather than do any more damage to the world.

I’ll save my more specific guesses for another post—it’s always harder to guess at the specifics!—but I’m going to say that I think Jack will do the same thing. I think that he’ll probably (inadvertently? Deliberately?) do some damage to the world at first, but his last action will be to save the world by leaving it. Maybe he’ll move into another dimension; maybe he’ll die; maybe he’ll take over Heaven or Hell (or both?!) and rein them in; who knows? Whatever it is, it’ll be voluntary and it’ll be a benevolent act.

~Speculative digression time~ I think the plan, going back to season nine, was always to have all three members of TFW possessed like this. I think these stories were always supposed to echo and reinforce each other, and the only reason Cas’ “possession plot” comes so much later than the others’ is because Dean’s MOC/Amara arc got stretched out for soooo long. (I also wonder if Sam’s Gadreel arc would have lasted longer if TPTB had known they’d get renewed so many times!) You can see foreshadowing for Cas getting possessed as early as 9x01, imo, when Hael threatens to possess him; and then in 9x10, we discover that demons can possess bodies that are already occupied by angels; and Cas never does get an anti-possession tattoo, even when he’s human, so he’s always been left open to demonic possession. I don’t think TPTB always had definite plans for who/what was going to possess him—an angel or a demon or what—but they knew that something would.

#spn spec #spn meta #Jack the Nephilim #or whatever we're calling him #Jack Kline #Amara #Gadreel #Team Free Will #parallel possession plots #spn #my meta #my thoughts #story structure

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sc03212012 · 5 years

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twf when you just want to read positive and cute analysis of your characters and ship dynamics but you only see bitter and angry metas of people... and they arent even good metas theyre just really... bitter? and angry?

#like id take a good criticism but that aint it chef #fuck off #personal #ships #i love love reading metas #but sometimes they upset me

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doks-aux · 3 months

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A serious question about The Walten Files:

What kind of dentist appointment lasts until 9:00 PM?

#The Walten Files #twf meta #meta is a very broad term okay?

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metaredacted0201 · 3 years

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Sophie why do you draw your question marks like that

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metaredacted0201 · 3 years

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OOH OOH OH I DO NOT LIKE THE SUSAN PART THAT IS THE FIRST THING THATS MADE ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE

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metaredacted0201 · 3 years

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Banny what did the pretty horse lady JUST say

#hi I’m still watching the walten files #don’t be surprised if you see me live blogging my reaction #meta reacts twf

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metaredacted0201 · 3 years

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“Everything is gonna be okay!” MOLLY PLS 😭

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metaredacted0201 · 3 years

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The only thing I absolutely hate is the fact that some of the text is either too dark or too blurry to read anything

Pls walten files my eyesight is already shit don’t make it harder for me 😭

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butchsophiewalten · 3 years

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The fnaf vs twf thing is so funny because you have Sophie who would probably hug Rocket and hold him and be crying in happiness while Micheal is on top of a chair trying to whack his siblings away with a broom like “EIGHTH GRADERS ARE THE MEANEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD”

I also think about how nothing bad ever happened at Freddy’s in twf land way more than I’d like,,,,,like oh my god the Afton siblings actually have a good relationship and I bet they live with their mom and go on Adventures

you cant fnaf at me i dont know what that means. my interest in fnaf was super meta and i cared very little about the human characters

#ask

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