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#tldr: you will feel pretty shitty afterwards :(
scratchandplaster · 1 year
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Aftermath of Drugging
CW: discussions of non-con drugging, spiking food, medical whump, overdosing, drug abuse, addiction, death, brief BBU-mention
Using drugs as a whump method is pretty common, and rightly so! As one of my favorite tropes, it was interesting to think about how they could affect the Whumpee after the act itself, be it physical or mental.
That's why I made a little compilation (for me and you), if you feel like agonizing your Whumpee even further. There are also some examples in between, for your entertainment!
The research is mostly relating to any downers, meaning any drug that makes you calm or fall asleep, so anesthetics, hypnotics or sedatives. Examples include ketamine, Rohypnol, GBL, propofol and heroin.
Uppers on the other hand have the opposite effect in stimulating the human nervous system. Some of the effects that are noted below are applicable to both kinds of drugs, but keep in mind that stimulants are more of an afterthought in this list. I'm going to recap the effects of both at the end.
I'm not a pharmacist by any means, but as far as reliable research for creative writing goes, this should suffice. No one is going to fact-check your whump fic, bestie 🤍
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By method:
Ingestion (forcing them to take pills, spiking their food)
→ General indigestion, nausea, dry mouth
Injections via syringe or continuous administration through an IV drip (e.g. in medical settings)
-> Swelling/tenderness/infection/bruising of the injection side
-> High fever (even days after the injection)
→ Anaphylaxis: skin rash, chest tightness, dizziness, nausea, facial swelling
Anaphylaxis is an all-body allergic reaction that can cause mild to severe and even deadly symptoms (shock or coma). It can escalate and should be immediately treated with a shot of adrenaline. This kind of reaction could be detrimental to Whumper's plans, especially if they intend to keep Whumpee alive for the foreseeable future. So it would be helpful for them to always carry an EpiPen, just in case...
Inhalation (gas or liquid)
→ High risk of choking and (sleep) apnea
-> Irritation of throat, nose and eyes
-> Throat spasms (Laryngospasm)
Includes coughing, difficulty breathing/speaking and the feeling of suffocation. Even though this kind of spasm fades away pretty quickly, they cause severe stress and panic to the aggrieved party, even leading up to lose consciousness again.
Physical side effects:
-> Drowsiness/tiredness, headaches/migraines, tinnitus
-> Dry mouth/throat or excessive drooling
-> Dilated pupils (causing Whumpee to be light-sensitive)
-> Slurred speech
-> Skin rash, itching, hives
-> decreased/increased appetite (give them a little snack...or not)
Motor skills:
-> Muscle relaxation, ataxia (lack of movement control), general weakness
-> Poor coordination
-> Tremors, cramps, spasms
-> Numbness, paralysis of the body or extremities (a local anesthetic would also do that trick)
Vegetative effects:
-> PONV: nausea, vomiting, retching
-> Cold shivers or hot flashes, acute sweating
-> Arrhythmia, low blood pressure and heart rate
-> Labored breathing
-> Vertigo
The physical consequences alone can make the wake-up process a living nightmare for Whumpee. Any after-effects that inhibit them from just getting up and escape are probably the worst in such a situation, making them weak and useless even if no restraints are involved. Imagine Whumpee just breathing heavily and quivering with cold shivers on a basement floor, unable to shake this uncomfortable feeling off. Their whole system is just trying to get the drugs out, but doing more damage than intended. Numb to the world around them, not even feeling if they are hurt or wounded. Or imagine the complete opposite: Them being able to get up and stumble to the exit, only to be overwhelmed by intense dizziness and collapsing back onto their knees. All the while Whumper watches, of course 👀
Did Whumpee eat beforehand?
Prior to any anesthesia, the person has to fast for at least six hours beforehand. Because Whumpees rarely plan their own kidnapping or non-con high, Whumper should wait for the right moment to get it done. Otherwise, they're risking aspiration or choking and therefore dangerous lung damage up to death; surely the most undesired outcome. Who would have thought that drug abuse can be dangerous...
Impure compounds? In my illegal drugs!?!
If your Whumper's stash really was cut with popular diluents e.g. other medication or lactose, the risks are surprisingly low. The threat of overdosing still comes from the main drug agent. However, mixing downers and uppers to cancel each other out can lead to a dangerous cycle, which amplifies the side effects and increases the risk to OD.
Mental side effects:
-> Nightmares, paranoia around food/drinks
-> Depression, anxiety, self-loathing (e.g. for not being careful enough)
-> Psychosis, hallucinations (optic, acoustic, in terms of taste etc.)
-> Dissociation, confusion, disorientation
-> Insomnia
-> Reduced anxiety or inhibitions
Now instead of being afraid, Whumpee could go batshit crazy and make fun of Whumper; spitting, biting and insulting their aggressor. An outburst they will probably regret later, when they're calm again and sober enough to understand the damage they have caused themself.
-> Memory loss/amnesia
Cue intimate Whumper, who just plays the part of a worried friend while keeping their love safe and controlled. Vague recollections of past abuse? No, just take another sip from your tea, it's alright... One could use drugs as a mean of removing memories altogether, I think in the BBU the "drip" is used to erase the whole personality of the Whumpee, making them a blank slate to train however one would like.
Withdrawal:
-> minutes or even days after the initial drugging
-> extreme anxiety up to paranoia
-> nausea, vomiting, indigestion
-> muscle aches
-> flu symptoms like a runny nose, sweating and fever
Depending on the kind of drug and how often it is used, withdrawal can start after just one dosage. "Not even once"-drugs include meth, heroin and crack cocaine. Also, barbiturates have a high risk of dependence. Speaking of it...⬇
Addiction as a long term effect:
-> Organ damage especially of the brain, liver, kidneys and the diseases that follow (including cancer, short weight, heart failure)
-> Loss of interests, behavior/personality change
-> Selling all valuables and ending up in poverty
-> Aggression/violent behavior
-> Shame and guilt
Isolated, financially and mentally unstable, Whumpee's life had been ruined with just a single act. Even Caretaker turned their back on their former friend. But Whumper would love to help Whumpee become sober again, under just a few conditions. On the other side of the spectrum: a Whumpee who finally managed to escape and take revenge on their abuser, they slowly but surely make Whumper ruin themself through their newly developed little habit...
To sum up:
Downers (decrease bodily functions and calm you down)
→ Unconsciousness, weakness, distortion of perception, failure of motor functions, coma
-> Common examples: Xanax, ketamine, propofol
Vs.
Uppers (stimulate bodily functions and mood)
-> reduced inhibitions, more prone to hallucinations, psychosis, seizures, serotonin syndrome (high heart rate, sweating, twitching, mania)
-> Common examples: meth, ecstasy, cocaine
Bonus: How to store your Whumpee!
The immediate consequence of drugging someone is to figure out how to keep them. Get them secluded and ready for whumping:
-> In the backseat, foot space or trunk of a car (use an ambulance, it's inconspicuous)
-> You know these roof boxes people strap on top of their car? Stuff ´em in there!
-> Put them in a box and ship them overseas
-> Basements are classics, but try the attic for a change
-> Just use a coffin, combined with an old hearse nobody is going to notice
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Thanks for reading 🤍 [Masterpost]
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AITA for listening to my friend's favorite musician with someone else?
I (20 nb) live with my good friend T and her good friend H (both 20 F). Me and T were extremely close and have had some growing pains and complications that aren't necessarily relevant to this situation but are what make this feel so delicate and important. We've both expressed insecurity in our treatment of each other and our relationships with other people in the house, including worries that H would like me better than her. The last that conversation left off was that she didn't want to get into it anymore then but maybe would be ready soon.
T is a big "content monogamist" where once you start a tv show or something with one person you dont watch it by yourself or with anyone else. That's super normal and valid, but I personally love to watch things over and over again with anyone willing and am happy for other people to do the same. She knows this and we figure out how we're going to watch things on a case by case basis pretty much. She also recently got hyperfixated on a musician that I'm a long-time casual fan of, and we've had a really good time listening to their discography together and sharing that excitement.
H has also been listening to their music to talk about with T. H and I have been hanging out a lot lately, so I asked what she thought of the songs she had been listening to and we ended up listening to them together and even coming up with our own complicated ranking system for them that has become kind of an inside joke. I knew while it was happening that this would upset T to hear about, but at the time it felt like whatever, catering my actions to her insecurities 24/7 is just going to build resentment, I'm allowed to talk about music that I also like with someone who is also my friend. But more and more afterward it feels like a little bit of a betrayal and I wish I had stopped and waited to make an activity of it until we could all hang out together.
TLDR: My friend/roommate is insecure about me and our other roommate leaving her out, and we listened to her favorite artist without her. Am I a shitty friend? Am I overthinking?
What are these acronyms?
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tvckerwash · 15 days
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okay I watched restoration and I'll probably analyze it more in depth later when my brain has processed what I've watched but here are some of the thoughts I had while watching (I stopped live blogging part way through so some things may be out of order lols):
okay first thoughts: we’re at a convention, and dylan is some sort of director for some super unpopular thing. ngl that’s a pretty harsh downgrade from journalist/news correspondent. 
hi kai. she seemed to be more like her s15-s17 characterization than her bg/chorus cameo characterization for the 30 seconds she was present (which I remember really disliking)
wash is in the hospital as prisoner 619b…bros did the UNSC arrest him again?!?
“I’m not even sure I got his voice right this time.” okay so restoration IS another simulation
the director being a therapist when the counselor is right there lmao
bros no way they got elijah wood to voice sigma again??
is that the counselor I hear on the PA system??? that’s what the subtitles said anyway. but anyway BROS HE ACTUALLY FUCKING LIVED LETS GO (but why is his ass not in jail??????? there’s no way he managed to get a job, let alone one in a UNSC hospital, but if this IS a simulation which I think it is and epsilon himself admitted to making mistakes already then I’m okay with that development ig)
NO IS DOC A FIGMENT OF WASH’S IMAGINATION NOOOOOO MY MANS IS FINALLY LOSING IT FR
“Listen to me! You’ve gotta listen to me!”
479er??? I’ve always had the hc she was arrested w wash and the other pfl personnel at the end of s6
“Our mission men—and blue” caboose is trans confirmed
“Don’t feel bad afterwards. I forgive you. I know it’s not your fault, I’m sorry this is happening to you.” omg caboose not dunking on tucker is what he presumed to be his final moments.
SARGE GOING TO SAVE CABOOSE <3
oh okay I predicted months ago before the 2nd trailer came out that at least one of the bgc was going to die and I was right! I thought it was going to be caboose but rip sarge (and doc) 
I’m really disappointed that wash didn’t get to do more tbh. the meta was HIS enemy but he was regulated to comedic relief  :(
also wash jumping off a cliff to activate the recovery beacon is :/. bro was literally a recovery agent he should know how to activate it to summon lina like she’s a deployable unit in uhh. ways that were NOT that.
did not expect tex to come back but okay, also tex/lina fighting together feels like fanservice but mmmmmmmmmmnh. 
awww tex and church get to be together again, dying together as one like they did at the end of s6. TEX SOFTLY HOLDING CHURCH’S HAND YES!!! WE LOVE SOFT TENDER TEX IN THIS HOUSE!!!
damn the “wash and lina having their trauma and traits swapped for no reason” thing is. hmmm  don’t like that, have never liked that. I tried to see if I had any posts on my old blog about this topic bc I remember talking about it in the past and I sort of do? eh whatever tldr; lina is the one haunted by the past and wash is supposed to be the one giving the emotional speeches but hhhhhrng. will definitely be talking about that more later even though I thought the scene was super sweet (also ct!!!!!!! my girl!!!!)
I don’t like that they were all separated and that grif was going to leave, these mfs were forced together in a shitty box canyon at the start of the series and I feel like it would’ve been better if instead of being forced together they all chose to stay together but it is what it is.
“Bow chicka bye now.” bros it’s over…
okay ngl it was pretty rushed pacing wise and I’ve got so many bones to pick (mostly about wash bc ofc) but speaking as an ending to the series I think it works. it all started in a box canyon which was later revealed to be an elaborate training simulation, so it’s fitting that it it was revealed very early in the run time that it was all a simulation, and it all ended in the box canyon they started in. I thought the themes of feeling guilty and being able to forgive oneself were very interesting (might get into that more later as well…) so yeah. 
it’s flawed, but for such a long running series that had originally been intended to only be a few episodes, I think it ending with tucker telling us it’s over and to go home is honestly the best way they could’ve done it. all the other times the series had “ended” it was done in a way where it worked as a standalone end for the series, but it was always open-ended enough that a continuation could be made if they wanted to. 
there isn’t going to be a continuation this time, the story is over, but just because the story has ended doesn’t mean that we can’t make our own stories. red vs blue will live on so long as there are people who want it to, which feels pretty on the dime doesn’t it?
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uno-writing · 2 years
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Berri its me im back how does it feel to not be spammed by me constantly
ok a few things
im sooo really sorry if I made u uncomfy with the name thing
ok so Ik like a few months I was "wAit HoW dO YoU NoT LiKe SeRA huhgsdajwgfudiwl" but ninety nine percent of the shit I said made no sense so lets forget that ask was even typed cuz its pretty embarrassing
oh and I haven't spammed ur inbox cus i went to Virginia for 2 weeks and my phone broke like the day we were leaving adsjkdsh and I had NO INTERNET unless my grandma let me use her iPad or my mom let me use her phone like a nine year old lmao BUT IT WAS HELL bc 1. no internet and 2. I had to sleep in the room as my sister and she hogs they tiny fan, but mostly no internet. makes me realize how addicted I am to my phone but its okay cuz its 2022 and everyone and their mother is addicted to the internet
anyways how was your day berri mine was good bc I (kinda) won a argument with a transphobe in the YouTube comments section
oh and while I was in Virginia I went to this boba place and got taro slush with boba (cmiiw but Im pretty sure that's seras fav) and it was rlly good like it was sweet but not too sweet but later I went to a diff place and got reg taro tea (not the slush) and it was kinda shitty but also first place I went to had these rlly cute keychains with mini boba drinks on them so yea
(tldr: taro slush boba is good but without it its shit imo)
this long ass ask is to make up for the lack of spamming ur inbox lately
ok bye
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
WELCOME BACK BESTIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I WAS STARTING TO MISS YOU!!!!!!!!!
1.Dw about it!!! Its okay!!! You didn't know and you're not the first person to do it, and you're probably not the last person to either.
I feel really bad for how spicy the first pinned post update was 😅 There were a good number of people on here that were completely annoying me (not you bestie dwww!!!!!) and so I got super ticked off and redid the pinned post lmfaooo-
I've been slowly making edits to it so its less spicy but yeah even tho the name thing came off as super spicy to begin with, I wasn't super upset about the name thing lmao (i think i toned down its spiciness now? idk lemme know if i need to fix it more bc I dont wanna come off sounding like a bitch lmfao-)
2.Dw about that either lmao. Tbh out of all of the "omg??? you don't like/you do like *insert uno character*???? what?????" asks Ive gotten, you're was probably one of the nicest lmfaooo-
OMG HEYYYYYYYY YOU CAME TO MY HOME STATE! I HOPE YOU HAD A GOOD TIME!!!!! ASIDE FROM THE WHOLE NO INTERNET THING LMFAOOO-
Yeah you came right during a heatwave lmao I get the hogging fans thing, my house doesn't have A/C rn and its awful-
I had a goodish day lmao My college just told me that they've completely changed my course requirements so now I have to take a bunch of classes I dont want/idk how they'd apply to the major I'm in but oh well :D :D And then I took a big nap :3 :3
Oh heyyyyyyyy
I've had boba like 2 times and it was really good! But I'm really lactose intolerant and the place I went to only served milk tea so I just suffered afterwards lmfao
I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING-
BEAUTIFUL LONG ASK!!!!!!
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goblinselfshippr · 9 months
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💛familial tag explanations + links
The tldr is that I like Ghost and only adopt demons (Hizashi is a special case)but this one is significantly shorter than the romantics
Mephisto Aka Sam AKA Samael AKA father- #💛[Call Me Little Sunshine]
This song came out on my FUCKING BIRTHDAY and I literally cried. Its his song because it says his name in it a bunch of times. That’s it lol. It felt a little bit like the universe having my father give me a birthday present (delusional)
Amaimon- #💛[Year Zer0]
[link] It names the 6 kings of hell and NONE OF THEM ARE HIM LOL (because in actual lore Amaymon is some weird demon wyrm controlled by Asmodeus I think) it just feels like a silly little jab to irritate my brother. It is also his ringtone in my fics, and makes me irrationally angry that it has become a shitty tiktok song
Lucifer- #💛[Pinnacle to the Pit]
Tbh if Sam’s song didn’t go “Call Me Little Sunshine, Call Me Mephestopheles” it would have been uncle Luci’s song lol. Pinnacle to the Pit is about actual Lucifer’s fall, so of course it is his song. I say “actual” Lucifer because in the ane universe, it’s sort of implied that they (Sam/Luce/etc) were named by humans after said humans’ mythologies. They didn’t name themselves, that is just what they were named and they stuck with it. Honorable mentions to “He Is” because I was heavily considering it as his tag as well, but I think I was more interested in Pinnacle to the Pit at that point in time (I learned He Is on Kalimba and couldn’t listen to it for WEEKS afterwards)
Hizashi Yamada- #💛[Dad Rock]
Not a demon so he doesn’t get a Ghost song, BUT his tag is an inside joke with myself about the first time I found out the metal/alt rock community generally doesn’t like Ghost. The first comment I read was something like “Ghost is dad rock, not real metal. get that shit off this page.” Which for some reason I thought was funny. Also I think he (Hizashi, not the commenter) listens to dad rock.
Diavolo- #💛[Majesty]
[link to song] “Old One, Master All beauty lies within Old One, Master All beauty lies within you ...Your Infernal Majesty” yeah that’s Dia. His ringtone is just the very last “Your infrnal majesty” because it embarrasses him so bad. Also my big brother is so pretty lookit him. 🥺 pinch hims lil cheeks ANYWAY this plays when he gets crowned the actual devildom king in my fic and he cannot stop it (the speakers are in the walls of the throne room)
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ok idm public but its like, A Lot so here goes: Im a pretty new DM, ive only ever done little homebrew things with a few people at a time that havent gone anywhere. Currently, ive taken over as DM from a long running game involving 3 of my friends and my older sister/brother in law (im 22 theyre about 26) and im running The Witch Beyond The Wildlight (a very lighthearted offical dnd adventure). my brother in law was the DM of last campaign and the tone was pretty Brutal (like fighting dragons, surprise gorey moments, bad things happening to good people for no reason ect) i started this adventure off specifally mentioning saftey tools in the frist session because things like excess gore specifically really Dont Do It for me, to which Bro-in-law kind of makes light of the saftey tools (EG. "can we just skip part of the adventure if im uncomfortable with it") generally BiL is pretty chill/not a bad guy or anything but this irked me when i was trying to be serious about this and he was trying to poke holes in the logic of people wanting to not touch on certain topics? (1/2)
(2/2) we've completed chapter 1 which was just a safe sandbox area but now in chapter 2 we get our first fight (weenie enemies bc its lvl 2) and afterwards hes gone in detail wanting ME to describe how he can basically defile the corpses of the highwaymen he killed (theyre rabbit people. but he wanted skin/bones/teeth). which really yucked me out and i tried to set a hard boundary but i dont know if he really gets me there. This whole situation of him not really listening to me as a DM, and then him acting upset when i have to tell him No has made me really frustrated because i feel like he is just fully not on the same page as me on what this campaign is about and doesnt really respect my ruling as DM (arguing with me this session that a bird familar should be able to sign a warlock contract, dumb things like that?) TLDR: He is my brother in law, and i want to be able to play with him and my sister, but i cant get through to him, and he thinks my escapism fairytale campaign is darksouls. do you have any advice?
Sounds like a real bummer, I'm sorry to hear that! I have experience with voiding tone boundaries on both sides, though both more incidental and because of unclear communication - I've definitely pulled back from gorey descriptions in fights because players were uncomfortable, and I've had to tell players to tone it down because it was inappropriate. It's hard especially when the genre of the campaign is different to the last and there are different expectations of violence - I hope the more they explore the feywild the more he understands the tone for the genre.
If you want to go outside the boundaries of the pre-made module, creating non-violent combat encounters can help curb the more gorey aspects of battles - but if you are more comfortable sticking with the written encounters (which is fair when using pre-made modules), I think you just have to be firm with him. It sounds like an annoying situation, where you don't want to kick him out but he also wants to be a kinda shitty player - I really hope he cares enough to listen to you and continue the game without continuing to be a nuisance.
In the example you used especially - if he tries to pull another teeth pulling thing, I think saying in no uncertain terms "I don't want to hear you describe that." or even "I'm uncomfortable with that action so I won't allow it." might be the best way to go - you're the DM and its your world, don't let him dictate how things operate. A slightly less upfront approach could be redirecting the energy: I know that particular module is set in the Feywild, so maybe if he tries to yank teeth, you can describe the bodies turning into light or poofing away into magic dust before he has a chance. You could even have it so that dying for NPCs/enemies isn't a mechanic in the feywild - people disappear or reincarnate or turn into trees or are simply knocked unconscious - or they run away!
My tl;dr is don't let him run the campaign for you - players should contribute to the world and the narrative, but ultimately you are the one running the session. If he won't listen to either your feelings or your alternative narration, he might not be a great suit for the party.
If it helps at all, I usually get players to fill in a checklist (X) to make it clear what's okay and what isn't for everyone at the table. If he still argues about the importance of consent checklists, thats a red flag in and of itself. I hope this helped!
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Brain going brrr for Shen Jiu food today sosisosl
So hear me out, modern au. Shen Jiu doesn’t remember anything of their past live(s) and is a relatively famous internet chef. Like he has a PO Box and everything for his fans to send gifts or letters for him to personally read and tell them either what to do or that he’s proud, he never shows his face though, a deathly fear of being found, but by who? His young son, Ming Fan, is all but excited to be Shen Jiu’s direct bloodline in this life. Shen Qingqiu was always his father figure in the first life, but the second he got hurt or something and started caring for that nasty LBH.
Sometimes, Shen Jiu feels unsafe when out on the street and going about his day to day life. He doesn’t know why but certain faces of public figures terrify him. A little lady on the street selling hand made jewelry and staring at him like she’s seen a ghost makes him physically sick. God, he despises the face of this rather famous actor, Luo Bing-something?? He hates this confusing feeling that seemed to come of nowhere. That doesn’t stop them from trying to approach once they see him.
Women in fancy clothes and strong perfume dote on him and he practically melts in their arms. Confused on how they know his name but more than happy to chat about life. They seem happy for him, ecstatic even! Men in suits ranging from serious CEO to flashy idols would stop their cars and holler at him for his time of day. He despises men like that and gives them no acknowledgement while he continues on his way. If he’s lucky they have a tight schedule, if not they follow him to the grocery store and corner him in the frozen section while he picks out treats for his son. Two men have tried that and were met with a smack by popsicles. Social media was set a blaz when videos of this Luo Binghe and Liu Qingge cornered the same man on different days and tried harassing him. Of course their stans refused to believe it was their fault. It MUST be the pretty man minding his business throughout the proof on the grocery camera. The companies dared to contact him afterwards and SJ happily sent back his lawyers information and video proof of their ‘important persons’ harassment and stalking.
One was bold enough to publicly announce that they were looking for him at a political event. Broadcasted nationwide. Shen Jiu felt nothing but disdain for that Yue man. Who says “I’m looking for a man I haven’t seen since I was young and dumb.” During a political conference?? Just because you know it’s being broadcasted!? His fans during a livestream asked what he thought about it and he angrily said that Yue man was a fool! An absolute clown for thinking that wishing some guy that doesn’t even know him will come looking for him just because he said his name!
He never had a bad experience with women until one scowled at him and he instinctively scowled back. He had his son with him that day and was trying to not be hounded. But this woman continued to follow him and berate his clothing, his hair. He could handle scrutiny of himself but the moment she said anything about Ming Fan, be it his appearance or his mother, he drew the line. Wiping around to face this despicable woman and spitting the iciest response he could without scaring Ming Fan. He remembered seeing her on a magazine before. Some model or washed up actress. God help her when he posts the body cam footage his partner made him wear after the second Grocery store incident. She scoffed at him and just continued to point and jeer at him. Wondering if the others were only following him for his pretty face. Others?? The men that harassed him and the girls that scurried with their tail between their legs?? Shen Jiu is starting to think it’s time to move. He desperately wants to mind his business and live his life but they seem adamant on harassing him.
So he does! He announces it on a video after the fact so that they can’t find him even if they try to. Perks of dating a rich ceo, anonymity is quite easy with money!
Shen Jiu happily married his now hubby and they have many more kids with Ming Fan adoring them all. He refuses to be nice to this one lady at his school that tries to be friendly with him and will run crying to SJ, who remembers her as the jewelry stand girl, and he immediately has his son in a different class. Life going well for the man who was claimed to be evil in past lives, meanwhile the others are crumbling day by day now that he’s missing and they can’t seem to find him, no matter what. (NYY may have stalked him to the remote village but she wouldn’t tell the others. She can’t risk making Shizun hate her more). The ones that harassed her were publicly pitted by their companies and forced to apologize to him specifically. When word got out that Shen Jiu vanished it did NOT look good for them.. LBH had the wrath of his mother and LQG had a mother and grandmother to fear. QQQ was fired and black listed from the media. She would have just apologized if she had insulted the man himself, but following and insulting the child too? The media scorned her already shitty gossip personality. Any time she tried to get on tv they would turn on his and snicker about her cancellation. YQY lived lavishly, but lonely. He had a political marriage and no children. He refused to touch his wife. No matter what she would say all he could do is smile and apologize. Work wise things were going well. Since they didn’t have a punching bag to push everything on and the other politicians seemed to work smoothly despite disagreements, he had no real need to focus on work 24/7. But he did. He was always in his office scouring the internet for Xiao Jiu.
SY and SQH weren’t mentioned because they literally wouldn’t do anything different from usual. They wouldn’t even meet their past life husbands (LBH would think SY is a fan and just give his usual charm and leave. He’s already found SJ, this man is just a fake clearly). SQH wouldn’t have the chance to get MBJ, the neet writer would see him once and fumble his words. Probably earning a scoff as MBJ walked off to go meet his peer/partner. The two millennials would probably bond online over a story and get close. Maybe a failed relationship but remained friends.
TLDR; Everyone reincarnated and their lives fall apart if they don’t change their attitude towards SJ. SJ doesn’t remember them and just wants to raise his baby MF in peace. Jobs are lost and public relations are plummeting because these fools couldn’t find healthier ways to reconnect with SJ.
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mrgreedyguts · 3 years
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Well, I finally got around to taking a look at the episode of the Harley Quinn show that supposedly acknowledges her Jewish upbringing.  Season one, episode 10, Bensonhurst.
It’s not really about the family being Jewish, but they are and they’re predictably horrible people.  I’m not an expert on comic Harley, but apparently her family have never been good people- so that’s not new at least.
Sucks that the Dad’s particular vice (surprise, surprise) has to do with money.  The Irish racism is.... very weird.  At first I thought maybe it was just him, but apparently the joke is that in Bensonhurst its okay to be racist to the Irish, as confirmed by the mother.  I personally have never lived there, but I can tell you that its not a Jewish thing and its really uncomfortable linking Jews with racism towards the Irish.  
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(Pictured:  A random montage of her father beating up Irish people, who are all kinda crappy stereotypes themselves.)
The horrible murders of the grandparents and everyone’s subsequent disinterest afterwards is pretty par the course for this show.  Not super stoked by it, but not specifically anti-Semitic.  
I’m really sick of the Jewish Mom Wanted Her Daughter To Marry A Doctor joke.  It just perpetuates the stereotype again that all Jews care about is money and status.  The stupid joke about the mother complaining she wasn’t able to go into real estate because a pant-suit costs too much is part of this too.
By the end, the parents pretty much just try to kill Harley, who declares she hates them and they’re no family of hers.  So... Not the best way to reveal she has Jewish parents?
I get that her family are supposed to be shitty people, but it certainly isn’t a positive exploration into her Jewish roots in any way.  This episode obviously doesn’t ‘make up’ for not mentioning her Judaism before for the same reason.
TLDR:  Her family are not only awful people but also awful representations of Jews.  Personally, I feel there is a way to represent people as being terrible human beings without resorting to Jewish stereotypes. 
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It seems with the whole Dan/ game grumps thing’s information was either misunderstood or misrepresented and in fact the women who was being spoken on behalf of on the Reddit post has come out and said she did not feel groomed and that he did not have sex with her directly after turning 18 but years later when she was 22. All other accounts were of other fans who we’re essentially used for sex/ hook ups and then ghosted afterwards and wail that sucks I’m pretty sure it’s not a crime, just a shitty thing famous people do.
Not that you need my validation in saying this but you’re allowed to still not like Dan for The hook ups and ghosting‘s just as you’re allowed to dislike literally any other celebrity ( or anyone for that matter) for the same reason. But he didn’t commit any crimes Beyond being an old man celebrity who likes to hook up with young women and ditching them afterwards. Not very uncommon tbh. If more comes out about this and this take is proven to be wrong I’ll gladly correct myself over it
Lastly I want to say, always believe victims first and foremost But if things start to not add up please don’t double down on your possibly miss lead anger. this kinda thing happened a few years ago with Johnny Depp as well except The victim in this case wasn’t the one who miss informed the public it was someone on her behalf and I’m not even sure the person in question identifies as a victim per se based off of the most previous statements.
TLDR: Dan is and old famous man who ghosted his hook ups who were considerably younger than him but all adults outside of their teenage years. As of right now grooming and pedophilia allegations are seemingly off the table
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insanelycooljk · 4 years
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j comes out 👀
send me the title of one of my deh wips and I’ll share an excerpt/tell you a bit about it 
This was just intended to be a short one-shot that I may or may not finish, but here’s the current summary:
Jared is finally ready to come out to his parents and tell them about the boy he’s dating. He just didn’t expect coming out to be the easy part.
it’s kleinsen ofc because uhh it’s me lol
So, Jared and Evan have been dating for a few months now and Jared is just... so happy and he wants to tell people damn it! He just loves this boy so much!
Also Heidi knows that they’re dating, so it’s just been making things really awkward whenever both of their families catch up.
Evan would never pressure Jared to come out before he’s ready, but Jared kind of gets the impression that Evan is a little insecure about it? Like, he gets the impression that maybe Evan wonders if the reason Jared hasn’t told his parents that they’re dating is because he’s embarrassed of him or something
Which obviously isn’t true, but first of all: that’s anxiety babyyy!! and second of all: given years of putting up with Jared’s teasing and shitty jokes and emotional problems? Not the most unreasonable conclusion to come to.
So a part of it for Jared is about wanting to show Evan that he loves him and he wants other people to know.
Anyway, Jared’s pretty nervous about coming out. Mostly because he’s not really sure how his parents are going to take it, but also because the Kleinmans just... do not do emotions. Not necessarily in a bad way, they just don’t ever talk about feelings. (hm I wonder where Jared got it from :/)
He decides he’s going to tell his mum first. So he tells her he’s gay and it actually goes suprisingly well.
Her immediate response is just “Oh. Well, I can’t say I’m surprised.”
She says it in a teasing way and she’s smiling, but Jared is almost kind of offended?
He’s just, he’s not like “sterotypically gay” and he thought he’d done a pretty decent job of hiding it over the years. I mean sure he never expressed any interest in any girls, but he never expressed interest in any guys to his parents either?
Until his mum tells him that he announced to her that he was going to marry Luke Skywalker when he was like 7 lmao. (Sweet boy with soft blonde hair and big blue eyes? That sounds awfully familiar!)
So they have a kind of nice conversation about it. It’s a little awkward sure because like I said the Kleinmans don’t do FeelingsTM, but it’s nice and Jared feels relieved because honestly he’d been bracing himself for the worst just incase.
It’s going so well that Jared then goes “Also... I have a boyfriend.”
And now his mum actually does look surprised, which kind of hurts because surely it can’t be that unbelievable that he’s dating someone.
But she’s still really supportive, and says something along the lines of
“That’s great Jared, I’m really happy for you. If you ever want to invite him over for dinner, I’d love to meet him.”
And then is Jared all... ok so here’s the thing lmao.
“Actually, um, it’s Evan.”
And here’s where the angst part of this factors in. Because Jared’s mum just kind of... doesn’t really believe him.
She’s just like “Evan Evan?”
And Jared’s getting kind of annoyed now.  “Yes, Evan Evan.” He feels all hot and his cheeks are flushed because this is so humiliating, is it really that hard to believe that Evan would like him?
Cause here’s the thing with Jared’s parents and Evan. Growing up they’d always kind of praise him as being so polite and such a good kid, which eventually became more of a passive aggressive jab at Jared which really meant - why can’t you be more polite and well-mannered like Evan?
A lot of adults tend to baby Evan because of his anxiety and kind of assume that he can do no wrong. Like, if Jared and Evan ever did something together as kids and got in trouble, it would always be Jared’s fault. Regardless of what really happened, because the adults would just assume Jared was being a bad influence on poor, sweet Evan.
Oh boy, if Jared’s parents ever found out the truth about The Connor Project? They’d absolutely assume it was all Jared’s fault because they couldn’t possibly imagine Evan ever doing something so horrible.
ANYWAY, basically Jared’s mum thinks Evan is too good for Jared.
Which his mum actually says to him. Jared’s mum has always been blunt, but this just feels cruel. Because god if that doesn’t hit all of his biggest insecurities.
And like, He knows, Jared fucking knows that Evan’s too good for him, but hearing it from his own mother? Knowing that this seemingly universal truth is so obvious that even other people can see it? Ouch.
So yeah, the rest of that conversation doesn’t go particulary well :( If I was feeling nice I might write a second chapter of Evan comforting and reassuring Jared afterwards lol.
So tldr? Coming out goes well, but trying to convince his parents that Evan actually likes him and isn’t just dating Jared because he’s incapable of saying no? Less successful.
I’m sorry I got a little carried away with this one lmao, but now I’m thinking I might actually finish writing it so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  we will see
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Okay. I’m almost done with season 2 and have no one to talk about it with... but there’s one thing that sticks with me: Is it bad that I like Ava x Boyd WAY more than I like Raylan x Winona?
it’s not bad at all anon!! i totally agree with you! i like ava x boyd because they’re really well matched for each other and there’s a real sense of mutual respect between them, and i think the thing about winona x raylan is that...they divorced for a reason? they divorced because raylan was too attached to his job and winona didn’t want to live with a man who was constantly putting his own life at risk.
also, when they get back together, raylan is back home for the first time in years and having to deal with a LOT of old stuff that’s just coming back to the surface (arlo, helen, boyd, the entirety of harlan, and so on and so forth), which are exacerbated in s2 with the bennett family and all THAT stuff getting pulled to the fore, not to mention winona’s issues with gary and the money that she stole from evidence. i don’t doubt that when they first met each other and got married they loved each other and i don’t doubt they still love each other after they’re together again BUT i feel like both of them were just grasping for the life they used to have and kind of refusing to admit that they weren’t ever going to have it like that again. it was like a pretty big stretch of denial for winona to be like “literally nothing about raylan has changed but here i go again”
i don’t really harbour any ill will towards winona, although i do still think that when she went to his motel in season 1 and had sex with him and then just...left...immediately afterwards, that was really shitty of her. she KNEW he would go along with it and he wouldn’t try to stop her because he has 1 brain cell
idk i just think. they love each other to some degree the whole time, but they’re not good for each other at this point? raylan hasn’t changed at all, he’s still the same man she left and in a worse place for it because he’s back in kentucky against his will, and winona has her own problems with gary and is stuck between knowing she left raylan for good reasons and wanting to have it back the way it used to be with him because gary isn’t providing the easy, worry-free life she expected
anyways this got long but tldr i agree with you, i have A LOT of feelings about raylan x winona, and boyd x ava is superior forever
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joemazzhello · 5 years
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i wanted to write some sappy shit about how much Joe means to me so i’m putting it below the cut so you don’t have to burn your eyes reading it if you don’t want to because it’s very long and very cringy 
edit from after i wrote this: wow i feel awkward maybe publishing this because it made me quite emotional and it’s literally only been a month but i would def recommend to people to write out your feelings, this has helped me a lot. If you do, tag me in it because I would love to read your experiences with the movie, band, or the boys! 
ok so honestly i’m very new to Joe’s work (apart from watching Jurassic Park obvs) but he already means a lot to me so i’m just going to try and express this the best way i can.
Since I was 12(?), my friends have called me obsessed with men, which i don’t argue and i think is funny, because it’s totally true. I have a list of 41 celebrities I love on my phone and my billboard next to my bed is covered with magazine covers of some of these men. While i think they are hot, i’ve never felt the way about them the way i do about joe.
When I went to see Bohemian Rhapsody, I was not excited. I wasn’t a fan of Queen and the movie had been getting mixed reviews. Afterwards I thought the movie was good (far from the best movie ever) but it did make me want to listen to Queen. So thats exactly what I did for weeks, and when I got bored, I would watch the music videos on youtube, which led me to interviews. Then it went downhill (or uphill, depending on how you look at it).
I had known Rami from Night at the Museum (one of my favs) and had a crush on him in that movie (who didn’t). So I watched a load of interviews with him because I knew him which led me to loving the whole cast. Then Gwilym stood out to me because he’s more conventionally attractive I would say. I actually never had a crush on Ben (sorry) but I loved, and still love, the whole cast. 
Then as I started to actually get into the band members, John stood out to me. I definitely think John is the best member of Queen. I love his songs and his skills are amazing. Don’t get me wrong everyone in Queen is amazing but I think I can just relate to John a lot so he stands out. Anyway, that meant that when I watched the movie again, I stared at Joe the whole time.
After that I was just gone with Joe. Any interview you watch he stands out as funny, kind, intelligent, and so passionate about what he does. I went down my usual route of what I do when I find people attractive. Watch any interview ever, screenshot all the pictures I can find, follow the stans on tumblr, and put them as my background on my phone. But seeing the love for the cast and the band on here, I felt more love towards Joe than any other celeb I’ve crushed on and I finally caved, making this sideblog, going further than I have ever gone before for a celebrity crush.
This year has been a pretty shitty year for me. I’ve been so stressed for it to not work out leaving me feeling pretty depressed and feeling like I’m stuck. Nothing serious, but enough to make me feel low most of the time. I mostly feel as if I have nothing to look forward to in life.
Now this is going to be very cringy and cheesy and I know me in 5 years (or maybe even a week from now) will hate myself for writing this (thats what secret sideblogs are for right?) but seeing Joe with his passion and laughter has made me think a lot about who I want to be. Unlike any other celeb I’ve crushed on (out of 40!) I can see myself having a future with someone like Joe, and he has reignited my want for family and someone who loves and respects me (also he’s really hot). I am not a huggy or touchy person and I find it hard a lot of the time to think myself wanting to be cuddly with someone. But when I think of Joe I can imagine me being like that, just wanting to be as close as possible. Mainly, that dastardly picture of him with those little boys has wrecked me about a million times thinking about how I want my future to look. He has been through so much recently but continues to laugh and smile which really inspires me. While I would love to be with Joe, the most important thing is he has reminded me of how I want to live my life and what I (hopefully) have to look forward to.
With that cringefest over (r/sadcringe am i right) I wanna say thanks for the support on this blog and lets hope I don’t just get over Joe like all my other crushes but honestly I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Also if you read this whole thing you are crazy and I love you.
TLDR: I love Joe with every fibre of my being 
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meandcptsd · 5 years
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Getting Better
Yesterday was thirteen years since the straw broke the camel’s back and I told my dad that I hated him and never wanted to see him again. It’s very weird thinking that in two more years, I’ll have lived half my life with him in my life and half without, but that’s not really true. I don’t remember my baby-age 3 life aside from a slip of memory here and there, and for the majority of my childhood, my dad wasn’t there. He was at work, or at his computer, and the times that he was around, it was 50-50 that it would be either really fun or totally shitty.  And so it’s always a weird day when I get to that day, because on one hand it’s like my own personal Independence Day, even if it came at such a high cost and things got progressively worse mental and physical health-wise for me for a few years afterwards.  But I made it out alive, and that’s the important thing. I remember my 18th birthday feeling so surreal because a few months earlier, I was 100% sure that I was never going to make it to 18 because I was too tired. My depression and insomnia had reached their max (I had slept at most four hours a night for six months), and once I was forced into quitting my apprenticeship, the one part of my life at time that gave me any sense of joy or self, it was less than a week before I was in a psych ward, with random words scratched into the ceiling or my room (it was so cliche, I remember thinking it was hilarious), and no access to fresh air or music, and what felt like a dozen specialists who were of varying degrees of help (a massive FUCK YOU to the doctor who groped me during my physical; thank you to the social worker who believed and helped me after as I rage-cried about how someone could work in a CHILDREN’S EMERGENCY MENTAL HEALTH WARD and take advantage of literally some of the most vulnerable people on the planet).  And now I look at myself, and I think about that question that therapists have sometimes asked me--what would you say to your suicidal 17-year-old self? I think I would smile at her, but not hug her. I think she’d be too angry and distrusting to want that. But I think I’d tell her that she has no idea of what she’s going to do in the next few years, in the truly short term. 
“You’re going to go to Japan. You’re going to become fluent in a foreign language that you’ve never even studied at this point, to the point where you dream in it and you’re going to meet friends from around the world who will help prop you up and love you and you’re going to fall in love with a fantastically creative boy who will help you figure out how to be a better person in the future even though it doesn’t work out in the end. You’re going to work in restaurants around the world, you’re going to go to Ireland and end up living on a remote island next to wild seas where you forage periwinkles for a dinner for German tourists on your first night. You’re going to learn how to sing. You’re going to get to live in the same city as your best friend, and travel with her around the world. You’re going to learn about tea and how it’s magic. You’re going to go on an epic road trip with amazing friends. You’re going to get arrested for something inconsequential. You’re going to get a tattoo. You’re going to go to cooking school. But most importantly, you’re going to still care about people and have the capacity to believe in humanity. And you’re going to do that through making people food.”
(And by that point, I’d probably be crying with pride and 17-year-old me would probably be crying with frustration and fear and hope, so I’d probably give her a hug then, if she wanted one.)
So after a bit of wallowing yesterday, I thought to myself, it’s been a hard week for my roommate and me--we deserve a great meal! And it was so sunny with all that promise of spring in the air, so I made my own version of “Le Grand Aioli.”  It’s everything I like in a meal--finger food centered around a sauce, way too much food to be consumed in one sitting, so you can sit for hours and just languidly pick at it, vegetable heavy if you want, involving a roast chicken (for me more accessible than getting fish, which is more traditional), and there are roast potatoes that you’ll get to eat cold with garlic mayonnaise the next morning. It’s celebratory and easy and pretty hands-off and afterwards everyone is happy and sleepy and we all just melted into the couch trying to decide what to watch on Netflix before the Internet peaced out and we ended up just going to bed early. 
And then I woke up to a platter of cold roast chicken, green beans, radishes, lettuce, potatoes, and aioli, and if that isn’t a small slice of heaven, then I don’t know what is.
It really, truly for the first time, feels like I’ve got my feet on solid ground. I have wonderful, bountifully kind friends. My body feels like it is actually present, and I’m sleeping not too much or too little. I’m about to take on two projects that I’m really passionate about, and I have an incredible roommate who is so generous with her attention and spirit and zestiness (that’s like the highest compliment I can give XD) and I live in a great neighborhood around the corner from my best friends in the city, and it is almost my season! Can’t wait for all those daffodils =)  So tldr; I feel like instead of being eaten by CPTSD yesterday, I was just Gwynnie and it felt freaking fantastic. Time to go drink coffee and dance with Marloaf to the Beatles.
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sorry if this topic makes u uncomfy, if it does u can totally ignore it :] but thoughts on dream’s apology for the political drama stuff? i personally like dream and will continue to watch his content, but i think his apology wasn’t the best. though he did share an account with another person, there was also proof that he wrote a lot of those tr*mpie comments. and i didn’t rly like how he kinda swept the whole thing under a rug and tweeted abt that george as a girl pic after. obviously he’s changed a lot, so i think it’s dumb for anyone to attack him but i’m not sure why he didn’t just own up to the stuff and apologized
I think he did pretty much admit that the account was his and the posts were his however him being blunt would have been appreciated. My cousin grew up in Florida and up until recently was a trump stan and I know that Florida is one of the many states that growing up you were told that trump was right. I'm not excusing shitty comments but I'm giving a possible reason to explain why that was his opinion. I do think it has a lot to do with who you grow up with. Nature Vs Nurture.
Dream is known to get into drama, address it quick(which I'm grateful for) and then either stream or tweet something to calm fans and to show the concerned ones that he's fine. Not that it's a bad thing but can come off as him doing the bare minimum and then moving on.
In my opinion he has visibly grown in the past year. And is a lot calmer and level headed when people want him to address something Vs previously when he'd lash out.
If someone no longer feels comfortable watching him that's fine however if you want to watch him due to comfort or fixations I genuinely recommend blocking as many words on all social media sites and watching favourite clips and vods.
TLDR: It was nice he actually addressed fan concerns but it would have benefitted him to be more blunt. I think he tweets or streams afterwards as an "I'm okay" for fans rather than to distract.
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ssaalexblake · 7 years
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What's your opinion on Karen Page? AJAKSKKSKS
I have some random half formed opinions on Karen, and the Daredevil narrative for her in general. And maybe how the defenders writing didn’t really mesh with how she’d been portrayed before, and if it did, then it showed her in a vaguely hypocritical light. 
Also, she’s a legit straight up murderer and it’s kind of vaguely hilarious in an ironic way that she now works for a living digging up other peoples dirt, because she honestly wants to see justice done. She’s not somebody who wakes up in the morning thinking something malevolent, she’s by all accounts, somebody who has aspirations of goodness. Her moral grayness her so much more interesting in that light, tbh. 
(but, like, honestly, I neither like nor dislike Karen, she doesn’t particularly grab me but i don’t you know, hate her or anything, i’m just personally not captivated). 
Anyway, I’ve been listening to a podcast lately hosted by 2 bona fide behavioural analysts (jim clemente and Laura Richards) and honestly, hearing them talk about it, while simultaneously watching S2 of Daredevil, was thought provoking. 
We know that Karen murdered a man, afterwards she was traumatized by his actions (the kidnapping and threats against her) and that she was even more traumatized by her own actions, she just gunned him down, The End. The show could have painted this in a number of ways, but imo it clearly painted this as a murder, to be honest. I mean, he was victimising her at the time, but this shock killing was not narratively described as a valiant bid for freedom where a woman shoots herself out of a hostage situation. It’s painted as Karen shooting him, and her being left alone in a room with a gun and a blood soaked body. 
She’s terrified she’d get found out. I haven’t seen that season for a long time now, but also, i think it’s relevant that a chunk of her fear after this was fear about what Fisk would do if he found out she did it, and for her own safety thereafter, rather than the action of killing a man.
In that light, fashforward to season 2 and the intro of Frank Castle. Karen is the character in the entire show who is the most okay with Frank. She sees Frank’s honour code and understands it, she isn’t afraid of him harming her despite him being genuinely terrifying. She also isn’t nearly as bothered by his methodology as the others. Frank believes killing the wrongdoers is the apt solution to Hell’s Kitchen’s problems (and anywhere, really). 
It’s interesting, because, throughout the whole time Nelson and murdock are defending Castle, she is trying to convince Matt and Foggy of the merits to his actions. She’s trying to justify it. This is why I mentioned the podcast, because in it, they explain that people who have thoughts and feelings that are generally considered by society to be abhorrent or wrong (and i mean, actual fucked up things, not shitty bigotry) they will attempt to find the same behaviour in others they trust and respect, to prove to themselves that they’re not Bad™. 
Karen, with both Foggy and Matt, the two she is closest to in Hell’s Kitchen (in the world really), BOTH get this line of questioning from her, where she tries to get them to admit that hey! maybe killing bad people is okay and fine. This, to me, seems that Karen is looking for some kind of absolution. Not the kind where she denounces what she did, or what Frank did, but the kind where others prove her ‘correct’ and absolve her of her sins by justifying them. The kind where she doesn’t have to feel bad or be in trouble for her actions. 
In the end, Matt and Foggy, having no clue all the while that this is personal to her, brush off every justification she gives, both of them basically going ‘what the hell! no! bad!’. Because while matt is a vigilante, he’s also one who does not approve of being judge jury and executioner. Foggy was even less likely than Matt to play part to that line of thinking, because he thinks Matt goes too far, let alone Castle. Them doing this, rejecting her without even knowing it, leads Karen smack into the figurative arms of Frank Castli, who is obviously intimidating to her, and goes too far in her eyes, and freaks her out, but he’s the  one she’s most in tune with. Her philosophy is far closer to his than it is to Matt and Foggy. Frank even says it himself, he knows she’d have taken the shot, she means business, even if it’s lethal. 
I have no idea what to say about Karen and Matt. Narratively it’s never made sense to me, and i honestly thought that her reaction in the defenders to him needed a hell of a lot of background filling out between daredevil s2 & this show to make sense. It needed background we weren’t given, but Karen’s /always/ been pro daredevil, we needed a filler to tell us what happened in that gap of time to cause her to treat matt’s vigilantism as an addiction. Foggy, Foggy it made perfect sense because there was background, with Karen who had always been pro devil, it needed explaining. As it is, it kind of came across as Karen being pro vigilante as long as it’s not her friend, which is kind of harsh? It can ruin somebody else’s life but not somebody who i like? Which they could have done, but i’ve also never really thought of karen as selfish in that type of sense, either. 
But, honestly, i feel like the main facet of Karen’s character, her absolute defining trait, is curiosity. 
Karen’s curiosity knows no bounds, and i mean that. No bounds. Karen got into trouble in the first place in episode one because she saw something and didn’t let it go (she continues to not let it go the whole season, even when she’s warned, even when it’s dangerous, through everything). It’s interesting, because Karen’s curiosity doesn’t appear to have much more ground  than wanting to know things, she’s a Ravenclaw type, you know? Her curiosity isn’t really tied to morality, or special interest, he is just curious. 
Unfortunately, her curiosity isn’t necessarily tempered by a hell of a lot of forethought. She drags Ben to a nursing home because she dug something up, and when i say drag, i mean lies and tricks!!! Ben there with her, being pretty damn underhand tbh, i mean, it was low. And then Ben’s name ends up in the log book and then because of that, Ben is murdered. 
That was an example of Karen being driven by her curiosity, bullheaded, and not thinking it though. In S2, the person she gets in trouble at the end of the season is herself. She does it again. Curiosity with no heed to consequence. She is merely lucky Frank saved her. 
I mean, narratively, Karen ending up a reporter is perfect for her as a person, i’m not surprised we ended up there. She is bullheadedly curious, she is tough as nails (hello that kidnapping by the hand), and will legit do any dangerous thing to get her story. She also is curious for curiosity’s sake, so her boss doesn’t really run the risk of her only researching one thing or causing a moral shitstorm. 
I’ve never really seen the show as portraying Karen as a moral goodness or whatever cliches come with the blonde noncombatant tropes in these types of stories, to me, Karen’s never really been the goodness personified in the show. To me, that is Foggy. I like it, to be honest, because lets be real, the blonde haired blue eyed ~angelic looking woman, not being the epitome of goodness??? 
I wouldn’t call Karen moral, i would call Karen curious, with aspirations of goodness. She wants to be a good person, but she’s thoughtless and chaotic and sometimes just kind of… amoral. No other real way to put it. I’ve also never really seen the  show as portraying her as the goodness centre, i mean, i can see how the other characters would think it about her, but the audience? We know more about her than them. 
Foggy and Matt don’t know she killed somebody. Her boss doesn’t know that. The stuff with Ben? that’s for us to know, too. We’re the keepers of Karen’s secrets, not the other characters. As such, the way they treat her as special and good in the show doesn’t bug me too much, from their pov, it probably looks that way, it’d annoy me if she got a good job and the show tried to tell me it’s because she’s a ~good~ person and deserved it, but imo, the show has not done that. 
Her ~aspirations of goodness are all the more interesting, imo, because she does not appear to have them as some kind of attempt at penance. That would make it redemption, or an attempt at it. She’s not trying to redeem herself. 
tldr, , i think Karen is curious, chaotic, wants so hard to be good, but finds herself coming up short and is scared of it. I also think the only person in the universe who accurately has her number is Frank. And also, that even if Matt’s vigilantism hadn’t destroyed their personal relationship, that in the end, the total polar opposite creeds they both have would have done the same thing in the end. 
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callout for fish/vile (deadfishirl/grovylethetheif/dimensionalhole/vocaloid4editor)
i decided to make this because the amount of shit he has done has jst gotten out of hand and i just want people to be aware of what hes done
hes also known as nepTUNE on youtube and soundcloud and is an amateur vocaloid producer
EDIT: he just changed his url to vocaloid4editor (1st of feburary 2017)
tw for: emotional abuse, suicide ment, slurs and racism
before anything, i would like to note that fish is 15 and us writing this are 14-16 with the exception of one person who is 17. i have known fish since around feb-march 2016 with the majority of these incidents listed from the past month (as of writing on the 30th-31st of january). 
guilt tripping
this has been a major issue with many people he has known and he even acknowledges this but has not stopped in the slightest. his guilt tripping often involves his negative/suicidal thoughts.
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these are the tags of a recently posted selfie showing guilt tripping towards his followers (link)
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guilt tripping towards a mutual and even though it is said as a joke it is still subtle manipulation leading to said mutual feeling guilty adding fish to their list of favourite producers (post has since been deleted)
these following screenshots are from a former friend of fish, rin, of conversations between the two of them, with rin being the blue.
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these show only two of many various times that fish has, excuse lack of a better word, fished for compliments. this is a common occurrence in conversations between fish and other people. he often complains that he doesnt sing well while another day he would be constantly talking about how good he is at it and how hes had 5 years of singing training
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jokes about sans which made rin very uncomfortable at the time and yet fish just disregarded this which was really shitty of him at the time. this was because sans and anything related to him gave rin deep anxiety and panic due to trauma.
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this is. pretty self explanatory tbh
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guilt tripping into rin staying friends with him
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originally rin rbed this tag meme back when he was still fish’s friend and literally and genuinely forgot to add him but minutes later he was sent this ask seen below
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which is more guilt tripping considering if he didnt have a problem with it then he wouldnt have sent an ask in the first place
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more testimony from rin, self explanatory 
this is more guilt tripping from fish (this time on the sideblog animositysuggestions) towards another friend of mine.
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my friend had been extremely vocal about being uncomfortable with the people who id as their ccs on both discord and tumblr, where fish could see as this included a group chat he was in with all of us. the particular character this about was and is a hyperfixation of my friends atm. however, the day after this, fish went and made a post saying ‘i wonder what (my friend) would do if i started to id as (friend’s current cc)’ and even when being aware this friend has stated that they know said cc because they were friends prior to gaining the cc. seeing this, my friend replied to fish’s post saying, ‘i would literally have unfollow you’, and so did a mutual friend of everyone who KNEW like everybody else the original friend would be uncomfortable. fish then rbed this just saying ‘thanks guys’ and then deleted the post afterwards, and then made the above post on the sideblog.
comparing himself to an abuser
fish has made several comparisons between himself and wander (as seen below) which should automatically be a red flag for anyone who knows what happened with wander (jollywander/kingwander, etc)
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racism
fish, who is white has called himself a weeb/aboo many times like below as an example.
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the term 'weeb/aboo' has racist connotations for it is associated w cultural appropriation, racism, fetishization, yellowface and many more. in short, he's calling himself a term he can't reclaim which is also associated with racist people who fetishize asian people and their culture.
he also has used words such as ‘engrish’ which are words that make fun of non native english speakers’ (usually asian people) pronounciation of the ‘l’ sound as seen below
keep in mind that there were three asian people in the gc and fish KNEW they both were.
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other/misc
testimonials from ex friend ghost (x) and ex boyfriend allen (x)
he has also lied about committing suicide and admitted to it as seen below
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and he compared "not having friends" with homelessness which are both different things that aren’t related in the slightest and shouldn’t be compared with each other. adding on, people have personality disorders that cause them to require attention in order to function / feel happy (npd + bpd + dpd etc.) and yeah, fish might have bpd, but the thing is he shouldn’t have said that kind of thing anyways. 
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this screenshot below was a conversation between fish and i (before i remade) trying to comfort him and yet he just throws it back in my face and made me extremely uncomfortable  
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tldr; fish is emotionally manipulative and racist, guilt tripping and threatening his friends with death/suicide ideation.
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