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if anybody wonders if having fictionkin past lives makes watching media hard: I'm absolutely petrified of Madoka Magica because I know I (the Prism) kin Homura but I'm nowhere near mentally stable enough to take in what's most likely the epicenter of our timeloop traumas, and it'll probably be a couple years at the very least until we're able to do that, so yeah. mixed bag
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pulling out the last few responses on this post because it is very long and it's bulk is irrelevant to these
💌share something with us about an up-and-coming work (WIP) that has you excited!
timeloop AU!! (prev)
timeloop AU will be 3 chapters + an epilogue. first chapter is Kim POV, the second one is Big POV, and third is Chay POV. Kim is the first one trapped in the timeloop. Big joins him later. Chay never does.
💌share something with us about an up-and-coming work (WIP) that has you excited!
in my fic Single Star Review, Khun goes to university and then starts seeking extra therapy help. i am Extremely excited for this one, but one of my favorite-favorite parts of it is Khun dismissively says "it's not like i can call Kim and gossip about boys" and Flop (the therapist, no that's not actually his name) asks Khun "why not" and Khun stares through a wall for a solid three minutes realizing hey, he CAN call Kim to talk about boys actually.
-later that night-
Khun: Kim! Kimmy-Kim my littlest kin! forget your other plans, tonight we are painting our nails and gossiping about BOYS
Kim: what the fuck
Khun: my therapist thinks i should try talking to you about stuff
Kim: THERAPIST?!
Khun: THAT'S NOT THE IMPORTANT PART HOW DO I HANDLE HAVING A CRUSH
(Kim is, ofc, over the moon and extremely excited when his brain catches up with his ears, even though he's a total little brother about it.)
💌share something with us about an up-and-coming work (WIP) that has you excited!
Red Line fic is the first installment of a 4-fic series (tortoise is laughing at me for thinking it'd stop with 1). mostly because it immediately dived into one of my favorite variations for how Chay kills Korn.
Korn's death is not a fix-it.
#or rather. it wont be for a while.#its gonna hurt a lot first.#im so excited >:)#fic: red line#timeloop AU#fic: single star review
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Examining Fyodor Vitin's "Mask" post
This collects various notes written while trying to analyse the post by Vitin from May 26th, 2023, where Vitin showed us the photo of an Executor mask and shared an interesting, but untranslated phrase from the Steppe language.
I wasn't able to arrive at any conclusions that, I think, would be able to move the ARG - to get that out of the way - but I thought to share the gathered material anyways, for anyone interested. Due to its sheer length, the entire thing is under the cut.
The Doomed City
We have since found out that the ARG contains parallels to the novel The Doomed City by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky.
In the book, the main character is Andrei Voronin, an astronomer from Leningrad.
Andrei Voronin was the solution to Zimin's "riddle," where we were required to find out the only person who was authorised by Vitin to speak on his behalf. Someone "A." was the answer.
Back then, we initially assumed Katzman to be the right answer due to 1) Vitin referring to him as "my good friend and colleague" 2) Zimin's initials, A.V., were assumed to make him a parallel to Andrei Voronin, therefore Vitin's friend would be Katzman… presumably? (Turned out to be wrong..)
In the novel, Voronin lives in the titular Doomed City, which is surrounded by a swamp and a desert. Eventually, he and his sceptical friend, Izya (Izia) Katzman lead an expedition to explore the desert. The expedition ends tragically, with Katzman and Voronin being the last survivors; however, they find out that the desert contained many ruins of Earth cultures, showing that this mysterious world of the City is actually very old and was previously inhabited by humans. On the border of the world, Andrei apparently dies by trying to shoot at his double; however, he suddenly returns to Leningrad, where the person who recruited him into this mysterious world tells him that he passed the first circle, but "there are many of them ahead". The themes of a ruined world and potential timeloops seem to be ever-present in Pathologic 2.
Dosoo ba beshē tēēhēē
According to Vitin, this is the name of "a seasonal festival of the central region's steppe people".
This phrase is probably, at least partially, based on Buryat language. (If you speak Buryat, please hit me up!)
I've seen around a lot of people interpreting it as having something to do with the number seven. I wasn't able to find the source of these claims, or figure out the connection. If you know more about what was this theory, let me know!
All meanings of the words are referenced from this dictionary: Burlang.Toli
"Dosoo" might be equivalent to "досоо", which could mean: 1) Insides, internal organs; 2) Soul (metaphorical); 3) Other contextual meanings related to being inside of something
"ba" is probably "ба", which means "and"
"beshē" is used in Pathologic 2 in context of "no," "not," disagreement: 1) from Pathologic Wiki: "Ime beshe (Имэ бэшэ) — it's not that, it's not like that"; 2) From conversations with Taya Tycheek:
Taya: I'll be the Mistress of Bulls.
Haruspex: How about "Mistress of the Kin," instead?
Taya: Beshe, beshe… And who will you be?
"beshē" is also, of course, similar to the word "бэшэ" from Buryat, which means: 1) Other, different, the rest. Example: "бэшэ нүхэдшни хаанаб?" - "where are your other friends?"; 2) A grammatical particle reverting the meaning of a word or a sentence, usually in context of two things opposing each other. Example: "Мэдээжэ ба мэдээжэ бэшэ" - "Known and unknown"
"tēēhēē" is a tough one, as I haven't been able to find any transliteration that would get me anything out of the Buryat dictionary, and this word has seemingly never been spoken in Pathologic 1 or 2. Most similar I've found were "тэхэ" - a goat; "тиихэ", same as "тиигэхэ", which is a default form of a word with many meanings, related to "to do something the implied way": for example, has such forms as "тиигүүжэм" - "I will do something in this way"; "тиигэ" - "Do it, let's do it", expressing agreement; "нүхэр болохоёо тиигэнэ гүш?" - "You wish to become a friend?"
A crude translation then could either be: "inside and other tēēhēē" (meaning or related to inside and outside???); or, "Inside and not (tēēhēē)" (or non-tēēhēē, un-tēēhēē etc). The second option is closer to the usage of "бэшэ" in Pathologic, however, in the real Buryat, the grammatical particle "бэшэ" only has the "reverse the meaning of the word next to it" effect when the word it reverses is before бэшэ (ex.: "мэдээжэ" - known, "мэдээжэ бэшэ" - unknown). This could potentially (highlighting doubt in this theory) mean that in the Pathologic's Steppe Language, "бэшэ" cancels the word after it, unlike in Buryat. However, the known Steppe phrase "Ime beshe", meaning "it's not that", in my opinion contradicts this conclusion..? (Ime or имэ is not a real Buryat word, as far as I can tell.)
Interesting but unrelated example from Buryat language: "муу бэшэ" - "not bad, satisfying", бэшэ here reversing the meaning of муу, as per one of the meanings of that word listed in the paragraph above.
And now, for a smoother transition into the next part, let's also examine the Wicked Bird mentioned in the same post, Muu Shubuun: "муу" (muu) is the Buryat word for bad, evil, wicked; "шубуу(н)" means a bird or related to birds. Literally, the bad bird.
The Wicked Bird and Suok
We don't actually get a lot of information about Muu Shubuun from Patho2, the most extensive mention of it being this exchange between Mark Immortel and Artemy Burakh:
Immortell: We have a ton of steppe theatre costumes in the storeroom. Especially those wicked birds, Muu Shubuun. The ones that symbolize death. Do steppe people like the play with death?
Haruspex: Muu Shubuun is not a mask of death. It's actually more about life.
The meaning of that isn't clear - an executor, wearing the Muu Shubuun mask, appears in the Marble Nest frequently, trying to convince the Bachelor to accept death.
Muu Shubuun is not mentioned in Pathologic 1.
In Pathologic 2, "types" of Townsfolk are named after various birds: Crows, Nightjars, Pigeons, Doves, Finches, Geese etc.
Back to Vitin's "Mask" post:
Inside was a massive bone mask in the shape of a bird's skull. This particular fétiche was probably carved in the likeness of Muu Shubuun, the Wicked Bird. The first known mention of it is associated with the dosoo ba beshē tēēhēē, a seasonal festival of the central region's steppe people. The image itself is presumed to be much older, tracing back to one of the oldest creation myths.
So the festival, the name of which we've tried to piece together, could potentially be related to the Baur Meges, the Steppe religion's world-creation legend.
Per Baur Meges, Bos Turokh has existed before the universe did, but at some point, Suok, the personifiction of evil, has appeared up from abyss, "filling the world with herself." She devoured all the stars and the light, for which Bos Turokh has devoured her. Since then, Suok remains to be inside Bos Turokh, "trying in vain to consume him from within his tight embrace." This event has also led to the creation of the Universe, Wheel (so that all be destined to return to the beginning), Law (to shut Suok to eternal imprisoment?), Fear (to exgorge his pain), and Time.
We don't really know of Muu Shubuun's place in Baur Meges and other Steppe mythology. We could assume the Shubuun, or an "older" version of it, is somehow related to one of the two characters in Baur Meges, in which case it's likely to be Suok, the evil.
Suok is also associated with the Sand Pest, and the other way around: the Sand Pest is treated as a living creature.
The Sand Pest manifests as a person in the theatre's Muu Shubuuk costume.
Although the specifics of the Steppe mythology on the topic aren't known, either way, we can conclude there is a rather strong connection between Muu Shubuuk and Suok.
Tying everything together
Per Baur Meges, Suok is now entrapped inside the World Bull. I suspect the name of the festival includes the word with the meaning of or related to "inside": "dosoo".
Muu Shubuun(?) / Executor / Beakhead speaks to the Bachelor at the conclusion of each day in The Marble Nest. The Bachelor is famously trapped in a loop, potentially not unlikely Andrei Voronin from The Doomed City.
At the same time, one Mr. Katzman has recently returned from an expedition, drawing an another parallel to the events of The Doomed City. This might imply that Pathologic's Katzman has avoided entering any sort of a time/narrative loop?, but an another character might've moved on to the next "circle".
A., in reference to Andrei Voronin, is the "correct" ARG player's name, to which Zimin had responded in ways that advanced the plot. What does this mean that the player is associated with someone entering time loops, while also playing through time loops in The Marble Nest?
Further research can be done into:
Connections of bird-named Townsfolk, Muu Shubuun, Suok, the Plague;
The role of the "Mentor", the person who has recruited Andrei Voronin into the mysterious world of The Doomed City, and parallels with Muu Shubuun? (Have not read the full text of the book tbh.)
Examining Suok's role, looking for potential meanings of "Dosoo ba beshē tēēhēē" festival in Herb Bribes' actions and dialogue due to their connection to Suok.
"Muu Shubuun is not a mask of death. It's actually more about life." Why?
Feedback greatly appreciated. It doesn't seem like we're getting a lot of actual progress from the ARG now, but at least the crumbs of lore still seem to be there. :]
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okay. here's the list of pmmm headcanons, because it's 4am:
madoka is a femme lesbian who uses she/fae. and she's trans. very pog. the character of all time.
homura is a butch lesbian, aro (i know canonially, if anything, she's ace, but this is kin projection and i also just think it'd be cool), and nonbinary. doesn't care much about pronouns, mostly because she's been too busy stuck in timeloops to care about them.
sayaka is bi and nonBInary. they/them. it's canon in my brain. sayaka thinks cargo shorts and hawaiian shirts are the pinnacle of fashion.
kyoko is a lesbian and doesn't care about gender. just here to have a good time.
mami is a wildcard in my brain. i mostly think of her as aroace and think it would be super funny if she was the only cis one.
nagisa is a Creature. that is all. no elaboration needed.
kyubey is nonbinary, but evil, and simulatonously transphobic at the same time. probably like a transmed in the weird "wow, you're not trans abd not miserable? clearly, you are Fake Trans" way. he also says slurs.
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biting you harder. i'm gonna rip your arm off but in like. an affectionate way -ww
Please don't I kin Gyrus Axelei but not that much. I am not smart enough to make a fancy robot arm for myself until it magically comes back with the power of escaping the inner layer of a timeloop pocket dimension.
You have no idea what I'm saying do you
#does. does this count as spoilers#you're probably never gonna read ros its fine#this joke isn't funny I apologise
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Kin memories worse then canon?
I was stuck in a mini timeloop and lived my little story of evil like 12 times over and over again and died and watched my brother die and my father figure die
It was so much worse then canon :(
-Riliane Lucifen d'Autriche #🌙✨❄️
#fictionkinfessions#fictionkin#🌙✨❄️#rilianelucifendautrichekin#evilliouschronicleskin#time loops cw#death cw#mod party cat
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Persona 5 Roleswap Canon Call
[Zuko voice] Hello, Joker here.
Akechi and I are interested in chatting to anyone kin from P5 who might remember some variety of role / arcana swap between the two of us. Or those who don't, and would just like to be friends. We aren't looking to reduce anyone to their kintypes.
Some vague key points we remember:
Goro and I were the primary roleswap, most of the Thieves at the very least were largely the same. We know there were some slight differences with others (may have been arcana swapped but not role?) but we're still trying to sort out our memories regarding that.
Goro's codename was Knight, though I would jokingly call him Crow at times in reference to his mask.
My own codename was Seraph, and rather than Black Mask, my true identity was known as Joker.
There was some variety of NG+ timeloop going on, largely without anyone having memory of the fact it was happening.
I tended to infiltrate the Thieves earlier, typically before or during Futaba's Palace.
Note that kin is spiritual to us; we view ours as past lives. We don't choose our memories or lives. If you do, you aren't a potential canonmate - but we still wouldn't mind chatting just to be pals.
Both of us are in our mid 20's. We don't mind talking to older teenagers, we're fond of kids. Just be mindful of your comfort levels and safety as with engaging with any adult. ♥️
#p5 kin#persona kin#persona 5 kin#canon call#canoncall#kin call#kincall#otherkin#spiritual kin#jokertalk
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Bye tsumihoroboshi
thats all for tsumihoroboshi chapter ZAMN. omfg i did cry i cant lie at that big battle on the rooftop i did i did i did.. It just hits a litte close to home friendship and all that... I love my friends so mach i get everything theyre feeling u know... AND the delusions of rena what a crazy writing style i dont think ill get over it like ever. urgh. Well the final tip almost wanted me to consider that "ooh maybe she was right!" but honestly my takeaways from it are juts 1. disaster happens regardless no matter how the events go otherwise 2. rika was murdered? Thats pretty weird 3. BUT theres hope liek she said BECAUSE: keiichi rememberd something from "another world" (i know a timeloop when i see one. its def a timeloop. Hells yeah) 4. the scrapbooks do hvae some evil spell or something takano i am onto you its weird anyway she shows up at such times and all.. Idk if shes the #MAIN VILLAIN DEMON OMG but shes Something.
Rena i love you thank you for solidifying your place as my favorite good time. argh every chapter so far is better than the one before it goes for this one too it does it does... Which is amazing implications for next ones... Lets hope they keep it up...
And keiichi i cant lie i do love you. I love you i love you i love you. Ughh. If i was still 16 hed have a big chance at going to that kinlist. But hes so gross so i wouldnt actually have added him then either!!! im unable to kin these days because EVERY GOOD CHARACTER EVER has Some Traits I Can Relate To Myself becuase i dont know something something human emotion something i am just like everyone else and everyone is just like me in the end and i love it. But yeah keiichi love the guy hes so #Power of Friendship #Protagonist. Im mentioning this cos i loved the girls from the start and still do but keiichi had to prove himself a little...
Yeah im curious about satoko now too i dont think i paid her enough mind i sort of ended up assuming shes #Normal but just super close to rika obviously but that one line about her being older. I couldnt tell yet if its Haha satokos body is older and rikas being funny! OR Omg satoko some immortal or something too woww! but yeah. I wouldnt think she is it doesnt seem that way at all BUT u never know w this fuckass series..ou ou ou ou ou
Mion i love you the girl that you are. Rena you are everything and more. Rika how have you managed to stay mysterious ive been here for like over 30 hours total for sure maybe even 40. But hmm
if its a timeloop i still cant tell what its about. id say rikas in charge (wants to keep giving this world a chance) n takano is with the antagonistic forces But how does it work exactly? If rikas the one "looping the time" directly it doesnt really compute unless she can do it from the afterlife. I dont konw.
And Omfg i hate this series because i STILL believe satoshi will show up one day. Even though it seems impossible now. But i liked him n shion so much dude i love shion so satoshi HAS TO come back for her. Urgh urgh urgh
But yeah i fr didnt think keiichi would be able to break renas delusion even for such a long moment But he pulled it off. Shes really cool i love her. I love her i love her i love her. UGHHH. Everything and more. and i said it alr but ill say it again the portrayal of her delusional state is SO personal to me i get her i get her i DO so good... Urghh. Ok. Thank u charhigurashi6 i have to check how many games the bundle i bought still has hmm
ok these 3 i own but havent installed lets see The first one here is um well i dont know that girl i havent seen her which is concerning! I feel like i mightve seen a sprite (in the og style that i read with) but thats kinda it. I recall seeing a name somewhere too shes a furude i think but not too sure Im always frustrated when i see a spoiler like that but then it never makes me any more knowledgeable about anything so so far its fine #LOL. proably has to do with the demon stuff tho...
takano in the middle one right takano you are so weird and offputting. Damn maybe she IS the big bad afterall
last one aww rika But yeah thats. I dont know its at least 5 hrs each but i think i spent like 10+ hrs on meakashi so it could possibly be up to like what. 15 even 20? per game. At least 15 hours left though.. Idt theres anything outside of the bundle after this its either higu anime time or umineko time ill see what kinda time i have then (i can probably watch the anime while multitasking i dont really care so much but umineko i want to be TUNED. IN.)
yay exciting ok thank u charhigurashi6 best chapter so far loved it love u rena love u everyone ok gn
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Me 🤝jim kirk: loving bones
#also if theres any weird grammar here no there isnt<3 also help. i love him so much thats so kirk kin of me#timeloop fic
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Adore looking at some fucked up fictional character & going “literally nobody understands u like I do. For realsies.”
#this of course goes for Aru but that’s a given being that they’d kin ME. but also Kaworu like hellooooo nobody talks about how they were#raised by a government agency with the sole purpose to end the world like you don’t think that’s going to fuck with a kids self worth and#perception of the world???? hmmmmm????? have u considered the reason they regard humans as separate entities isn’t bc they have adams soul#but instead is thanks to being regarded as inhuman the entirety of their life????? anyway. I’m normal.#just I get their whole thing revolves around loving Shinji but christ the implications of their childhood & all those timeloops.#cath.txt
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very random but is it possible to have like.. more than one set of mems for one character. Like two different timelines or smth idk
#ive been thinking#i mean i know this technically counts with wh kins bc the whole thing is a VERY LONG GOING timeloop but like. you know what i mean#like maybe you have canon-complacent and also au mems#is that. a thing
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im rotting up everything inside of me and outside of me :(
#angelkin#demonkin#divinekid#godkin#fallenangelkin#is it normal to kin urself as a version of lucifer themself?#angelcore#vent#mine#<3#endless timeloop#dedicated to me
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20 w gordon for the kin meme?
20. Favourite moment in source material?
OH this is a hard one... it’s a tie between the modern major general moment and “SUCKERRRRRR!!!”
#i kin freem*n’s mind gordon. unfortunately.#my kinmems with him r very weird because i remember being like#basically a mix between canon gordon and fm gordon#but was also sort of a villain + was stuck in a timeloop during the events of hl1
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The meaning of 42 is....nothing.
It has no meaning. It never has, and it never will. Unless you make one. So Alice...
Care to try again?
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IM RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT. HOMURA WOULD KIN HOLLYLEAF THIS IS FACT
SHE WOULD IF NOT FOR THE FACT THE TIMELOOPS TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE FIRST PO3 BOOK CAME OUT IN JAPAN
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i don't kin homura akemi or rebuilds!kawworu per se . howwevver let it be knowwn that i wwholly condone & indeed strongly support an relate to their pro-timeloop stance. they wwere both right to do that an it wwould sadden me deeply if they wwere evver to stop.
#a8out me#broke: kawworu makin peace wwith shinji's 'growwth' and decision to 'movve on'#wwoke: homura becomin the devvil to stay connected to her Belovved forevver
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