I was the sadistic po3 ask and you are so right. I honestly hadn't thought about it for very long its the vibe he gives off initially but the more I think on it the more I realize hes the type to fall little by little and then all at once. The type to call you an idiot and give you advice in the same statement, to notice immediately when you change your hair style or a new shirt. The moment he realizes hes the type to do the oh. oh. oh no. Like thats his vibe. hes a dick but a loving one.
Okay FIRST OF ALL anon that post is almost two years old at this point so. Welcome back. I'm sorry I was so harsh to your Sadistic Yandere P03 concept.
SECOND P03 acts of service Tsundere type is so funny I love that for him. He will deny he did that for you, or if he accepts it he expects gratitude of the highest caliber.
This doesn't feel very Yandere to me though this is very base P03 affection to me. But that's because to me P03 is the least Yandere out of the Scrybes.. and I think that's why the polycule broke up before you arrived??
He was the object of their obsessions, and it was smothering and toxic and terrifying. He hated it, he was scared, he was cadged, he could never do anything on his own or go anywhere without checking in on someone. He never had his own space, never had control...
Yandere P03 would then push that cycle of abuse onto you, take control from you, not forcefully, but just a little bit at a time. Manipulate your space slowly so you have fewer and fewer options on where to go, like shortening a leash on a dog. It takes time. It takes routine.
This though, the acts of service and catering to your comfort, is Post Recovery P03. A P03 who's had time, a LOT of time, to himself, to his space, and found loneliness. He wants you to want to come back, because deep down he needs you, but doesn't want to admit that, because to him it's wrong to need someone. It hits too close to home, make him feel too much like the other scrybes.
He'll give you reasons to want to come back, and it'll remind him of how Grimora would always lend him things so he'd have reason to return. How she'd gift him everything he'd wanted so he'd come back, how she'd loose several matches in a row, and only win the one he'd said was his last game, so he'd stay and challenge her to a rematch
He'll follow on your heel as you wander around his factory because it's dangerous and maze like, and it'll remind him of the feeling of being followed, of being watched, by Magnificus everywhere he went. The suffocating feeling of never being anywhere alone, of eyes that saw his every possible future always on him. He'll deny his affections to you and remind himself of Magnificus doing the same when he'd stumbled into a room covered wall to wall in paintings of himself, in situations he knew Magnificus was not with him
He'll spend time tailoring his game to your play style, making sure cards you like are more plentiful, making sure the puzzles are engaging and challenging, and he'll remind himself of Leshy, the worst of them all, and that cabin full of intrigue. Of story and hard fights and difficult puzzles and nights of "Just one more round" turned three and four. When he floats just above you to feel superior he'll be reminded of the wall that use to be a door that he'd pressed himself against Leshy towered above him, a man who'd say one thing and feel another, who'd played the hero over and over in their games, and revealed himself the villain when P03 attempted to leave
He doesn't want to need you in the same way the other Scrybes had needed him
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Squealing and kicking my legs reading your post about the prev gg fic... i bet it'll be great...
teeheehee. the thing about me is i spent seven straight years writing and reading fanfiction about the signless from homestuck, who's a doomed rebel whose family has some of the worst storylines possible.
so when canon owl house is like "this guy was murdered by a terrible emperor," i'm like. interesting! i think that guy had a rebel family made up largely of older witches who remembered pre-empire days and the same-aged rebellious 20-year-olds who supported them and worked on secret anarchy. and i think all of those people loved him like a son or a brother or a lover (non-traditional-relationship found family polycule RIGHTS) and that he would have done anything for them and that he was putting himself in constant danger doing anti-empire things right under the emperor's nose. and then i think that the emperor killed him but what matters MORE is that the emperor killed his entire family too out of rage and used the deaths to kickstart a wave of political fascism DIRECTLY contradicting gg's values. and i think that in the end the world was a thousand times worse than it was when the wild witches started the work because sometimes that's how things go. sometimes you don't win and sometimes every horrible thing Does happen.
and i think the love mattered still. i think darius is the only one left who still remembers all of this and that he and eber are the only ones left to carry on what his mentor was doing, in terms of protecting people from the inside.
darius in wwaitsoal has said a lot of things about how his coven has the most opportunities because he leads it in a really hands-off way because he's lazy. which in some ways has been a bad thing (capitalism is hell. darius regulate your shit) but in other ways... well. if there happen to be wild witches with fake coven sigils in darius's or eberwolf's covens, they surely don't know anything about THAT, right?
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OMG amazing day. Beauceron I was showing went Reserve Winner's Bitch, and the judge was very kind and gave me tips on what I needed to improve on, and when I went back in the ring, he gave me the opportunity to try again (still struggling with the bite and holding the head up right!). Found out the lady with the English Toy Spaniels is interested in letting me show some, and another lady with Iggies asked me to show some of her dogs. Both recognised me, which is very funny and flattering. The breeder I help (I am resident bottle bitch, he does not have a bucket) wound up doing pretty good today so I wound up staying until the end of the day. Friends won group, other friends placed, and we're all looking forward to reuniting next month at the next AKC show. Woo!
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It Is Time; the Phoenix Wright Rambling Begins
Bear with me on this one, this may take a while. ^ -^)'
So let's be fair about this; compared to other characters, Nick is a pretty simple character. Trials & Tribulations and Apollo Justice flesh him out a fair bit (both through betrayal and poisoning, oddly), but for the most part it's the characters around him that get the lions share of development.
Ace Attorney? It's about Edgeworth escaping his mentors shadow and the trauma of the DL-6 Incident. Both assistants, Maya and Ema, have more character spotlight than our resident himbo.
Justice for All? Similar deal with Franziska, minus DL-6.
T&T? He and Godot share a fair bit of spotlight, with both of them coping with Mia's death and Deliahs butt-holery, so that's fair.
Apollo Justice? He gets a lot to work with, including a daughter and homeless arc, albiet at the expense of Apollo to some degree.
Dual Destinies? It's mostly Athena and Simon remixing AA (and T&T to an extent) with some Apollo flair.
Spirit of Justice? All about Apollo receiving the torch from his mentor and using it to burn the monarchy, baby. Athena? Who that?
All the above characters tend to get more to do character-wise than Phoenix. By comparison he's a pretty standard bloke, especially in his own trilogy (and returns to a similar phase in the 3D games, for some reason). I already shared another post from @i-llbedammned who details why that could be appealing, but I had foreshadowed there that I had more feelings about this foolishly foolish fool made to fool me. That in mind, I propose to you this idea; Phoenix - as bland as he can be - is the heart and soul of the series and the exemplar of its core thesis. A sentiment that I personally gell with a fair bit. Allow me to exposit.
Riddle me this: Why is Phoenix Wright a defense attorney to begin with?
Think back to Case 1-4. Specifically the moment he explains as such to Maya. There, he recalls a moment in his childhood where he was accused of stealing money without any evidence against him. No one was on his side. Everyone demanded he pays for this crime. Even the teacher didn't believe he was innocent. It's a small thing, sure, but the isolation and inability to fight back against all the lies got to poor Phoenix. He was in tears over the whole thing until Edgeworth stod up for him, criticising everyone there for accusing an innocent party with no evidence (in the most Edgeworth way possible of course, bless that mess).
I know people cling to Edgeworth as being the reason he's an attorney - I get and enjoy that idea well enough - but I would like to propose that the isolation and weakness he felt in that moment was also a large factor in why he defends people for a living.
Because he's been there before.
He knows damn well what it's like to have no one behind your back. He knows, through defending Edgeworth, what it looks like to not even believe yourself to be innocent. He knows when no one has faith in your innocence, you may as well be guilty anyways (and I'm damn sure this made his 7 year slump in AJ all the more painful).
Perhaps that's why Mia's advice stuck with him for so long; to have faith in your clients no matter what. He holds to that tenet to this very day, even after a few clients proved themselves less than innocent in the process. He has to - who else would have faith in his clients otherwise, when it feels like the entire world is against them?
I think about Dual Destinies a lot. For the obvious reasons of course, but also for how I feel it ties back into the first game and this core message. Athena knows Simon isn't guilty, no one believes or even knows it but them and their colleagues. The world has decided that this innocent man ought to be put to death for a crime he didn't commit (which he only rolled along with to protect Athena, though not sure if he thought she was innocent at the time), yet Athena decides to stick to her guns and tries to pull him out of this mess (on top of dealing with her own issues and boy are there a lot of them). There's more to that plot and the themes of that game than just "AA 1 & 3 except BIGGERER" but this is hardly the time to double-down on my special interests.
In short, the main reason I enjoy Phoenix so much as a character (and the games as a whole) is that he embodies what an unfortunate number of people seem to be missing, both ingame and out; faith. It's rare to find someone with enough of the stuff who would defend you against the world till the bitter end. Someone who believes you are more than what you give yourself credit for and will fight tooth-and-nail to make sure you know you are too.
None of these characters would even be alive if not for this man, up to and including his childhood friends and at least one of his protégés. I myself owe a lot to those who believed I was better than I claim to be and were willing to help me deal with tough times (albiet not because I was accused of murder but that might be for the best, hahaha!). Unjust persecution - external or internal, legal or social - is a terrible thing to go through. Phoenix knows this better than most from his childhood and later his unjust disbarment and so works to ensure none of his clients have to face any of it alone, as he would have had to himself in the past if not for the help he had in those trying times (read; Edgeworth and Trucy).
I love this god damn idiot so, so much.
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I haven’t posted much as I’ve been playing a lot, and I’m going to be traveling all of next week, but I’ll leave this here as a blanket PSA: If you have lore questions about Rasputin, or secondarily about Ana, Clovis, the Seraphs, the other Warminds, the Golden Age/Collapse, or all the other related topics that are going to come up this season, ask me whatever and I’ll do my best to answer, translate, and perhaps even predict. Rasputin is an old character with a lot of sometimes-conflicting, often-obscure lore, and I like nothing better than explaining it.
ONE IMPORTANT CAVEAT: I DO NOT DO DATAMINED SPOILERS. Don’t send them to me or ask me to comment on them; I’m avoiding any spoilers as scrupulously as possible, and my answers will reflect not knowing them.
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