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Silver Cats & Black Roses
Chapter 16 – Lady Orchidea and the Nobles
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A/N Little warning, we learn more about the past of Charlottes mother, lady Roselei... and it is not a happy one 💙 Also, a bit of Vanessa and Finesse friendship 💜
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Grenadine always had the habit to wake up early. Back in the inn where her mother worked and lived, it didn’t changed when she became a Magic Knight.
A new habit actually was to get a copious breakfast. Back at the village in the Forsaken Realm, she only got a glass of milk in the morning and when her mother or the inn keeper were in a good mood, a slice or two of buttered bread.
But here at the Silver Eagles, she had been amazed by the good food and Grenadine couldn’t help but fill her breakfast tray always with most food she could find, especially that roasted bread nobles called toast and all those different kinds of jam. Sometimes it filled her stomach for the whole day. And when it was early morning, she had the most choice of food.
Grenadine didn’t eat breakfast back in the squads refectory, though. It was such a big room and it intimated her when it was as good as empty. Which was always the case early in the morning. So, she just took a tray, filled it with her breakfast, would talk a bit with the chefs and then go back to her room.
But because the night wing of the Silver Eagles was almost on the opposite site of the refectory, it always took a while to go back to her room. The only direct disadvantage she considered in the Silver Eagle’s base. Otherwise, Grenadine was always excited to have her own room.
She sighed. That hadn’t been the case back in the inn, where she shared a tiny room with her mother. Even more so, Grenadine was the one who slept on the floor on a too soft mattress while her mother had the wobbly bed. Well, Grenadine admitted that her life became better and not only in terms of food and living place.
Her mother was always bitter, but that Grenadine could understand. She wanted a better, easier life and maybe she had thought being the mistress of a noble would be the best way. But the noble she choose, Cygnus Évantail, just had her fun with her for a while before he left her pregnant and alone. Yeah, no wonder she became bitter. But what was less understandable was how her mother considered her own daughter guilty for her condition, while the only thing Grenadine did was being born a bastard.
Another problem was that the village they lived in was a conservative one. Bastards weren’t loved, considered less and Grenadine had those looks on her every day she lived there. The inn keeper who engaged her mother out of “charity”, even had to point out her condition. The only person who loved Grenadine and who took care of her was the inn keepers wife. She was the one to believe her, to never mock her for her wish to become a Magic Knight and who encouraged her to train her fan magic.
That woman sadly died not long after Grenadine got her grimoire. So, nothing else held her back in that village. Grenadine tried to talk things out with her mother, but she wouldn’t hear anything. So, Grenadine left the village for the royal capital, determined to join a Magic Knight squad.
She was lucky, then she got there just in time for a special entrance exam. This year, there would be two, because of the whole raid in the Spade kingdom, so Grenadine didn’t need to wait for months for the next one. She seemed to have done well , because she managed to impress six captains out of nine.
Six captains wanted to give her a chance and let her join their squads. The villagers were certain that none would take her, and yet…
One of those captains was Nozel Silva, a royal and the captain of the Silver Eagles.
This had taken Grenadine aback. Everyone told her that the Silver Eagles only accepted nobles and royals in their ranks, no one less. And yet, the captain of this squad raised his hand, offering her a place as a Silver Eagle.
Honestly, it was too good to be true, so she accepted. Actually, Grenadine had been surprised, because most of the knights she met were welcoming of the bastard she was. Sometimes, she wondered if it has always been like this behind the appearances or if the Silver Eagles just started to be more open minded recently.
Of course, she met a bunch of arrogant nobles within the Silver Eagles, like her half-brother Samuel. Grenadine first had naively hoped that some of her father’s family would accept her, but interacting with her half-brother made her unwilling to try to reach out. She learned that the Évantails were mostly arrogant jerks and the family tree was incredibly messy. If all members of this noble house were like that, then Grenadine didn’t want to interact with them at all.
The Silver Eagles were her home, almost becoming like family to her, as strange as it might sound. The older knights were like mentors, the younger ones became somehow siblings, vice-captain Agatha was always nice and supportive. And captain Nozel, despite being busy, always tried to find some time to supervise her training and even helping her, in his own ways. He was a good captain and today, Grenadine was deeply grateful that he gave her chance, even though she was a bastard daughter.
If only she could give him back some of his kindness somehow.
While she was thinking and remembering, Grenadine reached the night quarters. Although, not exactly. She reached the hall were captain Nozel has his chamber. He didn’t often slept at the base, but when he did, it was always in this particular chamber that was pretty much apart from the rest.
Grenadine thought that he must have his reasons why his bedroom was not along the others. Honestly, captain Nozel was always very secretive with his private life, if he had any, and was still a mystery to her today. She was curious, but also knew better than to push or digging. The few things she gathered from the history of house Silva, especially concerning the late lady Acier, sounded tragic and she wouldn’t be surprised if captain Nozel suffered terribly back then.
The door to his chamber was slightly open. Did he slept at the base last night? No, if he did, the captain would have closed and locked his door. That was always a habit of his, he always locked his office three times when he left and when he was in there, no one could just waltz in, everyone had to knock and wait for his answer before entering, even vice-captain Agatha.
But his room at the base was also always locked, even when he wasn’t sleeping there. Maybe he forgot? But it was so unlike captain Nozel to forget anything. He had such a good memory, he even always remembered a small detail a knight said like a year ago.
Suddenly, Grenadine grinned, putting her tray on the floor against the wall. It was actually a unique occasion to see what his room was like. Many Silver Eagles always speculated what kind of style he had. Well, she was about to find out.
Just a peek, though. That would be enough, entering his bedroom would be highly disrespecting.
But when she took a glance to the gap of the door, the first thing Grenadine saw was the bed. Not empty. To her surprise, captain Nozel actually was here.
And he wasn’t alone in his bed…
The wheels in her brain were only working slowly as Grenadine tried to understand what this could mean and to recognize the woman who was in her captains arms.
Rosewood hair, a really beautiful face who seemed very familiar. Grenadine frowned. She had seen that woman before, sometimes. Always when there was a report coming from another squad, the Black Bulls actually. So, wasn’t that Vanessa Enoteca, the witch who was also a Magic Knight, member of the Black Bulls.
The Black Bull witch was here, in captain Nozel’s chamber, in his bed.
Actually, they were in each other’s arms, bodies intertwined, silver and pink hair mixed, a blanket covering them from the waist.
Wait a minute!
Grenadine jumped away from the door and leaned against the opposite wall, trying to breathe normally.
The captain of the Silver Eagles was in the arms of the Black Bull witch.
Nozel Silva and Vanessa Enoteca were lovers.
One of the most eligible royal bachelors of the kingdom had a witch, someone way far away from his own circles, as his lover.
A royal and a witch were lovers!
Holy Grimoire!
Grenadine stood frozen against the wall as she slowly realized was this would imply for nobility, for royalty and more importantly… for those two lovers especially.
She did hear some rumours within her squadmates about the dreamy state captain Nozel had lightly. But even though she wondered about it as well, Grenadine would have never imagined that he could be in love.
At least, not with someone out of his circles. But should this really be surprising? Was she more shocked that it was a witch or about the reaction corrupt nobles would have?
Grenadine wasn’t blind, she did saw how some nobles, even some Silver Eagles, were treating captain Nozel, subtle for sure, but still disrespectful. She didn’t know why and since when, but she also knew that he didn’t deserve to get some little respect. Especially since he always put others before himself. He deserved some kind of happiness and right there, with Vanessa Enoteca in his arms, captain Nozel actually looked happy while he slept.
But nobles would never accept that, right?
“Oh, little newbie hatchling, what did shocked you that much to glue you against the wall?”
Grenadine jumped as she heard the voice. Thankfully, it was only granny Julia coming from the refectory as well, with a tray of breakfast.
“Goodness, are we attacked again by devils that you react like that?”
“No, it’s just… captain Nozel…”
Julia’s smile faded away, while concern appeared in her golden eyes. “Did something happened to him?”
Granny Julia didn’t even waited for an answer, as she rushed to the still slight open door, taking a glance into the room.
“Oh. Oh my. Oh by my old bones.”
Julia immediately took a step away, closing the door silently. Grenadine bit her lip. Actually, she should have done that from the start instead of looking and getting shocked. Damn curiosity.
The golden eyes of the oldest Silver Eagle were now filled with relief, although the concern didn’t disappeared.
“Well, I was certain that young Nozel was in love, but I haven’t expected that his lady love would be the Black Bull witch. Although, it explains why… Never mind. Captain Nozel and his witch lover will need a lot of support. His jerk of a father will give him hell if he ever finds out.”
“Father?” Grenadine asked. Lady Acier, the mother of the four Silva siblings, was always a subject, but she never heard about the father.
“Yes, young Aciers husband. Lac Silva, anciently from that good for nothing house Wavecliff. A true jerk, trust me. He was always thinking about himself. Besides, he has no inch of love for his children, especially Nozel. Don’t ask me why, though. Fact is, if he learns that his son is in love with a witch, he would give them hell.”
“That sounds awful…”
“Exactly, little hatchling. Captain Nozel deserves to finally have something good happening to him personally and while I don’t know Vanessa well, she seems like a very kind hearted person. She doesn’t deserve hell either.”
“But… what can we do?”
“You and I will have a discussion over breakfast about that. I don’t know everything about that family’s history, but I know quite a lot, I was knight already under Roland Silva, young Nozel’s great-uncle. And if you want to help, you need to understand a bit more. Now, take your tray, we’ll eat and talk in my room.”
When Julia Ambrosia decided something, there was no chance to argue. So, Grenadine took her tray and followed the old knight.
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Charlotte was just looking at her mother.
And her mother looked back.
Alright, this silence was starting to get on her nerves. As if she wasn’t fed up since she came here. Charlotte got an invitation for tea for her mother, just the two of them. It was the first time her mother reached out to her since that soirée from two months ago, when Charlotte stood up to Orchidea.
Charlotte had no idea how to feel about this. Her bond with her mother was strained since that evening and given all the arranged marriage discussions lately, she hadn’t been too eager to rekindle that bond, sadly.
Although she never would have thought that her mother would reach out first. But she was still met with silence since she entered lady Orchideas boudoir. By her honour as a Magic Knight, Charlotte didn’t came here to just get silence in return! She preferred to return to her squad.
Or to see Yami. She once thought that the moment they got together, the longing for him would calm down. But it just got stronger. Was it because they came from different circles, had right now a secret relationship which was still very young and were both very aware of their situation?
It wasn’t too long ago, but the more she thought about it felt to be in his arms and making love, the more she longed to be back in his arms. Not only to sleep with him, but also to just talk, to tease each other, to cuddle, to spend time together…
To do any of those things a couple would do. The possibilities were actually endless.
She really had enough of this silence.
“Mother, if you don’t-“
“I’m sorry that I reached out to you only now,” lady Orchidea immediately said and from the tone of her voice, she was really sorry. “It’s just… what you told me two months ago, it reminded me of memories I tried to forget for years now. But those are also things I shouldn’t have put under the rug. It’s just… I was a coward, many times in my life. And to be fair, you… you were right to stand up to me.”
Alright, Charlotte didn’t expected that. She didn’t have any idea what to answer.
Looking over at her mother, who always looked younger than her age, she realized for the first time that lady Orchidea had wrinkles around her bright green eyes and there was already strands of grey in her black hair. And she looked so tired.
A mask was fallen. Her mother had decided to show her a very vulnerable side of herself, something most nobles would never dare to do. Charlotte started to feel bad for her mother.
“I warn you, it’s a bit a long story. And won’t tell you that to excuse my actions or to give good reasons to marry you of. I… don’t even beg you to understand me. But you deserve to know. All I ask of you is to listen to me.”
“I promise, mother.”
Orchidea took a deep breath. “I was sixteen when I was married of to your father. No surprise here, it’s still very normal for nobility. But what isn’t normal and what no one knew until now… I wasn’t a virgin anymore when I got married.”
Charlotte was very grateful that she didn’t have a cup of tea in her hands right now, because it would have fallen from her hands and break into thousand pieces.
“I understand your shock. And you can call out on my hypocrisy, as I always taught you noble ladies should stay virgins until their wedding day. It doesn’t matter that most nobles think that, I followed the rule. This was my mistake, one of many.”
“With… whom…”
“A peasant, Pierrot. Yes, I lost my virginity to someone way outside of my circle. But Pierrot and I… we were hopelessly in love, passionately and innocently at the same time. First love for the both of us. We always met in secret. We actually even planned to run away together, in another kingdom, even another continent. It was never a real plan, more the fantasies of two teenagers hopelessly in love. No one ever knew about us. Except his mother, she find out. You can imagine her panic. Her son, a peasant in love with a noble lady. It was dangerous, the consequences would have been terrible if someone with ill intentions would have found out. She reasoned with us and since I was about to get married, Pierrot and I listened to her. His mother was kind enough to give us one last night together. And that’s how I lost my virginity. At least, it was to someone I loved.”
“That man, Pierrot… Is he-“
“No, he’s not your real father. Although I would have preferred, Pierrot is so much kinder than Fidel. But it just wasn’t possible. You never knew, no one ever knew except my mother and an aunt, but… it is almost impossible for me to have children. It’s not quite an illness and not complete sterility, but still a difficult condition. I hated it, especially since I never could have gotten a child from Pierrot. I actually even believed I would never have some… Until I got you when I was eighteen. My little miracle. But I feared that you would inherit the same condition as me. Thankfully, the healer I brought you to gave me the relieving news that you didn’t got that condition. You would not have difficulties to have children. That was my relief. I just regretted that I was never able to give you any siblings.”
Charlotte looked away. Well, she actually got a sibling, but not from her mother.
“I tried to accept my life, to make the best out of it. I don’t love my husband and never got more children after you. But I had you and my position was secure, I wasn’t an outcast in the family. It should have been enough. I just couldn’t forget my love for Pierrot and I tried to fall in love with Fidel, so that I would have something similar again. It never worked, but during the first years of marriage, I kinda forced myself to live in an illusion that it worked. But then, your father… he cheated on me and-“
“I know that already. He had an affair with a poor innocent girl from the Common Realm and conceived a bastard.”
“You know already?”
“I was there, mother. Remember that I was supposed to come with you and other family members on a shopping trip? But I wasn’t feeling well, so I stood behind. I witnessed how father treated that poor girl, I saw how he chased her away with his own child. Why do you think I never gave father presents since I was ten years old?”
“Oh, my poor Charlotte…”
“How did you find out?”
“I forgot something, so I went back home to get it. That’s how I found out, about your fathers affair and the fact he got a bastard son. And of course he chased her and his own child away, he is a typical noble on that matter.”
Charlotte never saw her mother this upset before. It was an uncommon sight, especially because Orchidea still looked so upset about it. Her mother sighed deeply before continuing, “That whole affair hurt me, more than it should have. But I found it so unfair. I was never able to get more children and your father just throw his second child away, because it was a bastard, humiliating that poor girl by doing so. I tried so much to love him and wanted to believe it was true, but he cheated on me like it was no big deal. From that day on, I stopped trying to love Fidel.”
“Mother…”
“It was a dark time for me. You might remember that I was kinda absent back then. I’m so sorry for that, my sweet girl. I just… your father’s adultery hurt me more than it should have. Since I had to know better… Pierrot’s memory became so strong, I longed for the feeling he gave me. I haven’t thought about anything, I went back to the Forsaken Realm to see him.”
“Did you… became lovers again?”
“No. Actually, Pierrot never saw me, but I saw him from afar. With his family.”
“Oh…”
“Pierrot did something I wasn’t able to do. He moved on. He find himself a kind wife to cherish for the rest of his life and who loved him back. They got eight children together. I saw them play on the grass in front of their cabin. Three boys and five girls. I heard the name of one of his daughters. Orchidea. He named her after me. Pierrot never forgot me, but he still had the strength to move on. All of them seemed so happy. Who was I to destroy their idyl, just because I was unhappy in my own life? So I left, Pierrot never knew I came back.”
Tears filled her mothers eyes. Still grieving her lost love. Charlotte felt so bad for her. She never knew what her mother had to go through. It maybe wasn’t a curse, not a loss because of devils, nothing like that. Just emotions. But those could also hurt as much as a curses or devils.
While handing her mother a handkerchief, Charlotte asked softly, “Where you able to move on after that?”
“From Pierrot, yes. But not from my longing for affection and love. It was terrible. And… it was around back then when I commit one of the biggest mistake of my life. Shortly after I came back from the Forsaken Realm, there was a royal ball at the Vermillions. The Roseleis were invited too, of course. I didn’t had any fun, I was still moping, even though I forced myself to never show anything. I drank a lot during that ball, trying to cope. My mind wasn’t clear anymore. And then… Oh, Charlotte, I’m so ashamed of what I’ve done. A man came to me… I don’t if we talked first or if I just followed him. I was drunk and starving for at least a bit of affection. We went to an empty bedroom, somewhere in the Vermillion palace. And I… I slept with that man!”
Orchidea started sobbing and all Charlotte could do was to stand up, walk over to her and hugged her mother as much as she could.
“Mother, please. It’s not your fault.”
“It is! I was mad at your father for his adultery and then, I did the same. I’m a hypocrite.”
“Father had no regrets and was totally concious of his actions, he had no excuses. But you have. You were in a dark phase of your life and you were drunk. If anything, that man practically took advantage of you.”
This made Charlotte furious. She was always hated when something like that happened to any woman. But here, it happened to her own mother!
“Who is this man? Don’t tell me he left you in a drunk sleep after you… slept together.”
“No, he waited until I was awake the next morning. But… given the circumstances, I would have preferred that he left. The fact that he staid was worse. Because he used our night together somehow as a leverage.”
“How dare he! He was more at fault as you!”
“You heard of Lac Silva’s reputation, right?”
This made Charlotte froze. Lac Silva. Nozels father. One noble really well loved, so popular even that king Augustus and Achilles Vermillion spoke so highly of him, even though lord Lac only married into royalty, so wasn’t a full royal and actually came originally from low nobility. And still, he became so influential within nobles, mostly those who weren’t knights.
She never that man personally, she just mostly knew of his reputation within nobility. She also knew that Nozel didn’t seem to love his father at all and his siblings also never talked about in particular. Charlotte was even certain that Lac Silva wasn’t a kind man, just a very intelligent noble who knew what to do to gain his goal.
And this man was the man her mother had a one-night-stand with?
“What… what did he said to you?”
“First off, he laughed at my shock. Then he told me casually that thanks to my condition, he actually didn’t need to use protection this time.”
“The audacity! And what did he meant with this time?”
“It probably wasn’t the first time he had an one-night-stand with someone. Poor lady Acier… I remember how she always seems so deeply in love with lord Lac. Back then, she was still recovering from her last pregnancy. Solid Silvas birth had been quite a difficult one and there was rumours that the healers and midwives told her she better had to wait for at least five years if she wanted another child. But as you know, she got pregnant again before that with Noelle Silva. It wasn’t an easy time for the Silvas. I think lady Acier somehow found out about her husband’s adultery and wanted to win him back with a child. I don’t know. But I felt so guilty. I took her husband away from her, even if it was just for one night.”
“No, the only culprit is Lac Silva. You were a victim just as much as lady Acier. Oh mother… If I had known, I wouldn’t have been so harsh on you!”
“No, you were right to stand up. You had the courage I never had, Charlotte. I wish I was as brave as you.”
“It took already a lot of inner strength to go through that and still walk with your head high. And it was brave of you to tell me all of this. Trust me, mother. I know from experience how difficult it is to talk about heavy secrets.”
Both mother and daughter hold each other for a while in silent, enjoying a closeness they never knew before.
But after a while, Charlotte couldn’t help but ask with a quiet voice, “What… what did Lac Silva told you after that?”
“He gave up on casual talk immediately. Actually, he told me about you… Or rather, your future marriage.”
Charlotte tensed.
“You have to know that lord Lac is an important authority on the marital market. Just like lady Bianca, the head of house Évantail. Or lady Athénaïs Vitrail, even though she isn’t twenty-six yet. Six or seven other people as well, maybe more. It’s not an official business, it’s not even considered as it. Officially it doesn’t exist, but it has power. Those people don’t make the final decisions, but they are very popular within nobility and their influence is strong. To a point that in some cases, their suggestion for arranged marriages can be definite.”
“And… Lac Silva?”
“He definitely is one with the strongest influence and reputation. And he wasn’t very subtle when he talked to me about you. Lord Lac directly said that he didn’t trust me to find you a potential match and that our house would probably more listening to me if I don’t get better on this topic. I protested, but he pointed out that since I drank last night and slept with him, it doesn’t speak highly for me. Then he left, leaving me alone. Our house members think so highly of him and I practically gave him a reason that I shouldn’t be trusted. But… I just couldn’t let him decide over your future. I couldn’t!”
“Is that… is that why you try to marry into royalty?”
“Oh, Charlotte, my baby girl! I feel so bad for this! But I stopped believing in love since that fateful night and all I wanted was to find a good man for you, so that my history wouldn’t repeat itself. And marrying you into royalty seemed like a good idea to get you out of his clutches. The Silvas probably don’t held their father in high regards and people like lord Fuegoleon or lady Océane have a good authority in house Vermillion and aren’t hypnotized by lord Lac. I have considered lord Damnatio as well, as he’s not someone lord Lac could manipulate. But I don’t think he would make you happy, unlike lord Nozel or lord Fuegoleon. That’s why I…”
Orchidea stopped, sobbing again. But Charlotte understood what she wanted to say.
“So that’s why you tried to pair me up with two of my captain colleagues.”
“I was wrong, I realized that now. The day you stand up to me and claiming you wanted to marry out of love, I realized that I was wrong. It wasn’t my intention, but now I know that I was hurting you with those potential candidates.”
“At least, you wanted me to be happy, to be safe. You never wanted to use me for some goal like aunt Rosamund or father. It wasn’t the best idea and it did hurt me. But you were hurt too, mother, and at least, you still put my happiness before anything else. I can’t deny you that and I don’t want either. Speaking of aunt Rosamund, is her suggestion to marry me to lord Reginald Évantail in fact Lac Silva’s idea.”
“No, I can guarantee you that. She has lord Lac in high esteem, that’s true. But you know Rosamund, she’s too stubborn to let anyone suggest her anything.”
“That’s true… Mother, there’s something I need to tell you. About me marrying out of love. Well, do you remember my curse?”
“How could I forget?”
“Well, I don’t think you know, but… the catch to break the curse was for me to lose my heart to a man. And… this is exactly what happened to me. I fell in love with the man who saved me from the thorns running wild. I loved him for ten years. I still love him today. I don’t think I can ever stop loving him.”
It was true. Charlotte was certain that she won’t be able to ever stop loving Yami. Especially now, after they finally started their relationship.
How much she wanted to be back in his arms right now. Especially after she learned all those things from her mother. But at the same time, she couldn’t leave Orchidea alone.
For the first time since Charlotte came, a small smile was on her mother’s lips. “Whoever this man is, I have to thank him for saving you. But don’t tell me who he is. At least not yet. I’m not trusting myself to be really someone to trust with this kind of things.”
“I think you are trustworthy, mother. But I respect your position. Let me tell you this still. He’s not a noble or a royal.”
“I expected that. I promise you to support you from now on as much as I can, even if it’s against the status quo.”
“Thank you, mother.”
A comfortable silence settled between mother and daughter. Charlotte sighed deeply. All those arranged marriage problems weren’t over, but it still felt like a burden fell from her shoulders. She knew now why her mother truly wanted to marry her off and now she had her support with Yami. That was more than she could ask from Orchidea.
Feeling herself in a sharing mood, Charlotte said after a while, “You know, I actually met my half-sibling recently. My little brother…”
“Really? Can you please tell me about him?”
“His name is Luck and…”
Charlotte spend the rest of her visit to tell her mother everything about Luck. To a point that at the end, lady Orchidea Roselei looked like she wanted to adopt him.
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“What a nice place to be,” Finesse smiled, taking a sip from the blue juice Charmy gave her and enjoying the afternoon sun.
“Indeed, it’s one of the calmest place at the hideout. Granted, we don’t have a lot of calm spots, we’re the Black Bulls after all. But this one is the best,” Vanessa replied in a giggle, searching for a light blue thread within her sewing box.
Both women were currently sitting on the bench next to Charmys vegetable garden. Indeed one of the calmer place at the Black Bulls hideout and the best spot if someone wanted to be alone for a moment or just hang out in peace with someone.
And honestly, given Finesse’s health and even though the Black Bulls learned to pull themselves together around her, it was the best place for her to rest properly from Bull’s behaviour.
Finesse came again for a visit and while waiting for Finral until he finishes his shift, she asked Vanessa to keep her some company. Which Vanessa accepted. She liked Finesse a lot, not only because she made Finral happy, but also because she was just such a kind lady.
So, Vanessa brought Finesse to the Vegetable Bench, as the Black Bulls called this spot, and took her sewing box with her, for a nice girly chat.
“Does Luck cope well, by being the little brother of captain Charlotte Roselei?”
“Of course Finral told you. In fact, Luck is overjoyed. He’s really bragging about having such a strong big sister. It’s getting on Magna’s nerves especially, but I think it’s cute.”
“I’m glad he and Charlotte have such a strong bond already. It is pretty rare in those bastard situations, sadly. I hope it will become better one day. Maybe Luck and lady Charlotte can start to make a difference.”
“You’re really kind-hearted, Fin. But that won’t be for now. Both still want to keep it for themselves for now, before the storms, as captain Charlotte put it.”
“It’s very understandable. Nobles can be so quick to jump to conclusions most of the time. I guess that I’m the only one outside of the Black Bulls and the Blue Roses to know about those new found siblings.”
Vanessa giggled, but didn’t answered. After all, she was the only one who knew that Finesse wasn’t the only one outside of both squads to know about Charlotte and Luck. Nozel knew it too, after all.
But both Finesse and Nozel were perfectly able to keep the secret until it was time to make it official to the world.
Vanessa smiled, probably dreamy. It had been a perfect morning when she woke up in Nozels arms and even more so when she kissed him awake. They just started their relationship a few days ago and it already felt like they were together for longer than that.
It was still a secret, yes, for many reasons. Right now, no one else knew about them. But surprisingly, it didn’t bothered Vanessa as much as she imagined. It still felt like a pretty normal relationship, when they continue to meet pretty much like dates, under the willow in the parc, the café or anywhere else, really.
Also, Vanessa understood why it was still a secret. She might still not know or understand everything about royalty and nobility, but still enough to understand why it was better to not blurt it out.
Actually, she was enjoying this calm secrecy. For now, it was enough, being just with Nozel was enough. Even more than that. Sometimes, she had the feeling that it was him would sometimes felt fed up with the secrecy.
Maybe because he had secrets for so long, he probably had enough of them and didn’t like to keep secret something that made him happy.
Indeed, since they spend time together and even more since they were a secret couple, Nozel seemed happier than he was before. His eyes seemed to brighten up every time he saw her and his smile was more often to seen when they were alone together. As if she made his cold mask disappear by her simple presence.
Did she really had that effect on him?
Well, Nozel definitely had an effect on her. She felt more curious about the world of royals and nobles, she drank less than before and… well, she couldn’t sleep alone anymore. It just felt somehow terribly wrong to be alone in her bed, without someone next to her. Without Nozel, being in his arms or he in hers.
Even more, he definitely cared about her. All those little gestures proved it, even though he always seemed to fear that he wasn’t doing enough. But he was, more than that. Nozel maybe even already cared about her before they became a couple. Why else would he have gifted her that amazing sewing box?
“You really love that sewing box,” Finesse commented, gesturing at said box. Right, she had been there when Vanessa got that gift.
“Oh, that I do. It just has everything! I already loved any kind of needlework before, but thanks to this, I have more motivation than before. Speaking of motivation, when do you and Finral plan to have little babies? I volunteer to sew you all the baby clothing and tiny Black Bull robes for the little ones.”
Finesse chuckled, clearly amused. “When the time is here, we will surely talk to you about it, Vanessa. But I think that won’t be for soon.”
“Oh, why? You don’t want some yet?”
“Oh no, that’s not it. But Finral and I would love to have children one day. It’s just difficult, due to my health.”
“You can’t have any?” Vanessa asked quietly, suddenly scared to asked something hurtful.
To her relief, Finesse just laughed gently, not looking pained by the question at all.
“I understand that this would be the first thought you have, but no, I am actually fertile. I can have children. But a pregnancy in my condition is very risky, so we need to be very cautious. Finral and I talked about adoption sometimes. It’s not usual for nobility to adopt and not loved either, but I don’t really care if it’s the norm or not.”
“Why is adoption not loved in nobility,” Vanessa asked, surprised. “You don’t need to be only bond by blood to be like family.”
“I know. You Black Bulls are one of the best proofs of it or Astas little church family in Hage. But family feeling and affection isn’t the norm within nobility. What’s more important is to continue the line, the bloodline, and for that, you need heirs. Not adopted but from your own blood. The reasons and excuses for this are various and complex, so I won’t bother you with them. But adoption is considered a commoner or peasant luxury, because nobles care more about the bloodline and if the heirs will get a magic that matches the family standard. Even I have sometimes to understand this logic myself. But this is sadly how the majority of nobles view things that should actually be beautiful and honourable.”
 “This sucks.”
“Crude, but true. But I know the status quo and this is not a useless knowledge. Knowing how it works is always helpful if you want to make a change, even the tiniest one. There’s not much I can do because I’m not so healthy, but I still can do something. Adoption is one of those things I can do. Even better if it’s with Finral. We have already Langris’ support for this decision and my mother is on our side as well, that’s important.”
Vanessa paused in her embroidery to look at Finesse with surprise, but also admiration. Despite her poor health, Finrals wife was much more determined than she looked like. She might seem just kind, accepting and discreet, which she was, but underneath she was more than that. She used her knowledge to help and to change things into a better shape. Finesse might knew that she couldn’t do much and not everything she probably wanted, but that didn’t seemed to stop her. It seemed that for her, even the smallest changes were powerful successes.
Vanessa smiled. Finral got himself a wonderful wife.
But Finesse’s words, it still made her wonder…
Was it so difficult for uncorrupted nobles and royals to make a change in their circle? Vanessa knew now that not every noble and royal in the kingdom were arrogant jerks who just thought about themselves. Finesse and her mother weren’t, Finral too and Langris as well, now that he was free from the influence of his parents and starting to be more decent. Noelle wasn’t like that either or Gauche. Mereoleona was a league on her own, captain Fuegoleon was loyal and true to a point it deserved an award, and Leopold, and Mimosa. Even difficult people like Kirsch Vermillion and even more so Nebra Silva at least started to use what they could to make a change, as tiny as it seemed.
There were actually more uncorrupted nobles and royals than one would thought.
And Nozel was one of them…
Did he want things to change? It wouldn’t surprise Vanessa, honestly. Nozel seemed so often unhappy about so many topics, be it responsibility or not. He didn’t show it, but it was there, Vanessa didn’t learned to look behind his cold mask for nothing. Whatever his course of action was, it certainly wasn’t open and direct, more hidden and on the long run for the results. At least, that’s how she came to understand him.
Why was he acting like this, though? Why the most difficult and complicated way? Has it to do with the fact he lost his mother and had to take over a royal house while still being a child? A grieving and broken child at that? How did this influenced the view others had of him, especially those nobles who didn’t seemed to respect him like at first glance.
Vanessa liked at Finesse again, who was just enjoying the afternoon sun. Well, she was a royal, even though she was came from a secondary branch and by that wasn’t directly a Kira. But that didn’t matter to Vanessa now, those topic about main and secondary branches were too complicated anyway. But as a royal, Finesse surely has her opinion on Nozel.
“Finesse…”
“Hm?”
“What do you know about Nozel Silva?”
“The captain of the Silver Eagles? Why do you ask? Do you want to join his fan-club? Well, he is good-looking and many girls have a crush on him.”
“No, that’s not it,” Vanessa replied as casual as she could, trying her best to not blush. She really hoped that she didn’t already said too much
She also hoped that the fact of Nozels fan-club won’t bother her that much. She already knew he was popular within the kingdom, she already knew he had admirers. Why wouldn’t he, he was handsome, more than that? Besides, Vanessa had his heart and she knew him, unlike those girls who probably only saw an image of him. So, why should this bother her.
Finesse just smiled, but didn’t ask or tease. In fact, she just put her hands on her lap and started to tell, “Well, you know, Nozel and I almost got engaged years ago.”
“Wait, what?”
Vanessa almost let her embroidery fall due to the shock. Finesse just chuckled with compassion at her reaction.
“I know, it is kinda surprising. It’s no wonder you’re a bit shocked. It was never public knowledge, so there’s that.”
“How… how was that decided?”
“It’s not really a happy story, it is more sad. You know, there aren’t many Silvas anymore, not even secondary branches. Just four. Nozel, Nebra, Solid and Noelle. Compared to the Kiras and Vermillions who counts many members, it is less than the accepted minimum, in a way. Some believe that house Silva is cursed, because most of the members either die young or in celibacy, for most. Personally, I don’t believe it’s true, it just happens to be a sad coincidence. Add to this that the current house heads of the Kiras and the Vermillions doesn’t like the Silvas, especially Nozel. I don’t exactly know where this Silva-phobia comes from, exactly. It was already there before when lady Acier was house head, maybe even at the times of her father, Roc Silva. But it seems to have increased after her death, when Nozel came in charge. He was only fifteen, after all.”
Vanessa had no idea what to say.
“It is rare that royals marries into another royal house, but it can happen. But I’m not fully a Kira, just a Calmreich and with my health, me bearing children was a high risk. Some people thought back then that maybe I won’t have any. And I think this was a reason why I was suggested as potential fiancée for lord Nozel. Giving the head of house Silva a spouse that probably won’t give him any children, won’t continue the Silva bloodline, while there was so few Silvas left. I think it was lord Achilles Vermillions idea, he’s always so harsh on the Silvas. But that didn’t continue, because even he knew that fragilize another royal house like that could fragilize the whole royalty in Clover. Besides, Lac Silva, the father of the current Silva siblings, wasn’t so keen on the perspective and since my uncle and lord Achilles have him in high regards, they gave up on the project. Which was a relief for both Nozel and me. Now, I’m married to Finral and I hope Nozel would find someone as well to cherish.”
There was almost a teasing undertone within the last sentence, but Vanessa didn’t jumped on it. What Finesse told her lined up perfectly with what she already gathered concerning Nozels world and story. She had no idea what to say, what to even think concretely. It was so fucked up and unfair, to both Nozel and Finesse.
But one thing was clear to Vanessa. “Neither you nor Nozel deserved to be treated that way. Adopted or not, you’re going to be an amazing mother, Finesse.”
She was certain of that. Finesse had been treated unfairly with that almost engagement to Nozel, just because of her health. It was admirable how she dealt with it and how it proves that she was stronger than most people would give her credit for. She and Finral deserved to be parents in the future.
Nozel too deserved this kind of happiness, not for continuing the Silva bloodline, but because it was time that good things would happen to him, after what he’d been through since his mother died.
Vanessa wondered for a moment what kind of parent he would be. Maybe overprotective, but certainly caring, that she was sure of it. She could see him taking time for his children, being a good father for them…
Well, it was of course too early to think about this kind of future, but Vanessa couldn’t help but dream a bit. Nozel smiling, with a silver haired baby in his arms. Or was the hair more pink?
Wait, what was she thinking about? That was way more focused than the daydreams she had lately. Why was she thinking so clearly about such a future when their relationship was still so young and still a secret?
And somehow, it made her happy…
“Thank you Vanessa. Well, I think you’re going to be an amazing aunt. And a mother as well, but it’s really too early for that for now, am I right?”
What?
Vanessa almost dropped her embroidery again, stunned, while looking at Finesse, who had a kind and know smile on her lips. Wait… Did Finesse know about… Did she had suspicions of a sort? How?
Vanessa couldn’t ask, because Charmy called for dinner. Finesse stood up immediately, putting a hand on Vanessas shoulder before going back into the hideout. Somehow, that gesture had felt so encouraging, telling her to not give up.
Shocked, hopeful, frightened, happy… A mix of emotions run through Vanessa, as she almost automatically put her work back and took her sewing box, before walking back to the hideout.
Was she ready or not? For what exactly?
But one thing was certain. Nozel would now always be part of her life.
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gooeyslime · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 8 or 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child.
As a show of forgiveness though, maybe Gregorys mother could come back as a ghost and continue to be Vanessas therapist, since she doesn't trust herself around living therapists because of previous experience.
Honestly that is such an interesting idea, and making his mom be one of Vanessa's therapists is great, imagine him finding the tapes with Freddy and listening to them as he pieces together that something is up with Vanessa and then he hears his mom's voice, then it hits him and for the first time while being stuck in the Pizzaplex Gregory cries, not because he's scared for his life but because he heard his mom's voice after so long and because he knows what happened to her... Luckily for him Freddy's with him and he's comforting him but also lets him cry and mourn because it's ok to let his feelings out. After that he's even more determined to get to the bottom of this, he's gonna end this nightmare for real.
Post freeing Vanessa I think Gregory would wait to tell her what she did, just bc he sees how badly she thinks of herself for getting tricked and ending up killing so many people, Freddy being the one to convince him to tell her because she might find out sooner or later and would either assume he didn't know and dealing with having to tell a kid she killed his mom or that he knows and isn't telling her bc he doesn't trust her or whatever...
When she hears what she has done she's a mess, pretty much how she was right after she was freed, sobbing and apologising to Gregory over and over as him and Freddy reassure her it's not her fault bc she was being controlled by Afton... I do like the idea of the therapists or at least Gregory's mom staying behind to help Vanessa because she's gonna need some therapy and honestly Gregory needs it too despite his attitude in Security Breach I'm sure he's got issues too...
Also about Gregory's dad, wouldn't it be messed up if his dad was Jeremy, the guy who cut his face off in Help Wanted? Not only Afton killed his mom through Vanny but he also killed his dad too...
I also imagine Afton knows exactly who Gregory is and as he's watching him wreck Roxy, Chica and Monty he can practically feel the karma about to hit him like a truck, a truck shaped like a very angry child who's ready to throw hands with robots more than twice his size. (I know in the 3 star ending we just free Vanessa but honestly I feel like she would tell Gregory about Afton and he immediately charges towards the elevator to beat up the real bad guy)
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halogenrobotics · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3 star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea, what if instead of abusive parents Gregory had the opposite, 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question, if that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no. 
It is because he dies…
It is quick, unexpected, and there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want.
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to singlehandedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot in making sure Gregory behaves. 
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory just how much his father loved him, even if can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved everyday.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
A bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead, he can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing". Ironically his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory is in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives 
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids, (Like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen
I think that this idea could work, the sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory be distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving…mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child. 
I hope you enjoyed another rambling courtesy of me, bot boy!
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starsfic · 1 year
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 8 or 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child.
As a show of forgiveness though, maybe Gregorys mother could come back as a ghost and continue to be Vanessas therapist, since she doesn't trust herself around living therapists because of previous experience.
I’m just imagining Vanessa going through the stages of grief when she learns about Gregory and his mother.
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riahlynn101 · 1 year
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing.
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child. 
(Great Idea as always :D)
Gregory loves his parents more than anything. Except, well, maybe his Freddy Fazbear plushie. It used to be his dad's when he was kid. It's soft and Gregory likes to curl up with the bear when his parents aren't home.
As all good parents do, Gregory's parents loved him just as much (if not more).
His mom's a therapist. She specializes in treating young children, and she's extremely good at her job.
His dad's a construction worker. He's also very good at his job and is very proud of his work.
Gregory is almost two when his family goes through a financial rough patch. His mom's having a hard time finding families that think therapy is beneficial for their children.
He, of course, being a very young toddler doesn't know this. And his parents do everything in their power to prevent their financial frustrations from leaking through.
Their one saving grace is Gregory's dad's job. It helps keep food on table and the lights on, but that's about it.
Christmas is right around the corner, and Gregory has just turned two. He's been babbling nonstop about some light-up sneakers with Glamrock Freddy's likeness on them.
The parents try to budget for these shoes, as they don't have anything else wrapped for Christmas.
Long story short: they can't afford them.
His dad starts working even harder (they can no longer afford daycare, so all of the childcare falls on Gregory's mom).
Then one night, after a fourteen-hour shift, Gregory's dad finally scores victory. He has enough money to pay the bills and buy his son the shoes he's been raving about.
Except when he gets to the Pizzaplex, all the shoes are sold out.
At least all of the shoes that could plausibly fit his son. The closest size might fit a large nine-year-old or a small ten-year-old.
He still buys them, reasoning that his son can grow into them.
With the purchase done and out of the way, his previous exhaustion is back full force.
He's less than a block away from home when he falls asleep behind the wheel.
Gregory is two when his dad doesn't come home for Christmas.
A shoe box, never wrapped but still in a plastic bag, sits underneath the tree. It's dented as if someone through it around in a fit of rage.
His mom hugs him close, tears falling from her eyes. He holds his Freddy plushie tightly to his chest, trying to remember how it feels when his dad hugs him.
Eventually things go back to normal.
His mom opens her practice to anyone of any age. She works long days, but always manages to come home in time to see Gregory off the bus. She helps him with his homework and likes to read to him from a book of fairytales before bed.
They're financially secure, and his mom's practice is almost all children. She makes the executive decision to go back to serving strictly children between the ages of 2-10.
That is, until a request for an appointment comes through.
A 20-something year old woman all but begs Gregory's mom to take her on.
The patient is strange, but Gregory's mom has always liked a challenge.
Gregory is barely nine when, on a gloomy day in April, his mom fails to meet him at his bus stop.
Before he goes to sleep that night, Gregory tries to call her.
"I'll hate you forever if you leave like dad. Please come home."
It goes straight to voicemail.
He goes to bed that night, snuggling up with his Freddy plushie and a book of fairytales.
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Adding on to this, in idea five you mention Gregory and/or Vanessa being able to see the dead kids/therapists.
Link for anyone wanting the full context:
The amount of angst potential with Gregory and his mom being reunited (kind of), but she has to watch her son be raised by her (unwilling) murderer.
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THOUGHTS ON “DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN”
Now that I’ve had a few days to let the good news sink in:
OMG!!! EIGHTEEN EPISODES!!! CHARLIE COX!!! VINCENT D’ONOFRIO!!!
OK, I’ve gotten that off my chest.
I am cautiously optimistic that TPTB at Disney/Marvel understand the concept of “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
I tend to doubt that “Born Again” means they’re doing a version of the “Born Again” story from the comics. As has already been said by many others, that was done in season 3. My guess is that “Born Again” is simply a reference to the fact that the series and the character are coming back. It’s also possible that Matt/DD was snapped and has come back.
Elden Henson needs to come back as Foggy, and Deborah Ann Woll needs to come back as Karen, along with as many of the original supporting cast as they can bring back: Amy Rutberg as Marci, Joanne Whalley as Sister Maggie, Royce Johnson as Brett, Geoffrey Cantor as Ellison, Ayelet Zurer as Vanessa, to name a few. I would love to see Wilson Bethel come back as Dex/Bullseye, too.
The character of Elektra poses a dilemma, in more ways than one. Elodie Yung was great in the role and fully deserves to come back, but she has her own TV series now and may not be available. I would not want the new series to be delayed because they were waiting for her to be available. If they are writing a different and better-written version of Elektra than the version that appeared in the Netflix series (something I would not be averse to), perhaps recasting the character would work. Or maybe Elektra doesn’t have to appear in season one at all; perhaps she could show up for season two, when Elodie Yung’s availability might not be an issue.
Please bring back as many of the amazing stunt crew from the Netflix series as possible – especially Chris Brewster – and limit the CGI to what is strictly necessary.
I don’t care what suit DD is wearing as long as Charlie Cox and Chris Brewster are wearing it.
Full employment for Charlie Cox is a good thing.
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saltynsassy31 · 2 years
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Bot boy back again (now in college :D) with another idea from my brain
Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3 star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea, what if instead of abusive parents Gregory had the opposite, 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question, if that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no. 
It is because he dies…
It is quick, unexpected, and there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to singlehandedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot in making sure Gregory behaves. 
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory just how much his father loved him, even if can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her everyday.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
A bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead, he can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing". Ironically his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory is in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives 
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids, (Like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen
I think that this idea could work, the sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory be distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving…mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child. 
I hope you enjoyed another rambling courtesy of me, bot boy!
Oh hope you're having fun in college!
But huh, interesting idea! I had a vague idea what I wanted to do with my Gregory's past, I even mentioned it in roleplays on the gregaverse server
Though I never was really satisfied with it, and now this my friend, if you allow I'd like to take into my greedy little hands ( つ ◕w◕ )つ
Of course, with some changes here and there to fit my au better haha I won't say what those changes are in case I ever get to actually make the comic or write it as fanfiction
But yes, I've thoroughly enjoyed your rambles XD have been helping me a lot as well cuz I've been absolutely clueless with what I want to do with Vanessa lol
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the1trueanon · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 8 or 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing.
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next.
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child.
As a show of forgiveness though, maybe Gregorys mother could come back as a ghost and continue to be Vanessas therapist, since she doesn't trust herself around living therapists because of previous experience.
Oh. My god. This is an amazing idea! Gregory's mom being one of the therapists Vanessa went through?? Yes yes yes!! And then going through so many caretakers, and ending up with some asshole? Ooouuugghhhh I wanna hold the poor kid 🥺
("Possessed by a British furry" is the best way I have ever heard Afton and the Glitchtrap virus described, can we keep referring to them as such? XDDD)
But you're right, this would make a lot of Gregory's behaviors make sense, and also tie him in closer with the storyline. He's not just some random kid anymore (or the unfortunate robot child), he's the kid of a victim of Vanny and Glitchtrap.
Plus, him knowing it was "Vannessa" (really Vanny) who killed his mom, and being able to forgive her for it and accept her as a new caretaker figure? B e a u t i f u l. They're slowly moving on, accepting one another, and acknowledging that what they've been through is neither of their faults, and they can choose to either wrongly blame each other, or come together as the last people they really have.
Plus, ghost therapist/mom!! Best thing ever XD
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clanwarrior-tumbly · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 8 or 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing.
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next.
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child.
As a show of forgiveness though, maybe Gregorys mother could come back as a ghost and continue to be Vanessas therapist, since she doesn't trust herself around living therapists because of previous experience.
Oof the moment I saw "therapist" I knew :((((
This also got me thinking: what if Gregory saw the Daycare Attendant and became extremely uncomfortable around him due to his experiences with that one caretaker?
Being yelled at by Sun and chased by Moon constantly (and also finding the message of how someone's kid was traumatized by both) prob brought up unwanted memories
Also I think Vanessa radiates tired aunt energy
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Bot boy back again (now in college :D) with other idea my brain decided to give me.
Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3 star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea, what if instead of abusive parents Gregory had the opposite, 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question, if that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no. 
It is because he dies…
It is quick, unexpected, and there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want.
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to singlehandedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot in making sure Gregory behaves. 
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory just how much his father loved him, even if can't remember him.
She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her everyday.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
A bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong at first, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead, he can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing" His mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory is in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives 
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids, (Like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen
I think that this idea could work, the sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory be distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving…mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child. 
I hope you enjoyed another rambling courtesy of me, bot boy!
Oooh, college! I miss it and I don't, lol.
Oh man, Vanessa/Vanny killing Gregory's mom is... wow, prime angst material. It's a bad time all around, lol. Gregory having good parents is always something I'm a fan of, too.
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emarli-the-doodler · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child
Okay, I really like this actually Ik the common hc abt his parent(s) being abusive is the most valid reason for him to be sleeping outside in a box, but it just doesn't make much since to me personally. I think that he would at least stay in his house even if he was in an abusive household. Gregory is smart, and he knows how things work. He knows if he is out in an alley sleeping he would get hurt or worse. If he has an option, even if he doesn't like it, he will take it. He'll go back home and at least sleep there, then in the morning stay away til the heat of the parents fighting abt him and this and that. I think the little guys got his home life figured out, and wouldn't just run away out of the blue without a plan, but that's just me lol but yes I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS- I FEEL HORRIBLE FOR GREG THO POOR GUY NEEDS A HUG- THIS WOULD ALSO EXPLAIN WHY HE WAS SO ATTACHED TO FREDDY AND EXPRESS GENUINE SADNESS WHEN HE WAS DISASSEMBLED-
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kitty-c4t · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 8 or 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child.
As a show of forgiveness though, maybe Gregorys mother could come back as a ghost and continue to be Vanessas therapist, since she doesn't trust herself around living therapists because of previous experience.
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child
Poor kid just wants a mom and dad again. Someone to make him feel warm and safe because people be shitty excuses for human beings sometime.
But as for him not having shitty parents, just having shitty luck, that's indeed a possibility. But I suppose it's easier if he had shitty ones because then custody battles would go over easier and Vanessa wouldn't have to worry about her Emotional Support Child being taken away from her by the CPS for effectively kidnapping and housing a child. Though I'm still worried and confused bout the whole "No Records" business since that really didn't sound like a lie.
But all I can say is that it's a major oof for both of them, Vanessa especially since, in accordance to what was known, Vanny was "brutal" with her murders and made Vanessa feel every bit of it
In regards to the actual murders of the Therapists though, I always kinda Headcannoned that it wasn't so much Vanny that did the stabbing, and Animatronic's. I mean. The Pizzaplex does have a Pizza catering service that delivers straight to your doorstep. I wouldn't gather it'd be very hard for Vanny, tech sav she was, to find out where the Therapists lived and sicked a robot on them. Especially since she prolly had that magic staff bot controlling button for a while now.
As for Gregory's reaction to Vanessa killing his mother? Well. I think it helps that he never actually "saw" Vanny take off the mask to reveal herself to be Vanessa, because to him, the two might very well be two different people. One's a furry with a murder kink. The other is a traumatized security guard that needs cuddles and plenty of time bonding with Gregory while playing Beat Saber.
Nothing says family time that dancing to the best together after all!
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fnafsbheadcanon · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child
Oh wow I actually really like this storyline. It could work.
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monty-glasses-roxy · 2 years
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Idea 7: Gregory did not have abusive parents.
A lot of fanfics I've read about the 3-star ending all seem to have one thing in common, Gregory having at least one bad parent. Most have Gregory's father being terrible or just having left the family. Some of them have both mother and father be horribly abusive.
I had a different idea: what if instead of abusive parents, Gregory had the opposite: 2 parents who loved him more than anything else. 
That does leave us with a troublesome question: If that's the case, then why does Gregory evidently live in a box?
Let us create a timeline of possible events:
Gregory is born.
At around age 2 or something, Gregory's father is now out of the picture. This isn't because he abandons his family, no.
It is because he dies.
It is quick and unexpected, there is no warning. The reason can be whatever you want. (The more tragic the better.)
So now Gregory's mother (M from here on out) now has to single-handedly take care of toddler Gregory.
She does an amazing job! Her normal profession as a therapist (wink) helps her a lot with making sure Gregory behaves.
It also helps M explain to him where his father is, and helps him grasp the dark concept of death at an early age.
M also makes certain that Gregory knows just how much his father loved him, even if he can't remember him. She makes sure to let him know he is loved by her every day.
M also teaches him some basic housekeeping tasks, so that Gregory can take care of himself when she has late nights at work.
Then one day at work, when Gregory is around 9, M gets a new patient at work. Some blonde beta tester, the only thing of note is her inconsistent childhood memories and the fact her 4 previous therapists have gone missing. 
It's a bit weird and slightly concerning, but what is the worst that can happen?
… I think we all know what happened next. 
Gregory wouldn't suspect anything was wrong, thinking his mom is just having another late night at work.
Then some people show up, they say that his mother has, *ahem* "gone missing" and that they have to take him to an orphanage for the time being.
Gregory immediately knows that his mother is dead. He can hear it when they stutter just before saying "gone missing." Ironically, his mother did the same thing when she first explained where his father went.
Before he gets a chance to properly grieve, Gregory gets put in an orphanage with about a dozen other children. This is because he doesn't have any relatives.
Most of the caretakers there seem apathetic. Some care a bit more, but it is leagues away from how much his mother cares-... cared for him.
One of the caretakers seems to actively hurt him whenever they can. They hate kids (like Vanessa in the game, but without the valid excuse of being possessed by a British furry) and seemingly only took the job either as a way to get some easy money or as a chance to hurt kids.
When Gregory finally gets a chance to cry over his mother's death, that "caretaker" is there yelling at him to "stop whining and get over it"
This is too much for him, so he decides to run away. He finds living in a box in an alley to be difficult, but at least no one can hurt him now.
Then the games events happen.
I think that this idea could work. The sudden shift between having a loving home and then being thrown into a harsher environment would make Gregory distrustful of adult strangers.
After everything though, things would get better. Gregory gets the father figure he never really had in the form of a robot bear (wow this series has gotten weird) and a loving… mother? Sister? Aunt figure? in Vanessa.
            Also if you're wondering how Gregory would react to learning who killed his mother, I think he would understand that it was Vanny’s doing, not Vanessa's, and be quick to reassure her that he doesn't blame her. Vanessa would likely hate herself just that little bit more, knowing that it was her (noitwasvannys) who orphaned a child.
As a show of forgiveness though, maybe Gregorys mother could come back as a ghost and continue to be Vanessas therapist, since she doesn't trust herself around living therapists because of previous experience.
At this point, there is no obvious connection between Vanny and Vanessa. Like there is one and we know this, but visually? There isn't.
As such, I can see it being much easier to have different associations for the both of them. Like, Vanny is the killer rabbit, Vanessa is the security guard. They're completely different. Whereas, if Vanny didn't have the costume, that association would be blurred into one and it would be a lot harder to serparate the two. So long as Vanessa doesn't get a career in voice acting creepy villains or start skipping around instead of walking, I think Gregory would be fine on that honestly.
Anyway, yeah I saw you send this one to someone else and I still like it a lot! It gives Gregory more story and more to work with than just "oh he was abused growing up". Now you have the added "Everyone he trusted is now gone and has been replaced with people that hurt him. He's had everything taken away from him and now has to find a way to rebuild despite him only being a child and that this shouldn't be his responsibility to do." Which is a lot more interesting and adds a lot more to the character I feel.
Good stuff buddy
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