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So I've seen some people talk about how Belos ruined the human Realm for Hunter by possessing him and killing Flapjack and that's why he was ready to go back to the Demon Realm, but honestly I take a slightly different interpretation.
Having grown up in an abusive home that I managed to escape from the scene rang with extreme familiarity and felt like it was depicting what happens if you reach a turning point and and are able to find the strength to fight back against your abuser. (Which is great to see in kid's media, love it, it's so encouraging wrt to your *right* to think your abuser is jackass.)
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I mean at the end of the day, Belos had already "ruined" the Demon Realm, too. It was the place where Hunter was abused and manipulated. People have pointed out in some meta that he talks about "that throne room" the way abuse victims talk about "that house" when talking about where they were abused. Because that throne room was where he emotionally abused and if the implications about physical abuse are right, it's where he was likely physically abused as well, because of the privacy there.
We see the throne room is the private place where Hunter is expected to drop to a knee and bow before him, and to stay mostly still even as Belos nearly strikes his face. It's the place where sometimes it's only Hunter and Belos, where he's free to hurt him all he wants, with words or blows.
That said, I do think the human world was very good for him and definitely a revelation. It was a place where the nearest adult, Camila, was kind and nurturing and willing to take on parenting a whole gaggle of kids, constantly trying to figure out what's best for them (hence the trying to figure out where to find apple blood and their diets, etc).
It was safe for him to take up soft, non-combat hobbies useless to being a Coven guard like sewing (gently taught to him by Camila, a kind adult) to pick up nerdy interests like cosplay and basically being a Trekkie, and to wear comfy sweaters (and crocs!) instead of things with utility or decorum.
The human world being a place without Belos made him feel safe enough to be a normal teen. Openly. Not in secret, talking to online friends on Penstagram on his Scroll where Belos couldn't see (a hugely accurate thing for a lot of abuse victims, online friends being a lifeline).
But unfortunately Belos was there, and alive, and as long as Belos is alive he's going to try to hurt Hunter, his home realm, Hunter's loved ones, and their loved ones.
After Flapjack dies the worst has happened. Belos came after him. Again. He literally controlled his body itself, and bored his way under his skin. Given he was consuming the flesh of animals and how he was back to full size after leaving Hunter, and Hunter was injured in the spots where he was goo, and needed to be healed, he possibly even dissolved and consumed some of his body.
And he killed his first friend - and lbr his best friend. With Hunter's own hands.
But the thing that makes it not just about something bad happening on Earth is that he still clearly loves parts of his home realm. There are things there he's always wanted that he still wants to have and tells Belos as such. Being a normal student at Hexside. Flyer derby with his friends. Learning about wild magic and Palismen-carving. He still calls it "home" probably in part for all the things there that he wanted to have growing up that Belos wouldn't let him. Things he's ready to fight for.
He loves things in both worlds, and Belos is clearly a threat in both worlds - a threat Hunter finally managed to resist. And even though Flapjack died, Hunter's still alive to fight because of his sacrifice.
He's ready to fight to make Belos pay for his deceit, abuse, and forced isolation; for trying to kill his world on the Day of Unity; for attacking his friends; and for his Palisman's murder.
It doesn't seem like he's leaving the human world because it's ruined, it comes off more like he's finally overcome his fear enough to go back to reclaim the world where he was abused because it's the home of his friends and because of all the good in it he always wanted to have. It's time to go home and make it safe enough to be home.
Yes, he looks exhausted, but he's the first one to go through after Belos, which is pretty fearless. It doesn't read like defeat, it reads like he's ready to walk through the portal and send an old man straight to hell.
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mosovi-vian · 1 year
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And I will stay alive for my future self, so they can one day learn to be kind to who I was as a child. And I will teach them to honor who we used to be, so they can remember the comfort of what once was our untempered flesh and gentle soul. Me and myself are each a fresh wound and a rough scab, bearing respectively the gift of green faith and honed will.
This has been in my draft for a while because I was determined to post this only after I knew what I should write underneath it. I’ve read a lot on the concept of healing the wounded inner child since even before my c-ptsd diagnosis. However, I’ve sought as much comfort in my little self as they had in me. Looking back, I was an impressively emotionally-intuitive kid. I remember well how I used to think, the things I would write to my future self; they were wiser and gentler than I could ever hope to be as an adult. Needless to say, the little poem above is inspired by the aforementioned experience. Sure, big me is armed with a more developed pre-frontal cortex and access to invaluable resources (coping mechanisms, therapy, on and offline communities) , but I struggle to rediscover/reinvent my identity. Little me was the biggest vestige of my lost personhood. So yeah, this might be just a huge self-indulgent projection with my favorite character, but thinking that post-S3 Hunter would also be in my shoes is not completely baseless. 16yrs old Hunter is the fresh wound (a lot of things happened before his teen years, but I’m going to interpret the events of Hollow Mind - which happened when Hunter was 16 - as the ultimate boiling point in his trauma timeline, hence the ‘fresh wound') and 20yrs old Hunter is the rough scab. Each version of Hunter could be dealing with a different set of trauma-induced symptoms. I think his loyalty to Belos kept him going as a child. Being doubtless was important to Hunter back then; it held his sense of self together. And maybe when he survived and was rewarded the time and space to grow into his own person and live for himself, there was this lasting emptiness. I feel this sort of emptiness even today. My only reference of what ‘wholeness’ felt like was when I was obedient to my family. I equated self-abandonment as the righteous norm. The symptoms I deal with today are definitely different from when I was Hunter’s age pre-time-skip. Now that Hunter is in a safe space and an adult post-time skip, he might also need to seek that strength from his younger self. Reminding himself of how far he’s come and the parts of him that he'd like to keep from his past. The parts that he knows in his bones are purely his - not instilled by Belos, not inherited from Caleb.
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adh-d2 · 3 months
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TBB team absolutely clowning us crediting a random technician in s03e01 as 'Imperial Tech'
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magidragon12 · 2 years
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THE OWL HOUSE - LUZ'S NEURODIVERGENCE
I know when people talk about representation in the Owl House, they mean the big stuff, the queerness. And yeah, Thanks to Them has a lot of that, and it was great, but there's one moment in the episode that particularly stuck with me.
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THIS SCENE
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THE NEURODIVERGENT REPRESENTATION
This is something I've seen people on tumblr talk about a lot. About how the school system isn't designed for everyone's brain, and it shouldn't be a measure of who is the cleverest, or who puts in the most effort, or who is the most worthy.
Luz is clever. Just not at the kind of subjects they teach. And even when she is, it comes and goes, or she can't focus and applies herself too little, or too much and just generally can't operate on the level they require from her 100 percent of the time.
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The fact that they finally outright say it, the reasons she's been struggling in her own world, and point out her difference in such an obvious way makes me so happy.
Because think about it. Think about it the way you think about Amity and Luz asking each other out onscreen, or Raine's pronouns. There are children out there right now too young to voice themselves on the Internet, who sit around and watch this show.
Children who might be struggling in school, and see themselves in Luz. Children whose struggles and stories are finally being voiced, and who are being shown that it's okay to feel this way. You're just like this character here. You were built to excell somewhere else and it's okay that you are.
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It's satisfying and sad. Real life children won't get to escape to the Boiling Isles, but they might see this scene, and push aside the narrative that they are a failure. That they'll never be more than the problem child.
All because of this wonderful show which voices, inspires, and represents people who have been waiting for it their whole lives.
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Please don't think I'm trying to discredit the LGBTQ+ or poc or any other kind of rep in the show, I love it all, I just really wanted to talk about this side of it.
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annikasevenshots · 1 year
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There are 3 things to remember about being a starship captain. (insp.)
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puppyeared · 2 years
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HUNTER NOCEDA REAL
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nerdalmighty · 1 year
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First and Last Last Lines of The Owl House: Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 |
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moofshroom · 2 years
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“mom saw my report card. ‘mija, if you just applied youself-’ i am applying myself! my beast ball stitches are soo small, they’re practically invisible! and, i can read and write witch tongue in five different dialects. also i can so perfectly still that woodland creatures come and sit on me! but i guess none of this is going to matter on the SATs.” oh my GOD. the fact that the owl house is willing to have this conversation about school and how the education system is brutal on the self-perception of its students, especially its neurodivergent students is incredible to see on the screen. from what ive seen, other neurodivergent people like myself have also related to this scene and if i had that comfort of “youre not alone in these sort of experiences” when i was younger it wouldve helped me so much. a good grade or a good score on a test isnt the only definer for worth and intelligence.
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cha1cedony · 21 days
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Looked up the Ford Edsel transmission… this would cause me to crash too tbh
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mametupa · 9 days
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raogrhysc · 2 years
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Lumity in "Thanks to them"
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mosovi-vian · 1 year
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Tired.
Season 3 only made birdman even more special to me. I see myself a lot in Hunter, and while it could just be me projecting I really think his behavior in the past two specials reflects where I am in my own healing journey. The one step forward two steps back then two step forward one step back part of his recovery stage in life hits home. I guess this is vent art?? Abuse recovery is a bitch, and new trauma can always form even when you're making progress. I think that's why Flapjack's death really stuck with me. This is a time in Hunter's life when resiliency is especially needed, and I'm glad that Willow and his friends will be there to support him through it. This character has given me a lot of insight into my own past experiences and inspires me to reach out to find my people in the world, and I cannot thank Dana and the crew enough for the show.
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agiroflee98 · 1 year
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While Ellie is dealing with the whole David situation, imagine Joel having the most insane fever dream where he's a warrior covered in silver armor & he's walking around a strange planet with a green baby with big ears & a guy in flowing red robes telling him about how there's a place for them to stay on this planet. & the warrior says "thanks - but I have some matters to look after." Important matters regarding his child. The child snuggled up in his arms clutching his thumb or the child from another world that feels so familiar - who he senses is in terrible danger?
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sarucane · 7 months
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OFMD Spiral Narrative Analysis 50: Beards and Unconditional Love
Intro: What I love most about how season 2 builds on season 1 of OFMD is the spiral narrative structure. Ground is repeatedly and explicitly re-trod from season 1 to season 2, but in season 2 everything goes deeper than season 1. Meanings are shuffled, emotions are stronger and truer, and transformation is showcased above everything. The first season plucks certain notes, then the second season plucks the same ones--but louder, and then it weaves them together to create a symphony.
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In season 1, Ed's beard is a visible determinant of his identity--he's literally named Blackbeard after all. But as soon as we see even part of Ed's face, the show also immediately signals that Ed's identity as Blackbeard doesn't line up with his identity as a whole: his beard isn't black.
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Only the mustache is black. Ed's literally outgrown being Blackbeard, and his internal tensions around his sense of self are literally right there on his face.
The beard does the same thing the identity does: it shields Ed, protects him behind a persona just like the beard keeps his face warm. It hides his emotions, dampens his facial expressions so he's harder to read. And the beard is also a trap, something he's stuck with at all times, just like his Blackbeard persona.
And then it's just gone.
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And Ed is so disconnected from that loss, just like he's been increasingly disconnected from the Blackbeard persona, that he doesn't even register why Stede is surprised to see his normal face.
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And the shift in vulnerability is immediate, and striking. And Ed welcomes it, because as he says "that was over years ago." He's past that persona, past the part of his life when he wanted to project power and hide his face. At least, he is right now.
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For Stede, this is a startling and not entirely welcome development for two reasons:
It unexpectedly shifts and intensifies his relationship with Ed. Ed and Stede don't actually talk about their feelings until the beard is off. This is a big deal emotionally, and Stede's already drowning in emotional turmoil.
Because he thinks it's bad. He thinks Ed has lost something important, no matter what Ed actually says to him.
Later on, when Chauncy is accusing him of being a monster, Stede thinks back to the moment he saw Ed beardless.
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To Stede, Ed's beard disappearing is an exposure. To Ed, it's a liberation--and one he doesn't actually connect to Stede. He stays vulnerable when he returns to the Revenge. His thinking on the hilltop wasn't just about Stede, it was about himself, too.
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And he doesn't want to change backwards, even if Stede's left him.
And it's worth mentioning at this stage that a beard is a time-honored euphemism for faked heterosexuality, and when Ed comes back to the Revenge he's both beardless and wandering around in a pink flowery nightdress left over from his boyfriend. Not to mention his physicality here--it's just noticeably more queer-coded than at any time before.
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Ed is developing an identity that doesn't require his beard...except that he's also not shaving. He's got the stubble there from the beginning. The foreshadowing of his impending regression is right there on his face.
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So when Izzy pushes, Ed falls.
But the thing about growing backwards is, you can't. Just like Ed can't will a beard onto his face when he decides to embrace the Blackbeard identity.
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So, he draws a beard on. An actual black beard, a symbol of how he's trying to be more truly Blackbeard than ever before, trying to force himself into a monstrous and therefore unhurtable (and unlovable) persona.
And the "trying too hard"+"this is unhealthy" notes of this new beard are immediately obvious. He doesn't just draw a beard on, he goes and paints his whole face, like he's trying to make the "beard" consume him.
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But he can't go back. This is just a surface layer, easily removed whether Ed wants it to be or not. He can't escape himself, or his pain. All it takes to remove this beard is a bit of water.
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In the second season, he's still using the makeup to darken his face and beard.
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But the layered meanings are deeper here, again, because he isn't shaving under the makeup to keep a perfect, fake black beard. He's growing a real beard that's mixing with the fake beard: this phase of his life--as he tries to be Blackbeard and over-corrects, hurting everyone around him--is going to stay with him.
In the first season, Ed couldn't just go back to being Blackbeard; in the second, he can't go back to just being Edward. That moment has passed, if it ever was that simple in the first place: his relationships to others and to himself are permanently different in season 2. He doesn't shave this season, and keeps a short beard the entire time.
But after all the fuss in S1E9 about Ed's beard being gone, there's one more episode where that transition is brought up again.
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Mary doesn't much like Ed's loss of his beard--which makes sense, considering she's about to go back to pirating herself, and Ed losing the beard was a symbolic separation from piracy.
Ed's response, meanwhile, illuminates very clearly just how badly Stede hurt him. Ed shaved that beard off because of Stede, become vulnerable because of Stede. And he's lying about immediately regretting the decision, and Stede knows it. Ed's telling Stede that his current opinion on their relationship matches Stede's fears back when he bailed out (that he brought history's greatest pirate to ruin). That to him, the whole thing was a mistake.
Stede doesn't believe him, but it does hurt, and it does highlight the consequences of his carelessness back in season 1. Stede made Ed regret being vulnerable with Stede; he hurt Ed so badly that Ed gave up on himself.
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And Stede owns this. And he deals with it, and weathers it, because he wants to make this work with Ed.
And you can't go backwards--but sometimes you can circle back. Ed's hurt over dinner sends him back emotionally to where he was right after Stede left--almost literally.
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As Ed and Stede talk through it, Stede connects Ed's beard directly to the intensity of their relationship in that moment and how it made him panic.
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And Ed voices the insecurities he's been building up ever since that conversation with Izzy: that his vulnerability without the beard was somehow wrong, that Stede's leaving was a rejection of that exposed self, and proved how unlovable and worthless he really is.
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And Stede overrides all of that. When Stede first saw Ed without his beard, he was horrified over what it meant. He was an idiot being controlled by his own insecurities. He's grown since then, and he knows how he feels, and who he's talking to.
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Stede and Ed deal with a lot of shit in this season, and find that their love requires serious work. But this here? This is a statement of unconditionality. Ed, Edward, Blackbeard, the kraken; Ed embracing one identity or balancing between several; Ed with a big bushy beard, no beard, or a short beard: Stede loves it all.
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Ed doesn't really believe this when he hears it. When he leaves Stede later, he says "fishermen and pirates are nothing alike." It'll take him a while to trust what to Stede is a simple truth--after all, he doesn't love everything about himself, how could Stede? But Stede knows now that a beard is just a beard.
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annikasevenshots · 1 year
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Seven + her lil smirk when given her own command 🥺
(S02E10 vs S03E01 vs S03E08)
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floworence · 2 years
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Dana really said: "If you are taking me down for gay I will MAKE IT MORE G A Y"
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