This Is A Gay Asian Rant About BL Comments Made By Some Queer Westerners I See Sometimes.
So you know of those gays (usually white) that made dumb tiktok dancing to list of countries that legalized same sex marriage and list of countries that discriminate against LGBTQIA+ poeple as a way to say something racist. yeah i kinda got the same vibes from some comments regard how asian BL is homophobic just cause they don't live up to queer western standard. look, i'm not saying that some BLs and their creators don't deserve criticism regard how they capitalized/exploited queerness for an easy cash grab.
But people need to understand that Asian countries despite recent progress are still very much culturally conservatives. so when people says that thai bl is homophobic and all the characters looks like bunch of straight guys, which is true for some olders thai BLs i'm not gonna denied that. but after all this time and newer BLs generally being very queer and most of creators being out queer themself and poeple still making these comments, i'm annoyed.
And don't get me start on the actors. you don't know them! why are you making assumption and calling them queerbaiter just cause they acts in bl. like maybe they're straight, maybe they're not but what they're definitely doing is making queer content for you know, queer people here. so when you made halfass comments about their sexuality what do you think that made other queer people who still in the closet feels. and when you add the nationality to that, "these thai bl pair are this and that, this korean actor is so ungrateful for his bl past", etc. when our societies are still very much still in progress regard LGBTQIA+ acceptance. it make us living here feels fucking awful like somehow we're lesser queer than people in the west just cause we don't have citibank at pride or some shit.
And the shittiest in my humbled opinion are comments regard censored chinese bls. people do know like, that the creators making these bls are risking their livelihoods for this. that these shows getting make at all are miracles. yes it sucked that they're censored but they're still very much queer shows making by queer people who want to express thier queerness despite the chinese government being the chinese government. when people dimissing these shows as not belonging in queer media, you're also dimissing their creators and audiences as not belonging in the community.
Look what i want to say is that we're trying our best over here, and maybe our best are not up to your liking. the ways we talk and express our queerness maybe still can be perceived as problematic by western queer standard. but these media are our house and you're the guests. for people aren't shitty we appreciated that you're here engaging and loving our media, this is your home too and you're welcome in it. i can speak for myself that i very much love being here on tumblr and interacting with people from all over the world who love BL. but for people who are being shitty sometimes about asian bl.
YOU'RE THE GUESTS, BEHAVE!
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You have a lot of great meta posts, are they catalogued anywhere? Or any specific tags I should look at? I've been looking through your "history of BL" and "BL tropes" so far. Fantastic work BTW
Meta Post of My BL Master Posts!
Thank you so much! I keep a spreadsheet offline (because I have a spreadsheet for everything, I LOVE THEM with a pure untainted devotion), but that's not super helpful for you, now is it? A lot of my master posts have links to other posts in them or at the bottom so I hope you’ll forgive me for just directing you mostly at those? That way, if you’re intersted, the rabbit hole awaits. Ready? Here we go!
Top Tear Master Posts
BL MASTER POST - WHAT IS BL? + more links to all the important stuff
BL Foundations Syllabus Master Post - BL 101 Film Course - An Introduction to the Genre (if I were to teach a course on BL)
Intro Level BL Starter Pack Master Post - specific BL shows I would recommend to someone just getting into the genre
BL Breakdowns By Country - master post country by country analysis, a broad overview designed to manage watcher expectations, not as a socio-critical pop-culture analysis
History of Asian BL - Form of… PHD THESIS! Why is there a big industry in many Asian countries for gay romance shows but little in the US, Canada, or UK?
THAI BL MASTER POST - So this is a master post about Thai BL. It’s long. I’ve divided it into parts. Skip to the bits you’re intersted in.
BL Directors - Overview - training to spot the different directors and their BL styles
BL Language & Culture Master Post (mostly Thai) - round up guides to linguistic & language posts I’ve done over the years
Welcome to Tumblr BL Fandom - Here’s Your Primer
Meta Post - All My Stuff on the BL Industry
Other Useful BL Generalist Posts
Heat & Angst in BL + Terms Explained (dubcon, HEA, etc...)
Defining Seme/Uke (MORE seme/uke discussion including some coaching from P’AbsoluteBL on your sex life....)
Defining Chemistry - Giving Good Kiss in BL
WHY SO MUCH DUB CON IN BL? Fantasies Seme/Uke (AGAIN) Cultural Biases
BL - The Second Coming - Your favorite BL is getting a second season! Should you be scared or excited? Let's look at data.
How long does it usually take from an announcement to getting more info on a BL being made?
BL Review & Information Content Providers/Blogs OFF Tumblr
The History of the Genre Series
Top 10 BLs Out of China + history of the genre
Top 10 BLs Out of Japan + history of the genre
Top 10 BLs Out of Korea + history of the genre
Top 10 BLs Out of Taiwan + history of the genre
Top 10 BLs Out of Thailand + history of the genre
My Top 60 BLs - The Elite 10% of 600 Watched (as of mid 2023)
Chef de Smooching - Recipes for BL
Let’s Play Frankenstein’s BL! (best worst production by country)
If You Dated BL - country by country amusement
BL Master List of 415 BLs as of mid 2022
Queer Stuff
BL Linguistics & Queer Identity - I Am Gay versus I Like Men
Will BL Get More Honestly Queer?
Actually gay, not BL gay - the idea of "by queers, for queers, about queers," the BL bubble, sanitized gay, and a queer lens
Queer lens (from the director) and chemistry (from the actors) in BL (A Tale of Thousand Stars)
Touch & Daisy in Secret Crush On You - Queer Coded Language and 3rd Gender Identity
BL in Taiwan & Gay Marriage
Debating Queerbaiting in BL ( + Devil Judge... is it queerbaiting?)
BL Actors and the Assumption of Queerness - outing actors, coming out, being out, more: Is that BL actor actually queer?
So is it really fetishization? straight women loving bl
Some BL fans are sasaengs, and it’s a problem in this fandom
BLs That Highlight How Society Treats Queers
10 BLs That Are Honest to a Queer Experience
10 GREAT Chemistry BLs to Binge
BL Actor Pairs - Meta Guide (this is a marketing tactic - no, really, there are no exceptions, not even your favorites, sorry honey, welcome to the fandom), my term for this tends to be Cobranding
About Me Personally
BL FAQ - personal favorites, beginnings, how I got started, what I like best, where I find shows
My Journey to BL via SFF, Yaoi & M/M Romance
fan psyche and capacity for nostalgia
My Absolute Top 15 Best (and Worst) BLs
Favorite BL Nuggets of Narrative
400 BLs, My 40 Favorite Moments
All My BL Series Watch Alongs and Epic Trash Watchings
Top 10 Most Underrated BLs
because I, weirdly, get these ones a lot:
this is basically what I do
I hold multiple citizenships & passports
currently I lurk on the left coast of the USA
I travel a lot for work & pleasure, so when I vanish it’s just I lost internet access (I’m not dead yet)
my (too many) degrees are in (among other things) anthropology + maths (focus on stats, history of pop culture, etc... look, it made sense at the time and it seems to have worked out for me)
my gender is: working in theory terrible in practice, I genuinely do not care what you wanna call me
sexually I identify as omnivorous
I swear a lot and I will eat absolutely anything, including very spicy food NO LIMITS!
i am a fan of Kpop but i consider myself a dilettante and not active in that fandom (TOO CRAZY) if you push me though: GOT7 (b. Jinyoung bw. Jay B) and BTOB (b. Minhyuk) more here, that said if your blog is too Kpop heavy I won’t follow back (sorry, I’m here for the BL)
I tend to be under pretty heavy NDAs so due to that + my queerness and involvement in kink I’m highly protective of my own safety, location, and IRL identity, so that’s all ya get.
My MDL profile (all my reviews of shows are also put on MDL, and I only review BL)
Memes & Silly Shizz
5 Love Languages of Thai BL
ABCs of Thai BL
BL Couples as my High School Friendship Group
BLs as K-pop groups
Honest Elevator Pitches for Thai BL
University Gayness Ranking via Thai BL
Your Favorite Thai BL Couples = What to Watch Next?
Not Just BL
Explaining Thai to the Casual BL Watcher - It Has Registers
Thai Honorifics Between Ages in BL and real life
Linguistically fascinating BL couples
I’ve a lot more on the Thai language and BL, mostly cross linked int he above posts
ASIAN GL History of GL - Popularity Struggles
Favorite Noona Romance Recs!
Also, you are so right I should come up with a better tagging system but... I never thought this would all get so big and take off so much. So, yeah, my bad. Too late now.
Please ask if I forgot anything or there’s something specific you are looking for. My ask box is open (not a euphemism) and I check my notifications regularly.
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