Holy shit there is someone saying jace and luke pranked aemond, and aegon was just a bystander, a 16 year old had nothing to do with it as 5 and 6 year olds master minded the prank

They are saying alicent confronted aegon instead of those kids "because she wanted to likes them so bad"

Let's ignore the fact before she confronts aegon, she's calling jace and lukes savages and menaces to viserys and completely leaving out aegon and his involment.

They're saying she's on aegons ass for no reason, when she after saying aegon had nothing to do with it to viserys tells aegon she k own he was the mastermind and he confesses to it too.

Team green fans are either stupid or willfully blind as to how nefarious that lady is and how she's also a bad mother as she allows her own son to bully her other son, as long as he does not do it in front of those boys. She even calls them his "play things" because youd have to be pretty dumb to think those kids have any influence on aegon and not the other way around.

All of this gas lighting just to throw some 5 and 6 year olds under the bus

MY POOR BOY LUCERYS 😭😭😭

“They bullied Aemond!!!!!!”

the bullies in question:

Rhaenyra tracing aemonds line of sight back to lucerys and gets distracted as jace jumps in. Aemond does not give a fuck about anyone else he just wants his hands on lucerys 🤣 nyra has seen this film before

Absolutely love the fact we establish here he does not care he's been hit by jace or even made the toast for rest of the brothers, but did it only to provoke and get near lucerys and the fact nyra notices 🤣 she knows obsession when she sees it

And yes that twitter account is mine

Aemond returning home after killing luceyrs and starting a civil war: I'd like everybody to take a moment and think back to a time when they did something stupid, how they were treated, and how they wished they were treated. Alicent: What the hell did you do?

Aemond:ikilledluke

Alicent: .... what?

Aemond: vhagerateluke

Otto: ....

Alicent:

They said Lucerys fought a dragon like a Targaryen, died at sea like a Velaryon and was brave like a Strong 🥺🥺🥺

#HouseOfTheDragon

I’m going to preface this post by saying I don’t give a flying fuck about the hate I’m going to receive for the opinion I will be sharing and I won’t bother replying to any comments attacking me for it.

I fucking LOVE that Aemond killed Luke and I wish it wasn’t accidental. I wish Luke’s death was full on intentional, lol.

As a victim of bullying, I’ve been in situations where I have had to fend off 20+ kids as a kid myself. I’ve been verbally, physically, emotionally and psychologically assaulted as a child by other children, simply because I wanted, strived for and had good grades in school, actions that did not affect any of my classmates in the slightest. Therefore, I absolutely sympathise with Aemond, whose lack of dragon and later on his acquisition of one hurt no one (dragons belong to no one, you snooze you lose), yet he still got ridiculed and attacked for it. Yes, Aegon was also a bully and I hate him for it, but ultimately he grows out of it and supports his family, unlike the Strong bastards who remain bullies and assaulters. Oh, and Aemond tried to hit Jace with a rock because he attacked him first. Accusing him for standing up for himself is victim blaming. People who defend the Strong boys are bullies and that’s final.

No, I don’t give a rat’s ass that his attackers were children. Aemond was a child, too, and they ganked him 4v1. It’s crazy how some of y’all support physically attacking someone because you don’t agree with them. It was satisfying to see him kick their teeth in. Aemond and Luke are only 2 years apart, even if the actors’ appearances suggest otherwise. Your age does not excuse you being a fucking piece of shit. Children and teenagers appear on the news daily as rapists, killers, assaulters and all kind of criminals. That’s the reason juvie exists. Children should face the consequences of their actions.

“Are you excusing child murder?” if it is by the hand of the child they unapologetically disabled, fuck yeah. Besides, at the end of the day, Aemond dies, too, so you could say justice is served.

Still, I would have given the Strong boy the benefit of the doubt if it weren’t for this scene:

Lucerys is laughing at Aemond.

He is looking him in the eye and he is laughing at him. It’s been 6 fucking years. Lucerys is 17 (confirmed by the writers) and he feels no remorse for what he did. He was not punished for his action, so he has learned nothing.

He feels safe to mock Aemond, in the comfort and safety of his grandfather’s house, where his guard and stepdad can stop Aemond, whom he cannot beat on his own, from bashing his head against the wall. He feels safe to attack Aemond when he calls him Strong, knowing that other people will finish the fight he started but can’t win.

But what happens when no one is around to protect him from the consequences of his own actions? He shits himself. His face falls, he stumbles backwards and does not object to Aemond calling him Strong.

Not laughing now, huh, you little shit stain?

a rumored bastard and a proven, disinherited, legally illegitimate recognized bastard are not the same.

Rhaenyra’s sons are rumored bastards, i know the show has a lot of team green stans feeling bold but just as in the books, they are never legally considered bastards in the show either. they are speculated to be via their physical features and Laenor’s apparent sexuality, but since Laenor and the KING (btw Westeros is a absolute monarchy, meaning the king IS law) both claim all three boys as legitimate heirs, unless someone demands a medieval dna test, those kids are legally Laenor’s true sons.

this is apparently a very hard concept to understand for some, hell even Alicent in the show says something like “we can all tell” which fair point, but that is not proof enough. looks, accusations, and rumor are not the same as actual proof of adultery or bastardy.

someone i was having a “discussion” with used Joffrey as an example to point out a flaw in my logic, but ultimately proved my point. Joffrey was a rumored bastard. Ned himself had no more proof than Alicent does, just hair color and a hunch, so Joffrey was never legally disinherited from the line of succession. I hate to defend either of these men but King Robert never publicly disowned him and called him bastard, which is why Joffrey ascended to the Iron Throne. now the rumors did hurt, and caused huge political issues leading to the War of 5 Kings, which is exactly why Alicent and Team Green is so insistent that Rhaenyra’s children are illegitimate, they know they cannot legally or physically prove her children are bastards, especially when Laenor and the King are claiming them are true born, but they can spread the rumor and call into question Rhaenyra’s honesty and morality. think episode 8 when team green takes their chance with Vaemond to attempt a coup of sorts for the Driftmark Throne, why would the succession of Driftmark need to be settled if Rhaenyra’s sons are true born? why would Alicent / Otto need to make this decision in place of the sick king and mia lord of tides who both had already been stating Luke would inherit for years. it’s all apart of the scheme to tarnish Rhaenyra’s reputation as Vaemond has no other proof either, and promptly loses his head (both metaphorically and literally) by calling the recognized heir to the throne a whore and her children bastards with no proof in front of the whole court.

it is a political scheme on both sides, Alicent cannot prove anything, and Rhaenyra cannot disprove the rumors no matter how many times they are claimed as true born sons. Rhaenyra has to live in the comfort the law gives her, as legally her sons are seen as legitimate, and thus legally they are protected. and from an unbiased pov with both in universe and historical references, those kids might be bastards in actually but not legally.

Rhaenyra goes through hell to keep her children legally protected, not only for their sake but for hers because should the truth come out both her and Laenor would be seriously punished, i wouldn’t go as far as executed but that would depend on if Viserys was old and bed ridden or dead. which is why im making this incredibly long post repeating myself in every point. you can argue all day about Rhaenyra’s children and their parentage but i am making this to make it clear that her children are not *legally* bastards by Westeros law. in order for Jace, Luke, and Joffrey to be illegitimate bastards Laenor, Rhaenyra, Harwin, and/or Viserys would have to publicly acknowledge them as such and disinherit them. no, Laenor and Viserys dying do not magically make Rhaenyra’s children legal bastards either. they would, again, need to be claimed and proven as such and disinherited.

and at the end of it all, true or not true, the rumors made a lasting impact on the story. so much so this fandom is still debating this topic, and frankly i am dreading the season 2 release when all the bad takes and bad faith arguments start up again.

anyway other famous rumored bastards are in Targ history are:

Maegor

Daeron II

🩵🖤

‘Our uncle calls us Strong, and claims we are bastards, but when the lords see us on dragonback they will know that for a lie. Only Targaryen ride dragons.’— Prince Lucerys of house Velaryon ‘Luke’, heir to Driftmark and the driktwood throne, rider of Arrax.

One thing that I’ll be looking forward to seeing is the difference between Lucerys’ funeral and the funeral of the usurper’s son:

The Blacks have a quiet, traditional funeral with grieving family members who mourn the loss of a child they all loved.

The Greens will put on a show of political propaganda, parading the child’s body before the smallfolk with no shame whatsoever, in an attempt to poison their minds against their adversary. That boy was nothing but a pawn to them. A pawn they use even after he’s gone.

Which proves what I’ve been saying all along:

The Blacks are a family.

The Greens are a political alliance, with members who use one another and backstab each other at every turn in the name of power.

Injured mother and son, she's his hero I know it!

Aemond: my uncle is a challenge I welcome. if he dares face me.

lucerys: *haunting him in the afterlife* ARE YOU INSANE! THIS MAN KILLED HIS OWN WIFE FOR NOT BEING MARRIED TO MY MOM! KILLED SOMEONE WHO INSULTED ME AND MY MOM! WHAT CHALLENGE! "IF HE DARES FACE ME!" HE IS GOING TO KILL YOU BC YOU KILLED HIS FAVORITE STEP SON! ARE YOU MAD!

Prince Lucerys Velaryon, heir of the tides

Gentle aemond, mama's boy aemond...until it comes to lucerys then he loses all his control and sense if it means keeping him from getting his hands on lucerys.

Then him having a stare off at lucerys alone even though jace was the one who hit him and was coming at him again 😭🤌

The way they make him so subdued and almost gentle when it's anything else but when it comes to lucerys he loses all his senses. The hatred for maiming aside the absolute obsession he exudes when it comes to lucerys through out episode 8 alone speaks more than hatred, he's been on his mind all this time

Only a man could say something ridiculous like this.

Ryan Condal is so entrenched in the HotD framework of “two women torn apart by the evil men in their lives” that he doesn’t realize that he’s striped said women of everything that makes them human. Their anger, grief, love, ambition? Gone entirely or diluted for the sake of keeping them palatable because the only way a woman can garner sympathy, in Condals perspective, is if she plays the role of the perpetual victim.

God forbid two women hate each other after one spends a whole decade targeting the others children and playing a role in his death.