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bizarrelittlemew · 6 months

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He succeeded 🥹

#ofmd #ofmd s2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #our flag means death #ofmdedit #ofmdsource #ofmd gifs #ida.stuff #ofmd 2x8 #stede bonnet #this gifset made me a lil emotional ngl #it's like mom and dad sending their kids off to college

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breathing-the-same-air · 6 months

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You know what really warms my heart about the innkeepers idea - the softness, the talking, I mean imagine these men finally getting to talk for hours about themselves and their pasts and figure things out together and just lay under the stars next to each other speaking earnestly because they can finally be vulnerable knowing they'll be loved just as they are, and making love softly and without all the despair of the first time, and Ed gets to be all domestic as he always wanted to, and Stede gets to see a face of married life he hasn't seen before, and yes I know if we get a S3 they won't stay innkeepers forever and it's surely gonna be really fun and they'll probably mess up at some point but just for a moment they get to slow down and allow themselves to be soft without having to fight for their lives every other day and I just find this so heartwarming :') they deserve it so much

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axiejade · 6 months

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ed and stede

dark child - marlon williams // our flag means death

#ofmd #our flag means death #gentlebeard #blackbonnet #ofmd s2 #ofmd season 2 #edward teach #stede bonnet #ofmd spoilers #marlon williams #ofmd 2x8 #do you see my vision #i will never emotionally recover from this season #mine

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luciuscodedswedeboy · 6 months

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you know it's bad when dean fucking winchester had a better death than this. the rebar is on the floor

#izzy hands #our flag means death #ofmd #ofmd spoilers #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd 2x8

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livelovecaliforniadreams · 6 months

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#Marriage Foreshadowing

#foreshadowing at its finest #the writers were insane for this #like what?#ofmd #ofmdedit #our flag means death #ed x stede #stede x ed #edward teach #ed teach #stede bonnet #taika waititi #rhys darby #gif #gifs #gifset #2x2 #2x8

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izzyspussy · 5 months

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thing is with the remaining whumptobers is that i either have to rewatch ofmd s02e01-03 or i have to rewatch [indeterminate amount of] TL, so either way i have to rewatch something and that makes it all seem like more work than any of it actually is which makes me not want to do it. :/

#jack facts #writing process #also TL fics get VASTLY more feedback/active engagement than... actually literally any other fandom i've ever been in #so i really WANT to make more stuff for TL but i don't have as many ideas because the source material isn't as compellinggggg #torments and agonies #really i should do a full ofmd rewatch (minus 2x7 and 2x8 lol) before the month is out so i don't have to pay max again #but the literal instant something has even the remotest amount of SHOULD to it....... don wannu :(

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bemusedlybespectacled · 4 months

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Honestly? Not surprised at all about OFMD's cancellation, because if they didn't strongly expect to get cancelled, the finale makes absolutely no sense, particularly in regards to Stede and Ed's relationship and character development. The whole season was rushed, and the finale was especially rushed, because they knew that might be their last chance to wrap up loose ends.

And if they had gotten a third season, they'd have to have either a) negated it so it wasn't a happy ending (thus negating the implication in 2x8 that they have resolved all of their serious relationship and personal issues), or b) gone beyond it, built on it, but then had a SECOND, happier ending? somehow? even though it's pretty clear that retiring together is supposed to be the end goal?

Like, we got the season we got because Jenkins et. al. suspected that they wouldn't have any more time to develop the characters or get to the end goal they'd envisioned. We kind of already got season 3, or like, the speedrun version of it.

Alienating a decent chunk of your fanbase with what I consider a betrayal to the show's core message/established rules and a slap in the face to everyone who praised it for promoting kindness and queer happiness is probably not great for your longevity as a show, either.

#personal #ofmd critical #izzy hands #for obvious reasons #our flag means death

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khruschevshoe · 5 months

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OFMD Critique: Finales, Writing Backwards, and the Importance of Building Relationships

Continuing on the rambling meta bc it turns out there are a couple of people that responded well to my initial thoughts...

Am I the only one that felt like the OFMD Season 2 finale suffered from the exact same problem as the Game of Thrones or the How I Met Your Mother Season finales? Well, not exactly the same, but lemme explain.

The treatment of Izzy Hands in Season 2 of OFMD feels like when they sat down to write this season, they wrote his death scene first (for whatever reasons that might be, though likely for the sake of Ed's arc- we're not going to address my feelings on THAT rn), THEN backfilled his arc for the rest of the season based on that, but then didn't rewrite his death scene to address the stuff that organically happened when writing the rest of the season.

Like, for example, I've seen plenty of people point out that the deathbed apology from Izzy to Ed doesn't really work (I fed your darkness) both in regards to the sheer imbalance of damage shown onscreen between Ed and Izzy, but also doesn't work as a "putting Blackbeard behind us" scene when Izzy figuratively (and literally, if you count him as part of the group with the cannonball) killed his half of Blackbeard in the storm scene in 2x2, with whatever parts lingering in him killed with the unicorn scene in 2x4. After this point, his arc and his focus has very, very little to do with Blackbeard or hell, Ed in general besides the couple of comments made to Ed and Stede that cement that Izzy is happy that Ed moved on and found someone that makes him happy.

Izzy's arc has left Blackbeard behind already. He has already hit the emotional beat that the finale wants to retread.

And then the other part of his deathbed comments to Ed- "the crew loves you, Ed"- makes no sense from the Ed side of things. The show built up an arc for Izzy that would make people care when he died, but that arc was literally about the crew literally putting aside their differences/fear/distrust of each other to help, support, and accept Izzy as their figurehead, their protector, their friend, their recovery, their family, their (insert positive symbolism/metaphor for all of the VARIOUS implied flirtations here).

What did they have with Ed? Other than his moments with Stede and Fang, what relationships were built up before Izzy's death? Calypso's birthday included no scenes of the crew interacting with Ed other than the short Archie/Ed/Stede convo at the beginning. We get none of him talking to them when prepping for the party. He spends 2x7 and 2x8 with Stede, only having scenes with Stede, never building anything with the crew.

THE LAST SUBSTANTIAL INTERACTION ED HAS WITH THE CREW BEFORE IZZY DIES IS THE "INFLUENCER APOLOGY" IN 2X5 (other than with Fang in the boat). Holy shit, I didn't even realize that until I got to this point in the meta. I had realized that something felt wrong/off about the "the crew loves you line," but I thought that it was because 2x1-2x3 cast such a long shadow on the rest of the season that it was impossible to escape. No, there were cracks in the back half of the season as well.

All of which is to say: if you have to kill Izzy (which you really, really don't, btw, it makes little sense in a show where pretty much every character has survived a near death experience with nary a scratch, but for the sake of hypothetical), there is a way you can pull it off: you have the crew at Izzy's side as he dies instead of Ed. You have their relationship with Izzy at the forefront, because their relationship is the one that matters at this point in the narrative. You have Izzy die trying to save one of them, not by random gunshot.

And then after Izzy dies, you finally give the crew their agency back. You let Izzy's death be the last straw in THEIR arcs. You let them tell Ed that they cannot allow him to stay on the ship after everything. You let them tell him that they are putting their foot down, and he can go retire if he wants, but they will not let him destroy this crew anymore.

(Or, you know, you can have all of that with a death SCARE instead of an actual death, and allow Izzy to sail off into the sunset as a first mate instead of as a dead body. Because that would suit the tone of the show and the story better.)

But I have the feeling that point B (Izzy dying/his death scene) was the thing that was decided on first, and so the budget crunch/other factors may have led the writers into making the same mistake as so many before them have: writing point A out organically, and then failing to change Point B when it no longer fit the story they had written.

#izzy hands #ofmd critical #2x08 mermen #ofmd 2x08 #ed teach critical #meta #fix it #kind of #analysis #i know I'm rambling #calypsos birthday #we really ahould have taken the “red flags” episode title more seriously #ofmd meta

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amuseoffyre · 6 months

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OFMD Parallels - 2x02, 2x04, 2x8

I do not believe in coincidences or accidental framing with dialogue.

#ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd parallels

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iamadequate1717 · 6 months

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OFMD S3 (Manifesting!)

I think we've all seen Casey Bloys' comments on an OFMD S3:

“What’s a little bit different in a linear world than here is… how a show performs over a longer period of time than three weeks or something,” Bloys stated. “So we’re figuring out how it’s doing, what it’s looking like.”

My reaction:

Really, HBO? HBO, after running one of the worst, most spoilery, most front loaded marketing campaigns I have ever seen, wants to talk about the long term?

The question that was driving everyone feral for an S2 was, will Stede and Ed find each other again? HBO/MAX put their first face-to-face meeting in the trailer. Why watch the show when the marketing will just toss a greatest hits reel out to the public before the episode even releases?

The showstopping set piece of 2x3 (MerStede rescuing Ed) was spoiled in their "marketing" since they released the concept art for MerStede days before the episode aired in a BTS video.

Let's look at the finale:

The beach kisses and the inn were spoiled in BTS videos released days before the episode was released after putting a week between 2x7 and 2x8 releases. Yeah, yeah, they didn't show the kisses exactly, but what else would that pose be for? It really enforced that 2x7 and 2x8 should have been released together, but HBO/MAX choose to create a cliffhanger while immediately posting the resolution in their marketing

Ed thinking Stede was dead was spoiled by the episode promo

Ed and Stede running toward one another on the beach was spoiled by the trailer. (It didn't show them in frame together, but it was obviously the same location and the direction they were going in matched.)

Ed reading one of Stede's letters was spoiled by marketing a few days before the finale release for no discernable reason

Izzy's climatic speech to Ricky (and that he was saying it to Ricky!) was spoiled in the trailer. It could have been a good hype VO, and they didn't need to spoil whom Izzy was talking to

The crew in the British garb and taking out soldiers was in the trailer. This plot begins nine minutes before the credits start.

The Revenge Crew working with Spanish Jackie and Zheng at some point was well spoiled beforehand in their BTS promo material. Zheng saying they should team up is three minutes before the credits start.

(Has anyone seen this amount of BTS material of episodes, including the season climax, released before an episode releases instead of after? Just holding this BTS material until after seems like a no-brainer to extending a show's interest after the finale is released.)

The reason the pacing felt super "off" on your first watch is because HBO/MAX already released a bulleted run through of the episode beforehand, and you were mentally ticking it off as you went instead of watching it organically. Watching it a second time really improves the flow of the episode.

This is a show whose popularity was raised created entirely through word-of-mouth excitement. The greediness of these streaming companies is why we couldn't have the actors doing promo, but then they took away the show's next most powerful tool, the word-of-mouth discussion, by releasing large swathes of the climax of the season before it aired, and the social media hype and discussion was front loaded to before release instead of after.

S3 was set up to show Ed and Stede as a solid couple and to show the pirate community against the British, and the season climax of these two points was released by HBO/MAX before the episode, and it was excitedly discussed then. Now, a week after release, we're stuck in some horrible gravy basket of discussing the part of the last five-ten minutes that HBO/MAX didn't outright spoil (though they tried their hardest with the grave promo stills and Ed's bloody hand in the promo!): Izzy's death. No one is having fun!

There is a lot of story setup for an S3 but DJenks and company had to set up a season that could double as a series finale in a pinch, so we also lost the "What happens next??" fervor because HBO/MAX wouldn't greenlight two seasons at once of their biggest new IP of 2022. The bizarre marketing strategy didn't lend itself to a long term success, and it's up to the fans once again to do HBO/MAX's job for them.

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd s2 #ofmd 2x08 #hbo max #ofmd s3 #renew as a crew #talk it through as a crew #ofmd meta #renewal gravy basket #ranty rant rant #ofmd s2 spoilers #is it worth tagging s2 spoilers anymore?

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bizarrelittlemew · 6 months

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Our Flag Means Death 1x9 | 2x8 ⇉ Go Frenchie!!

#he is so cute #ofmd #ofmd s2 #ofmd s2 spoilers #our flag means death #ofmdedit #ofmdsource #ofmd gifs #ida.stuff #frenchie #ofmd 2x8

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iamadequate1 · 2 months

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Unpopular Opinions on 2x6!

I was in and out of WJW yesterday, but was it said who (Max or DJenks) initiated the 2x6 rewrite? I know Max is to blame for the truncated episode count and episode length, but the makeover-pressure storyline of the original 2x6 maybe just was not working and they decided to correct?

We don't know exactly what "makeover" entailed, but Ed already found Stede attractive under any circumstance (the hanged and sickly look of 1x4, still trying to kiss him after seeing him in that ugly af wig for most of 1x5, that adventurer outfit in 1x7 that did no favor for his legs, etc.) and Stede was already confident enough to try for sex in 2x5. I'm not sure what would have been the point of a Stede makeover, whether it was to make him more "manly" or more "fancy" or more "pretty and gnc" or more whatever was going to be used. The thing that was holding Ed back was wanting to be careful and fear of being hurt again; a Stede makeover wouldn't have helped that, and the crew intervening would have done more harm than good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Really, the only thing Ed/Stede-wise I'm missing in 2x6 is some degree of sexual tension and a slow dance, dammit. Oh, and really more segue scene in going from on deck, to below deck, to on deck with Ned Low. That was weird.

But, here's the thing: Stede is underdeveloped in S2 compared to Ed. I wrote this thing between the releases of 2x7 and 2x8, and this is the biggest failure that Max gave OFMD in this time truncation. (And the biggest failure from DJenks + company in response is spending so much of the premium screen time on Izzy instead of killing him off early, but I digress...)

This is what I ended that post on, and I stand by it:

I think it should be noted that as of the end of 2x7, Stede is the only crew member who hasn't had mental reflection and/or therapy in Season 2. He realized Mary, Alma, and Louis didn't need him and he was in love with Ed in 1x10, but the voice calling him a child with a toy, an idiot, weak, and ugly is still there.

This is why we need an S3!!!

So, on the lost makeover scene, Stede is the only character that has explicitly had body image issues (from what I remember...), so I really could do without a makeover scene, especially with Stede getting dumped the next episode just a few hours after sleeping with Ed the first time. If Ed had given given him cute reassurances that no makeover was necessary, the dumping would have been even worse! If the crew had pressured the sex in any way, that dumping would have been EXTRA even worse!

I think the makeover/cupid stuff was best left out of canon. I'm sure it would work in a fanfic, but in the placement of the canon story, I don't think it belonged. We REALLY needed more time between "take it slow" and The Banginging (just like we needed more time in the cocaptains era), but 8 episodes, I enjoy the beat breakdowns they chose in the time they were allotted,

Getting more into unpopular opinion territory: I don't care in the slightest that polycule scenes were cut since that storyline is so incredibly uninteresting to me; I don't mind it, but I just don't miss it when it's not around. We don't know who made the call on cutting the polycule scene(s), but IMO, gay Die Hard with Lupete was way better than anything the polycule could have done. And moving the Lupete wedding to the end made the season end on a higher and more hopeful note.

#our flag means death #ofmd #ofmd meta #stede bonnet #loml #izzy critical #i love lupete most of all #ofmd s2e6

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follows-the-bees · 2 months

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I ended up writing a ton more OFMD meta posts than I thought. And for the sake of my own sanity, I made a master post of all of them.

Filmmaking Meta

How cinematography, blocking, and camerawork in S2 eps 6&7 show Ed's and Stede's emotions

Sound design in 2x3 MerStede scene

Full filmmaking breakdown of 2x3 MerStede scene

Scene that captures the thesis of the show

Filmmaking, camerawork, framing, in 2x1

Breakdown of love "confession" scene in 2x4

Progression of the candle light getting closer to Ed in 2x4

The contrast of sounds used in the bathtub scene

The use of greenery in negative space in 1x7: This Is Happening (Part One of Negative Space Series)

How center-framed shots of Ed's back show his emotional state and isolation (Part Two of Negative Space Series)

How negative space shows Ed a hopeful future (Part 2.5 of Negative Space Series)

Negative space shows Ed's isolation after shuffling on the Blackbeard/Kraken role. (Part 2.5.5 of Negative Space Series)

The camerawork, cinematography, and blocking during Blackbeard and Frenchie's "impossible bird" conversation at the end of 2x1.

How the camerawork used in 2x2 Red Flags shows the power dynamic and tension between Blackbeard and Frenchie.

The contrast of having these two shots (2x1 and 2x5) set in the exact same place.

Wild West/Western theme used with the original Blackbeard crew

Wild West theme coming back when Ed is The Kraken

More Western tropes that I found

Buttons as a conduit of death/purgatory

Ed and Stede jumping into the water for each other

2x3 and 2x8 Ed and water parallels

Light motifs show hope and love

Green lighting used in 1x6

Ed and Stede wedding cake toppers

Light motif during the lighthouse scene in 1x4

Mirror shots

Izzy's lighting in jail

1x8 and 1x10 depression era robe

Fanfiction Meta

Stede's costume color in S2

Face touching and Ed's outfits meaning

Character Meta

Ed hiding his heart: the silk and cake topper

The crew voting to let Ed back on the Revenge

Stede heals the tattoos Ed puts on his body to get over/integrate his fears/image

Jim's transformation in Calypso's Birthday

Archie's role in the narrative

Ed not really wanting to die in the grav(e)y basket

Stede touches Ed's elbow and back of head cause he knows it's safe

Ed touching Stede's chest

Frenchie's and Ed's instant friendship

Ed and Frenchie have similar coping mechanisms

Discomfort in a Married State

Doggy Heaven line

Izzy taking the blame for the painting

Ed hiding his heart (silk, wedding cake toppers)

Stede character study

Stede Bunnet Symbolism

Choice of saying us not me

Ed's trauma response

Stede going quiet when grieving

Non-Meta

Stede is a cutie patootie

Ed's introduction

Comedic actors can't pull off drama

Small moments in PB scene

Jim as Peter Pan

Edward Teach, born on a beach

Song Lyrics

All Shades of Blue

The Stable Song

Dark, Dark, Dark

Southern Star

Second Chances

Swallowed in the Sea

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd s2 #ofmd season 2 #masterpost #ofmd meta #meta analysis #cinematography #ofmd stede bonnet #ed teach #izzy hands meta

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knitnightstudio · 6 months

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OFMD Ed's Emerald Ring

I'm rewriting this slightly for clarity, to fix an error, and to add a little.

The Emerald ring Ed wears in season 2 of OFMD is Stede's ring.

The emerald ring is too big for Ed. Stede's rings are canonically too big for Ed. In 1x4 when they change clothes, Stede's rings on Ed's hands are lopsided the entire time. The Emerald ring is also lopsided nearly the entire time. There is NO reason for Gypsy Taylor to make Taika Waititi wear a ring that doesn't fit unless there was a specific reason that it needed to be too big.

If the ring was part of his plunder Ed would have gotten rid of it in 2x6 when he called his plunder posion. He got rid of everything except the emerald ring, why? Because it isn't tied to pirating

When Ed drops his leathers overboard in 2x7 he still keeps the emerald ring. If the ring had some attachment to the leathers he would have sunk it with the rest of his stuff.

The ring is Stede's color. Stede spends a majority of his time in green/sea green clothing, Stede's main ring is sea green. The captain's cabin has a lot of green elements. Nearly every outfit he wears has at least a trace of green in it, even before he leaves his wife.

Ed has a history of keeping stuff that signifies Stede close to him. We see this when he wears Stede's black scarf for most of season 1 and puts it back on right before he sails into the storm in season 2.

The only reason for Ed to keep a piece of jewelry THAT DOESN'T FIT is if the meaning was divorced from piracy and special to him, and the only thing in his life that comes close to that is Stede.

At this point I am assuming you're with me, the ring was Stede's ring. Assuming this is true, then:

Either Stede gave Ed the ring sometime in season 1 but he never wore it until season 2, or Ed found it when he was ransacking the ship after Stede left him and decided to keep it. Either way, It's Stede's ring.

You can't see Stede's tie in season 2 until Ed drives the ship into the storm, so sometime between when he leaves Izzy with the gun, and when he tells Frenchie to let him steer the ship he put the scarf back on. After he and Stede are reunited we don't see the scarf again. Why? I think it's because the crew knew that the scarf belonged to Stede. If Ed had worn it prior to driving into the storm the crew would have definitively known that sweet Ed was still in there. Clearly they knew why Ed was behaving in the way that he was, but I think Ed probably thought he wasn't being so obvious. He could wear the ring though, and keep Stede close to him because nobody had seen it before and the crew would just assume it was from a plunder, not as a reminder of Stede.

Ed keeps the bride and groom figures from the wedding and draws on the bride to look like himself. The black all over the bride and groom is either from the makeup he's been putting on his face, or from him mushing the dolls together, or both. Either way, he doesn't want the crew to know he is holding on to them. Since they don't know the ring belongs to Stede Ed can keep this reminder of Stede with him at all times without anyone else knowing.

Once Stede and Ed are reunited Ed doesn't need the scarf anymore. It's too reminiscent of the life he wanted to leave, but the ring symbolizes Stede without the pirate baggage, so the scarf goes and the ring stays.

Ed wears fine things well and an emerald ring is certainly a fine thing

Even when he is dressed down in 2x8 he keeps the ring. We've seen Ed without his leathers AND dressed in comfy clothes 3 times. In 1x9 when Ed and Stede kiss for the first time, 2x5 when he goes fishing with Fang, and 2x7/2x8 when he is either in the bathrobe or Button's clothes before he puts the leathers back on. The first 2 times Ed doesn't wear any jewlery. The third time though, after Ed and Stede have sex and breakfast in bed and brunch together he keeps the emerald with him.

Ed wears the ring on his left ring finger, which is traditionally where you would wear an engagement or wedding ring.

Conclusion: Our pretty princess loves Stede so fucking much and these two boys are gonna talk it out and work everything out because regardless of what they say they're obsessed with each other in the best way.

#lgbtlove #lgbtq positivity #lgbt pride #ofmd #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd s2 #ofmd spoilers #ofmd season 2 #ed x stede #edward x stede #blackbeard x stede #ofmd stede

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livelovecaliforniadreams · 6 months

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1x8 | 2x8

#ofmd #ofmdedit #our flag means death #ed x stede #stede x ed #ed teach #edward teach #stede bonnet #love #gif #gifs #gifset #1x8 #2x8 #taika waititi #rhys darby

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dftea · 6 months

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With the *everything* that's going on in OFMD 2x8, I almost forgot the thing that got right under my skin.

It was Ed trying to make friends with people who didn't understand him, missing social cues and receiving violence, being simultaneously Too Much and Not Enough.

It was the most uncomfortable and horrified I had been watching the series, including the parts that include literal torture.

OFMD gets a lot of (rightful) praise for queer rep, but its ND rep is also so on point.

#ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd s2 spoilers #ofmd season 2 spoilers #our flag means death season 2 spoilers #ofmd spoilers #edward teach is neurodiverse #ofmd queer and nd support group ftw #nd #neurodiverse #neurodivergent actors playing neurodivergent characters

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