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unhonestlymirror · 3 months
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Putin told his version of the history of the GDL and said that Zelensky's father fought against fascism, although he was born after the war
In an interview with American journalist Tucker Carlson, russian president Vladimir Putin said that he considers the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to be a russian state, as "russians made up a significant part of this state." According to him, after the unification of the Grand Duchy and the Kingdom of Poland, the Poles began to annex the lands of modern Ukraine.
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Laughing my ass off. Grand Duchy of Lithuania consisted mostly of Lithuanians. Lithuanians back then were: Lietuviai, Lićviny, Samogitians, and Ruthenians (people of Kyivan Rus'). Well, and a bit of Tatars. Lietuviai are modern Lithuanians, Lićviny are modern Belaruthians, Ruthenians (rusy) are modern Ukrainians. And Ruthenians made about 1/3 of GDL, not "most of them". There were no russians in Grand Duchy of Lithuania because russians were called muscovites back then, who eventually occupied Belaruthian Smalensk. Vytautas tried to make a friend out of moscow Duchy, but since russia has always been sick in the head, he didn't succeed, sadly.
And GDL wasn't also called "Lithuanian-russian". It was called "Lithuanian-Ruthenian-Samogitian" because Ukrainians are pretty independent.
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roran01 · 4 months
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Anyways have some concept art of ancients in the new style
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Personally I like how Rome come out
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Silver armlet, Kievan Rus, 12th century AD
from The British Museum
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mapsontheweb · 5 months
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Kievan Rus', 10-11th century.
by LegendesCarto
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ch3ri-ch3ri-lady · 10 months
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little baby andrei c. late 15th century ukraine 😔 before the horrors
eastern european mediaeval history is acc fascinating and soooo underrated and somehow anne got everything wrong ☠️
underrated era for him. look at his little hat!
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nickysfacts · 6 months
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Russia traditionally was a very accepting place for LGBT individuals!
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vahvah · 6 months
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Bros, the ideas that circulate in canon and fanon around eastslavic siblings really seem strange to me.
It is strange to expect a japanese man to be well versed in the intricacies of eastern european history of the early and high Middle Ages, but to expect this from an english-speaking fandom (mostly northamerican, let's face it) is also, it seems to me, pointless.
Let me explain. "Kievan Rus" is an artificial construct adopted from russian imperial/soviet historians. Moreover, it’s not just a matter of the name, as, you know, the late Rhomean Republic is called the “Byzantine Empire”, it’s just that there was LITERALLY no such state as “Kievan Rus”. In the space approximately from the Baltic and White to the Black Seas, there were numerous proto-urban and urban settlements of slavic, finno-ugric and baltic (as well as other) tribes, which entered into alliances with each other, sometimes quite strong, but still remained isolated. Of course, it would be disingenuous to say that since the beginning of time the urban educated population did not develop some kind of common identity… for some time.
But if we talk about actually existing cultural regions, determined by geography and economics, then, in fact, it is worth highlighting Northern (Novgorod) Rus' and Southern (Kievan Rus' itself), in a very simplified scheme. One of them was tied to the countries around the Baltic Sea, like the scandinavians, the baltic tribes and northgerman cities, as well as the slavs of modern East Germany. The other constantly encountered nomads, “Byzantine Empire" and, to a lesser extent, the western and southern Slavs (and magyars!). They were never able to truly become a unified state.
Of course, this is a simplification, because in addition to the Rurikids in the North, who subjugated the South and over time moved there (while the south over time began to separate itself, in particular, into the Novgorod Republic), there was a separate center in Polotsk and some others, but it approximately reflects the essence and, if I were asked about personifications, then I would make two separate MAIN personifications for Rus', Novgorod in the North (male) and Kiev in the South (female), which would be the parents of the future Ukraine, Russia and Belarus.
But if you asked me in even more detail, then Belarus should stand a little aside. You know, in fact, historically it is more archaic and “stagnant” than Ukraine in the south and Russia in the northeast. Did you know that lithuanians called belarusians an ethnonym derived from the name goths lol? Plus, genetically and partly culturally, belarusians, like some poles, are closer to the baltic peoples, and not to the rest of the slavs. Taking into account the independent center of statehood in Polotsk, independent of the Rurikids, I would say that Belarus DEFINITELY must be older than Russia (which in the strict sense could only have been born as the Vladimir-Suzdal Principality/North-Eastern Rus' with more ancient names, let’s not clutter the text ) and POSSIBLY older than Ukraine. Perhaps she is an adopted child.
Of course, in reality we have many problems in studying the region for objective reasons, such as a lack of written sources, but… I still love Eastern Europe, these are my roots, after all. And it's really interesting.
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ancientorigins · 5 days
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Bilhorod Kyivskyi was a city-fortress that stood tall against the tides of history. From its humble origins to its position as a seat of royalty, it embodies the resilience of the Ukrainian people.
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carigradmergen · 5 months
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I've been working on a romance comics about a Kipchak warrior and a Kievan Rus princess, and it's as tacky as it sounds like
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Belarus: I'm going to get myself some soup
Ukraine: Be careful not to burn yourself, it's hot.
Belarus: I won't burn myself.
~30 seconds later~
Belarus, entering the room: I burned myself.
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thorsvinur · 1 year
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Two of my living history kits, or two versions of one kit, finally coming together. This is my high status kit focusing on Kievan Rus in the later 10th to early 11th century. The territory of Kievan Rus encompassed the areas of modern day Ukraine, Belarus and western Russia; and the society was culturally a mix of Slavic and eastern Scandinavian peoples with notable Byzantine influences on the upper social strata.
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(The fourth photo featuring my impression of one of the carved faces on the Oseberg cart) 😅
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aphyapple9000 · 9 months
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softquietsteadylove · 9 months
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Hello beautiful! ✨🖤
I have an idea for a new AU with Thena and Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh starts at an elite culinary school where the food in each lesson is judged by strict critics.
The students in the higher classes warn the new ones that one specific critic (Thena) can never be satisfied and never gives a good review. Many students have dropped out of school because of this. But Gilgamesh wants to see for himself.
🖤✨ Hgs and Love! ✨🖤
"I heard she made everyone in her class cry in their first lesson."
"I heard that she subs in for real food critics sometimes."
"I heard that the dean himself gave her a full-ride scholarship she's so good."
Gil rolls his eyes at the classmates of his whispering - loudly - about their expected panel of judges. He doesn't think this critic can possibly be as frightening as people are making her out to be. She's just a student, like them, right?
"Can't they just put us out of our misery?" Druig grumbles next to him, shifting nervously on his feet as he looks down at his dish.
"Hey," Gil nudges his shorter, more nervous friend, "don't look so freaked out. "It's a great dish."
Druig sighs, "thanks, man. But it's not you I gotta impress, is it? It's 'em."
The door opens and three senior students step into the room.
Sersi is the top student in the Molecular Gastronomy course. She makes creations that seem transmuted right down to the atomic level, it seems sometimes. They look stunning, they're always delicious, and the way she can make one thing taste entirely different from how it looks is always a showstopper.
Phastos all but wrote the bible by which the school acts. He doesn't cook, but his knowledge of biology, chemistry, physics--is so all-encompassing that there's basically nothing he doesn't know. It is just a rumour, but supposedly he has written all the recipes the courses use for instructing students since he arrived.
Thena is last, and by far the scariest. She looks like she's never seen the sun or eaten a morsel of food, at that. Her reputation precedes her, and her perfect palette is as terrifying as it is rare. She doesn't cook either, but if there is any sort of flaw in any way, she will detect it. And she won't have the smile on her face that Sersi does when she breaks the news.
Thena stands between the other two, eyeing the class with an expression that already screams that she's not looking forward to this. "Please present your dishes."
The first two come up, their trays rattling from their nerves.
Gil watches from his table a little further in the back. Sersi and Phastos try first, giving their praise as well as gentle critiques and advice. Once Thena is done sniffing it, she takes a bite.
"You lack identity."
The whole class practically keels over. It may seem small, and maybe even nitpicky. But to hear that you - as a chef - have no identity in your food?--it's devastating.
"I would say you lack creativity, but that is not what this is," she states and sets her spoon down after the one bite. "You have replicated a family recipe in the hopes that it would convey an emotion. But the balance has been put off by your muddled intentions. It's over-seasoned, and the flavours battling for dominance has overpowered what would actually make it shine if you weren't so clumsy."
The class is practically crying for their fallen comrade. And this is round one!
Druig blows out a breath as they watch their fellow student shuffle back to his table in shame (borderline in tears). "And the Ice Queen strikes again."
Gil stares straight ahead. He shrugs, "she did give him advice, though."
Druig looks at him with wide eyes. "If I shove you into a lion's den and tell you not to die, that's advice, I s'pose."
Gil chuckles just a little, still watching eagerly, "shut up."
The critique goes on, many falling to the Ice Queen's sharp words along the way. It's not that she has nothing nice to say at all, it's just that the bad seems to always outweigh the good for her.
Sersi and Phastos offer sympathetic smiles and waves; obviously they're used to this.
"Next."
Gil and Druig approach with their trays, a plate for each judge. Druig goes first.
He clears his throat, "I-I've made a confit salmon with swiss chard gelee and potato mousseline."
Sersi smiles brightly at them, showing off what's made her such a darling of the culinary world already. "That's very impressive, Druig!"
"A lot of technique," Phastos murmurs as he takes a bite. "The textures are right, although it's maybe a little soft overall."
Druig nods, taking the criticism at face value, "thank you."
"You have too much to prove."
Gil keeps a careful eye on his tablemate. Druig is stubborn, and younger than the rest of them. She's right, she just doesn't have to say it like that.
Druig stands tall against it, though. He looks the Ice Queen in the eye as he says, "and?"
Thena raises her eyes to him. Gil sees that they're green for the first time. "You've selected the most advanced techniques you've mastered thus far, but as Phastos said, there is no cohesion to the presentation of all of them in one dish. You didn't have to make a mousse of the potatoes--in fact, potatoes are not what I would have served with salmon in the first place."
Druig crosses his arms.
"The salmon is cooked perfectly," Thena says just as cut and dry as the negative stuff. She places her fork down, again, needing only one bite of each element to make her assessment. "It only brings out that, had you leaned into your strengths instead of showcasing your weaknesses, this could be perfect."
Druig has his arguing face on, and Gil almost wonders if he should drag him back from the judging table to cool off. He rolls his eyes, though, going back into his dismissive and pouty shell for the time being. He huffs, "I'll take it."
Gil is left alone as Druig moves back to the table.
Sersi smiles, "and what have you made today?"
"Chicken and dumplings!"
A poor man's dish. Chicken stew with dumplings in it: something that needs no technique to put forth. The whole room is silent, not even trying to hide the overall horror that has descended over them.
Even Sersi strains a little to smile at him as they pull their bowls closer. "How...interesting."
"I know, I know," Gil laughs, watching as Thena draws her spoon up to smell everything. "Just hear me out."
"I made a really quick chicken stock and let it simmer while I was preparing everything else. I made it more ramen style than country chicken soup style, but I also added some cinnamon and star anise to kind of have an element of what makes pho so comforting."
"Then while that was simmering I was roasting some veg with the other half of the carcass. I mashed up and then pan fried some potatoes and there's actually a little something in those dumplings."
"Well, that certainly sounds..." Sersi trails off, looking to her left as she holds a dumpling in hand, "impressive."
Thena is smiling.
She licks her lips as she puts her spoon down, still smiling at the shimmering bowl of broth. She picks up a dumpling and her eyes spark.
"You already know, don't you?" Gil smiles sheepishly. She looks at him as she takes a bite, pulling out the cheese he put in the centre. He snickers at the look on her face. "I made a simple mash and then turned it in to a dough with some flour and a little duck egg for some bite to it. Then I added a little more potato with some butter and the little piece of cheese curd for some chew. Like a-"
"Pierogi."
Phastos pushes his glasses up his nose as Thena utters something that isn't a direct review of the food.
Gil beams, his whole chest swelling with warmth from the inside out. "You order them for lunch all the time, right? You must have made them when you were little."
Thena smiles, taking a second bite of the fried mashed potatoes and their filling. "I did."
Gil celebrates to himself a little, clenching his fist. He looks over his shoulder and gives Druig a big thumb's up.
Thena takes another bite of the soup, too, her lashes fluttering as she savours the small but deliberate spoonful. "Hm."
Gil inches forward.
"It's not...perfect."
The class lets out a collective sigh.
"But," Thena is still smiling, taking a third bite. "I think it's about as close as I've ever had."
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mapsontheweb · 1 year
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Kievan Rus' at the beginning of the 10th century
by @LegendesCarto
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stake-bait · 7 months
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KIEVAN RUS GAME? tell me more!! (my main vtm pc’s childe is rurik the varangian)
Firstly very impressive linage on your PC holy shit.
Secondly oh boy, I'll try to summerize
I did a sort of alternate history game in 980 AD in the wake of the mass conversion at Kiev and the christianization of the Kievan Rus as a whole, though with a lot more pagan holdouts in the north. The proto sabbat prince in this game wanted to bring more of a unified religion "the church of Cain" to the local vampire population to encourage a unique vampire culture and build a strong political base, and was using her status as holder of (future saint) Olga of Kiev's (a vamp in this game) coffin to do so. Our coterie, a retired varangian werewolf hunter turned beet farmer gangrel Halvar, our constantly lying, single adoptive father to a human child christan monk Casimir, and rusalka cosplaying local cryptid nosfertu Lavinia, were not big fans of this, due to personal political and religious differences.
The game centered around them going on a mission as assigned by said prince to find her runaway childer, while secretly gathering an army of vampiric (and surprisingly a few lupine) political dissidents to go fight her, while also dealing with a cell of hunters dedicated to rescuing ghouls and turning them back to humans who were obsessed with finding a cure for vampirism. The group defeated the most troublesome of the hunters and prince and murdered A LOT of the local vampire governance to the point where two of them (along with a fuckload of allies) actually took over themselves, and one of them fucked off to the woods to try to further study a cure. There was a glorious scene of setting the palace on fire on Christmas morning as the game ended.
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eruverse · 1 year
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It is so over
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