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abittersweetraisin · 10 months

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The final day. The many questions.

The season finale,… I had only came across one leak (about Lila), other than that I didn’t know what to expect. I wasn’t very hopeful, but I did had expected some minimum things and they just didn’t happen. No reveal, at least not the Ladybug-ChatNoir one. No Adrien finding out about his father,… And didn’t Astruc say that by season 5 everyone was gonna know one another’s identities?

Anyway,… i’ll go into more detail below the break. I’ll be as brief as possible on the things that I’ve seen the fandom has already talked about.

“[…] instead that he remembers the times I tried to be a good father.” Seriously?? Were the writers trying to make a joke here? Someone needs to go tell Rapunzel to not remember Mother Gothel for the years she had her imprisoned but for the food and paint that she provided her. 🙈

The wish… The wish that has the fandom talking.

At first I had thought his wish was something like “I wish for the perfect world that I have in mind”. But then the “What do you sacrifice?” part would make no sense. His soul in exchange for a perfect world? Yeah right, because a man that has done the things that he has must have a soul that is worth gold for the universe. I think that perfect world thing was put there to distract us from what really happened.

I read someone saying how the wish didn’t make sense because if Emilie hadn’t come across the peacock miraculous or a damaged peacock miraculous then nothing would have happened. No Hawk Moth, no need for Master Fu to hand the miraculous, etc. I agree. But I don’t think his wish was to change the past. It only changed the present. Everyone still remembered the alliance rings and… everything. Nothing really changed about their past.

The thing is that his wish apparently did at least two things: heal Nathalie and bring Emilie back to life. I say ‘apparently’ because the writers love to be playful and contradict the things they once wrote for previous episodes. That could be Amelie and not Emilie. Yes, definitely. It could be. But then why make Emilie and Gabriel fly together and glow like that? Red herring? Could be, but it would be too much, wouldn’t it?

My second thought was that Gabriel didn’t really die. He said how he didn’t want to let her go. The man’s not sane, so, could it be that he asked for his soul to inhabit his wife’s body? I mean, Emilie was already dead. She was a corpse forced into staying ‘alive’ because of the coffin thing he had put her in. And he was someone whose soul was still here, but his body was disintegrating. So, each had a half. But then I remembered Nathalie. If Gabriel went into Emilie’s body, then how is it that Nathalie healed? Then I remembered an episode from Once Upon a Time where one heart was used to keep two people alive. I know, that’s a different show, but as I have said before, the writers have “borrowed” things from other shows before. And wasn’t that Gimmi kwami made out of Tikki and Plagg?

Could it be that his wish was for Adrien to have two parents or something on that line? I would like to think that they didn’t make the wish scene so vague just for nothing.

Personally I didn’t like the “true form” of Plagg and Tikki. Instead of magical beings they looked like aliens from outer space. Also, I prefer the idea of a small kwami holding so much power. That could had been used as a way of saying “don’t judge by appearances”.

Gabriel... I knew they were going to give Gabriel a “redemption”.

It can’t be compared what Gabriel has done to what Chloè has done, yet, they made him look good. Sentimental background music and all. It’s ridiculous. And what I find most… let’s say ‘interesting’, is how there’s a portion of the fandom that seems to really have forgiven Gabriel. “Poor him, he sacrificed his own life for his wife and son”. I can’t. My head can’t process that. And I have a hunch that if something like that had been written for Chloè, the fandom wouldn’t had been as forgiving with her.

I’m waiting to see how they’re going to redeem Lila. I find annoying this new Lila super spy, expert in electronics and disguise.

The Bug Noir costume… I had expected something different. The combination of these two miraculous is the key to make a wish. So, the transformation alone, I would had expected it to be something more dramatic and the costume to be way more than just a mash up of the two costumes. I read someone saying she looked like a goddess. Ok,… The dots on her eyes were too much in my opinion. And excuse me, but for showing how her outfit looked did they really had to use those points of view??? There was a moment where the “camera” was focused on her bottom. Come on! Don’t do that.

And what about Gabriel being able to use the venom power without being transformed?! Where did that come from? Did I miss an episode where they talked about this? For how long has he known he could do that? If the writers are going to bend the rules like that then Gabriel is the worst villain ever! I mean, he only needed three people to have succeeded in getting the miraculous. No need to do any of what happened in this finale. Use one akuma to create a villain. Brainwash that person into pretending to want to kidnap himself and Tomoe. When Ladybug and Chat Noir show up to help Tomoe and Gabriel use the venom power to paralyze them and take the miraculous.

It is ‘curious’ how the power of the miraculous could be shared to so many people. I would had thought there would be a limit or that at least the effect would be less powerful since it was being spread worldwide, but nop. And did he really transferred the powers of all the kwamis to all that people? I mean, back in the first episode Gabriel couldn’t bear all that power. What changed? Because it was channeled through the ring? Sorry, but that for me is another example of lazy writing.

They wanted to have someone using the Ladybug and the Cat miraculous at the same time, ok. But couldn’t they have come up with a different way to do that? Adrien was completely taken out of the battle!

I don’t like how he didn’t learn about his father being their enemy. The “she wanted to protect him” excuse is not enough for me. How is it her right to decide what he can know? At the very least they could had added a quick scene with Emilie or Nathalie telling her not to tell him, that they would do that. And… I don’t know… if at some point Adrien finds out the truth and that Marinette knew and didn’t tell him, he could feel betrayed and he would be right if got mad at her for not telling him. Thing that, of course, in this show would never happen.

Another thing… What was the point of sending Adrien and Kagami to London? I think I remember either Gabriel or Tomoe saying something like it was to protect them. Ummm…. they still received the evil fairy dust. So, I repeat, what was the point?

Oh… What was this scene with Marinette playing Tinker Bell and doing something with the miraculous? Gabriel needed this high-tech lab to reshape the miraculous, yet she can do it in her room? Unless they tell me that she only placed a gemstone over the kwami’s symbols to make the miraculous a bit more discreet, this scene wouldn’t make sense.

Something else that doesn’t make sense. In the beginning of the second episode of this season when they added that ridiculous scene of Su-Han on his hands and knees asking for forgiveness, he said he was going back to the temple to get some help. It seems like in the way he forgot what a big threat Hawk Moth with all those miraculous was. Someone could tell me that he was busy training Luka, Jagged and Penny. First, when Luka left, he went right away looking for Su-Han? And even if that had been the case, Migration was episode 13. What was Su-Han doing all the time before that. And there’s still another thing. According to Su-Han a guardian cannot be a miraculous holder; I imagine he would say the same about an apprentice. Then, if he knows how powerful Hawk Moth was, wouldn’t it be more useful training them in mastering the use of a miraculous instead? There are supposed to be many miraculous boxes. That was said back in season… 3? Again, this is lazy writing. The decisions the characters take don’t make sense.

And there’s something about the end that doesn’t make sense and that also showed Marinette acting wrongly. The miraculous are incredibly powerful, which makes them incredibly dangerous in the wrong hands. Hawk Moth was no more. How is it that Su-Han didn’t ask for the miraculous? He should had taken them away back to the temple where one would like to assume they would be better protected under the eyes of all the order of the guardians. Sure, we saw that weird scene with Lila, but they don’t know about that. As far as they know there’s no longer a thread that requires magical powers.

And the part where I say Marinette acted wrongly is in not having renounced to the miraculous herself and to her role as guardian. Any truly mature and responsible person would had done that. Season 4, she lost the miraculous. Ok, she was fooled by Felix when he helped Hawk Moth steal the miraculous. She thought it was Adrien and not Felix. Still it should had been enough to revoke her role as holder and guardian. Everyone can make mistakes, yes. Everyone deserves a second chance, definitely. But since we’re taking about such powerful objects, the rules should be more strict.

And then again this season. She lost. She just was lucky that Gabriel’s wish wasn’t a destructive one. This is more than enough for Su-Han to have said “Thank you, but this is it”.

I go back to the point that she’s been portrayed as this mature person. A mature person would had made the sacrifice of loosing her memories if that meant the safety of such powerful objects. And thinking about it… who says that she “has” to officially renounce to being a guardian? Just hand Su-Han the miraculous and keep your memories. Maybe go train at the temple and when she becomes an adult and a trained guardian then she can receive back the miraculous box.

Oh, I almost forgot. How is it that she hadn’t figured out that Gabriel was Hawk Moth? Hadn’t she learned from Felix’s tale that Gabriel had the peacock miraculous? One plus one is two. You learn that Gabriel used the peacock miraculous to create Adrien. You know that Hawk Moth lives somewhere in Paris. You’ve seen Hawk Moth using the peacock miraculous. Then…

Astruc clearly wanted to create something epic. I don’t know if as a goodbye or if was trying to convince someone that he was more valuable in the writing team. For me the finale was too weird, too rushed and surreal. It was chaos. But it seems the fandom loved it, so that’s that. Wonder how long before they announce the series have been authorized for more seasons.

Wonder how much longer they’re gonna keep postponing the reveal. It is so unnecessary to postpone it. There are shows where the heroe’s identity was revealed in the first season (sometimes even in the first episode) and that didn’t affect the show in a negative way, like people loosing interest. I think they are more aware than they’re willing to accept that their writing is not the best and they don’t want to burn the one thing that the fandom has been waiting for so many years.

For season 6 I would expect them to come up with a seriously big bad antagonist. I mean, all the power from all the team should be enough to neutralize just about any threat.

As an ending to this post i want to point out the amazing work of the artists involved. The lighting, the textures, the composition. Personally that was my favorite thing about these two last episodes. Would had been awesome if the writers had put this much effort.

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ijustliketoreadstuff · 10 months

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People want Marinette to tell Adrien the truth? Yeah, of course, I'm sure she can just do that.

Hey Adrien, your dad was secretly Monarch the entire time, he had this secret plot to terrorize and akumatize a bunch of innocent people so he could get his hands on the miraculous to bring back your mom. Oh by the way your a sentimonster and those rings you have were used by your dad to control you like a puppet, don’t loose them. Also, your mom didn’t actually disappear, she was dying from the peacock miraculous after using it to bring you to life, but that's not something you need to blame yourself for. Any who, your dad hid her body in a secret basement underneath your mansion where she was in a pod for a whole year, Nathalie knew the whole time and went along with all of your dads plans for a while, but had a change of heart and gave me a phone that had a bunch of recordings of your mom telling Nathalie and your dad that she didn't want to be brought back and to not go on a total rampage to get the miraculous. Oh by the way, Nathalie also used the broken peacock miraculous, she’s Mayura, but then she started dying not long after that. The reason I know all this is because Felix told me the story of how the two of you were born sentimonsters and that his dad, Colt, also used the peacock miraculous, turns out, pretty much everyone in your family knew about the peacock miraculous. Oh, and I know Ladybug told you your dad sacrificed himself like a hero, but I was lying, yeah I was Ladybug the entire time . I fought with your dad in the mansion in what was basically a cage match at this point and found out where he was keeping your mom, buuut he got the cat and ladybug Miraculous from me and begged me not to tell you who he was as part of his final words before he died with your mom, but then again , he was going to die anyway from Cat Noir's cataclysm, you should have seen it, the guys body was literally crumbling and throwing up coal and ash, he was in the worst kind of pain imaginable, but that has nothing to do with you so your good. So yeah, he made his wish and had the entire universe destroyed and rebuilt so he could give you the life your mom wanted, but no one but me knew that, until I told you that is. I wasn't going to tell you this cause I thought it would be to much for you and cause I didn't want to totally ruin your entire now peaceful and happy life where your finally allowed to be free, have all your close friends and family, and think your dad was not a complete monster. Anyway that's pretty much it, have a rad summer!

Love,

-Marinette

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