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lycorogue · 2 years

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Oh sweet Mother of Pearl!

I’ve been working on a MariChat story for MONTHS!* Standard MariChat affair: Chat Noir has made a habit of coming over to Marinette’s room nearly nightly to hang out with her.

Chat Noir doesn’t know Marinette is Ladybug.

The story is set post-Season 3 (but deviates from the finale of S4).

Marinette is the Guardian.

She interacts with Tikki throughout the story.

I JUST NOW REMEMBERED THE OTHER KWAMIS!!!!

HOW THE HECKEN HAS MARINETTE BEEN HIDING THEM *NIGHTLY* FOR MONTHS/YEARS!? HOW HAVE THEY NOT LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG BY ACCIDENTALLY INTERACTING WITH CHAT NOIR!?

HOW HAS MARINETTE NOT INTERACTED WITH THEM THIS WHOLE STORY!? HOW DOES TALKING TO THEM HELP/HINDER EVERYTHING!? ARE THERE NOW NEW COMPLICATIONS TO ALL OF THE MARICHAT INTERACTIONS BECAUSE OF ROGUE-KWAMI SHENANIGANS!? HOW MUCH OF THIS PLOT DO I HAVE TO REWORK NOW!?

HELP! 😭😭😭😭😭😭

*Well, off-and-on for nearly 2 years, but consistently for the last 3 months or so...

#ML #Miraculous Ladybug #writing #fic writing #LycoRogue writing #ML spoilers #ML season 3 spoilers #Miraculous Ladybug season 3 spoilers #Miraculous Ladybug s3 spoilers #ML s3 spoilers #WHYYYYYYYYY #GD kwamis!#*shakes fist at sky*#*big sigh*#this is why I don't actually finish projects anymore #TT_TT #back to the drawing board #Seduce with Caution #LycoRogue original

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rosekasa · 10 months

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IM SO INCREDIBLY UNWELL

#WHAT DOYOUU MEANNNNNNNNNN #WHY ARE THEY SO CUTE #IM GOING TO LIE FACEDOWN IN THE MUD AND CRY #im going to rewatch old adrienette compilations from s3 #OH MY GODDDDD IM ILL I AM I L L !!!!!!!!#ml finale spoilers #ml recreation #ml recreation spoilers #ml conformation #ml conformation spoilers #ml spoilers #tagged:adrienette #♡alizeh talks♡#conformation spoilers #recreation spoilers

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xhanisai · 11 months

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ml revolution/representation spoilers below

imma be honest-

i think the show should have had only alya, alix and (hopefully soon) adrichat know that marinette is ladybug

i don’t like that too many people know, especially characters i don’t really care for that have done little to nothing to help LB out after finding out said info

#delete later #ml spoilers #ml representation #Ml representation spoilers #ml revolution #Ml revolution spoilers #this is NOT salt this is me just saying i don't like X #like s5 is great and all and i am enjoying myself but there are so many things which i wish weren't done or was changed after s3 honestly #but that's just a me thing #don't ask me about this i don't wanna talk further about it lolol

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miraculouslycool · 1 year

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Tbh the only time the class not believing Marinette about Lila or giving Chloe free pass after free pass made some sort of sense was in Season 3. After season 4 that plotline should have run its course - even seeing it in a flashback just looks dumb (even though it makes sense chronologically, just because of how nonsensical it is in the present)

#im just sad they're doing this to alya and nino when they excel at friendship in every other way possible #and no this STILL doesnt make adrien's decision to not out Lila in S3 wrong #he didnt have all the info but he was spot on about the timing #ml salt #derision #ml spoilers

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fandomrouletteburrito · 2 years

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You know what I think they’re doing in those whatif episodes? Especially the placing of the episodes. Showing what would happen if Adrien faced Hawkmoth when he isn’t ready.

Season 3

During these episodes, Ladybug gets another piece of the complicated puzzle that Chat Noir is made of. In Chat Blanc, she knew something about Chat Noir was capable of being broken enough to be akumatized.

What we also learned was Adrien isn’t ready to break the chains his father has placed on him.

Season 3 for Adrien was about getting truly comfortable with being Chat Noir with realizing that what he can be for Ladybug is to just be himself as Chat Noir. That he doesnt need to be perfect Adrien via Aspik, Adrien is the best for Ladybug when he is Chat Noir, which also as we know is just another side of Adrien. He doesnt need to shut out his Chat Noir side to be by Ladybug’s side by just being Aspik. This is much more reinforced in Kuro Neko which I get to later.

Season 4

At this time in the series Adrien is only beginning to be challenged in his role as part of the Miraculous team in season 4. I say challenged because up until now he could very safely say he is vital to the team since Ladybug was 1) not the Guardian until then 2) there are only a few heroes and Ladybug calls on them ONLY after he and Ladybug attempt to handle things by themselves. This changes in season 4 where she calls on them pretty much whenever she wants and not after first trying with Chat Noir.

Totally unrelated but I really liked that despite Chat Noir giving up his miraculous Ladybug NEVER even considers continuing without a Chat Noir, which to me just states that she understands the importance of the Cat miraculous. Which she also needed to understand to find another one(cough failed since she ended up going back to the original heheh and I love her for it).

In the end of the season 4 though, Chat Noir is left beginning to understand the value that he by himself has, we can see this in the last scene where he tells Ladybug that she hasn’t lost him yet. He is capable of doing this because he KNOWS he is important to Ladybug and that he is enough to bring her back on her feet. Maybe he doesn’t understand fully but I am sure he will in time. Also notice in Ephemeral he faced hawkmoth ALONE, which maybe Im reading too much into it also shows he isn’t ready to resist akumatization by himself BUT we also see him beginning to when Marinette calls to him for help while he is akumatized.

We get Kuro Neko directly after Ephemeral which is important because uptil Ephemeral we see Chat Noir continue to feel left out and undervalued. But in Kuro Neko this is beginning to be addressed which again undoes the feelings that likely helped Adrien get akumatized.

So how does this end?

I bet when Adrien finds out about hawkmoth, there will be a scene where Ladybug parallels that scene telling him that he hasn’t lost her. Where she reaches out and shows him that she is there for HIM.

And how do we get to that scene?

In Chat Blanc we saw Chat Noir use - fight as his reaction

In Ephemeral he used - freeze

I am willing to bet he will use flight, find Ladybug and thats when Ladybug supports him enough to face reality, together with her.

I think whats going to happen when Chat Noir finds out about his dad its going to involve him needing to successfully resist akumatization. I think this is very likely too since we have already seen many characters successfully resist it and I’m sure we will see the same from Adrien in time.

But through each season Adrien gets a little bit more ready to break away from his fathers control and his bond with Ladybug gets stronger.

Thoughts?

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pippipdiddlydoodles · 1 year

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MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON MARICHAT IS CANON

#KADSKLSGKJLF #DKJWSDALJS #I ACTUALLY #NEVERRRR!!!!!!#THOUGHT THIS WOULD HAPPEN IN ALL OF THE EVER #THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME DURING S3 THAT MARICHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST SIDE TO BE CANON #THE FIRST SIDE OF THE LOVESQUARE TO HAVE A LEGITIMATE VERIFIED KISS #HOLY FRIGGIN MOLY #THEY'RE ACTUALLY GENUINELY IN LVOE W EACH OTHRE ??!?!?!?#THIS EPISIODE STOLE MY KNEECAPS #ml spoilers #ml season 5 #exaltation #elation #(what the heck why are there two titles. i thought roaar was the kwami of exaltation)#exaltation spoilers #elation spoilers #this episodde is making me feel unwell #yelling barfing sobbing wetting my pants etc #if i get hit by a bus tomorrow i will have died happy #I REALLY THOUGHT THOMAS ASTRUCK HATED MARICHAT AND WOULD NEVER GIVE US ANYTHING MROE MARICHAT THAN GLACIATOR 2 #EVERYONE SAY THANK YOU 2 THE WRITERS !!!!!!

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thesaltyoceanwaves · 2 years

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By this point, I think it’s safe to say that Miraculous Ladybug is not about ‘girl power’. Not in the way that’s traditionally meant. Rather than empowering girls, it’s about disempowering them – presenting the idea of girls having any kind of power as problematic.

The series twists itself into knots blaming Marinette for everything that goes wrong, following the most inane lines of ‘logic’ imaginable. It is far more invested in convincing its audience that she IS to blame for things far out of her control, that she is responsible for everything bad that happens. Her, and perhaps a few other characters as well… namely Chloe, Alya, Lila…

Oh, Adrien? Why, Adrien hasn’t done anything wrong. How could you even suggest such a thing? No, no, Adrien is perfect just the way he is, hasn’t made a single misstep anywhere. There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

And what makes this all so much more disturbing is how it’s working. How much of the fanbase mindlessly parrots the party line, cheering on her suffering and insisting that she ’deserves it’, that her misery is well warranted. This is not and has never been a show about uplifting and supporting young girls; it is about tearing them down and punishing them for not catering to spoiled brats like Adrien. Teaching them that this is the way things are meant to be.

What is this going to teach impressionable young girls? If you have a crush on a popular guy that other girls like, they’re are immediately your enemies. It’s natural for girls to be pinned against eachother for the stupidest reasons. Teaching girls to turn against each other and mistreat each other like the common stereotype. That their only good people if they bend over backwards for the person they like even though their crush doesn’t do the same.

It’s disgusting.

Well anon, you've essentially summed up the reason why I quit watching this show.

Like the whole ending of the season being that Marinette loses all of the other miraculouses but still has AdriChat is devastating. Like:

A. AdriChat being solely depended on is not a healthy thing. He's not going to have all the answers MariBug needs, and his perspective is limited.

B. MariBug wasn't going to other holders because she couldn't trust AdriChat - it was because the scale and intensity of their fights was getting to be too much for the two of them to handle on their own.

C. AdriChat has proven that he's not entirely trustworthy anyway - like he was pulling shit all the way back in s1, but his actions in s3 and s4 are the most telling. And unlike MariBug, who always has to learn a lesson, even when it doesn't make sense, or makes up for her mistakes, Adrien's "mistakes" don't even count as mistakes because hE cOuLd NeVeR!

Like most magical girl anime, even the ones that really lean into power of love, aren't like this. They encourage friendship and teamwork and relying on each other, not just your love interest. How ML manages to be MG-inspired but miss that entirely is beyond me.

#ml salt #ml s4 spoilers #ml s4 finale spoilers #adrien salt #writing salt #salty answers #i gave up after s3 bc like #ofc it was only gonna get worse #but ughhhhh

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927roses-and-stuff · 1 year

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"we've got time"

WE'VE GOT TIME?

y'alllll ml derision made me cry like a baby omg and that speech???? the honest conversation with marinette and adrien about their relationship?? i?? SOBBING Y'ALL OMG

#okay outside of that this felt a s1-s3 ep #but a lot of things make sense about mari no #marinette deserves better #s5 mlb spoilers #miraculous ladybug s5 spoilers #ml s5 derision #ml s5 leaks

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zukoandtheoc · 9 months

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hi i know i am so late to this party but we're getting caught up on Miraculous s5 and we just watched the kwamis choice two parter and iam LOSING MY MIND

GUYS.

i had a fanfic concept from TWO YEARS AGO that involved plagg cataclysming his own miraculous to stop the wish from being used

when i tell you i SCREAMED

#evan speaks #miraculous ladybug #ml deflagration #ml s5 spoilers #i still havent seen the rest of s5 so dont talk to me about it on this post please #but i;m still LOSING MY FUCKING MIND #like im talking this concept was from the gap between s3 and s4.

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applecherry108 · 1 year

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So I watched the new ML episodes. Did they seriously drop 3 at once or was I just not paying attention for several weeks? Also extremely funny that they’re all Kagami-centric. Like, fuck the plot, fuck continuity, someone at Gloob is a Kagami stan. 😂

#apple talks #ml spoilers #very very light spoilers like surprise. kagami is there a lot (for once)#also the fact that they were uploaded out of order on miraculous.to is just so *chefs kiss* so very ML 😂😂#absolutely hilarious to go from—wasn’t the last episode before this the marichat episode?#hilarious to go from that to what we’re immediately thrown into with these new ones #like ofc I want to see what happened in those skipped over episodes but I’m also not surprised #p sure it was like confirmed by astruc or someone on Twitter the other year the they’d so #solidify the romance in s5 so like… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯#more vague and more spoilery but that fucking bombshell in (protection I think?) like someone made a shitpost about it in s3 or even s2 #and it’s fucking canon holy shit

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sfigatino · 2 years

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Hello, Marinette.

#chat noir #cat noir #chat blanc #cat blanc #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #mlb #adrien agreste #carissa’s art #carissa’s work #ladybug #ml ladybug #ml chat noir #ml cat noir #ml cat blanc #ml chat blanc #akumatized villains #akumatized adrien #s3 spoilers

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sungsuho · 3 months

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S CLASS HERONINE SEASON FINALEEEEEEE

#gah.... so excited for s3 #i will always anf forever wish for girls love OF COURSE but i am really excited for her new intereactions e the ml...#especially knowing <spoilers>

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ambi-kiko · 7 months

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MAG 4 Page Turner

why is he so pissed at Jurgen Lightner (how do u spell that) lmao. ALSO. GERTRUDE WAS THERE FOR 50 YEARS?? shit shes old

this was kinda confusing the first time but i really did like it. i really really do now tho bc of future shit so time for

spoilers! s3~4 (:

OMG THEY INTRODUCE GERRY SO EARLY OMG?? so ofc i had to draw him (im actually surprised i didnt do that before) hearing him and mary is just so sad.

plus theres a leightner?? already?? awesome omg and ite ex altiaura AND MICHAEL CREW IS ALREADY INTRODUCED??? thats rly wild

oh and my guess for this one (at least for the book) is the Vast! im not too concerned for being wrong on that one but ill check anyway lmao

spoilers done! (:

my offering of the day is gonna be that little goth with the shitty black hairdye who comes and burns the book (gerry ml)

and thats it for this ep! see you guys next time ((:

#coren's relisten!#tma #tma relisten #jon sims #Jonathan sims #jonny sims #gerry #gerry keay #Gerard keay #<- i actually feel so bad for that tag #urgh gross #mary keay #the magnus archives #magnuspod #magnus archives

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emsylcatac · 1 year

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Sorry I'm uncultured and I found your post through tumblr's 'you liked simular posts' but who's gloob and what's plusplus??

Heya!

They are the TV networks that broadcast Miraculous in Brazil and Ukraine respectively!

For instance ML is broadcast by TF1 (kids program is TFou) in France, Disney Channel in the US, RTS (kids program is RTS kids) in Switzerland, Gloob in Brazil, Plusplus in Ukraine, etc.

We're talking a lot about Gloob and Plusplus because they tend to release episodes out of order - Plusplus is infamous for releasing the S3 finale before the episodes "Chat Blanc" and "Félix" were out worldwide, and they announced they'd release the S4 finale early last season while we were still missing a bunch of episodes - thankfully the episodes weren't ready and it didn't happen, but fans were angry when they announced they wouldn't respect the order.

Gloob is infamous for sharing too many spoilers and too revealing/spoilery trailers, and wanting to be the first TV channel to release ML episodes worldwide. So they'll do anything to be first, and if they aren't first, they'll do anything they can to ruin the experience for the fans, be it by sharing as many spoilers as they can, or releasing episodes widely out of order to make sure that the channels who respect the order won't release episodes before them.

The reason we're talking about them a lot lately is because this season the order is very important and there's been a consensus at the start that the channels would release the episodes in order. Gloob also said they'd respect that. The problem is that TFou, the French channel, released a few episodes first in a very short period of time (episode 4-5-6-7-8-9, while Gloob had released 1-2-3 first). TFou made the mistake of skipping episode 5 but it was released a week after - so it was annoying but not that big of a deal.

Gloob got angry that they weren't first to release all these episodes, so to ensure they'd be first next time, they've decided to break the consensus of respecting the order and released last week 2 episodes out of order: we had the first 9 episodes and they've decided to release episodes 12 and 18 on the same day, which breaks the order a lot. Tomorrow, they'll be releasing episode 16, continuing to ruin the experience for the fans (and for the Brazilian fans, because they haven't broadcast yet some earlier episodes). So people are rightfully angry with them hahaha

The reason we're talking about Plusplus is because some Gloob fans have accused the people who are pissed at gloob for releasing the episodes out of order of only being angry at Brazil. Which is obviously stupid and untrue as we're angry at the TV network, so we're reminding them that we were equally pissed off at Plusplus (so a Ukrainian TV network) when they released the finale early.

I hope that was a clear summary of who these TV networks are and the latest drama 😅

#ask #badluck990 #gloob #gloob salt

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miraculouslycool · 1 year

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something in my chest twists in rage when i see marinette feeling like she's the one who needs to be apologising to socqueline in derision after chloe got her suspended

#it makes me even angrier when i remember this exact same thing happened to her in s3 #ml spoilers #derision #marinette deserves better

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jellojolteon · 9 months

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Thoughts on ml movie below the cut (not really looking for any response, just to drop my thoughts somewhere, but y'know standard spoiler warning too)

Really mixed bag? Like genuinely and truly. There were parts of it that made me laugh! The humor was genuinely fun and I loved the use of cuts! There were parts that were really great! And the visuals are unquestionably stunning.

I'll abstain from an opinion on the musical numbers since that isn't really my cup of tea and I can't judge em

And I'm willing to let rest that this is a retelling, and it's a cool take on the story in terms of what got brought back (mime guy from the pv??? Amazing so glad that got given a proper use) and even the characterizations are fine in my book, especially given limited runtime.

But I think that this movie (and this seems like a common problem in the show too, at least to the point through s3 where I had stopped watching) (and the marketing too tbh) is that it tries to do too much with too little substance. It spreads itself too thin. What even IS the theme here? Is it the love over death thing? Is it self-acceptance? So much was stuffed in that it was all tell and almost no show.

It pays lip service to the original idea of trying to put another Real Girl Superhero into the spotlight and simply by virtue of the mechanism that the agreste family plays in the story, aka them as the driving force of the plot, it's hard to handle it and have Marinette still be clearly the main character. In retrospect, there's almost a bitter irony to Adrien cockily proclaiming that he's the main hero and Marinette is the sidekick. I think if Marinette had really had her growth focused clearly in one direction it wouldn't have been so bad, but the multiple themes really eat away at forming a cohesive picture about her and her growth and cementing for the audience that she's the star. I guess the "she-hero" bit just bugs me an exceeding amount.

As a result of the allotment of character complexity, it almost feels like Gabriel is the most compelling character, even though he's still sort of flattened into a two-dimensional version of himself. He's an asshole to Adrien at the beginning, like pretty blatantly, and then explains away everything at the end and boosh suddenly everything is ok. I didn't even pick up that he had any sort of atonement or one-on-one time with the French judicial system, outside of the implication of him going to jail by trusting Nathalie with the secret of Emilie. So like. I guess the things that make Gabriel most compelling are his longer hair when he was younger and his absolute scuzzy gutter dad look lmfao.

(side note, part of me lived in fear of being spoiled of the parts of the show I haven't watched, but I guess if there were such spoilers I missed em. It just surprised me that they were willing to play their hand on Gabriel=Hawkmoth with so little fanfare, but then again maybe I shouldn't be asking so much when it was already all spread so thin)

So like

Yeah

It didn't necessarily have me staring raptly at the screen, but most of my gripes are of the same flavor that I have for the show anyway.

There were much worse uses of my afternoon 😂

#i think nino and alya and sabrina get the best shake outta this one #ml movie spoilers #ml #ml salt #(just in case!)#jello's word vomit #(maybe i shoulda dropped like 20 tags in to get this out of the search function)#(i really just want blog categorization)#please ignore this im sure my media literacy is so rusty it needs to be sandblasted

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