Let me use this opportunity of getting weird Loumand anons once more to say something that's been on my mind:
All the bad faith, passive aggressive anon asks (especially those wanting to make the "ships" about the fandom "shipping them" (or not) because of "color" and "racism") I see around piss me off sooooo much.
Lets look at the "ships" we have so far:
Loustat: difficult, at times toxic, later not so much, endgame
Loumand: difficult, at first infatuated, then dead, later healing
Lesmand: difficult, at times insane, obsessive in parts
Devil's Minion: difficult, intense, at times insane, obsessive in parts, endgame
What have all these "ships" in common?
They are canon relationships. And they are difficult.
Two of those are endgame.
Let's dive in (a bit).
Loustat:
At this point not much has to be said about why Loustat are toxic in parts, but that changes - their character journeys are inverted, and they are endgame. Two sides of the same coin. They are "petty and in love" as Jacob called it, and they are "it" for each other, for better or for worse.
Loumand:
Born from Lesmand actually, because Lestat goes to Armand to make him care for Louis (and for Armand's blood), which... works. But the initial infatuation phase, while honest on Louis' side, is based on Armand's fascination with him because of Lestat. He gaslights Louis into loving him. I bet they will be very much shown to be in love, and then the shit will hit the fan and then... Louis will be destroyed, for a long, long time. Qualifies as toxic for me, too, btw. The Loumand in later years, in Trinity Gate (or Dubai?) is a more healing one, one where Louis comes to terms with who he is and what he wants in safe, stable, loving surroundings. And I bet they are freaks in the sheets :P
Lesmand:
Obsessive, and while loving definitely more so from Armand's side than Lestat's. He "imprints" on Lestat when he sees him because Lestat reminds him of Marius, and a lot of Armand's actions are informed by his need for Lestat, and the fact that Lestat upends his world. That said, the fascination itself is mutual, and I bet the show will have them engage in a proper affair.
Devil's Minion:
Wohooo, Daniel, a gift from Louis for Armand!!! Armand shifts full on obsessive and love on Daniel, Daniel, who will become his only fledgling. (And who goes mad for a while, too!) The show has obviously expanded the journey, but I don't think it will change too much - Daniel is the only one Armand could not let die. Talk about love beyond reason or endurance.
ALL OF THESE SHIPS ARE RELATIONSHIPS IN THE VC.
YOU CANNOT PUT A VALIDATION BASED ON SKIN COLOR ON THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL VALID.
And they are canon.
Saying the fandom doesn't "ship" Loumand because of them being POC is just ludicrous.
If you think Louis in Dubai in season 1 is "happy" I don't know what to tell you. We haven't really seen "happy" Loumand yet, and, depending on how they spin it(!) we might not even see it in season 2, though I think they will make it seem as if it is happy and "pure" at first.
But they might throw in the horror of Claudia knowing (and she does, canonically, she tries to warn Louis!) and being ignored by Louis (failing her again) in - in fact, I take the little info of the scenes we have of Sam and Armand filming as precisely that, namely that they make it clear that there is a relationship there as well... and how that relationship enables Loumand.
And then Armand will kill Claudia. And Madeleine.
And Louis will stay with him.
Personally I found later Loumand always very healing, as said. (But, personally(!!!!!!), also a bit boring. I love them, but... writing them (i.e.) does not hold much appeal right now.
But that might change with the upcoming seasons!) But the Loumand in Paris?? Hell, that's not even real, Armand gaslights Louis into loving him, uses his spell gift and mind gift as influence, poor Louis. And it will hurt Louis, incredibly so.
Making it seem as if people, especially people with a background in the books, do not "ship" them because of the actors' skin color... is just...
There's many, many reasons to ship them.
There's many, many reasons not to.
I OBVIOUSLY cannot speak for everyone. But these simplified takes are becoming so tiresome, when there are so many other reasons that need to be considered.
And honestly, as said before, I fully expect parts of this fandom to turn on Armand when he is being himself, when his relationship to Lestat is becoming clear, when his meddling and role in Claudia's death are clear and... can you imagine the outcry when they actually kill off the black (likely) lesbian character and her lover. -.-
If they actually chop of Claudia's head on stage.
Mayhem.
Which brings me to the next part:
My predictions for season 2:
Louis hurting, seeing Lestat everywhere (outcry)
Loumand in love, oh so sweet, look at them
Claudia gets a girlfriend!! (Sweet!)
What is Lestat doing there? (outcry)
What, Armand is interested in Louis because of Lestat?? (outcry)
What, Louis is yearning for Lestat?? (outcry)
What, Armand is doing what to Claudia (and Madeleine)? "ThEy KiLl tHe gAys!!" ((outcry)
Armand throws Lestat off a tower (Meh, he deserved it, should have been much worse)
What, Louis stays with Armand?? (outcry)
Whatever will go on with Louis and Lestat (outcry)
At some point people will turn on Assad, I agree here with what has been said by others on this.
They could not separate Sam from Lestat, they will not do so for Assad, in fact THERE I can easily see it be much worse, because of the racial implications.
I can also see them turn on Jacob btw, because Louis stays with Armand. "How could he". -.-
So: Even if you are only a "show fan", if you have no idea of what the books might bring... the hiatus is still very long, and going and hating on people, accusing them of racism, because people who know the books go a bit bonkers when they see certain bts photos... is on you - not them.
These ships are all canon relationships.
And valid.
End of rant.
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hey eevee, can you explain minons to me? :< i dont understand much
Yes, yes I can
So, basic info first off
Canonically, the Minions are a species that have been around since basically the dawn of time (so they're pretty much immortal), and their purpose is to find a "boss" to help out and serve. Currently they serve Gru (we all know him), who encountered the minions as a kid. The minions literally did not leave him alone :'3
The most identifiable minions I think are Bob, Otto and Mel. The reason I'm not including the other two main minions, Kevin and Stuart, is because there are other minions that look very similar to them, and Bob, Otto and Mel have their own distinct features that we haven't seen any other minion have.
As mentioned, Kevin, Stuart and Bob are basically the main 3 minions everyone knows (you already know how much I simp for the guitar cyclops)
Honestly, I'm surprised the minions aren't more intelligent considering they have been on earth for like, billions of years, but hey, it's for the humor. Despite their lower intelligence they are (for the most part) very loyal, funny and kindhearted! (Stuart is sort of an ass though but I love him)
Also, the minions have their own language! It's called Minionese (I've seen it referred to as the "banana language" though). It's basically a mix of a bunch of languages plus their own random words (it also has a lot of Spanish in it).
RANDOM FACTZ
- They can glow, as shown in Despicable Me 3 and a DM short film
- Despite us not speaking their language, it's shown that other people can understand what they're saying
- There is HUNDREDS of them, and Gru has them all
- They all have their own individual names! Some of them share a name though. For instance, it's been shown that there's two Kevin's and two Jerry's
- BANANAAAA!
- They have a variety of different looks, some are medium-sized/shorter and can either have one or two eyes, and can have a variety of different hair styles, the most common are combed or buzzed hair for them. Some are taller, like Kevin, but have mostly only been shown to have two eyes and sprout hair. Some are rounder as well, and can also have a variety of different hair, like buzzed and sprout. The only really short one we've seen thus far is Bob.
Bee do bee do blah blah blah
If you have any more questions let me know, I can always explain the characters more in depth or explain the franchise in general :3
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