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crossdressingdeath · 2 years

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hey!

what do you think of the relationship between wwx and jyl? and attributing to both novel and cql portrayals of their relationship... which do you think is more realistic?

also i hope you have a nice day/night!

It's not a healthy relationship, or a good one, whatever WWX thinks of it.

JYL will never actually, properly take WWX's side. It doesn't matter if he's obviously in the right, or blatantly the victim; at most she'll cluck and coo and say "there, there" and make him soup. She will never really try to help or even acknowledge that he is in the right. We see this from their first on-page interaction; JC chases WWX out of Lotus Pier in the middle of the night with his worst fear because he's sulking about a decision JFM made, and WWX gets seriously hurt. Hell, he could've died out in the woods alone with no one knowing where he was. When JC goes to get JYL, you'd expect her to get an adult, wouldn't you? Get help from people stronger than her? But instead she goes out herself to track WWX down, and the only reason I can think of for that is that if she got an adult JC would be in trouble for causing the whole mess. WWX offers to take the blame, and JYL just accepts that! Right from the start she's happy for WWX to take the consequences for JC's actions!

And this continues right through to the end, while we don't see a lot of specific interactions through their lives. JC names WWX a traitor to the sects, seriously injures him, and agrees to take part in an assault on WWX's home with the explicit intent of killing him. WWX just sits in the Burial Mounds with a civilian population and doesn't hurt a single person who doesn't attack him first. And JYL takes JC's side. She tells WWX to back off and back down right the way through to her death, despite knowing why he's standing against the sects. She tells him to stop at Nightless City, like he's the aggressor. That is not the response of someone who views him and JC as equals, or someone who loves him just as much as JC with no care for rank or blood relation; that is the response of someone who thinks WWX is inherently lesser. For all her claims she expects WWX to surrender to the rich, powerful sects, and damn the consequences for him and the people he's protecting. Hell, she shows up in the Burial Mounds in her wedding dress that could probably feed everyone in the place for a month to chatter on about how she's marrying into the family trying to kill WWX and the civilians under his protection with apparently zero awareness of the situation. At this point she's either being wilfully blind or she just does not care now that WWX is an inconvenience. Either way, she clearly doesn't actually love him like a brother; if she did she'd try to... actually help him, instead of just treating him like the problem.

As for the second part of your ask, I... have to admit I don't actually know what you're asking. WWX and JYL's relationship is more or less the same in both the novel and CQL, and as for realistic... I mean, sure...? Some people are shite siblings. Some people are classist in less obvious ways than screaming fury over the ~evil lower classes~. It's a thing.

#mdzs #lotus sister #asks #vntaebun

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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 21 days

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Daughter of delta Yu, show them that you're no fool!

[First] Prev <–-> Next

#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #yu ziyuan #jiang fengmian #jinzhu #yinzhu #wang lingjiao #wen zhuliu #elle woods #Not officially appearing but this is very much supposed to continue on the running gag of her being a character in pd-mdzs.#Yes I have been thinking about how Yu and Nu sound the same. Would it not be funny if YZY and Elle Woods were martial sisters?#Oh man I really hope help gets to lotus pier in time. I hope things turn out okay despite the odds.#I always wondered what YZY ended up fighting with once she gave away zidian. Supposedly she would have a sword right?#Let us also factor in the fact she gets her core 'melted' and can't use spiritual weapons anymore.#We know for a fact that this does not stop someone from still kicking ass.#Thus I propose: Yu Ziyuan as a bare knuckle brawler. In my heart she's a multiclass barbarian/monk.#As *if* she would go down without causing a bit more bloodshed once her core was gone.#Gatekeep Gaslight Girlviscerate your enemies.

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toaster-fire-art · 1 year

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obsessed with her again

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add1ctedt0you · 3 months

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Four times Jiang Cheng protected someone

Bonus: Two times Jiang Cheng was protected by someone

Yet, at the same time, Wen Zhuliu was closing in on Madam Yu. He looked as if he was about to knock her down. Jiang Cheng hurried, "Mom!"

He immediately gave up on Wang Lingjiao and threw himself over.

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation - Chapter 58 - Poisons - Part 3

That, at the town we passed on our way, when you were buying food, a group of Wen Sect cultivators caught up. That, I discovered them early and left where I sat, hiding at the corner of the street and didn't get caught, but they were patrolling the streets and would soon run into you outside.

That this was why I ran out and distracted them.

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation - Chapter 110 - Concealment - Part 4

Jiang Cheng heard the voice as well. In an istant, his face had turned white, "Sis? Sis! Where are you? Where are you?"

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation - Chapter 78 - Nightfall - part 3

With a roar, Nie Mingjue grabbed at Jin Ling. Both Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling had backed away to the corner of the wall, unable to retreat further. Jiang Cheng could only stuff Jin Ling behind him and unsheathe Sandu, which at the moment was unable to use spiritual energy, forcing himself to fend off the attack.

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation - Chapter 107- Concealment - Part 1

Bonus:

Lan Wangji grabbed Wei Wuxian's shoulder with one hand, letting Wei Wuxian stand behind him, and with his other hand he forcefully pushed away Jiang Cheng's hand. Rage could be seen hidden within his eyes. Although his push held no spiritual energy, it was quite powerful in terms of strength. The wound at Jiang Cheng's chest ripped apart again. Blood surged.

Jin Ling cried, "Uncle, your wound! Hanguang-jun, spare some mercy!"

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation - Chapter 102- Hatred - Part 5

Nie Mingjue's heavy fist punched through a body.

But the body was neither Jiang Cheng's nor Jin Ling's.

Wen Ning blocked himself before the wall, in front of the two of them. With both his hands, he grabbed Nie Mingjue's iron arm and slowly pulled it out of his chest, leaving behind a large, hollow hole. There was no bleeding. Only a couple of black organ crumbs fell out.

The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation - Chapter 107- Concealment - Part 1

#This gifset had been something #On one hand I adore wzc and his expressions (bless him)#On the other hand I noticed how much cql committed to yunmeng bros and zhancheng agenda!#Also there are other moments where jc flings himself into danger to protect someone that I didn't include there #Also. It's my unpopular (?) opinion that jc tries to save his sister at nightless city. I like it so it's in the gifset lol #But. For the life of me. I couldn't find a moment where jc tries to protect jfm lol #I suppose jc's 'dad. let's go back to Lotus pier and die all together' kinda is jc protecting his dad but uh. I suppose they don't have #enough moments together *shrugs*#jiang cheng #*mgifs #uh. should I like put before the novel quotes and then the bonus gifs + the quotes?? uhhhh #Anyway I made the gifset only for the bonus lol. Tbh I find it hilarious #cw blood

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barawrah · 4 months

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wwx goes home after reincarnation au

#yunmeng bros you hurt me everyday #zhancheng are best friends here !!#they send letters every week . back and forth #its mostly not at all subtle insults and pretty subtle worrying about each other #gestures at wangji guys i think he should live in lotus pier #picks him up from the cr and puts him in a little room beside jiang chengs #and they . cohabitate #its funny . they like each other a lot because well this is what happens when #you have to coparent your dead brother/persons kid and your sister/sil s kid #and then wwx comes back and lwj is in cr for something and #jc sends him a letter like are u sure u want to do this u can still say no #ok thats it #art tag #mdzs #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #yunmeng shuangjie #wangxian #a little bit

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stem-sister-scuffle · 3 months

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STEM SISTER SCUFFLE: ROUND 1 MASHUP 11

Lotus/Hazuki Kashiwabara (Zero Escape) vs Lup (The Adventure Zone)

Lotus/Hazuki Kashiwabara is a Computer Scientist and Programmer/Hacker!

Lup is an Astrophysicist and Extraplaner Researcher! (she researches inter-dimensional space travel)

Lup fanart made by @herbgerblin

Why you should vote for each contestant:

Lotus/Hazuki Kashiwabara:

"She's practical she's smart she is caring, she will force hack a security system while she is kidnapped and maintaining a deep conversation like is no biggie and will info dump about science and psychology facts in the middle of said kidnapping"

"At first you think she’s just the token sexy lady character but then like 3/4 into the game you find out NO she is PROFICIENT IN EVERY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE and CAN HACK ANYTHING and IS A PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE ENGINEER. She does all this dressed as a belly dancer with her whole tiddies out. Her science-ness is a mild spoiler so I’m not sure how you’d handle it?? But tbh I think it’s fine it’s the least spoilery reason I’ve seen any zero escape character submitted to a tumblr poll"

"SHE'S GREAT SHE'S LOVELY SHE IS A GIRLBOSS. She's also a mom and loves her daughters so much 🥺 Lotus is her codename, not her real name. Most people call her by that name though, since her real name is only mentioned a couple times total... I wouldn't technically consider her real name a spoiler since it's not plot relevant, so do with that what you want"

"milf who loves her kids. a very entertaining character but also helps a lot with the game by using her programming skills. look up her coding cg it is Something"

"She's digital security consultant and a talented computer hacker! She helps you out a lot with one of the puzzles ingame, she has 2 daughters, and she likes to bellydance! also she's divorced"

"canon milf single mother slay. she mean and i love her"

Lup:

"badass trans woman who is not only a highly competent astrophysicist who was chosen to be part of the first extra-planar expedition, she is also an incredibly powerful evocation (blowing shit up) wizard and uses her powers to full effect. in addition she has, along with her husband, transformed herself into an incredibly powerful lich, just all around badass and competent woman in stem we love to see it"

"Literally studied space and inter-dimensional travel and magic and necromancy for 100 years. She was part of her home planet’s first inter-dimensional expedition on a crew of 7. She’s got that transfem swag and literally became a lich for love and science and to save the universe"

"She’s incredible. She’s trans, she’s a lich, she and her husband pined for decades before getting together, she’s an elf, she’s a twin, but that’s all just spices in the cake. She’s genuinely a genius and a total badass and is so full of love. She is the first character i thought of for submitting to a women in stem bracket because she’s just so iconic. Lup Adventurezone i would die for you"

#stem sister scuffle #round 1 #lotus zero escape #zero escape 999 #zero escape #hazuki kashiwabara #lup adventurezone #taz lup #taz balance #the adventure zone balance #the adventure zone

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fabuloustrash05 · 7 months

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I don't care how non family related Leo and Karai are in future versions of TMNT or in fellow fans' own takes on TMNT where they say they're not related at all in their versions.

When there's been TWO versions of Karai being Leo's relative in the span of a decade, it makes shipping him with her in other versions very VERY weird and uncomfortable when that thought is in the back of your head.

TMNT 2012 and Rottmnt has officially burned the bridge of the Leo x Karai concept.

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kingsandbastardz · 2 months

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So this is a thing that’s been bouncing around in my head for awhile, but I hadn’t really had a good starting point for it because it was just a billion fragmented pieces. I kinda have to write it now, though bc I think it’s giving me mental constipation and actively preventing me from writing other things. Anyway, forgive me for being long-winded.

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Regardless of how you see the ending – whether you think he reached enlightenment/ascended, or he died, or he lived -- llh’s story is about escaping the narrative.

FDB meanwhile is about being a catalyst of change or transformation, whether it is for his own life or llh’s. He exists in a shifting narrative space that's difficult to define and creates narrative movement from that.

DFS… well. He's still trapped.

First, what exactly is ‘the narrative’ I’m talking about here? It’s a thought or concept, it’s alive yet also not. It’s essentially the words of a story strung together and told and retold, adjusting to the whims of the storyteller and the desires of the people hearing it. It lives and changes organically based on call, response and group consensus.

It’s a crowd of people sitting around an old man in one town, nodding along and yelling when they don’t like the direction a story is going – and then in the next town, that same story teller making adjustments so he gets more tips that evening. It’s people in other towns asking repeatedly for the same story over and over because they like that one hero and each time, the storyteller obliges them, with small details being added or falling off. It’s the collected gossip that morphs as it moves like lightning through an entire city. It’s the records found in a courts’ archives where the ink has become smeared and illegible because a scribe dropped it in a puddle and the next scribe did his best to write in the margins what he thinks it said. Probably.

It is the men at the beginning and end of MLC telling the crowd about Li Xiangyi’s great feats while dressed in white, and heroically battling evil.

This changing, amorphous thing is The Narrative. Now, see the entirety of MLC as such a story—this narrative being told by all these different voices to the audience (us).

So LLH escapes it. FDB defies it and changes it and refuses to live by it.

DFS is… he is part of it. If he ever cared about what anyone says about him, dfs has long since given up on changing the narrative. He’s learned to accept it because it literally doesn’t matter what he says or does – ppl will always spin it to suit the needs of the story, which will then get passed around as fact. So he lives within this framework of societal expectation for the villainous. He weaponizes it to use it to his advantage. And, ultimately, he’s trapped by it.

Imagine a yin yang symbol. Imagine llh standing on one dot with dfs standing on another. Imagine the yin yang spinning as they both walk forward. They’re interlinked, never to be separated. They’re mirrors, but at the same time always moving in opposite directions of each other as the symbol spins. This is the position I image DFS being when in relation to llh.

Narratively, DFS both parallels and moves in opposite directions to llh.

Mirrored parallels, let’s go with that - Where they are the same but on opposite ends of it:

Visually dark vs light in clothing etc, even their masks are black vs silver and on opposite sides of their faces

Skills and energy-wise: both utilize pure yang energies but fast and overwhelming vs slow and steady

Positioned as great rivals/oppositional forces of equal skill

He’s just as trapped by the narrative as LXY but as the demon lord instead of the hero

Repeatedly placed on opposite sides of the screen as a visual cue

Dfs = chaos, llh = agent of order

Llh femme presenting for a very heteronormative appearing sect and storyline while dfs is extremely masculine/heteronormative appearing, but at the helm of a sect that is full of fringe elements and is potentially queer

regarding personal health - llh uses risk percentage as an excuse to not try to heal himself – meanwhile dfs will take any risk to heal himself even if it means he dies

Dfs rescued himself as a child while llh is picked up and nurtured by others

Dfs is a self-taught genius while llh is a trained genius

Dfs survives so hard he doesn’t understand what it means to want to die, llh wants to disappear so badly that he doesn’t understand what it means to desire to live

Oh right, and the thing I didn’t mention before. Not only does DFS live in the narrative. DFS is narratively bound to llh. He is not and was never independent of llh. Not due to lack of skill or for want of trying, dfs is narratively incapable of succeeding at his greatest goals without llh’s help – or ultimately fails due to llh’s actions. Either outcome, llh is involved.

He leaves the story when LLH does (disappearing into the ocean after the Donghai Battle) and returns to the narrative (leaves seclusion) the very moment FDB forces LLH to become active again and LLH starts moving to tie up loose ends.

His attempt for establishing peace was destroyed by Shan Guado and Jiao Liqiao, yes, but it ultimately fails because lxy declares war and ‘kills’ him. It takes LLH revealing himself to everyone and establishing events for things to quiet down.

Unable to reach the guanyin elixir without llh’s help

Unable to figure out the secret behind shan gudao’s death and the war between their sects without llh’s cooperation

Succeeds in finding the styx flower, not for himself, but for llh’s benefit

Unable to reach the next level of Beifeng Baiyang without help from llh and Yangzhou Man

Continuously bids for freedom and agency – but his first attempt is foiled by not being able to get rid of the mind control bug. Then during the amnesia arc, his ‘freedom’ from his enemies comes at the cost of being kept by llh as a servant. Then as soon as he was able to get rid of the mind control bug, he’s captured by jlq and his freedom/autonomy is taken away again. If the narrative was a sentient being – it’s watching him claw his way up the side of a mountain and every time he almost reaches the top, it chops his hand or fingers off to send him flying back down below. Ultimately, DFS is only able to regain physical and mental freedom when llh rescues him and choses to give him that freedom (see amnesia arc where llh tries to keep dfs as his servant/weapon).

Cure llh/save his life – ultimately stopped by llh’s actions.

Simply put – while llh exists without dfs. As far as the narrative is concerned, dfs does not exist without llh. Jinyuan Alliance is replaced completely by Shan Gudao as the bad guys in the story. (Which he was- but there is no mention of DFS or the alliance's roles - everything is attributed to lxy's heroism and return from the dead.)

So what happens post canon in a world where llh is dead? What then? We have fdb, right?

I’ve been bothered by this – and as much as I go on about how fdb is the future of the story. That he’s the inheritor of everything llh, including dfs... There is no guarantee of anything because he’s the guy that writes his own story and transforms his narrative.

We get the bit of bonding with each other in the zombie village when llh deliberately leaves them alone with each other (could this be an example of llh facilitating emotional bonds between the two?). We get fdb’s sense of betrayal later on when he thinks dfs turned on them. And then later his happiness when he realizes dfs was on their side. We get him calling dfs Lao Di. But then we have the moment at the eastern sea with the letter - where we get him running off to investigate alone until both men just happen to arrive at the beach at the same time from opposite directions. Because fate, I guess. I think dfs and fdb’s relationship is meant to be a 50/50 swing by design because we don't know the future and Fdb is ultimately the catalyst for whatever direction the story goes.

As two men who loved the same man and who tried their best but ultimately failed to keep llh alive, will he care enough about dfs to maintain ties with him or… just… walk away after saying his goodbyes --- you know, they way they often do in jainghu.

So just for speculation’s sake. Let’s say, with no additional input or relationship development. Let’s say they take the second route and go their separate ways. FDB doesn’t reach out further to DFS and DFS never tries to find fdb for a replacement fight. They never try to bridge that llh-shaped gap.

This is where we come to the third thing – Narratively, dfs’ purpose is to remind llh of the true past and to provide information or vehicles for him in his quest to address that past.

So what does that mean for dfs when LLH dies? Dfs, as a survivor, cannot physically do the same. How will he die narratively? Imo, with the way his movements mirror llh's and his role for llh, it makes sense that dfs will do what llh did - he goes back to where he was in the past. He returns to the beginning.

And from there? Maybe, DFS returns to seclusion, or a form of seclusion at least, once again in mourning. Because otherwise what else does he have left that holds meaning for him? Jinyuan Alliance? Whatever remnants remain... he never cared about it and I’d argue that at the very start of the series, he was already 1-foot out the door with retiring from leadership. Strength was freedom – he has both, so now what? Power and skill? The one person he wants to fight is gone.

DFS goes away. Days become months, become years and life continues on. New heroes and villians will rise and fall. And one day, fdb will remember he used to know a powerful guy. Whatever happened to him? And the people around him will shrug. Some may even be young enough to be like, “Who?” FDB lets it go because he’s a busy man. He’s got businesses to run, students to train, etc – can you blame him? His life is full. Eventually, he forgets he ever asked a question.

This is how the last living piece of dfs in the worlds’ consciousness dies. He fades away from memory, absentmindedly.

Maybe one day, a student or scholar will crack open a book about the history of li xiangyi and if they don't skim, they’ll come across a line or two talking about some guy that fought lxy that one time and ultimately failed to kill him. Maybe they will be motivated enough to look further into him, maybe not.

Llh remains alive as a memory – his legacy kept alive by fdb who’s his student and his students’ students. Sigu Sect and Baichuan Court remain as pillars of society.

DFS? Who is there to remember him? Who is there to see how his story ends? Does it matter? Who is DFS without llh?

There are plants that exist without their natural pollinators or creatures that eat their fruit because they are so ancient, those creatures no longer exist. We only know what they potentially look like based on the shape of the flower/plant/tree.. They survive because they have evolutionarily figured out stopgap measures to make up for the deaths of their pollinators. But one day those measures will no longer work. Stopgaps only buy time. That plant exists as a living memory of something that used to exist and then one day it too will die.

DFS is like that remaining plant.

You know that question about whether a tree exists if no one is there to hear them fall in the woods?

Now, here is me, getting a leg cramp in the audience. I’ve always loved the antagonists, the monster-shaped beings that weren’t really monsters inside, and all the random side characters that fall off the story one after another. I’ve always bothered the hell out of everyone bc I’m the person going “So what about x? What about y? Where is z now?”

So consider this me asking – in a story where his existence is swallowed by a narrative that no longer needs him - what about dfs? Where is he now? What is he doing now?

#But here's the thing. This is about dfs. I like to think that one day the story picks up again w/ a rich young shaoye and a guy named a-fei #they argue in the street constantly to the amusement of all the aunties #but everyone knows to go to them if your cat ends up in a tree or you lose anything or if someone mysteriously dies and the yamen ignore it #Or if your sister gets sold. She'll be back on your doorstep the next day with enough money for you to run away with her and start anew #mysterious lotus casebook #di feisheng #my royal ramblings #meta #li lianhua #fang duobing #me and my insomnia induced shitty takes

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owls-ocs · 7 days

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Lily!

#Artnatomy errors included #ID in Alt #Described #Lily #Lily Jones #wait. huh. that’s already a tag #OC: Lily #OC #OCs #Dragon #Dragon OC #OC Dragon #technically I could tag this as wyvern?#cuz his species has legs #he was just born without them #look at Lotus and Layla for example #wyvern #Lotus and Layla are his sisters :3 #he’s their baby brother

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difeisheng · 6 months

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regarding yu hongzhu and jiao liqiao: i think it's so fascinating that we have these two women left standing who were both put in positions of high status below di feisheng, and who should hate each other now for their pasts. yu hongzhu is the last of the twelve guardians thanks to jiao liqiao, and jiao liqiao would never let her go for her proximity to the man she was obsessed with. and yet, by the present day, these two have still been bound in some kind of relationship by their loyalty to di feisheng for over ten years.

why did jiao liqiao let yu hongzhu live, after all her sisters in jinyuanmeng were dead? was it because her usefulness in protecting di feisheng in seclusion won out over jiao liqiao's jealousy? was it because yu hongzhu had a husband and another lover already, and therefore she wouldn't care to compete for di feisheng too? did jiao liqiao threaten yu hongzhu with killing yu qiushuang, held over her head anytime yu hongzhu considered putting her life in the present over that of her master's? how many times did yu hongzhu want revenge on jiao liqiao, only to hold herself back, because her duty to the alliance and its survival had to come first?

it's circling one another in a vicious dance. you can't kill her, but you can never forget. yet you're twisted together by devotion to another, by the years sacrificed (years lost), by the forging of yourselves into something so sharp in blade and tongue in a man's wulin so that all of them save for the one you serve look at you and react only with fear.

and so, the natural conclusion to all of this, of course, is that these two should hatefuck about it.

#i think it's interesting if it's mutual loyalty to di feisheng but one is romantic and one is platonic #also i adore the potential tragic irony of jlq threatening to kill yqs but it was yhz who was complicit in killing her sister in the end #and ok tbf the guardians thing is slightly retconned later when dfs says all of them are dead in episode 31 #but i am choosing to interpret that as yhz having been executed by that point #anyways guys i promise i thought this rarepair through and there's a lot to chew on. join me here #mysterious lotus casebook #jiao liqiao #yu hongzhu #ashton originals

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crossdressingdeath · 2 years

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Whenever I see JZX/WWX fics, they always put a smile on my face because not only do I think that they would be a good ship other than Wangxian but I think that WWX has a lot more to offer than JYL.

For me it's not so much that WWX has more to offer than JYL (he does, but that's largely because she's a secondary character whose only major character trait is being Blandly Nice while he's the protagonist; they're not exactly written on an equal level of character depth) as it is that... frankly, even knowing that JZX and JYL end up together JZX and WWX just... makes more sense. I mean, JZX seems to dislike WWX and JYL in equal measure when they're young, so they start on fairly equal footing, but JZX and WWX do seem to have... you know, some morals in common? Like how JZX clearly is against the rich getting to take credit for the lower class's work! Which he explicitly accuses JYL of doing! So that's clearly something that his knowledge of her leads him to believe she'd do! And frankly considering JYL's consistent siding with the sects and especially JC over WWX and the Wens even when she sees how desperate and helpless they are in the face of the rich and powerful spreading lies about them... yeah! I can definitely see why he'd expect her to steal credit from a poor person to make herself look better! (Whether she actually would is largely immaterial in this case, because she does give the sense that she would do that and that's all JZX is working off of.) And it's JZX who actually goes out to bring WWX to JL's one month celebration, which I can only assume is because it occurred to him that the cultivation world's number one enemy might have a better chance of actually getting there and attending the celebration without violence if an heir to a great sect accompanies him? I mean, it's not like WWX doesn't know where Lanling is or that JZX would think he couldn't handle himself in a fight, so presumably it's related to the danger WWX would be face from the sects on his way.

Basically if you look at these three characters on the level of their fundamental beliefs, attitudes and personality traits, JZX and WWX have a lot more in common with each other than either of them do with JYL. It doesn't help that their only real beef with each other is over JYL herself; if she wasn't in the picture they might not like each other (especially as teenagers, when they're both pretty hotheaded and quick to pass judgement, particularly against each other), but they wouldn't hate each other. There are the bones of a very strong rivals-to-lovers story between JZX and WWX! You can see just looking at their characterization and and actions how they could have come to care very deeply for each other, either as friends or romantic partners, given the chance! Certainly they seem to have a certain... grudging mutual respect for each other by the time JZX dies, and frankly one of the only changes CQL made that I like (if I ignore how it makes JZX's death completely illogical given what caused it...) is it actually showing them growing to care about each other on some distant, begrudging level. Meanwhile JZX... doesn't respect or like JYL, and definitely doesn't love her. And then he does, because the story demands it. I've seen people talking about how the two of them come to see their shared morals or whatever, but... what shared morals? All we see JYL do to prove that she gives a single, solitary shit about people who don't fit into the neat and tidy box of "rich, high-class cultivator" is... visit WWX exactly one time after he no longer fits into the box he's supposed to. And then treat him like he's the problem for not wanting to let innocent people die just because it would be more convenient for JC, while doing nothing to help the Wens, the people WWX is doing all this for. And even that is after he's supposedly fallen head-over-heels for her, so it didn't have an impact on that. And before anyone brings it up, because people always bring it up like it's the magic eraser that undoes over a decade of her consistently taking her rich jackass of a brother's side over the victim of his actions who she supposedly loves as an equal to said brother: yeah, yeah, "sHe DiEs FoR hIm!" I know. That doesn't count for anything here because JZX is dead when that happens and so logically it would not affect his view of her. ...And also it was stupid and pointless and only necessary because of her own idiotic actions (if she just hadn't been there WWX wouldn't have been in danger of dying to start with!) and made everything worse for everyone in the long run (and also the short run) so I really don't see why people talk like it answers every complaint against her actions.

Anyway! Now that I've once again successfully pissed off the JYL stans: I'll be honest, I genuinely see no reason for JZX to fall for JYL, considering what his issues with a relationship with her actually... are. The only thing that's really changed since he was snapping at WWX and JC for refusing to grasp why he might possibly not want to marry their pErFeCt sister is that... his parents are no longer forcing him into it. JYL hasn't actually changed from the bland, boring, largely-useless-as-a-sect-leader's-wife girl who was happy to marry him even knowing he didn't want that and only seems to have bothered to try to endear herself to him after marrying him was no longer a guarantee. He's grown and changed from an arrogant hothead to someone who clearly does care about those with less power than himself on at least some level and wants to do the right thing! She... really hasn't changed from the person who always takes the side of the rich and powerful over the downtrodden and desperate. MXTX spent infinitely more time on explaining why JZX doesn't want anything to do with JYL than she does on explaining why his opinion changes, and frankly neither of them have the necessary compatible character depth for it to really make sense without explanation, at least to me. Meanwhile JZX and WWX... actually have a lot in common! I would've liked the story to go into that more, honestly.

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