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mydairpercabeth · 2 months

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The revisionist history of these live action remakes needs to be studied. The amount of people who are saying the PJO movies and the M Night Shyamalan movie that shall not be named are better than the current live action shows is absurd. People immediately shut down at the prospect of changes to the plot, get mad at exposition, then get mad when they don’t pick up on story lines and characterization. Then they say that the objectively terrible cash grab movies are better than the new shows where creators obviously love the source material and want to pay homage to it. And don’t get me started on the terrible treatment both casts have received, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN! People need to grow up. Im not saying you have to like the shows but saying theyre worse than those movies is wild.

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saijspellhart · 2 months

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Things I liked about the Netflix ATLA and some critiques:

Before you read. Please go watch the series, take off your blinders and keep an open mind. It’s surprisingly good. This review has spoilers.

They reordered some scenes so that emotional moments would have a larger pay off. Like getting to see and experience Aang’s relationship with Monk Gyatsu, and seeing his tribe before it was destroyed. So when he has his breakdown in the air temple with Sokka and Katara later, you really feel and understand his agony.

Azula is introduced earlier, with a story running simultaneously with the Aang’s journey but not involved with his. So she has a chance to be more fleshed out and explored before she becomes a major threat. Only time will tell if this more complicated Azula comes close to the animated one. Big shoes to fill, but not a bad start.

Fire Lord Ozai plays a more sinister and oppressive role. Not a faceless boogeyman anymore. You get to see his machinations and the cruel games he’s playing with his family, and see the emotional abuse that warps them.

Appa is adorable as fuck, and so is Momo. So well animated, such gorgeous care put into them.

Kyoshi, Kuruk, and Roku make more of an appearance. With Kyoshi narrating the prologue. And if you loved the novels you’ll see they incorporated more of Kyoshi and Kuruk’s backstory from the novels than what we saw in the animated cartoon.

The acting was competent, even if a little wonky at times. I found Sokka very endearing, I loved the kid they cast as Aang and you can tell they really tried to find a balance between serious and playful. They didn’t always hit it, but the effort was there.

Zuko was great. I think they nailed him and he had great chemistry with the actor playing Iroh.

King Bumi was great, I love how they made his internal struggles more complex. He wasn’t just a crazy old man anymore. He was a crazy old man who was weary and worn down by the horrors of loss and war. A crazy old man who struggled to reconcile that the best friend he lost is the avatar and wasn’t there for him.

I loved the costume and set design. It was like stepping into the actual world of ATLA. Cities were complex and well constructed. Every setting was incredible and the attention to detail was intense.

Zuko’s boat is full of artifacts he pilfered from the Air Nomads while hunting for the avatar.

They changed how Aang got the bison whistle so it makes more sense and fits more seamlessly into the story. It never made sense why a random peddler would be selling a bison whistle if air nomads and bison have been gone for 100 years. Not impossible for a peddler to do, but not probable. The Netflix series actually gave more meaning for the artifact and changed how Aang received it.

Emotional points in the show are now more intense and brought me to tears.

Commander Zhao is more competent and conniving, and his presence felt more dangerous and less comedic.

Sokka’s outright sexism was changed from putting girls down, to just manly machismo, talking himself up. Not gone, but not degrading. They decided to let the sexism message shine more prominently with the northern water tribe, rather than tackle it twice with Sokka too. (Sokka’s sexism being solved in one episode was never well written to begin with. And the animated series quickly forgot about it and moved on to him tackling more important issues, like his being a non bender inadequacy, his leadership journey, his physical combat journey, and him finding himself as more than just the funny sarcastic guy.) For time constraints, it was better the Netflix series did not to tackle the same problem twice, especially when you might not have the resources to give both sexism issues the gravity it deserves. By focusing the sexism problem to the northern water tribe they were able to give Katara more attention.

We got to see Katara’s water-bending go from being ultra sloppy and weak to badass. It feels like they are spending more time focusing on her developing into a warrior rather than being the mom of the group. I’m honestly not sad about it. She’s still the hope ridden, emotional glue, but now it feels like she explores that warrior side a little deeper. It felt so earned when she got the title of master at the northern water tribe finale.

The actor playing uncle Iroh nailed the role. I couldn’t think of a better live action adaptation of Iroh. I love him so much.

The shirshu looks fucking phemonal.

Koh was scary as fuck and I love it. They really nailed his horror elements. Even if I’m a little sad that they changed some things about his face stealing. (He eats faces now to steal them, rather than stealing when someone shows emotion.)

The three actresses who play Mei, Azula and Tailee actually look appropriate for their age. Since they are introduced earlier, they are clearly younger, and since this show is intended to get more seasons, the casting choice made sense as we are intended to watch these girls grow up over the course of the entire show. These actors will get older, and the characters will get more menacing and sharper. It’s great. It’s thoughtful. I love it.

We get to see Zuko’s dynamics with his crew more. And find out that he did more than just speak out against his father at that meeting. His outburst at that meeting saved an entire squad of soldiers, and they don’t even know it. Zuko feels such disdain and bitterness because of the situation, and his crew doesn’t even know why. It’s so complex, you can see how the abuse Zuko endured causes him to take out his anger on his crew, and in turn they are bitter back. And it’s this cycle, that festers. But the crew also grows with Zuko, they change and evolve as he evolves. And it’s such a delight to watch.

They could have cut the Secret Tunnel minstrels altogether, given the time constraints and that the episode was mostly fluff in season two. A fun romp, but not necessary. But the creators knew people loved the minstrels so they found a way to use them anyway. Because they knew they were special. I am thankful for that, even if they show up waaay earlier than they should.

I was honestly more sold on Sokka and Suki’s relationship in the live action. It’s was so adorkable. Do I wish it had more time to develop? Yeah, of course I love a good slow burn. But that didn’t mean it wasn’t fun as hell watching the two flirt so badly with each other. Sokka being a buffoon, and Suki overstepping and being too rough, before realizing she was being too hard.

Some Critiques:

They reordered some episode storylines to happen at the same time, and while it does bloat some episodes. it’s understandable due the episode and budget limitations. In the cartoon, during the inventor episode Katara didn’t have a lot to do, and during the freedom fighters episode Sokka didn’t have a lot to do. So they ended up combining both stories into one hour long episode in the live action, so that both Katara and Sokka would be involved in something. Is it the best? No. But it makes sense. I get it.

Katara starts off bland in the first episode and it takes a bit for her to grow into the character.

The past avatars can be a bit strong with the doom and gloom, and I wish they’d toned that back.

Koh and Heibei (I dunno how to spell the panda spirit’s name) got combined to the same episode, and Koh stole Heibei’s spotlight. Again, I understand why these got combined, but I think it could have been handled a little better and Heibei should have gotten more closure.

There should have been a ninth episode, placed between the two episode Koh storyline, and the Northern Water Tribe storyline. Why? Because the Koh storyline was really heavy and intense. And it leads right into the season finale. An extra ninth episode should have been added with a more lighthearted tone. Something to ease the tension between the two very intense storylines.

Aang should have been using a glider to flit about the temples in the first episode. But it’s not something that ruins the whole show. It was a dumb that only happens in a single episode in the season.

I really missed Momo and Appa’s presence. They appeared atleast once in every episode, but it was still sad they weren’t more of a presence. Again I understand why. They were so beautifully animated that everytime they were on screen it (without a doubt) cost the production thousands of dollars. They were generous including as many of the unique animals and creatures as they had.

I still don’t think Sokka had enough time to develop a relationship with Yue at the northern water tribe. It was rushed and contrived in the animated version, and it was rushed and contrived in this Netflix version. There also wasn’t any of the chemistry like Sokka had with Suki to make the whirlwind romance work. I never liked the romance from the original, and I wasn’t a fan of it here. But that’s ok, because it’s such a small and insignificant thing.

In conclusion most of the changes I can see made were due to budget, and episode limitations. The creators were clearly trying to bring theater-cinematic quality to what was essentially an eight hour long film. And you cannot deny that this show is stunning. Absolutely breathtaking. Most of the episodes cut were filler, and while hilarious and mostly loved by fans, were stories not as necessary in the grand scope. You could feel the love and appreciation the creators included in this series. It wasn’t soulless, it wasn’t a heartless cash grab, it wasn’t a shot for shot (thank god) but it also didn’t butcher the source material.

I understand that the animated show creators had creative differences with the live action Netflix adaptation creators. But that doesn’t mean that the Netflix series completely failed. As every fanfic writer out there knows, the original authors are not going to love what you create based on their works. Tolkien hated every adaptation of his works, HATED them. But no one is going about saying that the Lord of the Rings trilogy movies were hot garbage. A creator doesn’t have to endorse a project for it to be good.

Netflix ATLA is good, it’s not perfect. And it never was going to be perfect. The cartoon it was based on wasn’t perfect either. But the ATLA cartoon was definitely some huge shoes to fill that set a bar very high. Any adaptation was going to struggle to be just as good.

I think the Netflix adaptation was a treat and a pleasure to watch. I think people should go into it with an open mind and see that it’s not trying to replace the cartoon. It’s a love letter to the cartoon.

PS: According to behind the scenes commentary on the Nickelodeon ATLA cartoon, the reason we didn’t get a season 4 was because the creators wanted a live action film. Nickelodeon offered the original cartoon creators the option to make season 4 or to spend the budget meant for season four on a live action ATLA film. The original creators chose the live action film directed by M. Night Shamalan. They wanted a live action for their show over a 4th season. They had no idea M. night would butcher their baby with his pathetic film all those years ago.

This show was a second chance after the M. night abomination. And you know what? It’s a pretty decent adaptation. And guess what? With a resurgence of interest in the series, we are getting more animated content for the original animated series. There’s definitely something for everyone on the horizon if this succeeds.

#netflix atla #avatar the last airbender #atla #live action adaptation #live action avatar #review #my thoughts #positive #loved it #it was great #go watch it #recommendation #pros and cons #a thoughtful and positive breakdown from someone who is generally picky and pessimistic about adaptations #spoilers #many spoilers

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starz-n-stuff · 2 months

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Okay so I just managed to finish watching the new live action ATLA series and all I see is people getting mad about changes and this and that but I’m here to talk about my FAVOURITE change made.

The 41st division that Zuko saved being his crew on the ship. I L o v e that to no end. Just the fact that Zuko saved their lives entirely and yeah they’re kinda banished with him but they would be dead otherwise and ahhhh my gods it’s amazing. I think it’s an amazing addition to the story and I’m glad it was put there.

Sure I didn’t agree with some of the other changes but keeping in mind that it’s difficult to adapt cartoon to live action and that a lot of the original episodes when the show was coming out were fillers I think they did well including as much as they could even if it was put in the background. Like that one pub scene you can hear a patron mention that the avatar defeated the canyon crawlers or something along those lines.

Cabbage man was incredible as always 🥬✨

#avatar the last airbender #atla #avatar the legend of aang #live action #live action adaptation #netflix the last airbender #avatar #zuko #prince zuko #changes #41st division addition

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kuravix · 9 months

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Live action Sanji not have curls means Zoro has lost a chunk of his insults.

But Sanji... He's British... He's just gained a whole lot more to throw!

Poor mossy Zoro.

#roronoa zoro #sanji #zosan #please let sanji swear it would be so good #i'm sorry zoro #one piece live action #live action adaptation

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giveamadeuschohisownmovie · 8 months

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Crack theory: Since Netflix was determined to nail the “One Piece” live action adaptation, they wanted to make sure they hit all the necessary anime-isms (crazy fight scenes, strange hair, power of friendship, etc). However, when Netflix realized that gratuitous fanservice is also an anime-ism, they realized that they needed to tread lightly to avoid backlash and accusations of misogyny from general audiences. So, Netflix decided to give us fanservice with a character that won’t generate any controversy.

That’s why we got Helmeppo ass.

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valenteal · 2 months

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I stayed up till 2 am so I could watch the new live action atla when it came out and I watched 5 episodes straight. I’m sleepy so imma keep this short but I just have to say:

Wow. It’s perfect. In every way. I love it. The casting, costumes, computer graphics, writing, acting, sets… everything is perfect. The changes that have been made to save time, condense everything, are done so well, because while it shrinks the time and number of arcs it also builds on everything more! The places have more people who are actually important to the story instead of being so spread out and they interact and help create a more complex tapestry behind the story line. They did such a great job with Omashu, they took like 4 different iconic avatar arcs and combined them masterfully, staying true in the ways that really count while also improving it and creating a richer and fuller world! I can’t wait to watch the next three episodes but I should probably wait until I’m awake enough to appreciate them lol good night

#avatar the last airbender #atla #live action atla #live action avatar #live action adaptation #netflix #review #my thoughts

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maris-medley · 3 months

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Live-action ATLA Trailer Spoilers!!!

He didn’t ramble about his honor for fifteen minutes. Not my Zuko. 0/10 unwatchable.

#avatar #avatar the last airbender #atla #the last airbender #zuko #prince zuko #atla zuko #live action #live action atla #live action avatar #live action adaptation #netflix #netflix atla #netflix avatar #netflix adaptation #dallas liu #/j

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clinically-not-straight · 8 months

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Explaining that the creation of a live action adaptation of an animated series massively downplays animation as an art form is tiring. The answer I got in return was "you just don't like things because they're popular" and that's wrong because I kinda liked the look of live action one piece, but after that comment, I don't wanna watch it.

Creating a live action adaptation of anything, especially when on netflix for whatever reason, feels like a disrespect towards the original work because people will often regard the live action one as the definitive version because its obviously for a more mature audience, that can watch mature stuff and understand mature stuff because they're mature.

#i really think that animation is a hugely under-appreciated art form #like everyone knows what it is. they've seen tom and jerry etc #but so few people know what goes into it #the mechanics #the everything #animation #one piece #live action #live action adaptation #adaptation

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redsamuraiii · 1 month

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Himitsu no Hanazono / The Secret Garden (Ep 7)

A comic writer who doesn't trust show producers that want to do a live adaptation of his comics as he believe they just want to exploit his creation and franchise to earn quick money from his popular comics.

#himitsu no hanazono #the secret garden #shaku yumiko #hongo kanata #yumiko shaku #kanata hongo #japanese drama #j drama #jdrama #dorama #asian drama #japan #comic adaptation #live action adaptation

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khuantru · 8 months

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Episode 1 of 'One Piece' is surprisingly good. It kind of makes me want to actually invest time in checking out the pre existing anime shows & movies. I wonder what the dedicated 'one piece' fan base thinks of this live adaptation?

#One Piece #anime #manga #live action adaptation #netflix

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lrvsroq · 2 months

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i know that live action adaptations are 98% horrid and should not happen but my hot take is they should continue happening because i love when it’s good/bad the fandom reawakens for a resurgence and we all get to talk and rant about the original - whilst also complaining or praising (usually complaining) about the new version. like idk either way it brings more attention to the og version

— obviously i like when the live action is actually good because it benefits everyone ! like pjo 🫶

#is this a hot take idk?#live action #live action adaptation #atla #pjo #the last of us #barbie #disney #agggtm #httyd #mcu #shows #film

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kuravix · 9 months

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So as you've likely noticed, the live action Straw Hat's have been wearing additional outfits based on East Blue saga colour spreads. Everyone but Sanji that is. Here are all the potential outfits he could wear.

#sanji #one piece live action #one piece #live action adaptation #rooting for pink cowboy hat #and chef outfit #one of the reasons my friend got into op was because they really liked the chef hat #they thought it was an outfit he would wear in the series #would be nice for them if it made an appearance here

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giveamadeuschohisownmovie · 8 months

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Lessons to learn from HBO’s “The Last of Us” and Netflix’s “One Piece” when it comes to making a successful live-action adaptation:

1) Make sure the original creator has a ton of creative control. It’s their story, let them dictate how it should be re-told.

2) The showrunner should be a major fan of the original. In general, get writers and directors who are fully committed to doing the source material justice since they’re fans of it.

3) Doesn’t have to be 100% faithful. Changes are fine if it doesn’t hurt the overall story and actually improves on the original. For example, (SPOILER ALERT) Bill’s storyline in TLOU was overhauled completely, which was considered an improvement. And based on what I read from One Piece fans, Buggy the Clown was done better in live action and Zoro was set up better since the show used a scene that wasn’t in the anime or manga (the Mr. 7 stuff was apparently off-screen).

4) Casting is always key, but doesn’t have to be completely perfect. What’s important is that the actors understand their assignments. Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey don’t exactly look like Joel and Ellie (Pedro even has a different accent) but they make up for it with their chemistry and understanding of their characters. Meanwhile, I feel that’s it’s generally agreed that the cast for the Straw Hats Pirates captured the spirit of the characters, even with the minor changes that were made.

5) If you’re adding original content, make sure it adds to the story. For example, the already mentioned Mr. 7 scene and Frank actually being present during Bill’s storyline.

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