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dilscft · 9 months
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Team Jeremiah, how are you feeling?
They're soulmates. The way she just stops him cause she waited the whole night to tell him that she loves him and chooses him. The way he just smiles and they lean to each other. Those little kisses after passionate one just say that they can't get enough of each other. The way he picks her up🥺🫂. They're each others person!
S2 is the final season for me! If s3 will have different ending, I won't watch it and won't consider it as Canon, cause you can't convince me they didn't end up together after such characters' growth!
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escapismqueen · 9 months
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Why I’m team Jelly
Something about Belly and Jeremiah makes so much sense to me. They just ‘flow’. Idk if that’s the right word, but it’s how I see them. Everything with them seems natural and easy, like they don’t have to try with each other, they just are.
I do understand why the Team Conrad people want to see them together (in some ways) but in my opinion, Jeremiah is the right choice for endgame and is Belly’s future.
Conrad was Belly’s first love. He was the older brother who was always sweet to her and who she harboured a crush for, for so many years. But Jeremiah’s the love that’s always been there. He’s the love that all of a sudden hits her in the face and she goes ‘how has it taken me this long to see it?’. Jeremiah is the boy who stayed at home with her for a week because she was sick and he didn’t want her to be alone. He’s the boy she stayed home for when he got sick too. He’s the boy she would run with to the beach with and play in the water. The boy who she knows “better than any boy”. She’s the girl who makes him feel seen (which only his mum and belly do). He’s the guy that will ‘always come and get her’. No matter at what stage Belly was in in her life, wether she was going on a date with someone or if she was little and was going to be home alone sick, Jeremiah pushed his own feelings aside, and chose to be there for her.
Maybe it’s only me seeing this as someone with a soft spot for Jelly, but everything seems less awkward with Jeremiah than it does with Conrad. Don’t get me wrong, there’s been more than a few moments with belly and Conrad where I’ve been like ‘omg that’s so cute’, but there’s also a slight awkwardness there sometimes. But I’ve never felt that there’s been an awkward moment between Belly and Jeremiah. Even when they were in the car together after not speaking for months, it was quiet and there was a tension, but it was never awkward.
They have such best friends to lovers energy and they have most importantly endgame energy. My only hope is that they show more of Belly feeling love for Jeremiah and not just Conrad. Because it’s so obviously there, so I need to see more of it. That boy means the world to her, and I’d like to actually see that shown more than it is.
Idc what anyone says, the relationship that Belly and Jeremiah have is so much healthier than with her and Conrad. Jelly communicates with each other, they tell each other how they feel and the love they have for each other (and I’m not just talking about romantic here) never falters, no matter the situation. Conrad seems to give affection and then pull away. He’s more talk than walk, whereas Jeremiah is more walk than talk. I know Conrad suffers with his mental health, and as someone who does as well, I can sympathise with him and understand why he does some of the things he does. But are we going to sit here and say that Jeremiah doesn’t suffer with his too ? I feel like people forget that Jeremiah has also lost his Mother. And he was there watching it happen, he saw her slipping away, that surely has had a huge impact on him. Not to mention that whilst it was happening, the girl that he was in love with was dating his brother, and he stood back and let it happen because he wanted both his Brother and Belly to be happy.
The entire scene with Belly and Jeremiah at the college sums them up for me. The montage of them giving each other piggyback rides and twirling each other around, Jeremiah tucking Belly’s hair behind her ear (did anyone else notice that when Conrad did that, she pulled away and asked him if she had something on her face, but when Jeremiah did it, she didn’t even flinch ? just saying 👀) the montage radiated nothing but complete joy, happiness and love and affection. And even in the serious moments, like when they talked about the future, Belly planned it with Jeremiah in it. And say what you want, but she didn’t plan it as ‘friends’ she was planning that future as a ‘we’, as a couple.
When Belly was at home and looking through the pictures of the boys and Susannah, clearly upset and missing them, it’s Jeremiah she called, despite them not having spoken in months. When it comes to belly’s struggles, she will always call Jeremiah for help. Always. And when it comes to Jeremiah’s, Belly is the only one that makes him feel better. Always. They just work. (Thinks if the tower of terror scene)
I just don’t want Belly to get back together with Jeremiah, only for her to then break his heart again. She clearly wants him, so let’s keep it that way, I am begging. Jeremiah deserves the world and Belly is his world. And Belly deserves the love she’s always craved (and without even noticing it at the time, Jeremiah is the love she’s always craved). She built Conrad up in her head, she gave him traits that she wanted him to have because she loved him, she gave him chance after chance because she loved him. But that true love, happiness fairly tale that she’s always imagined, that’s Jeremiah, and now is the time for her to notice that (as it seems she has) and to STAY thinking that.
I know how the book ends, and before anyone asks, no I haven’t read them. But I really do hope that they change the ending for the show. Jelly is a pure love. It’s a true love. They’re ‘real’ in the words of Belly. I’ve said this on someone’s post before, but the song Daylight by Taylor swift is very Jelly coded. The lyrics ‘I once believed love would be burning red, but it’s golden’ sums it up. Conrad was Belly’s burning red love. The love that yes, was deep and meaningful, but was also complicated and painful. Jeremiah is her golden love; also deep and meaningful, but the love that’s bright, one that makes her happy and is just easy. She never has to question herself around him, she can just be Belly.
And whilst im at it, I’ve seen a lot of discourse of people calling Belly a ‘bad person’ and I feel the need to stick up for her here. Has she made some mistakes ? Yes. Questionable ones ? Yes. But she’s a teenage girl for gods sake. Are you telling me that your teenage self has never made a questionable decision ? Are you telling me that your teenage self had never hurt someone ? Belly is young and has two boys who clearly care about and love her wanting her. Boys who have been in her life always. Of course she’s going to be confused and make decisions that hurt someone. I’m not saying she’s never in the wrong, because of course she is, but so is everyone at some point in their life. Again, she’s a teenaged girl, give her a fucking break. I never see anyone calling the boys ‘bad people’ for the questionable choices they’ve made.
Anyway, Jeremiah is Belly’s person. And Belly is Jeremiah’s person. Enough said. And also, THAT kiss!
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suttonite · 8 months
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i did it!!! i wrote a whole chapter of my #jelly fic! check it out!
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lansangprincess · 8 months
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bc im curious,
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sarah-cam · 8 months
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This is the same anon that just messaged about Jeremiah/Conrad! I forgot to add sort of in the analysis Jelly/Bonrad and why you think one is "better" analysis-wise or even personal-preference-wise 😊
alright i’m going to start this with just my personal preference and then get into an analytical side. a lot of my opinions on the ships revolve around my opinions of conrad vs jeremiah, because a lot of the reasons i don't like jere have to do with jelly (that post is here)
again, i want to start this by saying that if you ship jelly that’s awesome for you but to be blunt lbr y’all are delulu if you genuinely believe that bonrad won’t be endgame 😂
jenny han spent several years and three books building the relationship between belly and conrad, and now two seasons of a show where not only are belly and conrad ALWAYS the underlying relationship, but conrad is imo clearly the lead male over jeremiah. he continuously has storylines outside of his relationship with belly, vs jere's focus pretty much only revolving around that so far. she’s not going to change the endgame… she’s just not 🤷🏻‍♀️
first things first — i don’t choose the ship, the ships choose me 🙏🏼 it’s pretty simple and probably is for a lot of people, i just get all the tingly feelings and that’s that
from that first slow motion walk up, the chemistry was CHEM👏🏼IS👏🏼TRY👏🏼ING👏🏼!!! lola and chris have such amazing chemistry in every single scene, even when they don’t even say anything, and that chemistry is romantic straight from that very first scene
and i will admit, lola and gavin have good chemistry too!! (lola honestly has such great, unique chemistry with every other actor) even though i have my issues with it, the scene between belly and jeremiah on the side of the road DID hit me in the feels. the issue for me though is that the vibes i get are just not romantic in the same way as it is with conrad, its bestie vibes. at the very least, they start the show with bestie vibes and romantic vibes "develop". it just feels forced in a way, especially since belly and conrad is just always there.
i should be able to see it - you shouldn't have to tell me. most notably, when trusky goes on that weird rant about their "vibes" when they were literally just standing next to each other, worrying about conrad, and jere was rolling his eyes about conrad being depressed over belly. they constantly talk about their "ESP" but when it comes time to show how well he knows her, it's not even just that he doesn't know her favorite candy is sour patch kids - he literally doesn't know that she hates swedish fish
taking some points from my conrad/jeremiah analysis, i don't like the way jeremiah is manipulative and constantly makes belly feel guilty for being happy or simply just existing next to conrad. rolling his eyes when she seems a little jealous of sophie and when she has a little smile when she learns conrad was staring at pictures of her, constantly eyeing them when belly worries about conrad in "love fool", interrupts them with an angry look when they talk in the store in "love fest", brings her up in his fight with conrad also in "love fest", keeps giving nasty looks in "love triangle" when conrad gives her his sweatshirt, the stuff with the candy, and when their hands BARELY touch at the motel. in that same lane, i just feel like he invalidates her feelings a lot, shames her for loving conrad, and dismisses/shuts her down when she tries to talk about it (which was funny when lola said in an interview that jere made belly feel more heard 😂 she's fighting for her life out there)
the episode with his narration was PAINFUL. i'm sorry but he gave off the biggest incel vibes. everything he said revolved around hating on conrad or victimizing himself, like "doesn't she know i would treat her so much better?? doesn't she know how much i want to be sitting next to her?? conrad had no right to date her after ignoring her for years." IT WAS GROSS. and also, not true. jere said himself that he started liking her after she 'turned pretty' which... i don't even believe. he only started liking her after he saw her almost kiss conrad. he is supportive of cam cameron and encourages their relationship. he's only jealous of conrad.
to conrad, this isn't a competition or a game. and if it was, he would voluntarily lose if it meant belly would be happy.
and in case you were still doubting the iconic soulmatism that only occurs in the ultimate endgames - here ya go!!
tropes: i found an amazing list laid out here and picked out some of the best ones
all girls want bad boys
anguished declaration of love (more so the 3rd book so it hasn't happened yet)
childhood friends/best friends to lovers (yes because conrad is ALSO her best friend)
childhood crush
everyone can see it
first love/first guy wins
i want my beloved to be happy
settle for sibling
single-target sexuality (conrad only ever loves belly and lbr she only ever truly loves him)
unrequited/secretly-requited love
music: like... come on... it's pretty clear (and before you bring up delicate, don't: "this ain't for the best" "we can't make any promises")
lover, "can we always be this close forever and ever?"
the way i loved you, "and i never knew i could feel that much"
this love, "these hands had to let it go free and this love came back to me"
false god, "we'd still worship this love"
august, "for me, it was enough to live for the hope of it all"
back to december, "it turns out freedom ain’t nothing but missing you"
last kiss, "i never thought we'd have a last kiss"
invisible string, "all along there was some invisible string tying you to me"
sweet nothing, "i find myself running home to your sweet nothings"
snow on the beach, "time can't stop me quite like you did"
exile, "we always walked a very thin line"
when the party's over, "i've learned to lose you, can't afford to"
drivers license, "how could i ever love someone else?
deja vu, "she thinks it's special but it's all reused"
never really over, "just because it's over doesn't mean it's really over"
steal my girl, "we want the same things we dream the same dreams"
i'm kissing you, "but watching stars without you my soul cried"
little things:
conrad was the only one growing up that ever included her
they have their own handshake in the volleyball game (vs belly teaching jere her and taylor’s)
he gets her meaningful presents (junior mint, glass unicorn, infinity necklace, bouquet of candy)
he always knows and gets her favorite things (muffins, candy)
they call each other all the time
he gives her his sweaters even when she says she's not cold, because he knows she doesn't mind the cold but likes being cozy
pictures of the two of them are constantly showed (belly's phone, her room, the polaroid)
conrad is the leader but they also look to belly as a leader too (deciding to throw the party, boardwalk, team belly/team conrad)
conrad cheers for steven to fight milo but breaks it up as soon as belly tells him to
always worrying about each other (conrad jumps in to defend laurel from adam when belly gets upset, she always looks to him first when something bad happens)
he can tell that she's awake in the motel because she isn't snoring
they have the same dream of the future (coming back to cousins)
and most of all, susannah, laurel, AND steven ship it 👑
parallels:
first off, the flashbacks typically mirror what's going on in present day and almost every flashback is of something important with conrad
the pool scenes with belly swimming while conrad has his feet in
she dreams of him kissing her in the beginning of s2 in the same way he kisses her when they are in front of the fireplace
they continuously have important scenes on the beach
he picks her up the same way the last time they were on the beach as a couple and the first time since their breakup
her wearing his cousins rowing shirt and then still having it, wearing his sweater/sweatshirt, wearing his t-shirt even when broken up
she brings up how he helped her with trig during 'shoot your shot'
he always plays with her hair/brushes it from her face
the infinity necklace and junior mint always being there
constant parallels to staylor (i made a post about them here), jenny has literally said that steven is taylor's conrad
quotes:
conrad - "i'm glad that it was me" "i do want you" "you're it for me" "my chest physically hurts to not be able to tell her that i'm in love with her" "i don't think i could ever get over you" "[you're cold-hearted] for everyone else maybe, not for you"
belly - "you were great" "being with you is all i'ver ever wanted" "i want it to be with you" "there's only you, there's only ever been you" "i was in love, steven, like, out of my mind in love" "he made it so hard not to love him" "i loved conrad longer and truer than anyone in my whole life" "i'll probably never love anyone like that again" "i would've fought for you" "i don't regret any of the times we were together"
laurel - "for belly, conrad is the sun, and when the sun comes out, the stars disappear", saying that a cozy campfire (jeremiah) is not enough compared to fireworks (conrad)
steven - "conrad's her soulmate"
susannah - "i knew it" "take care of him", the letters she's writing in her last scene
foreshadowing:
most obviously, infinity - like it's pretty hard to argue with. also, when conrad explains infinity he compares it to a racetrack, and at the boardwalk him and belly cross the finish line of the racetrack together
dancing - all of the times belly dances, it's with conrad. the deb ball dance especially foreshadows a first dance at a wedding
venus - it is an evening star before it disappears, and then it returns as a morning star. conrad disappears from her life before returning
belly flops - conrad is always holding her under the arms, by her heart
rollerblades - belly talks about her feelings for conrad being tucked away like her rollerblades, which came out of storage in s2
staylor - belly and taylor's conversation about forgetting first loves and then taylor immediately ignoring that and getting with steven... she's so real
deja vu - belly constantly sees things that remind her of conrad, especially when she is with jeremiah. the song literally plays while she's in the car with him. like again... "it's all reused" 😂
names- isabel susannah conklin and conrad beck fisher... talk about fate amirite
lighting - the motel scene... enough said
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loveinsomesacredplace · 6 months
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✨I do not give one single solitary fuck✨ about the TSITP books. I treat the show as its own separate canon. Show Belly (and Show Jeremiah) are the only ones I care about. Get this book 3 nonsense out of here. Show! Jelly is what I ship.
Stop conflating the two. Real tired of seeing my feral girl being dragged for shit that hasn’t even happened and may never happen.
This is a #teambelly & #teamjere friendly tumblr. If you’re anti-Belly, kindly gtfo. Mentions of Conrad and Belly/Conrad will be rare. Characters and actors within the context of the show ONLY.
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OK but I have to say this ... WHY do they look SO COOL??? Like bruh u a ship and you look badass together? ✔️✔️✔️
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Also btw they're holding heads yea yea
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bluegreysilkie · 1 year
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Have a jelly tart you dork
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TSITP 2x08 : Belly x Jeremiah.
Don't tell me those two don't have strong feelings for each other.
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alphinias · 9 months
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TSITP is already laying down the ground for bellyconrad endgame and jeremiah cheating situation. they’re only “winning this season” but the foreshadowing is already there:
1. Belly talking to Conrad and saying “if my dad had cheated on my mom, she probably wouldn’t even care” and Conrad being like “why wouldn’t Laurel have a reaction?” And Belly being “nothing about my dad really excited her”. This goes back to Season 1 and Laurel saying she loved John but it was safe like a “cozy campfire” that would keep her warm at night but never really gave her fireworks. Then she says someone did gave her fireworks once but it would have burned them alive (as Belly and Conrad right now that are dealing with too much and their love is to strong for this). This is Jer = campire Con = fireworks. Belly then asks if it didn’t work out with either, then how does she knows when it’s the right person to which Laurel responds that she’ll know when she wants to be with someone because nothing would matter and it would just feel right.
2. During that phone conversation with Conrad, Belly says “I just can’t imagine marrying some that didn’t give me fireworks. like electric jolts every time i saw them” to which Conrad agrees. That he wouldn’t marry someone that didn’t make him feel electric. Again, referencing Laurel’s conversation with Belly on Season 1.
There’s not reason why that conversation was even in there if it’s not to foreshadow the future. Every line in TV matters. I feel like Belly will be paralleling a lot from her parents relationship with Jeremiah by settling for a sense of blind safety mostly as a cover from Susannah’s death which is why she’s so in denial and holding onto their relationship on book 3. She will be getting into a relationship that doesn’t fully excite her and from Belly’s pov, you can tell her relationship with Jeremiah fully lost it’s spark long before the cheating occurred. One of the reasons I feel like Laurel didn’t want Belly to marry him is because she knew she was going to end up like her. Belly and Jeremiah would’ve ended up divorced for the same reasons Laurel and John did. But not even like 17 years in but way sooner then them.
Also how that Laurel speech is the same episode Jeremiah launches fireworks at Belly and Conrad to stop them from kissing out of spite to just seal the metaphor that Conrad is Belly’s fireworks.
3. After that conversation, Belly tells Conrad about her discovery. She tells him “Did you know Venus is an evening star for 263 days out of the year and then it disappears from the sky for 50 days before returning as a morning star for another 263 days out of the year. And right now it’s an evening star and it’s very bright next to the moon, actually I’m looking at it right now (…) i wish we were looking at it together”. This parallels the quote “For Belly, Conrad is the sun and when the sun comes out, all the stars disappear”. Venus was named after the goddess of love and beauty. And just the whole thing foreshadows that their love might go for a while but will never disappear because it will always return to them.
4. No one mentioned this but when Belly and Jeremiah were in that store picking up the cupcakes on 202, as Jeremiah walks away there’s a frame in front of just Belly in which you can see them selling peaches and pie – and we all know that book 3 bellyconrad scene involving a market and peaches.
5. Just the parallels, the references of their relationship, the song choices for both couples, the infinite necklace, the shirt, the change about Belly losing her virginity to Conrad.
6. Jeremiah referring to BellyConrad as having some “invisible string”. Also, let’s point out how Nikes by Frank Ocean played during a Belly and Jere scene last episode and it basically says “I’m not him but I’ll meant something too”.
7. And just since last season, when Belly and Conrad kissed, the song choice spelled their entire arc and I know it was intentional because it was cut in a way that you could hear: “This love is good this love is bad. This love is alive and back from the death. This hands had to let it go free and this love came back to me.” And “when you're young, you just run. but you come back to what you need”. The original song doesn’t follow that same line but bellyconrad songs are always cut in a way that foreshadows their arc. Just like how the lines used for The Way I Loved You foreshadows Season 2.
8. Conrad saying last episode that he seems himself in Cousins and the beach house in 10 years. That same house being the one he finally confesses to Belly, the one he lives in when they reconnect and the one they end up together and married at.
9. BellyConrad and StevenTaylor are Jenny’s endgames for sure and they’re paralleling each others arcs right now. With Taylor and Belly going onto that journey of wanting to “let go” of their first love only to realize they’re just settling for that type of love that it’s just easier because they are not that invested in it emotionally. It won’t hurt as much if you’re not truly in it. Jenny basically called Steven as “Taylor’s Conrad” so it makes sense why Taylors low key projecting on Belly right now.
Like, it’s not question bellyconrad is endgame. They are being written as the love story of the show and Jeremiah as the person getting in the way of that. “And unnecessary detour” as some reviewer called it. Everyone can see it except jellys that keep making their relationship deeper than it actually is. Jeremiah is clinging to belly as a way to cope with his mother’s death and so is she. And it will come back to bite them.
Couldn’t have said it better myself anon 😂 I don’t have much to add because… yeah. I think you nailed it all.
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antvnger · 7 months
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When you first came out of the Quantum Realm after Thanos happened, was Natasha's peanut butter and jelly sandwich the best thing you ate at that moment?
*chuckles* Well, I mean I was starving, yeah, but to me, it kinda sounds like you think that was the very first thing I ate after coming back from the Quantum Realm.
Believe me, dude, it wasn’t. I stayed with Cassie for a little while and then drove almost 3,000 miles cross country in Luis’s van. (That’s roughly 42 hours on the road by the way, not including pit stops.)
I mean, it was a good peanut butter jelly sandwich, but it was just a peanut butter jelly sandwich. And honestly, even though I was starving, I was pretty nervous about telling the Avengers my crazy heist scheme, so I just quickly scarfed that sandwich down.
Couldn’t tell ya if Nat used grape or strawberry jelly, I ate it so fast and was so nervous.
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mqstermindswift · 8 months
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I don't get how some Bonrad stans just come up with the most random things to hate on jere like yall be hating on him for breathing air or smth
Like Taylor said,you need to calm down
You're being too loud
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escapismqueen · 9 months
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Can we talk about the differences between when Belly is in the water with Conrad in season 1 and when she's in the water with Jeremiah? With Conrad she rejects him but she accepts Jeremiah when he's playful with her underwater also lets him stay then he confesses his love to her and she says yes yes like you would think she would be confused that her best friend is telling her his feelings for her but nope it was so good. She also says things like "I was always afraid when this might happen but it's fine because it's Jeremiah" when they're making out in the car like does that not show her love for him even though she didn't realize it? You wouldn't say that in your head if you didn't. Let these two be endgame they're perfect for each other they have this insane chemistry.
Yessssss !!! This is what I mean when I say that belly and Jeremiah are so natural together. There’s literally never any awkwardness. Even in the pool when Jeremiah was testing the boundaries and seeing if she felt the same way, it was just anticipation and hope, never ever awkwardness. I just find belly and Conrad awkward together. I’m rewatching season 2 and it’s even more apparent the second time around. Jelly’s chemistry is off the charts ! And that college montage of them both is on repeat in my head, and same for the kiss !
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lansangprincess · 8 months
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Would you be okay with jere hooking up with another girl on a break as long as jelly were endgame?
Great question!
Similar to my opinion with the long-held Ross/Rachel "We were on a break" debate, for me, it doesn't actually matter if the technicalities of the situation "proved" that a couple was on a break or not. The point was there was huge miscommunication and deeply hurt feelings. That doesn't go away even if there was an "objectively correct" version of the event.
As for any situation, I would need some more context on how the show would handle this scenario because I personally don't see Jere hooking up with anyone that quickly post-break up, not even in a self-destructive way. So for me to wonder if I would be okay with it is really dependent on if the situation was believable in the first place.
BUT at the end of the day, if Jelly were endgame even after that low point in their relationship, it would signify that their communication skills and conflict resolution skills have triumphed once again and they were able to make it work with both partners owning up to their mistakes and finding a way to move forward that makes both of them comfortable. So I guess I would be okay?
I know this isn't the straightforward answer you were probably looking for but I really can't say much on it if I don't know how the writers are going to handle it lol sorry.
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muslimintp-1999-girl · 8 months
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Soooo Jenny wants to milk tsitp 🙃
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loveinsomesacredplace · 6 months
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This is a positive and optimistic Jelly fandom space, remember the mantra is fuck those books, book 3 cannot hurt you, season 3 is a blank canvas - why not fill it with joy and light?
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