fallout tv show ghoul discussion

the only thing i dislike about the show is their retcon of ghoul lore- everything else is a banger i had a great time but the lore changing the ghouls baffles me, as it retcons and changes literally every other game in the franchise. its funny, im not mad about it, im ok with the show having different lore than the games. i just hope they make it clear that its an AU kind of thing haha mainly because if someone gets introduced to the series from the show, and they go off to play the games, theyre going to be confused. so, what are the changes? well-

in fo3, theres an entire side mission involving the underworld, where the ghouls there really hammer in that the rumors like; that they regen and so can only be killed by headshots, that they eat people, that they can go feral at any point, and that they're zombies.

all of this is just propaganda spread by the brotherhood and bigots to justify murder and genocide.

none of it is true. they bleed and die like anyone else. but in the show, these things are not rumors, and they are completely true. cooper constantly has to take this drug from a vial that prevents him from going feral. theres no explanation on where this medicine came from, who makes it, whats its made out of, etc.

so, while in the game, turning feral is unknown, seemingly at random (theories range from genetics, lack of socialization, insanity, radiation exposure, and time) and ghouls dont just- randomly turn feral. but in the show its enevitable and therefore the hate towards them is justified. the only things that are special about them is that they; age much, much slower than non-ghouls, that they can heal faster using radiation. (to my knowlege, they still need to be patched up. they do not just regen. they can still get shot to death, or maimed. they just heal a little faster.) and they need more potent drugs, as it doesnt affect them as strongly (mentioned in fo3 by some ghouls in a subway) the changes made in the show heavily changes the stories of a few characters and places in the entire series.

for fo3: changes the entire underworld. these ghouls cannot leave this place. if they do, they're shot and killed immediately by the brotherhood nearby. they discuss how they're discriminated against. in the fo3 dlc, point lookout, the ghoul there presumably hasnt left the manor he lives in for well over 200 years. he wouldnt have access to these vials. tenpenny tower. their ban on ghouls would be justified then. the entire narrative involving the water purifier and putting the serum in that will kill off all mutants. with the changes the show makes, the decision whether or not you do this has no weight and eradicating mutants becomes justified. for fallout new vegas: dean domino. he hasn't left the Sierra Madre in over 200 years. he wouldnt have access to these vials either and would have probably gone feral a long time ago. for fallout 4: diamond city. diamond city's ban on ghouls wouldnt be an issue anymore. since in the show, ghouls cant die aside from headshots, the ghouls being thrown out into the wastes to the elements wouldn't really be as heavy of an issue.

(i cannot comment for fallout 1 and 2, as i am not as knowledgable about the ghouls in those two games. feel free to add on in reblogs if you know more about them than i do)

i love the show, i think its awesome. im basically consuming it now with the idea that its canon -within its own story and lore- and is separate from the game itself. cooper is a badass and the changes work for the show itself, not so much the entire series. which is fine in my eyes.

Anyone else notice how... estranged, Jaiden and Roier's relationship has become?

Roier and Jaiden were the rides or dies of the server. One asks the other to jump, and the other asks, "How high?"

But now, They've become so different. After Jaiden came back from the Federation facility, she (Understandably) confirmed that she's going to lie to her friends because being honest brought her nothing but suspicion.

The group of people she trusts is getting smaller and smaller. And unfortunately, it looks like Roier, the person who's been with her since the very beginning, the first person whom she showed Bobby Fields to, the first person who told her that he trusted her and reassured her when he found out others didn't, the father of her son...

Is no longer a part of that group.

I mean, I get it. Cellbit, the island's number one Cucurucho hater, is his husband. It's understandable for Jaiden to think that if she were to tell Roier, he'd tell Cellbit. But if you know Roier, you know that's not true. Roier would absolutely keep this a secret, and not only that, but Roier is the best person to tell said secret to.

Cuz he's the only other person who's seen two Cucuruchos in the same place.

Roier's relationship with Cucurucho used to be very positive. They used to be legit friends, they'd hang out together, have fun, and there were even implications that Cucurucho had a crush on Roier. But something happened to Cucurucho. His friend suddenly stopped visiting him, and he still misses him.

Like her, Roier also believes that Cucurucho is a victim. And despite what Cellbit has said, Roier believes that Cucurucho wants to be free to do what he wants.

Roier is the best person to tell the truth to. They could tell each other their experiences with the two Cucuruchos and work together to figure out how to free him, if possible.

(But on a metagame level, I also understand. They're both working on different projects, and Jaiden has said that they have very different schedules, which gives them less time to see each other and catch up)

dirk shows up at dave’s house and lets him self in before dave says anything he sits down on the couch opening his laptop. hes like okay i figured it out. he pulls up a multi page doc about the “arg” dave has on his ig meme account detailing every linkable reference and gps tracked location he was posting from and at the end of the 30 min presentation hes like but thats just my guess. was i close? and dave is like get out of my house.

if you cant handle ur fave flopping then im sorry football isn't for u

"but isn't it also darlin and sam"

@grim-has-issues Know I love you but I'm gonna take the utmost pleasure in explaining to you why you're wrong cause that doesn't work the way you think it does.

So why don't Sam and Darlin work in my Achilles and Patroclus comparison like David and Asher. Well it's actually a very simple reason. Sam and Darlin lack the history.

Achilles and Patroclus grew up together, they trained together, they were soldiers together. They basically lived in each other's pocket since they were kids. Sam and Darlin don't have that kind of connection. They grew up in two separate worlds, in two separate times. David and Asher do. They grew up in the same pack, they've been best friends since they were little, they have that deeper sense of connection.

It's because of their history together that makes the story of Achilles and Patroclus so heart-wrenching. It's because of their history that sets Achilles off the way he does when Patroclus dies. This wasn't just some soldier that he got close to, this was his best friend, someone who he'd known and cared for and loved since he was just a boy. And we only find that in David and Asher (most poignantly in Imperium but it works in Prime too with the catalyst being Inversion rather than the Quinn fight).

Sam and Darlin as Achilles and Patroclus only works at surface level. If you just look at "hothead soldier who would lose it if they lost their partner" and "calm and collected partner that wants to protect their soldier" then yeah, it works. But it lacks depth, it lacks detail, it lacks the structure that makes this hit so hard. And this is me so you already know surface level just won't cut it.

David and Asher have the full setup. They grew up together, they were extremely close, and losing one would set the other off because of how deep of a loss it would be. In Imperium, we see Asher go full Achilles. He finds David dying and rips Quinn apart in revenge. He becomes a cold-hearted monster that just wants blood in return for the world taking his best friend and lover from him. Everything just works so much better.

Trust me my friend, I considered Sam and Darlin for my comparison. But when you look below the surface, it just falls apart. The only characters this really works with are David and Asher. I put far too much thought into all of my posts cause it's not angst if it's not accurate.

But thank you for allowing me to actually explain why this doesn't work with other characters. I mean I was going to eventually but you let me get it done nice and early before all the thoughts dribbled out of my ears.

Im literally not going to be involved in any celebrity relationship now

It's kind of funny how much time I spend on tiktok telling people that lunter is not a "proship**" given that I am in fact a proshipper and would not care either way but like...

The obsession with finding things morally wrong with ships the fandom has decided are bad just shows how seriously people take this for no reason?? Like, I often see antis say shit like "Bring back being able to just hate ships for no reason!"- that never went away, you just added in the idea of harassment and hating on fans as part of "hating". Do antis genuinely think proshippers are mad you're telling us that you hate com/dark ships? The problem is you harassing and having a go at people for it- you're entitled to hate whatever you want!

**It is not actually possible for a ship to be proship, as its just the idea of being anti-harassment but people often use it as an accusation, changing the meaning to "problematic ship"

oh bro, why the hell am I having brainrot with Arthur and Antonio with a Persephone and Hades AU in a gothic setting? Obviously Arthur as Hades (in this house we love grumpy intj) and Antonio as Persephone.

Patch notes are out

Do yous reckon they realise this is the only relationship they have outside of their immediate family and close friends

[Axel: ze/zir fae/faer, conan: they/them]

i feel like ppl misunderstand when i say i hate jegulus antis.

i dont even like jegulus, im a jily girly through and through, but so many ppl will just search out jegulus shippers minding their own business and practically fucking bully them or say blatanly homophobic shit.

like i would get it if it was inherently problematic (dramione) or illigal (sirimione) but it's literally not hurting anyone and people who just constantly bitch and moan and whine and complain instead of just minding their business and consuming content they actually like are so fucking frustrating.

personally disliking something is different than making a whole ass blog or hashtag for it

twt ft fans cannot fathom lgbtq ships with lucy bc “wErE wE wAtChiNg thE sAmE ShowS” and “but mashitfuck draws them like this??” IF WE ALWAYS LISTENED TO “CANON” AND SHIT WE NEVER WILL HAVE FUN. ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE 😭 absolutley nowhere did anyone say that FRIENDSHIPS BETWEEN DIFFERENT SEXES ARE VOID THEY DOMT EXIST!!! SOMEONE LITERALLY JUST SAID IN THEIR EYES CANA AND LUCY HAD MORE CHEMISTRY 😭😭😭 TWITTER LITERACY RATES ARE AT AN ALL TIME LOW I HATE THIS FANDOM SOOOOOO MCUH .

anyways

Just woke up and my inbox is full of trash??? Its never that serious. It's a child's dance competition. Yes, your fave worked so hard to get too finals, but so did the other kids, too. Especially the international kids. For some of them, this is the only thing they work towards. You can not discredit the work these kids did because you are but hurt about a scenario that doesn't even include you. Some of you think you're sav m or fiona, and that's the problem. You can be u happy, but they didn't make it. I'm not gonna shame you for disappointment but I will curse you out Over hating on kids for no reason.

i need u all to follow my dolph rp blog. i needa rp as this sheltered cyborg Neow @captdolphlaserhawk

"no cliques on hockeyblr" hahahahahahHAHAHAHA. It's the most cliquey fandom on all of tumblr.

idk bud. i mean im not saying there's NO cliques, i just don't see much of that stuff. poetry hockeyblr is all over the place.

Switching between Escaped and Redacted is enough to give a lesser man whiplash.

Like you have Escaped with less volume of content but it's all meticulously thought about and you can find every detail and if there's one you can't find, you can ask and he probably has an answer.

And then you have Redacted with enough content to make your head spin but once you start looking a little closer and actually asking questions, all the details dry up and vanish. No one knows specifics or descriptions, we just have vague ideas and general headcanons.

I love both, just for different reasons. Don't go to Escaped for level of content, don't go to Redacted for extensive details. Have to maintain your expectations.