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andorerso · 2 years
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What ideas do you have for rebelcaptain fic after waching Andor? I want to know how you imagine them meeting. Do they get along with each other or butt heads? I can't wait for you to write it. I already know it'll be amazing because it's coming from you!
aw thank you <33
so as I said I have three different ideas, but in each of them, Jyn is aged up so she and Cassian are around the same age
1) Jyn ends up on Ferrix after Saw abandons her. I think this is the one I have the least concrete ideas for, but it's basically just her finding a home there, getting to know and form connections with all the people, making friends, meanwhile falling in love with disaster Cassian along the way
2) none of the Luthen or Pre-Mor stuff happens but Cassian gets off Ferrix regardless to go look for his sister and ends up meeting Jyn when she tries to pickpocket him. actually not just tries, she probably succeeds, but he won't give up that easily either so he goes after her to get his credits back. however they're confronted by a third enemy (guards? a street gang? idk) so they end working together to fight them and they get talking afterwards and she actually agrees to help him find his sister. I think this is probably the darkest and most serious in tone
3) Jyn grows up on Ferrix from the start (probably no Saw in this, idk), so she and Cassian are childhood friends and literally the devilish dream duo. everyone in Ferrix knows them for being a chaotic mess, and you almost never see one without the other. like if Cassian shows up, you know Jyn’s gotta be nearby as well, and vica versa. I think I'd set this in their teens, like 16-17, and make it a friends to lovers story with some misunderstandings and mutual pining. this is definitely the most light-hearted one of them all and probably the one I have the most ideas for
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invaderhogtwopointohno · 11 months
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Andor: A Cut Above
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Look I will never stop talking about Andor and my love for Rogue One but I really gotta talk about the power that Andor has in taking the “Doomed By the Narrative” and making a whole fucking meal out of it. We know what happens in Rogue One. We Know. So they don’t have to dance around that. Instead- they put it in our faces. The main theme is the funeral march for Ferrix? The Rebel Symbol is actually the Death Star? The prisoners are literally “a tool of the Imperial War Machine”. “The Rebellion comes first” narrative piece from Cinta, the different degrees that everyone is dedicated to the cause. We don’t even need to know if these characters survive in the next season- the entire point is that the actions of any one character at any one point is a step forward- Nemik’s manifesto insists that there are people “always moving the line forward” whether they know it or not. And that’s the point. The entire show is built around the understanding that Cassian is never going to make it. He is doomed from the start. He just needs to make it to Jyn and Jyn needs to make it to Scarif and the plans need to make it to Leia and then make it to Luke and then make it to the Rebellion. It’s a long line of important steps as we watch the entire universe come together to make it happen because if any one person stops and doesn’t keep moving forward, there is no end of the Empire.
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rebelrainfall · 2 years
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I need Cassian and Jyn post-Scarif running into someone Cassian knew on Ferrix, solely for the intense whiplash said someone would experience on learning that Cassian is the designated Responsible One in this pairing
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littlecarjaflame · 1 year
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Just a couple of Andor-related thoughts I need to get out of my head (don’t mind me :))
1) The sheer brilliance of having Maarva deliver her rousing speech from beyond the grave. If she did this while alive, the Empire would’ve been able to hurt her, break her. But what are you going to do to her now? She is already dead. She is a ghost. You can’t hurt her. (Also ties in beautifully with what Nemik says about freedom being an idea)
1a) Brasso using Maarva’s brick to hit an Imperial in the face was tacky and on the nose, and so, so satisfying.
1b) Kino Loy was the parallel to this. He knew he was already dead when they started the prison break. Once he realized they were not letting him go, he was dead. So, like Maarva, he went all in.
2) I still believe that Han shot first. On that note, there is no doubt that Cassian always shoots first. It is remarkable, how absolutely ruthless all the supposed good guys are. Cassian kills almost as an afterthought, he rarely knocks people out, he goes in for the kill and does it with terrifying efficiency - his first scene in Rogue One was not an exception stemming from desperate measures, it was his standard MO. Look at Skeen. Even at Maarva’s funeral, there is no scene of him stopping what he’s doing to listen to his mother’s last message. He just keeps going, because he has a job to do. Cassian looks hot and cute and burns with love for his friends, but he will not hesitate to end anyone in his way. Not for a second.
2a) Cassian is not the only one. Vel is pretty much the only person who does not have laser focus on the cause and everything else be damned. Luthen doesn’t even try to hide it. Kleya is so cold and calculating, she puts Luthen to shame. Mon acts high and mighty, but in the end, she throws her husband and her daughter under the bus. Cinta barely even looks at Vel when there is work to be done. And once again - this is the same franchise, which had Luke quitting his Jedi training and racing off to save his friends, which had Anakin abandoning all his beliefs for love. I have not seen every bit of SW media out there, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the sheer coldness and ruthlessness of Andor characters is unprecedented.
3) Cassian is not the hero of this story. He is the protagonist (or one of the protagonists, maybe?), but he is not the hero. I fully expected him to have a big moment in the finale, showing up, leading a riot maybe? But they went a different route, and one much more fitting to the character. When you think about it, in the end the Empire doesn’t even have proof that he actually was on Ferrix, except for what someone told them. Cassian stays hidden, ties up the loose ends, and slips out of Ferrix as if he had never been there.
This is an origin story, but not one of a hero. Cassian is not a leader, he never takes the front seat. He is the grey eminence, the person behind the Kino Loys and Jyn Ersos, not necessarily manipulating the leaders themselves, but pulling the strings, so that the leader figure can (that is, has the soldiers and a ship to go on Scarif) and will (that is, asking him is that the best you have to spur him on). From a writing standpoint, this is difficult to pull off, because a character like this is, by definition, not in the spotlight. But even though it wobbles slightly (for a show named after him, Cassian gets surprisingly little screen time and at the beginning he is rather passive protagonist), the writers come through in the end.
3a) Sometimes, I like to think that the titular “Andor” is actually Maarva.
4) Once again, I haven’t seen all the SW shows, but what I love about Andor is that they show us the Empire side of things. Not only the big players, the villains, but ordinary Imperial officers. And they are human. They have loyalty to each other, personalities, nagging mothers, obsessions, dreams. Even though they are still at core bad people, they are people. There is a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it shot during the prison escape, when a bunch of guards is cowering in what looks like a utility cabinet, keeping as quiet as they can, sweating and trembling, while outside the door, the prisoners are running. You know Syrill - he is the guy which makes the hair on the back of your neck stand. For Dedra, I loved a little scene in one of the early episodes, where she was going over some reports with one of her underling, and the underling suggests that they can stay a little longer to work some more. She doesn’t bully him into staying late, she doesn’t even hint that he should. And yet he offers. A nameless, completely unimportant person shows agency, making him, with one line, more than an anonymous extra.
5) The irony in this show is something so darkly hilarious, I can’t help to chuckle at points. Sometimes it can be a little heavy-handed, like Nemik being literally killed by the stolen money or Cassian building parts of the Death Star, but this show has so many subtle ironic moments. Cassian taking part in the Aldhani heist, so that he can escape Ferrix with his mother, is exactly what motivates his mother to stay. The prisoners are able to orchestrate the escape, because the working program forces them into cooperating - you can see it, they work as a well-oiled machine. The Empire looking all over for a man who is sitting in one of their own prisons. And so on and so on...
5a) Syrill and Dedra are absolutely played as a twist of the stalker-y Twilight-y kind of romance, complete with the lines like I’d never lie to you and just being in your presence, I realized life was worth living. Look me in the eye and tell me that it is not straight out of a trashy romance - and Dedra reacts to him the way any sane woman would. That wasn’t a conversation, you were brought in for questioning. They are highlighting how creepy some of these romances are, and I am here for it.
5b) The irony, along with the main theme of the show (”the surprise from below”), climaxes beutifully in the finale. Everyone is so obsessed with Cassian, where he is and whether he is coming, that they don’t notice the rebellion brewing under their feet. Dedra says she wants a funeral, without realizing it is the last thing she needs. Even when it starts, she is running around, looking up where she thinks Cassian is, and not looking down. And for this exact reason, I think the most potentially dangerous antagonist in the show is Syrill. Because he is the only one who looks down, who recognizes the danger of Cassian Andor (partly because he is also one of the ordinary people). He is set up to be mocked, with his obsession with Dedra and his mundane job and his nagging mother, but I think that makes us overlook the terrifiying idea of what Syrill Karn would be like if he actually got the resources and authority to do something. Like Cassian said, power doesn’t panic, and who is the only Imperial in the riot who kept a cool head? Not Ice Queen Dedra, not the local officers, but wimpy-looking, played-for-laughs Syrill Karn. Dedra sees the big picture, can connect the dots where noone else can, and Syrill understands where to look for those dots. Those two together - terrifying. Without irony.
Anyway, rant over, move along.
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jyndor · 1 year
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i see cassian getting bix out the torture chamber not being just romantic in nature but to show what kinds violence the empire inflicts on people like torture and the long term effects of it and that you can choose to not leave people behind, even in a dangerous rebellion. at that point bix was very broken and barely holding it together. the riot allowed someone to get her out, naturally that person would be cassian but it could have been the guy that hit the fascist with maarva’s brick if things had been different. i guess its more merciful than luthen’s approach to kill cassian because he knows too much and better than just leaving bix there. cass already feels guilty for ‘leaving’ maarva. i see more layers than romance there but i don’t see romance as a motivation first although its probably a factor but not as much of a pressing one
YES. cassian is someone who doesn't want to leave people behind, especially not people he loves. in his mind, he's left his sister, left maarva, left bix to get tortured - and also she does make some comments throughout the show that give me the impression that him leaving her to do other shit, putting other things ahead of her, is a sticking point for why their relationship hasn't worked. but he doesn't want to leave people behind.
yeah I mean I think they obviously love each other (and I think it's possible, like adria said in an interview, that if timing were better they could be "meant to be" in the sense that they end up reconciling and working things out as adults. it's not in the cards though) but it's a matter of what kind of love - is it romantic love? to some extent yes clearly, is it platonic? partly. they are friends, they are close, they love each other. is him rescuing her romantic? I mean it's a CLEAR reference to him saving jyn on scarif (or perhaps jedha) and also the way he carries her is very much like how jyn carries him to the beach on scarif. there have been similar shots of bix and cassian and jyn and cassian throughout the show. that's not a coincidence.
but also cassian saves bix because cassian is that person. he goes back for the people he cares about. he IS a hero.
i do think it's also meant to juxtapose cassian's actions and luthen's. i'm beginning to think that luthen in many ways might be a potential PATH that cassian might have taken: cold, bitter, alone - but always in service of the cause. the differences are significant - cassian inspires without intending to be (think of kino and jyn but also nemik), luthen motivates others with resignation (lonni and vel). they're both reluctant to kill allies (luthen clearly doesn't want to have cassian murdered but he absolutely is willing to do it; cassian's face after killing tivik says everything we need to know about how he feels in that moment) even if they are ruthless. they, like saw, have clarity of purpose and can use their judgment if their plans are flawed.
cassian actively saves bix; luthen is found by cassian, and given the choice between killing cassian or taking him on (thus saving him in a sense) he chooses to bring cassian into the fold. in that moment, cassian unintentionally brings out the best in luthen - and we see that in the first honest smile on luthen's face in the entire show.
you've got a role reversal - cassian gives luthen the order to choose life or death, give the cause an asset like cassian or tie up that loose end and kill him.
which makes me think about what their relationship will become in season two. what cassian will become in season two. and to tie it back to your ask, what that means for bix and brasso and the rest of the ferrix crew.
knowing they are not likely to make it through the season because cassian HAS to lose everything (all of his old lives) by rogue one, I have a feeling that cassian won't just lose everything. he might have to make choices that could cost him everything. cassian isn't luthen, but he is cinta. cinta, who is kind to the dray and shares a blanket with vel because she loves her but also always, always puts the rebellion first.
I hope that bix is able to have some agency in s2 and I hope even more that she lives but I think that scene really did mirror scarif. where jyn and cassian died. that cassian has basically damned them with the climb word and also idk that ending had my tragedy senses tingling - not that they won't arrive to their destination or die offscreen like that ugh but that cassian won't see them again.
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jynjackets · 10 months
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Do you think Jyn and Maarva would like each other?
tl;dr: no <3
I don't think Jyn would get along with maarva as she is a source of Cassian's issues with self-worth and guilt, similar to how Saw is a source for her fear of abandonment. Maarva doesn't even like her own son so who knows who's good enough for her lol.
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Jyn being someone who knows exactly what it’s like to be adopted and re-abandoned, her seeing Cassian's mother be consistently disappointed in her drugged n kidnapped adopted son is a whole other level of fucked up parental issues. Maarva opting to be with her her town instead of Cassian in her last days and also disbanding his actual family, it would be very difficult for someone like Jyn to see past these actions.
There's also no real justification for Maarva's treatment of Cassian (because he doesn't do his capitalist ferrix job? because he brings girls home? because he still lives with her even though he takes care of her?). AND even after her death, the last thing she wants him to remember was “hey, you’re a big fuck up, but that’s okay <3”.
Maarva has done nothing but live her life from her fuckass couch and yet had the audacity to tell Cassian that he needs to stand up, that he needs to rebel or get a job. Even after when he fought back and went to child prison after seeing his adopted father hanged. So not only did you get ripped away from your parents, but also the person that supposedly chose you felt like they got more than they bargained for, Cassian therefore feeling ultimately undesired by both the biological and adopted family.
But being a parent is complicated, is she at fault?
Compare it to Saw abandoning Jyn. When Jyn grew older he was forced to choose between his daughter and his life's mission. Abandoning her is, without argument, fucked up. While it created irreparable damage, we can understand why he did it. Not only was it traumatizing for Jyn, but it was THE ultimate sacrifice he was making from himself. The thing that shifts some blame away is that it gutted him to do this, and he did it from a place making sure she was safe and alive.
So with this in mind, what is Maarva’s sacrifice in being constantly disappointed in your adopted son because he isn’t like everyone else? What does she gain when she tells him to forget about Kenari, that there’s nothing left? Imagine being adopted, being told as an adult that, no, you can’t be looking for your biological family and that they’re nothing now, and that even trying is useless. The only thing I can see is that she just wants Cassian to fit her image of an ideal Ferrix citizen, which isn't amazing and isn't enough to justify her actions.
Moreover, as someone who has lost a parent, the last moments you have with them hold a permanent memory that weigh differently than everything else, and imo require its own sort of grief. On Maarva's last days, she made him leave without her, even when she knew she was going to die by not taking her meds. She would rather spend her last days being memorialized as a hero on Ferrix than being with her only son. And at the end of your days, you want to go home. You want to be with family for as long as possible. For Maarva, home was Ferrix and everyone else there, not Cassian.
So Maarva sucks because she was a terrible mother at the benefit of literally nothing. Where Saw was the insurgent leader of the extremist cell that made major attacks against the empire; and not the best father largely because of his life's work but also still wanting to do his best to keep his daughter safe. But look who gets more villainized than anybody else and who is more celebrated as a hero?
On a tangent now, I believe Jyn and Maarva would be comparable to Cassian and Saw's relationship: you don't feel all warm and fuzzy inside meeting the [person you care about]'s greatest source of trauma.
All that Cassian knows about him is that he adopted her, then abandoned her. Upon seeing him on Jedha he almost draws a gun to protect Jyn (doing that before THE guy, THE supposed terrorist and Empire's most wanted, mind you), unsure where their relationship stands. Saw of course, would protect his daughter in turn, not knowing who this guy is.
I would believe Jyn would see Maarva in a similar light on a dramatically smaller scale. That "I hate my MIL and our interests are only mutually aligned around what's best for Cassian", but of course what that means is totally different things. Maarva sees Cassian and believes he needs to change. Even when she’s fucking dead he still needs for things to come together in order to be unstoppable, or whatever vision she had in mind for him and that him on his own is not enough.
And so the rest of this is how I interpret the implications for Rogue One: that the lessons both Jyn and Cassian took from their adopted parents can be mutually shattered as they see each other for who they are and not what they've been molded to believe.
As we know with Jyn, she has a complex moral code. When she sees a stormtrooper she feels the reflex to kill. When she sees a war-torn child, her reaction is to risk her own life to save innocents. And this is what she continues to do when she meets Cassian. She has every reason to shoot him and steal his ship. But on Jedha, seeing him agreeing with her that she was perhaps worth saving after her deed of saving the child, she sees him in return when he shoots the partisan. They see each other for their actions, for the better parts of each other, despite their words and even their own personal doubts. Jyn continues to risk her life for him over and over again and vice versa. She doesn’t want to change him at all and she inspires him to fight in ways he perhaps has forgotten or never knew was possible.
In fact, the reason she’s angry with him on Eadu is because he lied to her. Revealing the intention to kill someone’s dad easily put your anger in the right, but while she is mixed up with grief, the bigger part of her knows he was incapable of doing it and doesn’t revel in the fact of who he could’ve been if he killed her father or even combined with terrible things he's done, but just sees the present man that didn't and instead came back for her. Even Cassian is thinking how she was going to kill him for it, when he hadn’t even committed the crime. He’s caught up with the impression and perception of the kind of man he is, the narrative that he’s been fed his whole life that he’s committed atrocities that deem him unworthy.
Jyn and Cassian offer each other a break from narratives and reputations that they've tried to sound out their whole lives. And although both characters have a lot of integrity, being told the same thing over again through life lessons, you begin to believe it yourself. It's where we meet the two of them at their lowest points. That for Jyn, she wasn't someone worth returning to, that there isn't hope amongst war. And for Cassian, that he's not a good person for things he's done, that war is endless, and he has to follow orders or do things for others in order to belong. As the events of Rogue One unfold, we can see how they come to understand each other. They create a bond by feeling seen for the first time.
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Maarva is like the exact opposite of Saw Gerrera in all the worst fucking ways, I tell you. Instead of being family friends with and saving the child that he later abandons, she kidnaps the child away from their actual family and then holds them hostage on her planet to force-assimilate and take care of her in her old age. And instead of actively rebelling through extremist insurgencies, she sits around and berates her son to go be a rebel, and yet disappointed that he doesn't have a job or doesn't do what everybody else does(?).
Jyn would hate that bitch like. Every Life Day would be an ordeal. The irony of how she fucking dies doing nothing when Saw Gerrera is barely held together by oxygen tubes and yet outlives this couch potato. Andors versus Erso-Gerreras it's first-planet problems versus outer rim problems. Yeah they're both traumatic but the biggest difference is one of these is entirely avoidable if you just weren't a piece of shit.
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astromechs · 10 months
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Since you don’t mind random/rare pairs… what about Bix x Jyn + angry/rough sex? 👀 They have this annoyance going on for some reason (maybe they’re academic rivals in an AU? Or have some work going on together in-universe?) and well, let’s say they found out a better way to put it out instead of arguing lmao
And after they fuck they can be friends (or their arguments are way more flirtatious) 😌 I hope it inspires you for something
hello, anon! this sort of fits your prompt, but then i sort of went in a different direction? regardless, i hope you enjoy! 💙 (and... yes, do mind the explicit rating, readers) also on ao3!
The first rule of not being an idiot is easy: never go to the same place twice, unless there's a good reason.
Imperials may be stupid, but there are a lot of people who aren't — people with good and long memories for faces that last well beyond aliases. And those memories probably aren't longer anywhere in the galaxy, Jyn knows, than they are on Ferrix; the traditions are old, the gossip networks are older, and one glimpse from the wrong eyes could mean trouble for days.
For years, depending on the sentence. Kestrel Dawn had landed four before she'd found friends, and then vanished from all record entirely.
It just so happens, though, that the best scrapyard in the quadrant is on this planet. And with the old piece of junk she's been saddled with, that's compelling enough reason to risk dealing with the mechanic working there — no matter what had happened before.
The streets are calm now, in the middle of the day; after a quick assessment of her surroundings, just to be sure, she doesn't hesitate any further before heading straight for her destination and walking through the front door.
Immediately, when the mechanic in question looks up from whatever has, up until now, had her attention on the counter, the reception that Jyn gets is chilly; that definitely isn't a surprise. Familiarity is a danger in a life like hers, but she can't help but find some relief in it now, in the way that Bix Caleen glowers at her — brows creased, eyes hard, jaw set.
In the way she says, just as coldly: "What the fuck are you doing here?"
There's a part in this script that's familiar for Jyn, too, so she takes it, lifting her shoulder an easy shrug, tossing back, "Parts."
With more force than she arguably needs, Bix throws a cloth down onto the counter, stepping out from behind it to stand closer. She's got more than a few centimeters of height on Jyn, and with the way her expression hasn't changed, her arms are crossed over her chest, and there's a dangerous glint to her gaze, there's something about her that's imposing.
(Something about that, too, that after weeks of monotony, sparks something back to life in Jyn; she's aware, then, of her heart picking up its pace.) 
"That's bantha shit, and you know it." Bix rolls her eyes. "I couldn't get corpos to stop sniffing around here for weeks last time you showed up. You know how bad that is for business?"
"No," Jyn says, because she can, even if she amends: "But I can guess."
Bix scoffs. "Then you can guess your way out of here. I don't need this today."
A smile almost threatens to tug on Jyn's mouth, but it falters before it even forms, fading into the silence that's enveloped between them; she's rusty, completely out of the habit. Still, by the time she speaks again, she finds that something in her voice has changed. She drops the casual nonchalance, and in its place is a somewhat softer truth.
"I really do need parts, though."
Bix is quiet for a moment, and then, with every inch of her face suggesting that she thinks she's making a huge mistake (which, Jyn concedes, she probably is), she heaves a long sigh. "Come to the back."
She turns on her heel, then, and Jyn follows without another word, guilt twinging in her chest. Bix Caleen is a good person, one who's helped her well more than once when didn't have to, when helping has gotten her into her own shit, and she's still helping her; as she ducks under an overhang, a thought surfaces at the back of Jyn's mind: she deserves better.
Maybe that's what has her stopping in her tracks when they're alone, and catching Bix's hand roughly with hers, dragging her closer, heart thumping so obviously that it's surely being heard; maybe that's what has her lingering in the space, eyes meeting an unblinking gaze.
Or maybe it doesn't matter what anyone deserves, because she’s spent the past however many weeks holed up on that hunk of junk ship, and longer than that before locked up in a cell, and she just needs this.
Whatever reason is driving her, she crashes their mouths together like she needs that to breathe.
There's a gasp on Bix's part, about a second, maybe, of hesitation, before Jyn feels another warm body practically melt into her own, feels a hand wind into her hair and tug on it, and — fuck, that feels good.
So does the tongue that slides into her mouth when she parts her own lips, and so do the fingers that grip her tightly, that wedge impressions into her skin with nails even through her shirt; so does the way she’s guided, step by step, until she’s pressing the other woman’s back against the wall.
She’s warm to her core now — warm, wanting, and aching — but for the moment, that will have to wait. Because when they break apart for air, panting, and Jyn finds herself looking into blown-out pupils, a thumb grazing over kiss-swollen lips, she knows what her next move is.
She won’t waste a second on hesitation.
With one last kiss, and a faint noise of protest when she pulls away, just slightly, Jyn lowers herself to her knees, bracketing hips with her hands for balance, pushing them back against the wall when they arch into her. Still holding on with one hand, she makes quick work of fastenings with the other, before tugging Bix’s pants down her legs, followed immediately by underwear. As Jyn rebalances herself, brings her hands closer, and dips down one experimental finger, she notes, with a tug of satisfaction at her core, the other woman is fucking wet.
And even when she’s far from done.
Keening her head up, she replaces her finger with her mouth, pushing her tongue in between her folds.
The effect is immediate; the noise clawing out of Bix that reaches her ears is loud, guttural, and she has to use more force than before to hold back the hips starting to buck up into her, ostensibly seeking friction. But Jyn has a Partisan’s training, and so when there’s a job to do, a mission to accomplish, nothing will throw her off her task. She’s relentless in her efforts, bringing the woman before her closer and closer to the edge she so desperately seeks.
She’s relentless, and she’s precise exactly when she wants to be; for good measure, she adds a thumb, swiping it over her clit.
Bix jerks into her; her hands practically shove her back into the wall. In what falls out of her mouth, Jyn can just barely make out: "Kestrel —"
It’s then, and only then, that Jyn pulls back to speak, but only just, hot against her cunt. "It's Liana now."
If Bix has anything to say to that, neither of them will ever know — in part because, frankly, Jyn doesn’t care to hear it. Kestrel Dawn, Liana Hallik, Jyn Erso, whatever the fuck name does or doesn’t actually belong to her, it’s all irrelevant in this moment, just like the rest of the galaxy is, when this woman under her touch, and under her mouth, is about to come apart.
No, not about to — is, because even if she isn’t a Partisan anymore, even if she’d been left by them, she still thinks and operates like one, and a Partisan doesn’t leave a mission before it’s done. She keeps working, pushing, until —
"Fuck."
The other woman goes slack against her, catching her breath. Jyn rocks back on her feet, wiping her mouth on her sleeve before rising back up, capturing lips with her own once more. It’s a reminder of the need that still sits in her, growing by the second, aching, wanting need, but she can put it off.
Especially if precedent holds true, which tells her that she won’t be waiting long, regardless.
"Don't think,” Bix pants in the space between breaths, finding her voice, but at this point still barely, “this means you're getting off that easy."
It’s creaky, rusted from a prolonged absence, but even so, a small smile manages to tug at the corners of her mouth.
"Good." It even manages to stay, manages to trickle its way down even into her voice itself — just for that one second. "That's never any fun."
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ilove-hatethecw · 1 year
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I am finally formulating thoughts about the andor show, so this is about to be very spoilery so probably don’t read on. Also I’m on mobile so I bet the formatting is fucked.
The show was amazing, obviously, well written, well acted, the designs were everything. But also it hit me and made me think in a way no other Star Wars media really has. Now that may be because I’m young, I was only 12 when Rogue One came out, and now revisiting it as an 18 year old I’m just hit by how well crafted these two pieces of media are. We know they’re doomed from the beginning, we know Cassian is dead when we start the show, and yet it’s the journey to get there that makes it worthwhile. Same with the rogue one crew, and while I have heard time and time again that it goes beyond Star Wars, Rogue One doesn’t work without Star Wars. It wouldn’t work if we didn’t know that these efforts weren’t for nothing. Watching a suicide mission would be ten times more unsatisfying if we didn’t know that what they did mattered. But it does, what Jyn and Cassian do MATTERS. And then you have the paradox of it standing apart from Star Wars by not wanting to just retell the same story of the Jedi and the Sith, but it doesn’t work without George Lucas and his movies. And that brings me to the fact that love is so important in this world, it is the catalyst for everything. Love is what doomed the republic, and yet love is what truly started the rebellion. Cinta and Vel, grappling with their love for each other versus their love for the cause. Maraca loving the people of Ferrix so much she encourages them to fight. Cassian loving people in general that even when he has a negative viewpoint on the world he can’t stop helping and fighting. His love for Maarva making him choose to take the Aldhani job, risking himself for a cause he believes in but doesn’t know he believes in yet. But even further back, his love for his sister leads to the events on Morlana. Even though in my opinion it was misguided and honestly a horrible act, Maarva’s choice to rescue Kassa was out of love for this child who she wanted to be safe, even if she didn’t know him, and definitely went about it the wrong way.
Overall, I think it’s telling that my two favorite pieces of media right now both are tragedies, and they aren’t shy about reminding you that they are tragedies. The story is still important to tell, the love and resistance. Hadestown is the other piece of media and the resemblance is striking. Cassian and Orpheus are so very different and yet they walk similar paths. We the audience know they are doomed, but the characters themselves do not. They are both catalysts for change, and yet they are motivated just by love. I am not very good at analyzing media I just had thoughts and I really need an edit of Cassian and Melshi to road to hell (reprise) because I think it would be amazing and yet it would make me cry. Also this show has dragged me back into Star Wars brain rot so apologies in advance
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e-the-village-cryptid · 8 months
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What did you think of Rogue One?
Ah boy. Ok. First, a disclaimer that this is just my opinion, not me declaring some objective truth about the movie. Just because I felt one way about something doesn't mean I think everyone has to feel that way. If people really liked the movie, I am honestly happy for them! And if you really liked the movie to the point where someone disliking it will upset you, you may want to stop reading now. That said, here's my review.
Overall, I'd give the movie 2.5 stars on a scale of 1-5. Maybe 3 if we're being generous, because it was fun to watch in a casual way at some points, and some things were done well— Jyn's character and Galen's moral quandary were the high points for me. Everything else, though— storytelling, sense of place & visual feel, dialogue, characterization, most of the action sequences, overall plot— was disappointing to me. There was very little originality to be had in any of it, and although of course things don't have to be wildly original and never-been-done to be good, it felt like I'd already seen this movie a hundred times, except done better. Most of all, the majority of it felt flat and lifeless. It would have been extremely forgettable to me if not for Andor having already made me care about some of its characters.
Things I liked:
Jyn as a character. She has an interesting backstory, was well-acted, and has a depth and dimension that I feel the other characters were missing. I am very curious why, upon seeing that movie, the decision was made to dive into Cassian's backstory instead of Jyn's (although of course I'm glad we got Andor!). I think Jyn's time growing up being trained by Saw Gerrera would make quite an interesting story. (Watching her singlehandedly wreck like 12 people while Cassian watched in awe was definitely fun, haha.)
Galen's choice. I think this posed a truly interesting question. Was it true that the Death Star would have just been built without him? Would the destruction of Alderaan have happened without him? Did building in the flaw make up for the fact that he still in fact built it? Did his choice save lives or destroy them? Did he do it because he truly believed he could save lives that way, or because he was just trying to stay alive himself? Was it bravery or cowardice, or both in some strange combination?
K2. He was fun to watch, good comic relief, and I empathized with him a lot.
The death scene on the Scarif beach. Beautifully shot, acted, and directed. No notes.
The music. Lovely, orchestral, classic Star Wars scoring.
Things I didn't like:
My main issue with the movie is how flat everything felt. The characters, the setting— everything felt lifeless. It was hard to get emotionally invested because nothing felt like there was a true spark of life behind it. I'll go by points here.
The settings. The visual effects fell flat to me, but even beyond that, there was no humanity behind places like Jedha. It felt like the extras were told to mill back-and-forth aimlessly in front of the camera, rather than being given something to do that would give us a background glimpse into the culture of a place, as on Ferrix in Andor. The lack of depth to the setting made the locations feel like sets, not planets, and made it hard to feel a real sense of place and emotional connection.
Pretty much every character except Jyn was completely one-dimensional. None of them felt like real people at all, just devices to move the plot along. They each had their character archetype and were not allowed to deviate from it at all, and their choices came not from their characterization or their motivations, but from whatever the story needed in that moment. Their decisions felt contrived, making the characters not believable as people.
Many parts of it felt afraid of genuine emotion. It would pull back on the sincerity right as people died, refusing to actually let the emotional impact hit. Maybe this is a function of being directed at a younger audience, I don't know, but to me it felt like a refusal to take the world and people seriously in a way that affected my emotional investment.
The plot felt like a straight highway where you can see right through to the end and there's nothing by the wayside but endless fields of corn. I'm not even asking for twists, it's just... there was just not much there at all. No real arcs aside from the main one of getting the death star plans, no interesting or unexpected wrenches in the main plan, just... bland.
The action sequences were almost comically cliched. Nothing wrong with some well-used tropes, but after the second time Jyn wound up hanging off some ledge by one hand and had to dramatically haul herself back up, I could no longer keep from rolling my eyes.
Much of the dialogue was stiff and not believable. It didn't feel like people talking, it felt like the writers trying to deliver information.
The blocking was often very contrived and awkward to the point of feeling goofy.
Wow, they really managed to pull the "magical Asian" trope AND the "blind but can ~sense~ everything around them so don't worry they're not actually disabled" trope in one character. Really being efficient here.
(Also, not a critique but I am so genuinely confused on why they were all so dismissive of Chirrut. They treated him like just a wannabe, but... The man can literally dodge bullets and read minds, why the fuck is that not impressive or even like... useful to any of you?? Truly baffling, I do not understand it at all. "He's not actually a Jedi, so his ability to do crazy levels of Force magic that none of us can do doesn't really count" huh????)
(Also not a critique, just another thing I'm confused about now after watching— Why has Saw been so vilified, in canon and by fandom? "He's an extremist" everyone here is literally involved in a violent rebellion, he's doing the same thing "He's uncooperative with the other rebels" Rogue One also went rogue, because the other rebels were wishy washy and unwilling to commit "using Bor Gullet to read people's minds is so unethical" no more unethical than shooting your own source in the back of the head. What happened to enjoying grey morality? Anyway I stan Saw forever.)
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jynersq · 1 year
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reasons why i need jyn/cassian/bix ot3 like YESTERDAY:
- jyn and bix ganging up on cassian when he’s being a moody little spy bastard. cassian if we sandwich kiss ur cheeks will u feel better? cassian if WE kiss will you feel better?
- bix sharing embarrassing stories about young cassian. “yeah there was this one time he climbed over the gate at night and my dad found him in our backyard and beat his ass. also i’m the reason he knows where the clitoris is, you’re welcome”
- cassian and bix teaching jyn about ferrix and its culture.
jyn: so in ferrix…….when you die…would you say you’re…..bricked up
cassian and bix (in unison): NO
- jyn teaching bix hand to hand combat
- bix teaching jyn how to repair machines and jyn connecting bix with her smuggling contacts. ERSO & CALEEN’S NOVELTY JUNKYARD YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS
- cassian and bix making jyn ferrix recipes :) (jyn and cassian do not cook together for bix because jyn is not allowed in the kitchen due to what can only be referred to as The Incident)
- bix also teaching jyn the absolutely filthy kenari obscenities she learned from cassian. and also the sweeter stuff too, the little terms of endearment cassian might not have heard in a long long time that might even make his eyes a little foggy. or maybe it’s just dewy out here this morning idk
- idk jyn and bix being feral little gfs what else do i need to say
- dynamic is shifted from “JYN NO” (cassian) vs “JYN YES” (jyn) to “JYN NO” (still cassian) vs “JYN YES” (jyn and bix)
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ninsletamain · 2 months
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Can you please do an outfit swap where Jyn wears Cassian's outfit and if you need inspiration, I would say the blue parka one. :)
Hello!
I don't take requests unfortunately, but I have drawn her in his outfits twice.
[Ferrix Coat]
[Partial Rogue One]
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andorerso · 5 months
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For the 5 facts. Nemik lives, decides to join people trying to matchmake Jyn and Cassian.
so when I said replies may be slow, I didn't mean it to be this slow. so sorry, I was working on my Secret Santa fic because I'm a little behind but I will get to all the prompts you guys sent <3
anyway, Nemik lives, let's go
so Nemik lives (I'm partial to the headcanon that he's paralyzed though, but it doesn't really play a large part in this story). Cassian still goes back to Ferrix, then Niamos, then Narkina etc... basically, they don't see each other again until years later at Yavin IV. Nemik of course joined the Alliance, doing whatever he can to help. Cassian at this point is in his big angsty loner boy phase and doesn't really associate with anyone except a 7 feet tall security droid, but of course he's happy to see Nemik alive and well still, and they have a brief convo. I feel like Nemik would try to be friends with Cass, but he's in a mental state where he's just not really capable of it, and he's also often away from base for long periods of time, so they don't interact a lot. until Scarif. Nemik is one of the soldiers Cassian asks to come with them, and although he can't fight on the ground, his navigation skills and genius brain definitely comes in handy. so he, along with the rest of Rogue One crew, survive.
things change after that. while Cassian is in bacta and it's all still touch and go, the medics unsure if he'll even make it, Jyn pretty much refuses to leave his side but Nemik visits often as well, and they start talking. Jyn is very fond of him from the get-go, and I think through her, Cassian too would start hanging out more with Nemik, because god knows those two are attached at the hip as soon as he gets out of the medbay lmao
so literally everyone knows that Captain Andor and Sergeant Erso like each other, Nemik included, but getting them to realize it is proving to be a little harder than anticipated. Nemik wasn't going to get involved. yeah, he saw them in the hangar right before they left for Scarif, but they're adults who can figure it out for themselves, right? well, Bodhi is taking the exact opposite stance, so certain that they just need a little push, and it's very hard to say no to Bodhi and his puppy dog eyes. yeah, Nemik gets roped into this, but Bodhi just needs a partner in crime. (Baze refuses to get involved, Chirrut says all is as the force wills it. Kay wasn't even consulted)
together they go through all the classics of matchmaking: "accidentally" locking them in a supply closet, trying to make them jealous, we only have two rooms on this mission, you guys can share the double bed, right? etcetera... nothing works. Bodhi is losing his mind, but Nemik starts to feel a little suspicious... he knows they're both very intelligent people, but it's like they're not even noticing their less and less subtle and more and more desperate matchmaking attempts. it's downright strange. could they... no, surely not
but they could and they are. long story short: Jyn and Cassian are already together, and have been for a while, thank you very much. they preferred to keep it private at first because it's nobody's business, but the more Bodhi tried, the more it became about just messing with him on purpose. teaches you a lesson about meddling, I guess. (plus Jyn, with an alias, placed a bet on when they would get together so they could rake in the cash but shhhh, don't tell anyone)
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incognitajones · 1 year
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Trick or treat! Would love Rebelcaptain + ghostly. But if that doesn't inspire, please feel free to write whatever does. <3
Here it is, the last Trick or Treat ficlet! Thank you for being patient, @oh-nostalgiaa, and I hope you enjoy a little dark chocolate angst with your prompt...
[Note: elements from the Andor series canon up to episode 10]
The vague white blankness blinding Cassian solidifies into the sterile walls of his cell on Narkina 5. An alarm shrieks in his skull and Melshi is standing outside the doorway, staring at him—standing in the hall—
“Melshi!” Cassian shouts. He lunges to pull him inside, off the floor, away from the flashing red lights striping his face with blood. He reaches out and his fingertips claw at the sleeve of Melshi’s uniform but he falls, convulsing in a broken arc, and Cassian screams his throat hoarse—
Get a medroid in here, we need restraints on him
Whiteness broken by a thin black bar that wavers and stretches into the silhouette of a woman bending over him, long dark hair falling down around her face. Her eyes are ringed in bruises and her lip is split. Cassian blinks. “Bix? That you?” 
His skin burns, his bones ache. He’s curled around himself under the scant shelter of her house wall and it feels like he was dragged there through the streets of Ferrix. 
“Bix?” He struggles to sit up, reaching for her. She spits blood at him and turns away, fading into shadow. 
The fever’s not breaking
Light and darkness, a flash of motion ahead of him: someone running away through the unending forest of Kenari. Cassian races after the small fleeing figure although his pulse is pounding in his head and his breath is tearing his lungs in ragged gasps. He has to catch up with her. 
A root yanks at his foot and he trips, falling headlong into the dirt. “Wait! Kerri, wait!” 
But she doesn’t pause, doesn’t turn back—the last he sees of her is a flicker of dark hair vanishing into the trees.
A tight grip on his hand drags him back. The room is stark white again. Exhausted, Cassian closes his eyes and lets his head loll to the side, away from whoever’s there this time. Who is it: Kino, Nemik? It doesn’t matter—he’s a coward, who can’t stand to see another of those who are dead thanks to him. 
“Cassian? Do you know who I am?”
His hand is still engulfed in a warm grip, the fingers strong and rough. He doesn’t want to look, but he has to. She shouldn’t be here, she can’t, she was supposed to live…
Her face is pale, and under matted bangs, her eyelids are nearly translucent with fatigue. A scratch on her temple is still seeping blood. She doesn’t look ghostly, but then neither did any of the dead people he saw. 
“Jyn,” he rasps through cracked lips, staring at her. “Are you real? I mean, are you here?”
“I’m here.” Her hand tightens around his. “And I’m staying.” 
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rebelrainfall · 1 year
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fic title: make no sudden moves
Ok I'm cheating, because I know I'm supposed to make up something new based on the title but this reminds me juuust enough of a concept I've had floating around in my head for the past week that I'm using this as an excuse to subject y'all to that instead.
1 - He's 11, in his first year of school on Ferrix, and Kassa feels worthless. He's trying, he's trying so hard but he's alone, untethered and terrified in a place he doesn't know. He can barely speak Basic, much less read it, he can't focus in a classroom where nothing makes sense. When the teachers give up and send him home Maarva mutters that if only he'd only try a little bit harder, if he'd only appreciate the opportunity he has... She blames him for his failures and limitations and Kassa begins to wonder if she's right.
2 - He's 18, only just returned from prison, from war, and Cassian's hurt and angry and so, so tired. He feels guilty for leaving Maarva on her own, a feeling she does little to discourage, and when he gets a job at the shipyards he gives much of his income to her because as her health slowly declines so does her ability to work. But everything he does seems to upset her, she always has some kind of criticism for him. He's not picking up enough hours, he's not making up for the schooling he missed, he's wasting too much of his time with the wrong crowd. Nothing he does is ever enough, and Cassian is losing the ability to care anymore.
3 - He's 25, a valuable asset to the Rebel Alliance. What family he had is gone and the only thing Cassian has left is the next mission. His superiors task him with more and more every day and he's only ever as good as his last success or failure. He knows every mistake he makes is entirely on him, and lives hang in the balance more often than not. He can't do enough. He's not enough.
+1
He's 27, and Jyn can't help but notice how afraid of messing up Cassian is in everything he does, but especially in their developing relationship. He apologizes to her for tiny, harmless things no matter if she tells him not to worry about them, he hides his feelings from her when he's angry or sad, and when she's upset, even when it isn't with him, he always seems braced for the worst. It breaks her heart to see, and she starts on a mission to prove to him that he doesn't need to prove himself to her.
She loves him so much she hardly knows what to do with it and Force help her, she'll go to the ends of the galaxy to make him believe it. He'll always be enough for her.
Thank you for the ask! <3🥰
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buckybarnesss · 1 year
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BixCassian has so much more history and chemistry than JynCassian would ever have even if they lived. It’s not about “ship wars” as some of you people say, is about seeing the obvious that many of you just choose to ignore. You can’t compare his first love, the girl that has known him for all his life, the one that he sneaked in the late night to see when they were young, the one that knows all his secrets and the one that he loved with all his heart with some girl he knew for a day or two and never showed any sign of affection to him. JynCassian shippers need to deal with this fact
i could ignore this but i'm just petty enough not to. you came into my ask box after all and i'm assuming you've been the one sending this kind of nonsense to other rebelcaptain shippers as well.
you want attention. you want us to get baited and be all oh my god i never saw it that way you are so right anon. you want a little ship war.
you are expecting a level of care about other other people's shipping preferences i just don't have.
i have tumblr savior and i know how to close a tab. anon, you know why i have tumblr savior and the good sense cultivated multiple decades on the internet?
i was there gandolf. i was there 3000 years ago in the trenches of harmony versus the good ship you will never be on that level.
but you should look into using tools to cultivate your online experience rather than leaving anon messages trying to bait people.
anyway
it's funny you say shit like this because bix caleen was created for andor she did not exist as a concept for rogue one. so i don't know what you want me to do about that? is this something that you, perhaps are mad about? that jyn erso existed first and the narrative of rogue one positions cassian and jyn as mirrors and foils to each other? that there's a lot of parallels and soulmatism surrounding jyn and cassian's relationship? and your preferred ship exists in canon as exes?
anon, what i really think is that you have a narrow idea of love and a romanization of first loves.
i think bix and cassian as first loves is sweet and the care they have for each other remains but lol that relationship is a hot mess and unsustainable.
they are exes for a reason and it's because bix values herself as a person and not only expects better from cassian but deserves better from him. the cassian we meet on ferrix is a hot mess and is so emotionally unavailable he might as well be located in another sector.
i'm not even gonna address how you think cassian had no affection for jyn because lol home boy is straight up obsessed with her from the jump. also cassian and jyn wanted to fuck realllllllll bad. sorry.
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jyndor · 1 year
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“So did cassian find bix before he went on hugging another woman and die? BECAUSE DUDE THAT GIRL TORTURED OUTTA HER MIND (because of u) AND STILL TRUSTS YOU” - a very idiot comment someone made under a post of Jyn and Cassian pictures on Twitter. ISTG some people who joined the fandom after Andor don’t have a single working braincell like wtf dude
lol for as smart a show as andor is, I really wonder about some of its viewers 🤣🤣
first off, again I have to remind folks that rogue one was written first and by different people, so if you have a problem with something that happened in the show because it doesn't necessarily track with the film... just because YOU saw the film for the first time after the show doesn't mean the film is wrong for not having perfect continuity with the show.
we can use our brains and recognize that tony gilroy didn't like idk time travel to make cassian fall in love with the main character of the film instead of, what, apologizing to the character he created years after the film came out. it's one thing to criticize the writers of the show for putting bix through a more graphic trauma than almost any singular character in the show (save for cassian but I mean he's the titular character and we knew he was gonna go through shit) and doing it for the sake of a male character's story arc - a criticism of the writers, an out-of-universe analysis. it's another entirely to make an in-universe criticism of cassian for... well let's go through the chain of events:
cassian listens to his mother when she said to leave her behind because he is wanted for killing the mall cops (they don't know that the empire is looking for him bc he is a link to luthen)
he gets profiled and brutalized by the cops on his little vacation, thrown into a labor camp and is unable to go back for her like he said he would because again, he's in a CONCENTRATION CAMP.
maarva is unknowingly inspired by cassian's team on aldhani which is partly why she doesn't want to leave ferrix (it's her home, I can't fault her for that even though she is Not my fave) and decides to rebel by... idk not taking care of herself (actually some interesting commentary on how activists burn themselves out and don't take care of themselves but that's for another post).
because cassian respects maarva's wishes for him, he is not around to help take care of her - which we know other community members like bix have done before anyway
bix and brasso along with the daughters of ferrix etc are trying to get maarva to take care of herself, but maarva is getting ill because she's older and over-exerting herself for a non-existent rebellion - which hey again cool no problem, she's trying to fight the empire even though everyone else is complacent.
bix sees that maarva really needs help, knows that cassian is gone because in part SHE told him to fuck off, wants help from luthen so she can find cassian and uses the secret comms in the paaks' shop to reach luthen.
the imperials arrest salman, torture him and then arrest bix and torture her. salman is executed.
but this is missing a critical first point: the imperial occupation of ferrix. everything else is a response to the empire and to imperialism. everything: cassian kills the mall cops (tools of the empire) in episode one because they are xenophobic and profile him; they are an immediate threat to his life. that brings mr cereal over, who fucks up the "investigation" that no one wanted so badly it ends in a full blown imperial occupation. but the empire is already present in their use of the corporate mall cops to marginalize working class communities like ferrix.
the first violence is the occupation and the imperial machine (and im not even talking about the republic and the cis's colonialism but we can include them too because its all part of the problem). everything else is a reaction to an oppressor. kassa and the kenari kiddos go after the separatist ship and try to attack the people on board because they are the likely reason for the exploitation of their planet and the probable genocide of their people. cassian kills the cops because they threaten him due to their fragile egos and xenophobia. he has to leave ferrix and his mother because as maarva says, he can't stay and she can't leave (I guess although lol I mean she could). and so on.
actions don't just have consequences. actions have reactions. everything cassian does is a reaction to oppression- he tells jyn as much in rogue one ("everything I did, I did for the rebellion"). and for all of my critiques of the show, andor sticks to its thesis that rebellion can look like many things and that cassian does nothing but resist oppression his whole life.
to blame cassian for the empire torturing bix is such a shockingly bad read of the show because the show's very foundation is that the original act of violence is imperialism and fascism, and its victims are not to blame for their reactions to it, no matter how pragmatic or radical or violent.
cassian didn't get bix tortured. the empire tortured bix because it was trying to play divide and conquer with marginalized people, and it didn't work.
lol now I have to go to work but just a side note: I wouldn't trust anyone who has that kind of take on a fictional show about imperialism and fascism to stand with real world marginalized groups when they fight real world oppression.
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