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back on my bullshit (assigning every song I hear to cql characters and plotting out elaborate fics i will never write)
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Lan Wangji Goes To Lotus Pier AU: Part 4: Deranged Bedfellows
(Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4.5)
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#mdzs au#lan wangji#nie huaisang#Yungmeng Jiang training arc AU#This is the *first* part of what was supposed to be a much longer comic (LWJ's morning routine in full).#I'll finish the remaining part as a reblog to this post! I just think this is the funnier chunk.#Lan Wangji absolutely is the kind of person who has a perfect internal alarm clock for when it is time to get up.#He already has a dedicated sleep schedule. He is accurate within 10 seconds of 5am every day.#I think the Jiang disciples are most likely used to waking up around 6:00-7:00am#But the allure of having a guaranteed time keeper getting you up in the morning is worth the earlier hour.#I imagine they started outside lwj's door and slowly moved closer as the weeks went on.#Now LWJ has to cope with being way too warm in the night from all the extra body heat.#LWJ is not a fan of this but they scamper off immediately after he wakes up and they at least show initiative to follow routine.#NHS joins in only because he is a chronically heavy sleeper and needs this level of intervention to get up early.#His boldness would be a death sentence in the cloud recesses but here? Whole new game.#Yungmeng Jiang isn't a lawless land. It's just a land with different laws.#And one of those laws is to forcefully domesticate the catboy coded Lan boy through any means necessary.#Completely different tangent: I drew the thumbnail for this before I did comic 134. I then realized they had the same visual gag.#So I had to space this one out so it didn't seem like I repeated the waking up joke. That's my secret and all of you have to keep it.#And in my land the law is that snitches get itches (telepathically transfers hives onto your body)
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Nie Mingjue's Fatal Journey crying scenes appreciation post
There's no way I wouldn't make this post, but it ended up way longer than I intended.
Fighting with Huaisang
When is this man not tearing up?
This fight is so important for Huaisang's character development and the movie's themes, with Huaisang being ready to challenge and question the Nie ways and Mingjue doing his best to uphold those traditions and keep the peace through the only way he knows how.
But it's still hard to be challenged like this and to face the possibility that everything you've ever known might not be right, actually.
And this gif specifically is from the moment Huaisang questions if Mingjue even knows what they're there to fight and what this supposed great evil that will come to Qinghe if they fail to balance their blades even is. Mingjue has no answer, of course, I suppose he was only taught this and never had reason to question it.
But Huaisang is also talking about the disciples they already 'lost' at this point of the movie, and he says something along the lines of " You don't know anything, you only know how to bring them here to die" and that does it. Because it's both "you can't follow these rules blindly when they rely on sacrificing people" and "you've changed and I don't trust your judgement on these matters anymore".
And as he says it, Mingjue looks at their disciples and he sees the puppets for a moment. And Huaisang just questioned if the other disciples were really attacked by puppets.
So that's a big moment and Huaisang is right, of course, but he doesn't have a confirmation that this is the result of Mingjue's health deterioration yet, so he keeps pushing. And Mingjue doesn't really have a counter argument because he knows what's going on with him, but it must be very scary to hear it from the person you care about the most and realize just how much you're being affected.
(Actually, Mingjue has one counter argument and that is "Well, I am at least trying to do something while you're painting and living a carefree life", and he's not wrong either. Huaisang is right and rightfully harsh, but this is the first time he's being confronted with these difficult choices and all their family history. He can reflect on and question it, but his brother has been meking those hard decisions since he was 14, when did he ever had a break to question and change things?)
Which leads us to
The Talk
After seeing his brother sacrifice himself for him at the bridge, and then seeing Mingjue be so vulnerable and lost, that anger from their fight is gone. They can meet in the middle with "You are right, I wasn't thinking straight, this is not a long term solution and I've failed at changing our ways" and "It's not your fault, you did everything you could but you're not responsible for this situation" and it's very beautiful and heartbreaking.
Mingjue is so remorseful, both because he has condemned Huaisang to die with him and because he feels like he failed everyone and everything (even if he doesn't seem to know what he could have done differently to avoid all this).
And Huaisang's reaction in this scene is so calm it made me think this Huaisang is somewhat used to his brother displaying vulnerability around him. This isn't book NMJ with all his victories, this isn't a man who never let the Unclean Realm be conquered and who could afford to keep Huaisang far away from the war. This is a man who was attacked and subdued in his own home, who had to send Huaisang to the hands of the people who killed their father.
This Huaisang doesn't have reasons to see Mingjue as this unmovable force, he has seen Mingjue hurt and threatened and fearful; and he's now seeing him remorseful and defeated.
(I'm sure Mingjue telling Huaisang about the fact that he's dying and admiting his mistakes and insecurities is something new, especially considering their previous fight, but this Huaisang doesn't take it as a shock, because he knows his brother is only human and there's only so much he can handle. He even, like, explicitly says this)
And so he assumes this calm, reassuring and empathetic posture, because that's what his brother is asking for. And it's the most beautiful thing, Huaisang has so much love for him, so much empathy. And this is Mingjue's reaction to his brother's reassurance that it's okay if they have to die there:
I'm sure Huaisang is still processing Mingjue's "I only forced you to practice because I'll die soon", but he's so good at reassuring his brother.
Because Mingjue just told him "I am dying and I'll go as a failure" and Huaisang insisted "None of this is your fault and you did everything you could and more, and if I have to die here with you today, I don't regret a thing, and you shouldn't either".
There's no despair or anger that his brother is only telling him this now, there's only understanding and acceptance and so much love and they really knew what they were doing with this movie.
His people love him
Mingjue is so moved. He just admitted to Huaisang that he's not in peace with his accomplishments, or lack thereof; that he feels ashamed to face his ancestors, having done so little.
So I truly believe Mingjue doesn't consider himself worthy of this much trust and support. (And I can't ignore how this is tied to the Nightless City situation, where he led the men who trusted him with their lives to a dangerous situation and couldn't save any of them).
As we see in the confrontation at Jinlintai, that technically happens after this movie, that is still a very sensitive topic.
And here he has his loyal disciples saying they will follow him yet again, despite his previous 'failures'; just like Huaisang was ready to die with him. They have so much trust in him, and the way he's nodding a little here, just like he was nodding when Huaisang reminded him of everything he's done for their sect since their father died, is like he's convincing himself of it. That he can do this and he can do this right this time.
And yet
He fails again. And I don't even think he knows it was him who killed those disciples, like some people say. He doesn't need to because it doesn't matter. His men, who followed him till the end of the world, are dead again. And so is the hope he had of doing this one right thing before he dies.
Yes, he supressed the saber spirit like he had to, but they're still dead, all of them.
He falls apart, how could he not?
At some point I'm sure Huaisang his holding all his weight because he just gives up. There's only so much loss one can handle and that's way too much.
And look at the way Huaisang is watching him as he realizes something inside Mingjue shattered forever.
There's so much pain in this scene, it looks physically taxing and I hope people gave Wang Yizhou a break after he shot this. I know it's his job and he's phenomenal at it, but this has to mess with your head a little.
And hey, it's a Huaisang crying scene as well. CQL Huaisang only really cries twice. First he watches his brother have a mental breakdown in his arms after unknowingly killing his own disciples; and then as he watches his brother qi deviate and die, while unable to do anything to either stop or comfort him.
(And a lot of people said there's no hesitation on Huaisang's part when he rushes to his brother's aid when Mingjue is hurt on this post's notes, and that's true for book Huaisang too, because he runs towards Mingjue as he is qi deviating, gets hurt in the process, and still keeps calling for him, which makes CQL's decision to have JGY holding him back kind of cruel, tbh, there's not a Huaisang who would run from a hurting Mingjue regardless of the risks
But at least we have this scene.)
And that's it, I guess. There's nothing uplifting to say about this, really. He just went through a lot and kept shouldering everything until he couldn't anymore. I just wish book NMJ had gotten to receive the same love and comfort and acceptance from NHS before he died, I wish he had been able to tell his brother what was actually happening, but thats kind of the purpose of this movie, so I'm just very grateful that it exists.
It's like that post says, it didn't change anything but the love was there, you know? That's how this movie feels for me.
#nie mingjue#nie huaisang#fatal journey#cql#long post#now this is meta with gifs#sorry i can't even attempt to joke a little about this movie everything is just sad from start to finish#the gifs might look worse than the ones on the other post and that's me not knowing how to deal with fatal journey being so dark and green#that talk they have feels kind of like an absolution for nmj doesn't it#book nmj deserved that too#oh yes we have two tearing up scenes#one crying scene#and one bawling his eyes out scene#on a movie that is less than 1 hour and a half long so he's crying the entire time; really
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The Sin List
okay, so as we all know, it is vitally important that any character we stan must be morally pure and a good example to emulate in real life.
So I have decided to create a list of MDZS characters and their sins, which everyone can easily refer to in order to make sure that they are not following some horrible criminal or murderer!
This was a lot of work, but I'm very proud of it. Just doing my bit to ensure the moral purity of the fandom!
Wei Wuxian - Necromancy, disrespecting his elders, disrespecting the dead, killed Jin Zixuan, punched Jin Zixuan in the face one time, cannibalism, mind control, deviant sexual fantasies, trespassing, oath-breaking, urged Wen Qing to perform untested and possibly fatal operation on Jiang Cheng without his consent.
Lan Wangji - Defied his elders, broke the Lan Clan rules, sexually assaulted Wei Wuxian, deviant sexual fantasies, GBH (JGY)
Jin Guangyao - betrayed and killed Wen Ruohan, betrayed and killed Jin Guangshan, murder (NMJ), murdered assorted people, disrespecting the dead, assorted Spy Things for Wen Ruohan.
Nie Mingjue - Killed a lot of people during the war, verbally abused Nie Huaisang, burned Nie Huaisang's stuff, attempted murder (JGY), attempted murder (JGY), attempted murder (JGY), murder (JGY), killed the Mo family (well, his arm did anyway). In favor of the genocide of the Wen Remnants
Jin Guanshan: Sexual assault, rape, murder, ordering human experimentation with resentful energy to be done by his sect, played both sides during the war, didn't take responsibility for his children, ultimately responsible for getting WWX killed because he wanted the YTT so bad
Wen Ruohan: Attempted world domination, murder etc
Lan Qiren: has a stick up his ass
Su Minshan: Refused to die for the Lan, supported JGY in his efforts to prevent undead Da-ge from killing him. Also cursed Jin Zixun.
Sect Leader Yao: Weathervane politician
Jiang Wanyin: strangled Wei Wuxian that one time, keeps trying to talk to him but is way too tsundere about it, killed many during the war, didn't immediately forgive WWX for getting JYL killed, threatens to break Jin Ling's legs weekly.
Jin Ling: rude. rude rude rude. Also stabbed WWx one time
Lan Jingyi: not respecting his elders, rude rude rude. Also loud
JFM: shit dad, throw him in a volcano
Madame Yu: Angry mom, beat Wei Wuxian for things that weren't his fault, yelled at JC a lot, didn't appreciate JYL, very mean.
Lan Xichen: killed people during the war. Randomly starts doing flute solos in conversation
Meng Shi: was a prostitute. Told Meng Yao his dad was amazing and he should totally look him up later.
Madam Jin: awful person, she can go into the volcano with JFM. physical and verbal abuse (JGY)
Nie Huaisang: killed cats, nearly killed the juniors, let his sect fall into ruin, traded obscene materials, disrespecting his sect's traditions, lied to Lan Xichen to make him kill JGY
Wen Qing: went along with WRH's plans, performed surgery on JC without his consent
Wen Ning: Was part of the burning of LP
Mo Xuanyu: Summoned Satan to murder his relatives, harassed his brother
Jin Zixun: asshole, rude, broke the Geneva Convention on the ethical treatment of prisoners several times. Useless person
FOR THE SAKE OF SAFETY AND YOUR MORALS YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO STAN THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERS
Jiang Yanli
Qin Su
Lan Shizui
#Wombat rambles#wombat's danmei hours#Jin Guangyao#meng yao#Lan Xichen#LXC#My favourite son-in-law#best boy lan Xichen#not a himbo#mzds#mo dao zu shi#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#wei wuxian#lan wangji#nie huaisang#nie Mingjue#NONE OF YOU ARE FREE OF SIN
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Chu Wanning: I have the sex appeal of a math textbook
Mo Ran: I don’t know about everyone else but, like, there wasn’t ever a time where I’ve opened up a math textbook and didn’t say “fuck me”
#*cue xue meng accidentally walking in on them*#poor mengmeng will never recover 😔#apparently I spent 4 hours streaming myself making nie huaisang bobble head… AND IT’S STILL NOT DONE#i literally forgot to eat i’m actually so hungry#rip me who bought spices instead of actual food like good job i’m being such a good adult rn#drowning my pizza in red chili pepper flakes#ranwan#mo ran#chu wanning#2ha incorect quotes#erha#erha he ta de bai mao shizun#二哈和的白貓師尊
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dancing together
#my art#digital art#phone art#click on image/picture for better quality#no speed art#fan art#fanart#mo dao zu shi#mdzs#mdzs fanart#sangxian#wei wuxian#nie huaisang#this drawing took 5 hours and 59 minutes#2/3/2024#febuary 3rd 2024
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Sangcheng week Day 2 - Music
Even with all the effort that Nie-zongzhu put into not cultivating properly with the Nie sabers, he still starts suffering from Qi deviations just like his predecessors, due to accumulated heart demons from the past decade. He vehemently refuses to be treated with the song of clarity for the longest time and only finally relents when he is promised to be held through it and kept safe by his beloved.
(this time i went with the live-action flavour because i never tried that before and it was pretty fun change actually haha)
#my art#sangcheng week 23#sangcheng week 2023#sangcheng#nie huaisang#jiang cheng#mdzs#oughhh ykno hfgjhfdk#little meow meow whos condition is getting worse and he knows it but cant stomach the thought of being treated this way for obvious reasons#or paranoid NHS that goes 'normally they could kill me with it but since JC is here theyre not gonna im fair game but they wouldnt hurt him#ok ok ok whatever 😭😭#hkfd again u can interpret this however you like also#with even whos treating him like is it random disciple or LWJ or LXC or LQR etc etc#i personally am leaning towards LWJ because they should be friends cuz i said so ok#(and lxc is in the middle of struggle hours so jhfjdh)
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Nie Huaisang: *sighs* time to commit myself to revenge ig
#he says this like he hasn’t been sobbing for the past three hours with tears streaking down his face#nie huaisang#mdzs#cql#the untamed#mdzs meme#cql meme#the untamed meme#incorrect mdzs#incorrect cql#incorrect the untamed
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Hot take: Modern AU versions of Huaisang’s aesthetic usually boil down to “hot girl summer”: crop tops, shorts, wild clothes, etc. Shouldn’t he be “dark academia” instead?
Look at what he usually wears in-canon. There’s no one more wrapped up than he is! You tell me that Modern AU Huaisang would not be into sweaters and jackets and horn-rimmed glasses and know how to accessorize like the best of them.
TL;DR Give me dark academia Huaisang!
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Already eliminated:
8. Nie Mingjue
9. Song Lan
10. Jin Zixuan
11. Xue Yang
12. Jin Guangyao
13. Su She
14. Jin Zixun
15. Wen Chao
#The Untamed#Chen Qing Ling#CQL#Mo Dao Zu Shi#MDZS#Wei Wuxian#Lan Wangji#Jiang Cheng#Lan Xichen#Nie Huaisang#Wen Ning#Xiao Xingchen#Wei Ying#Lan Zhan#poll#original#Sorry I'm a couple hours late! I got distracted watching a show with a friend and I totally forgot about my poll! >.<
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the problem with people like nie huaisang who only act when pushed is that they're only ever reacting. the tragedy had to happen before he would do anything about it, instead of him doing something to prevent the tragedy.
#it's a really good fatal flaw honestly!#it makes NHS so much more interesting to me than if he's some kind of avenging angel#a lot of the misery in his life is of his own making; a direct result of his tenderly-cultivated lifelong inaction#i guess it's Thinking Intently About NHS Hours again....don't worry this always happens. it'll pass soon enough#nie huaisang#mdzs
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going to think about how NMJ died before he turned 30 the same way his father died (at probably older than thirty but we don't actually know that) and then about how NHS at the temple was older than NMJ ever got to be and oh boy! time to lie down and cry again because why not!!!
After nearly/possibly half his life spent trying to get some sort of justice for his father's death (while people routinely pretended things were fine) and the Sunshot Campaign (which was a war that gave lots of other people trauma and ptsd) he spent the last year or more of his life going insane (caused by external sources) and then died.
do I have anything coherent to say about this? no! no I don't! I just scream into the void about the Nie bros forever!
#da-ge posting hours again#this is a nie brothers stan blog in case you couldn't tell#nie mingjue#nie huaisang#this isn't even meta this is just me screaming into the void#thinking about how NMJ spent his teens 1) raising NHS and 2) having to go to work parties with his father's murderer#and not cause an incident about it#and then his twenties either 1) fighting in sunshot or 2) actively dying post sunshot#does it ever drive anyone else insane to think about this
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objectively the best panels from the mdzs manhua ♡
[id: an image with two colour-edited panels from the mo dao zu shi manhua. the first shows three versions of nie huaisang in a chibi style, holding a folding fan to his cheek, holding it up to admire it, and kissing it. there are sparkles and a few hearts in the foreground, and two large fans make up the background. the second shows nie huaisang in the regular art style with flushed cheeks and a happy expression as he holds a fan close to his face. there are again sparkles in the foreground, and a large folding fan in the background. end id.]
#nie huaisang#mdzsnet#mxtxnet#mdzs manhua#mo dao zu shi#i spent an hour on this instead of writing (: i mean worth it because baby boy baby#but i'm SUPPOSED to write about his brother... sigh#anyway. loml. prettiest little bird. i love him so much#this is an accurate representation of how i feel about him tbh. just the best boy.#nhs#mymdzs#mdzsedit#mdzs: all
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i was digging through my spotify playlists earlier today and found this one for nie huaisang which has (1) song on it
#like im Right but still wtf lmao#nie huaisang#my nmj and jgy and nieyao playlists are all 1+ hour long and yet this i think is the best one#Spotify
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Have a new Meng Yao gif I made instead of trying to regain an almost acceptable sleeping rhythm.
#could look at him for hours#I will look at him for hours#he's laughing at nie Huaisang#meng yao gif#my gif#meng yao#cql meng yao#zhu zanjin#cql#the untamed#the untmed gif#cql gif#jin guangyao#jgy#akikos shitpost#cdrama
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I wonder if Lan Xichen ever thinks of Nie Mingjue. I wonder if he remembers the warnings Nie Mingjue had given him, if he remembers the words he'd said about A-Yao that he had brushed off and the fights he had stopped. I wonder if he doubts himself– was it right to step in, then? Was it wrong? Does it matter, when the ending itself was what it was? I wonder if Lan Xichen thinks about how he was the one to teach Meng Yao the song of Clarity. I wonder if he thinks about the jade token he gave Meng Yao.
I wonder what he thinks when he looks at Huaisang.
#the untamed#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#lan xichen#nie huaisang#nie mingjue#jin guangyao#random thoughts of mine#heart hurts#sad xichen hour
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