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wawamouse · 1 month
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When I was growing up, both my father and my grandfather came to Oz, you know? And when I was little, I always wondered what was so great about prison that they'd wanna leave us and come here.
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emeraldcityoz · 25 days
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OZ - Short Film
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scurvyratt · 6 months
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Oz characters who would be on Tik Tok:
Busmalis: He wouldn't really get it but would have an ironic turned wholesome fandom😭
Kenny: posting thirst traps probably 😭😭
Omar: his fyp would be very bizarre
Poet: He'd either have actual fans or ppl would be making fun of him in the comments lol
Pancamo: He'd post vids of himself shirtless + flexing and middle aged women with a filter on would stitch it and thirst over him
Ryan: He'd probably be very problematic but uncancellable like Trisha Paytas
Chico: Idk what he would post but he's def fighting people in the comments 😭😭😭😭
Miguel: He'd be normal I think lol
Morales: He'd be in the comments of women's vids like "Wow you are so beautiful😍😍😍😍😍"
Hill: Probably posting self betterment stuff idk lol
Honorable mentions:
Said: He'd be posting political things on Facebook. His younger followers are begging him to make a Tik Tok but he thinks it's stupid
Tobias: You can only find him on Linkedin
Keller: probably posts minion memes on facebook
McManus: Lurks on Facebook
Schillinger: Posts maga stuff on Facebook and other boomer nostalgia content lol. Thinks Tik Tok is turning kids trans 😭
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ozimagines · 1 month
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The Trouble with Robson…
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So… I’ve seen some discourse on this site about James Robson… and I want in lol.
I’ve got a lot of thoughts about this man, and based on everything I’ve read from other Oz fans, I might have an unpopular opinion.
Please don’t get me wrong! Season 2-Season 5 he was a tremendous piece of shit. Like in every way possible it is to be a piece of shit. But that said I have two points: 1) that’s what makes him an good CHARACTER, not a good person, and 2) a redemption arc doesn’t mean that person is automatically forgiven, but are going down a better path and MIGHT be forgiven for their actions at a later date. It is with this, your honor, that I submit that Robson’s redemption arc was actually one of the better plot lines in Oz. (Please don’t hate me lol)
Okay, so Robson season two, pretty easy to characterize. He’s a Nazi. He’s violent. He’s a rapist. Very easy to hate. Season three, he’s lieutenant to Vern Schillinger in the Aryan Brotherhood. He boxes and such. In season four, he’s a menace, coming into his own character. He threatens on his own and has his own plot lines now. Season five is more of the same, at first, he rapes Peter Schibetta, he tries to ruin Beecher’s life, etc. He commits one of the more heinous of his crimes in my book when he kills the young Muslim man in the store room. A long, drawn out process that James is smiling through. He LOVES violence. More than anything he seems like he was made for prison. Then he learns about his gums, makes racist remarks to the doctor, one thing leads to another, he has black man gums and gets kicked out of the brotherhood.
He’s destitute and alone, which is all he deserves. But even Kareem Said finds pity for him and says “God is trying to teach you something. Please be smart enough to learn.”. What can even God attempt to teach someone like James Robson? He does what he needs to survive. He joins Cutler and agrees to be his prag. Here’s where some views from other Oz fans and I start to diverge. You look at videos on YouTube, many of the comments you’ll find say “good, he deserved it.”. The best argument I heard for this was actually from Funky Frog Bait on YouTube talking about misgendering murderers. Many people misgendered the nonbinary Nashville shooter. Why would you respect the pronouns for a person that horrible? Because, as Funky Frog Bait said in their video, it revolves around your opinion of gender as a whole. If you can just revoke someone’s preferred pronouns when they’re bad people, how “bad” does a trans person have to be to not have their pronouns respected? People of differing “politics” (morals) say different things, but if we apply this argument to Robson’s situation, I think it has to do with one’s overall view of rape. How “bad” does someone have to be before being raped is considered a reasonable punishment? For me, it’s never. For me, just as in never revoking someone’s right to their preferred pronouns, I also think it’s never justifiable to rape someone. So, no, I don’t think Robson deserved to be raped, even though he was a serial rapist himself, because there’s no situation where I think rape is a justifiable response. People may disagree with me, but I think it’s a slippery slope when you can deem someone as deserving of rape.
We learn during this time, as he’s being beaten and abused sexually by Cutler, that James was beaten and abused by his father as a kid. He confirms that this occurred while he was only five years old. His first introduction to life and sex was violence. Maybe this gives you sympathy for him, as it did me, but maybe you say fuck him, it doesn’t excuse anything. But I don’t think that it was meant to be an excuse, I think it was meant to be an EXPLANATION. I think we were learning how he became James Robson of unit B, not justifying his actions as James Robson of unit B. He was a child and the person he was supposed to trust most in this world gave him very harsh lessons very early on: no one cares about you, and do what you need to do to survive. He becomes demure and pitiful in Sister Pete’s office. One line that stuck with me was “here I am, 35 years old and I have nowhere to run.”. He’s been running his whole life. Running away from an abusive father and running away from his own actions. “I shame to think of what I’ve done. Look on it again, I dare not.” Is Cutler’s line as MacBeth in the play. It is an apt line for James. He’s been running from his own actions for as long as he could remember. Like I said, none of this justifies the lives he’s ruined and taken, but it does explain the inter-workings of a character that was pretty static for four seasons. That he survives. He tells Sister Peter Marie that all he does is run from things. I truly believe that some of the reason he was able to be as ruthless as he was is because he doesn’t let himself think about his own actions.
Finally season 6! He kills Cutler with some kinky play, joins the brotherhood, and it seems like he’s back, right? Only when he sees his wife, we see some of the shame come back. Some of the embarrassment of being taken in that way. If he feels this way now, he felt this way for however long his dad was abusing him. He loses it with her for calling him a “cock sucker”, which CLEARLY he’s embarrassed/ashamed about. He hurts her, and immediately, instantly, feels bad about it. I love learning the morality of immoral characters. With everything he’s done, why was hurting his wife crossing a line? Because she trusts him, just like little James trusted his dad. I think, personally, that he sees himself as her personal protector. Since he couldn’t protect himself, he became the protector for her, and then for Vern, but James isn’t stupid enough to think Vern can’t take care of himself. I think hurting his wife tore him up so much because he remembers when he relied on his dad for everything, and his father took advantage of his state.
Then he finds out he has AIDS. He joins a support group for rape survivors. They talk about their experiences and James listens to all of them. He thanks them towards the end, saying it was good to “hear it from both sides” which we know is something he knew already since he was at least five. But hearing those stories, all of which are upsetting but some are straight gruesome, puts FORCES him to face his actions. He can’t run anymore, his lifestyle caught up with him. Am I saying he deserves AIDS? 🤷‍♀️ Chissà. Who’s to say? He has it though. There’s a deleted scene where he lets Clarence rape him (I understand “lets” and “rape” don’t make much sense together but I don’t think coerced consent is consent at all so it’s still assault), and it gives Clarence AIDS. Robson says something interesting, with his classic smile on his face. “Retribution. It’s all about retribution.”. That’s what Oz is about. Retribution. It should be about Rehabilitation, but it’s all about Retribution. This is where James’ story ends on the show. With him moving to unit F, the AIDS unit. Finally, even if only physically, is he forced to face his actions.
This is why I think his story was beautifully written. He’s just a meathead in the beginning, but we learn about his morality -because he does have a code, even if it’s not a good one-, his past, and his future. They took a character that was frankly very flat and gave us a wide enough view on his life and character to confuse our anger into sympathy into more anger and into sadness. I don’t know if anyone else felt this way but my heart just dropped when he mentioned his dad. James Robson never stood a chance. He was a monster in training since he was five. But no one deserves to be raped. (A good reference is Adam Gunzel who was a BIG prick… but never deserved that shit.) Anyway these are just some of my thoughts on one of the most interesting characters in Oz (to me at least) and gave us an actual character out of a plotless muscle man.
One thing I think we can all agree on:
Retribution. It’s all about retribution.
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mercy-misrule · 1 year
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Thinking about the time Lee Tergesen guested on SVU and he and Christopher Meloni had this wild, intense moment, for absolutely no reason. It's literally just for Oz fans only. It's so funny, totally out of nowhere, and completely out of character for Stabler.
But you simply must have them be like this. Beecher and Keller for life, I figure.
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betelgo0ze · 3 months
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Dating Tobias Beecher headcanons!
-He leaves you for a man
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callmebrycelee · 2 months
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HAPPY 63RD BIRTHDAY, CHRIS MELONI!!!
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wat-the-cur · 1 month
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Might be a predictable thing to say, but I’ve always felt that Miguel was the person whom Father Ray “loved too much”.
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ozfandom · 1 month
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Oz Drabble Tree!
A new Oz drabble tree (our TWENTIETH tree!) is now up & running at the Oz Wishing Well community on Dreamwidth! Drabble trees are a fun, low-pressure Oz fandom tradition designed to encourage fans interested in writing Oz fic. Check out the rules & add more branches to the tree!
I'm Moving To Oz drabble tree on Dreamwidth
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wawamouse · 1 month
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Oz ⟶ Pain & Comfort (seasons 1-3)
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subwaywolf · 1 year
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Oz | 4.08 You Bet Your Life
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scurvyratt · 6 months
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ozimagines · 2 months
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Oz Characters Vs A Vending Machine
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Just a goofy one… tell me it’s not true tho😅
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mxrphy · 7 months
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guys have you heard harold perrineau monologue. because why does anyone else even try
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betelgo0ze · 24 days
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my thoughts on the new OZ spinoff short
I’d like to start out by saying no matter what, I’ll always love this. I may be sixteen and only have discovered OZ within the past two years but it is by far my favorite show and I cannot imagine how long the wait has been for all the older fans so getting into the fandom only two years ago didn’t give me much wait time lol so I can understand why some people may look over it BC we’ve waited so long. I watched Hazbin when I was eleven and I’ve waited for the show for five years so I understand to some capacity, but it’s been over two decades for yall.
I liked it for what it is. I liked that they did a bit of a “character study” but it felt unnecessary. They were just spilling tea on each other and it felt more like a fanfic than anything. I love Lee Tergensen but his acting felt a bit off to me. Dean Winters was a solid 9/10 tho lol, he’s always been a really good actor.
I also REALLY liked when Ryan referred to Chris as Toby’s boyfriend. Everyone always said they were either lovers or various slurs. Some people called them boyfriend and girlfriend but condescendingly. Ryan said it in a way where he simply judged the man Toby was with, not that Chris was a man. And also Toby not denying that they were boyfriends is everything to me.
one thing I REALLY REALLY hated tho was the sudden beef between O’Reily and Beecher. I don’t remember them fucking with each other at any point??? They were pretty chill, almost friends. Toby said that they were and Ryan said he never thought so but that simply isn’t true. Ryan may be a manipulative asshole but it’s still obvious that he was both Chris and Toby’s friend. He would hang out w/ both of them and genuinely liked them. For whatever reason Ryan’s pissed and I don’t see why. They made up some bullshit but they basically retconned half the show.
earlier today I was talking about how OZ was surprisingly consistent ESPECIALLY with Toby and Ryan’s unlikely friendship but this just shit on it.
realistically I’m disappointed but in my silly delulu mind this is not canon and while I can see it being so, they should have replaced Ryan with any other character. It could have all been the same with Ryan simply being an ass but warning Toby that someone from his past was after him and THAT would be a GREAT gateway into a new series if they wanted to. As much as I want more OZ content I don’t really think a spinoff would be good unless there multiple shorts/one-shots of the characters everyday lives and them just living w/o the serious drama. At the very least I think a new cast of characters would make it feel less like OZ and more like a show that takes place in a prison called OZ. OZ isn’t iconic for JUST the violence. It has romance and drama and genuine feelings.
meh I’m rambling.
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