I (and Kaydin) have reached a new low, I'm shipping bg characters x oc
All the stuff for Goth Boy is kind of a guesstimate based on the other bg characters he's seen around and his poses.
Kaydin was the one who pointed out how cute their opposite aesthtics were, with Damien's leaning cottage core and Goth boy's leaning well... gothic
You can find the template here: https://x.com/umseys/status/1778488238518198436
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one of these days there will be aesthtic based on the gangsta goth of the early 00s. im calling it now.
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A malicious "meme" has been circulating in Goth and Gothic themed Facebook groups. The main source is an account named "Thomas Thomas" that I suspect is a bot account designed to cause discord in Gothic circles. Rather than write something new, here is what I said about it in my Sandman Facebook group.
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I just saw a post with a "meme" of "Real Goths" and a "Poseur" depicted as a little girl in Goth clothing who likes the look and is into faeries but isn't a fan of Goth music. The post even attempted to lampshade itself by acting like anyone who would call this behavior gatekeeping is an idiot or not a true Goth.
This is NOT a group to post pretentious garbage shaming people for liking Goth aesthetic. If someone likes the look, the ambiance, the mood, the themes, and isn't a fan of the music, you have no right to tell them how to dress or what they can or cannot love.
If someone likes Goth aesthetic but isn't a fan of the music... Leave them alone.
It could be that they are "Gothic" in a love of Gothic literature, film, or other media. No one ever told the Addams Family that they have to listen to The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, or Aurelio Voltaire (though they probably would love Voltaire).
Yes, Goth is about the music. But you are deliberately shaming people for having an interest in a Goth Aesthetic, there is a difference.
Neo Victorian is also a subset of Goth but you won't find any true Victorian Goth music.
And no, you don't need to know the whole history of the Punk scene but it does help and The Ramones song Pet Sematary (deliberately misspelt as it is named for the Stephen King novel) is very Goth.
Whether you want to accept it or not, there ARE different kinds of Goth. Making a "meme" acting like some Baby Bat can't like Goth aesthtics just because she's not into the music and likes faeries is not okay! Stop acting like pretentious teenagers! Saying "It's not gatekeeping" doesn't make it any less gatekeeping.
What are you doing?! What the Hell do you think you're doing?! Shaming children for dipping their toes in? Trying to scare them away? And you don't think that's Gatekeeping and even go "it's not Gatekeeping" to lampshade it!
I don't know what possessed you to think I'd be okay with that kind of "It's not gatekeeping!" post here.
KNOCK IT OFF!!!!
The anti-faeries thing was odd considering Maleficent, and the folkloric presence of things like the Dullahan (headless Horsemen), goblins, Banshees, and Red caps (who literally soak their caps in the blood of those they killed). A Banshee is a type of faary. Bean Sidhe (Lady Faery). Souls of the dead can become fae in Irish tradition. And there is a very popular Goth band named for Banshees.
I have banned the person who made the post with the "not gatekeeping" "meme" because of the conspicuous picture of random white guy in sunglasses (the common troll account picture now). The account name was "Thomas Thomas." (That looks SO real...) And he only had one follower.
Those of you that commented and AGREED with him, you are ALL on thin ice! How DARE you act this way here! How DARE you call yourselves Goth and then gatekeep while saying you're not gatekeeping. How DARE you treat newbies this way! How DARE you!
I consider myself Goth but I don't feel the need to like *All* Goth music. In fact, technically, my favorite 80s band is New Wave (Oingo Boingo) followed closely by Queen and David Bowie. Shall I turn in my Goth card?
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i dont wanna screenshot someone else's post but i did just see someone with one of those edgy kpop color-coordinated aesthetic posts using one of those "this is an exalting lair" windows title bar edits and like… who's gonna tell them
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