#good for nathan and pacey!!
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Pacey Witter 🤝 Nathan Scott
Punching out their shitty abusive fathers after they make derogatory statements about their significant others!!
#i don't condone violence but i do if they be abusive!#good for nathan and pacey!!#these pieces of shit deserve it#dawson's creek#one tree hill#dawson's creek: favorites#one tree hill: favorites#nathan scott#pacey witter#joshua jackson#james lafferty#lucas scott#deb scott#deb lee#dan scott#john witter
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my top 25 ships
okay so @userlaylivia answered a @maya-matlin ask about her top 25 ships earlier and for some reason my brain also needed to accept the challenge
1. Betty/Jughead (Riverdale)
2. Nancy/Ace (Nancy Drew)
3. Nate/Bronwyn (One of Us is Lying)
4. Jess/Rory (Gilmore Girls)
5. Pacey/Joey (Dawson’s Creek)
6. Seth/Summer (The OC)
7. JT/Liberty (Degrassi)
8. Nathan/Haley (One Tree Hill)
9. Rich/Grace (Skins)
10. Steven/Taylor (The Summer I Turned Pretty)
11. Jordan/Layla (All American)
12. JJ/Kiara (Outer Banks)
13. Shelby/Toni (The Wilds)
14. Janine/Gregory (Abbott Elementary)
15. Spencer/Olivia (All American)
16. Gert/Chase (Marvel’s Runaways)
17. Kate/Anthony (Bridgerton)
18. Lockwood/Lucy (Lockwood & Co)
19. Pip/Ravi (A Good Girl’s Guide to Murder)
no gif yet bc the show isn't out yet obvi but this is a book-to-show ship strong enough to already be on here <3
20. Veronica/Archie (Riverdale)
21. April/Andy (Parks and Rec)
22. Jim/Pam (The Office)
23. Luke/Lorelai (Gilmore Girls)
24. Matt/Julie (Friday Night Lights)
25. Casey/Izzie (Atypical)
Honorable mentions: Cheryl/Toni (Riverdale), Belly/Conrad (TSITP), Ryan/Marissa (The OC), Logan/Veronica (Veronica Mars), Brooke/Julian (One Tree Hill), David/Patrick (Schitt’s Creek)
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So I just realized that Emma from Degrassi reminds me a lot of Haley of One Tree Hill: very ethical and concerned with doing the right thing, academic, a little uptight/self-righteous (not sure these are the right adjectives here but you get the point!), kind, helpful, loyal and with a slight rebellious streak. I see Sean and Nathan as pretty similar too and think Emma and Haley both ended up with the perfect guys to complement them! Manny is even a little like Brooke. Anyway, do any other Degrassi characters remind you of characters from One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, Gilmore girls, or anything else else?!
Those are interesting comparison to make! Personally, I wouldn't have thought to compare Haley to Emma. To me, she's more of a mix of Clare and Maya than Emma. But you raise good points and I can definitely see where you're coming from there. Admittedly, I don't see a lot of Sean and Nathan parallels, but they're not.. totally opposite? It's just harder to overlook the class differences and Sean having more freedom and kind of being pushed out of his parents' lives vs Nathan who arguably had too much parental influence in all the wrong ways. But both had anger problems and benefited from knowing and falling for their main love interests. Manny and Brooke make a lot of sense! Hmm, I'd have to think. Off the top of my head:
Zig Novak - Pacey Witter (Dawson's Creek)
Sean Cameron - Ryan Atwood (The OC)
Ellie Nash - Peyton Sawyer (OTH)
Fiona Coyne - Blair Waldorf/Brooke Davis (Gossip Girl/OTH)
Declan Coyne - Chuck Bass (To be honest, Declan and Fiona were blatantly Gossip Girl ripoffs)
Zoe Rivas - Santana Lopez/Alex Dupre (Glee/OTH)
Eli Goldsworthy - Jughead Jones (I hate it so much because I really like one and despise the other, but it's the truth)/Dawson Leery (Riverdale/Dawson's Creek)
Miles Hollingsworth - Logan Echolls/Nathan Scott (Veronica Mars/OTH)
Craig Manning - Dylan McKay (Beverly Hills 90210)
Liberty Van Zandt - Jal Fazer (Skins)
Grace Cardinal - Mac (Veronica Mars)
Esme Song - Rachel Gatina/Valerie Malone (OTH/Beverly Hills 90210)
Bianca DeSousa - Jen Lindley/Theresa Diaz (Dawson's Creek/The OC)
Alex Nunez - Alex Kelly (The OC)
JT Yorke - Chris Miles/David Silver (Skins/Beverly Hills 90210)
Becky Baker - Donna Martin/Andie McPhee (Beverly Hills 90210/Dawson's Creek)
#Anonymous#I could probably keep going but eventually all of them evolved into mixes of multiple characters
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It was hard for me to get invested in any parings on OTH.
Objectively I thought Luke’s dynamic with Brooke was better than his dynamic with Peyton but I didn’t care about Luke so I couldn’t get invested in any of his romantic relationships. Peyton/Jake had good chemistry and Peyton was less insufferable when she was with him but I didn’t like Peyton and jeyton didn’t have enough scenes for me to get invested. When it came to Brooke and Julian, I was like, “he treats her better than Lucas so I guess I’ll go with it” but l didn’t ship them.
It took me 2 seasons to warm up to Nathan and Hayley. Like you said, “together-Naley over build-up Naley because build up Naley is a joke.” I remember watching S1 Nayley and thinking “Pandie are better.” Pacey helping Andie’s mom is cuter/more heartwarming than Nathan giving Hayley a bracelet and following it up with “don’t say I never gave you anything.”
Yeah, that's fair, I mean, like, I have my own thing about how Luke treated Brooke and what I saw of Brulian just because of the backtracking and the fact that OTH is SO dialogue heavy so I'm always like before the bakctracking of Brucas, was Luke actually a bad boyfriend to Brooke or does Julian just have more dialogue and Brulian have happy info dumping as opposed to Leyton's angsty info dumping. But I get it.
With regards to Naley, yeah, like I keep saying I watched season 2 before I watched season 1 and I watched season 2 backwards so I started with Naley already married and their marital issues, when I watched season 1 I remember being like, oh, but I never really watched season 1 even when I was super into OTH so seeing them again just had me like Nathan was comically awful and the Naley build-up is pretty flimsy.
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@l1teraes sent ( haley james - scott ) : " he doesn't need to know. " / accepting.
" of course he needs to know, haley. " joey was never one to lie, no matter how badly the truth hurts. she's learned that lesson the hard way one too many times. pacey & dawson immediately rushing to the surface of her brain. the brunette exhales, lips curling to the side like they often do while she's speaking or about to speak. " trust me, lying or with holding the truth is never a good idea. it will only make things much worse for both you & nathan. " green eyes gaze over to the singer. " i can be there for support, if you want. "
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Tag people you want to get to know better
Tagged by: @sarcasticfina
Three Ships:
Nathan x Haley (OTH)
Mike x Eleven (Stranger Things)
Lucas x Maya (Girl Meets World)
First Ship
Trying to think of some of the things I watched in High School, and I'd have to say either Cory x Topanga or Pacey x Joey
Last Song:
C'est Comme Ca by Paramore
Last Movie
Forrest Gump
Currently Reading
The Sun Down Motel by Simone St. James
Currently Watching
Just finished You on Netflix and currently watching Mayor of Kingstown weekly
Currently Consuming:
A coke from McDonalds
Currently Craving:
Really good nachos or some Reeses Eggs
Tagging some folks from my notes (but no pressure of course):
i'm tagging the first 10 people i see on my dash, but do not feel obligated to fill it out!!
@dylan-rhodesobrien, @chrrispine, @steveharrington, @tedllasso, @carmens-garden, @carolinesthatsme, @missunderstoodxoxo, @richitozier, @cadetcama, & @samwilsonns
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I was thinking about my ships recently and I wanted to see how successful they were. Since I am already 41, I shipped a lot since the 80s. But I’ll rather start with the 90s. And the below is not even close to ALL the couples I have shipped.
90s
Donna & David - 90210 '90-2000 (endgame)
Niles & daphne - Frasier '93–2004 (endgame)
Monica & chandler - friends '94-2004 (endgame)
Pacey & Joey - Dawson’s creek '98-2003 (endgame)
Angela & Jordan - My So-Called Life '94 (it got canceled after one season but I am sure they would’ve been endgame)
Darlene & David - Roseanne '88-97 (no idea how their status is now in the Conners….)
Mulder & Scully - The X Files '93-2002 (I lost track, they were on and off so many times but still kinda endgame)
Harm & Saraj - JAG '95-2005 (endgame)
Buffy & Angel - Buffy '97-2003 (no endgame)
Michael & Maria - Roswell '99-2002 (endgame)
2000s
Michael & Sydney - Alias 2001-2005 (endgame)
Rory & Logan - Gilmore Girls 2000-2007/2016 (no endgame)
Tylor & Ryan - the OC 2003-2007 (no endgame )
Kate & Jack - Lost 2004-2010(he dies but endgame in fucking heaven)
Logan & Veronica - Veronica Mars 2004-2007+2019 (he fucking dies)
Barney & Robin - How I Met Your Mother 2005–2014 (no endgame)
Jake & Amy - Brooklyn Nine-Nine 2013–2021 (endgame)
Lucy & Wyatt - Timeless 2016–2018 (endgame)
Castle & Kate - Castle 2009–2016 (endgame but they kinda die???)
Klaus & Caroline - The Vampire Diaries/The Originals 2009–2017/2018 (no endgame cause he fucking dies)
Nick & Jess - new girl 2011–2018 (endgame)
Jake & Olivia - Scandal 2012–2018 (no endgame)
Haley & Nathan - One Tree Hill 2003–2012 (endgame)
Tate & Violet - AhS 2011- (endgame I guess lol)
Chuck & Blair - Gossip Girl 2007–2012 (endgame)
Ryan & Jane - the bold type 2017–2021 (no endgame)
Matt & Gabriella - chicago fire 2012- (no endgame)
Julie & Matt - friday night lights 2006–2011 (endgame)
cece & schmidt - new girl 2011–2018 (endgame)
Jesus… what has happened in recent years????
Jonerys - GOT 2011–2019 (she fucking dies)
Reylo - Star Wars 2015-2019 (he fucking dies)
Veronica & Logan - V. Mars 2019 (I know, already above but he fucking dies)
Avitas & Helene - An ember in the ashes vol4 2020 (he fucking dies)
Ted & Tracy - himym 2014 (she fucking dies)
Carlos & Lidia - las chics del cable 2017-2020 (he fucking dies)
Ships that will most likely end badly for me, see category above
The darkling & Alina - Shadow and bone (never read the books, I guess he will most likely die)
Jamie and Callie - Good trouble (they better become endgame.. but I don’t trust anyone these days)
Chenford - the rookie (they better make them endgame before the show gets canceled)
So quite successful I would say. especially before or right after millennium there were a lot of endgames for me but then you see more and more non endgames. Especially after 2018? Wtf happened? Why is everyone dying???? I made another post about none existing happy endings these days.. this kinda proves it.
#reylo#ships.#tv couples#jonerys#logan and veronica#robin and barney#ted and tracy#the darkling x alina#jallie#alias#jag tv Show#klaroline#buffy and angel#scandal#new girl#jake and amy#chenford#roswell 1999#rory and logan#pacey and joey#frasier#monica and chandler#mulder and scully#the oc#timeless#castle#nathan and haley#tate and violet#carlos x lidia
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hi there! 22 f here looking for 18+ partners for a dawson’s creek/ the oc / one tree hill / teen wolf rp. i’m looking to play joey potter against pacey witter, summer roberts against seth cohen, marissa cooper against ryan atwood, haley james against nathan scott, and lydia martin against stiles stilinski. open to any plot ideas and au’s and if you’re interested feel free to like this or message me on discord @ good 4 u#1032
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#eighteen and over#dawsons creek#dawsons creek roleplay#dawsons creek rp#the oc#the oc roleplay#the oc rp#one tree hill#one tree hill roleplay#one tree hill rp#teen wolf#teen wolf roleplay#teen wolf rp
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Ranking every Teen Drama I have ever watched
(Updated)
The Secret Life of the American Teenager
+ young Shailene Woodley and Molly Ringwald I guess
- everything else. Even Shailene Woodley's and Molly Ringwald's performances weren't that great because the writing is just oh so bad. The background music is bland and repetative and it sounds like out of some teenager's YouTube chanel. The plotlines are ridiculous and convoluted, which isn't neccessarily such a bad thing, because it is a teen drama show after all, the problem is the show seems to take itself too seriously. Other entries on this list also have ridiculously convoluted plotlines, but I'm ranking them highed because they don't take themselves too seriously and don't claim to be realistic like this show does. Seriously, from the title it suggests like this was going to be a real, uncensored look into high school but it's the furthest thing from it. Not to mention how problematic it is- God forbid someone suggests that a 14-year-old pregnant girl gets an abortion or gives the baby up for adoption without being seen as a terrible and despicable person.
Otp: Marc Molina x a job somewhere far, far away from these kids
Notps: every single pairing on this show
Best moment: literally none
Weirdest moment: "I'm such a whore!" "Well, you're my whore." What were the writers thinking??? Was this supposed to be romantic??
We Children From Zoo Station
+the aesthetic, the casting of Christiane, Detlef and Axel
-this was such a letdown. Honestly I was so hyped for it after seeing the trailer since I've read the book and didn't particularly like the movie- I feel like it's hard to fit all of Christiane's story into 90 minutes. That's why I was so excited about this show. Christiane's story covers so much, so it's easier to make it into a TV show when you don't want to ommit anything and butcher the story. But they somehow managed to do it anyway. They changed so much for no reason and completely erased Christiane's childhood trauma, which was important in the book. Now, I know you can say that it's just a loose adaptation, so it doesn't have to follow the book word for word. But I feel like if you already decided to tell her- a real person's story- you should at least do it authentically. Imo they shouldn't have tried to make the setting vague. It worked with Sex Education because the story of Sex Education is timeless. However, Christiane's story is not timeless. It's a true story set in the 1970s. If they were making a new show from scratch, I would have liked it. But this is an already existing story and they’re supposed to be just retelling it. My last issue is a nit pick but I wish the actresses playing Stella and Babsi were reversed. It just would've fit better.
Otps: all those kids x sobriety
Notp: Christiane x Detlef
Best moment: Christiane's first time in Sound was pretty true to the book
Weirdest moment: when Detlef became a gigolo because he needed money for his dog. Who tf thought of that?
Pretty Little Liars
+ makeup, style, the theme song, the drama and mystery that always kept me guessing, the cliffhangers at the end of each episode that made it so addictive, Emily's coming out story, Hanna and Spencer had some good lines
- the mishandling of some serious issues (namely eating disorders), romantization of student-teacher relationship, the timeline not making much sense, these writers seem to put more thought into the characters' outfits than the storylines
Otps: Emily x Maya, Hanna x Caleb
Notp: Ezria
Best moment: Hanna and Caleb in the shower (the sexual tension was cuttable with a knife)
Weirdest moments: Aria asking Ezra out in the middle of a make-up test (it was supposed to be cute but it was just cringy), Spencer trying to block A's text messages on a laptop, in the middle of a park (what? Spencer, you were supposed to be the smart one!)
One Tree Hill
+ Brooke, the theme song, Chad Michael Murray
- the casual drinking and driving (I mean seriously these kids play a drinking game at a party and then casually hop into a car and drive home??), too much basketball and cheerleading (that's not a bad thing per se but I just don't really care about neither of these things), it just seems too stereotypical and kinda bland?? I couldn't really get into it
Otp: Naley
Notp: Peyton x Nathan
Best moment: Naley by the dock
Weirdest moment: "I guess I'm just a riddle, wrapped in a mystery inside a bitch." It's not really a bad moment but a cringy line. I guess the writers though they were being clever but it just sounded bad.
Dawson's Creek
+ the clothes, the 90s aesthetic, the 90s soundtrack, many movie references, Pacey is a sweetheart, Jen is a feminist icon, dealing with mental health issues through Andie (it's rare to see in shows as old as this)
- the slutshaming of Jen really hasn't aged well, the storyline of Pacey being statury raped by his much older teacher was mishandled (it was either treated as scandalous, cool or in Andie’s case somehow shameful), same goes for Jen’s backstory- it was mentioned she was raped at 12 by an older man and then never brought up again, Dawson is the most unlikable protagonist ever and his friendship/relationship with Joey is codependent and possessive, the dialogue is sometimes pretentious and unrealistic, the timeline doesn't really add up- I can never tell what time of the year it's supposed to be, because it looks like it's always fall for some reason. And how did they sophomore year have two homecomings?
Otps: Pacey x Andie, Pacey x Joey (yes, both at the same time)
Notp: Dawson x Joey
Best moments: Jen helping Joey when that jerk was spreading rumours about her and then Jen and Joey locking Abby in the closet together (I love it when they stick together instead of tearing each other down), Pacey and Joey bickering
Weirdest moments: when Joey was upset because Dawson didn’t want to tell her how often he “walks his dog”, when Jen was about to have a treesome at a party and Dawson walked into the room and carried her out despite her kicking and screaming
Glee
+ funny, Sue Sylvester's iconic, great covers and a way to find new songs, the performances are aesthetically pleasing, lgbtq+ representation, tackling of serious issues, coming out story, a father who’s accepting of his son’s sexuality right away despite not really understanding it (it’s so rare to see, that’s why it’s so refreshing), the plotlines are ridiculous but at least the show doesn't take itself too seriously
-as I already said the 1st season was great but after that it just seemed like the writers made up a checklist of hard issues they should tackle and tried to tackle every single one of them while covering every single song and it just fell flat. Prime example- Quinn ending up in a wheelchair getting into a car crash to warn us from drinking and driving, singing I’m Still Standing and then suddenly being able to walk normally after. a few episodes Rachel and Finn got almost all songs, while other characters were criminally underrated and underused (Tina, Quinn, Mercedes). The teachers are questionable to put it mildly. Cringy moments- Finn singing You're Having My Baby to Quinn in front of her parents when it wasn't even his baby! Also no one except of Kurt looks like they could be in high school. And why are these cheerleaders wearing their uniforms 24/7??
Otps: Brittana, Sam x Quinn, Tina x Artie (unpopular opinion, I know), Mr Schue x unemployment
Notp: Quinn x Finn
Best moments: Quinn giving birth to Bohemian Rhapsody
Weirdest moment: Rachel's gross and painfully awkward crush on Mr Schue, Mr Schue joining the Glee club on the stage for a performance of Toxic and girls in the audience cat calling him (Ewww)
Euphoria
+ Zendaya's and Jacob Elordi's performances, tackling of serious issues such as drug addiction and overdose, anxiety and depression, abusive relationships and abortion in a better manner than most (if not all) teen dramas, the aesthetics, makeup and wardrobe, the musical number in the finale, the special episodes giving us insight into the characters' psychology, toxic relationships not being romanticized (which is sadly rare), teenagers sounding like actual real life teens (no "I reject reality" crap)
- lack of comic relief (why so serious all the time), sexualization of teen characters (I know this is something many teen dramas are guilty of but it's the most evident here), too much nudity (I know some of you are going to come at me with: "But it's realistic!" So what? It is realitic that teenagers get naked when they go into shower but does it mean we have to see it?? It seems to me like this show is trying too hard to be "boundary pushing" at times and ends up being scandalous just for the sake of being scandalous), these characters just aren't believable as high school juniors to me (they sound like high schoolers but they certainly don’t act, look or dress that way). There's no reason this show couldn't have been set in college.
Otps: Rue x sobriety, Nate x prison
Notps: Nate x Maddy, Cassie x McKay
Best moments: "You did this to me!" and the musical number in the season 1 finale
Weirdest moment: the fact that Maddy lost her virginity at 14 to a 40-year-old man being mentioned so casually because apparently she was "totally in control". Excuse me what??
Skins
+ style and makeup- each character has a signature trademark (Sid and his beanie, Effy's eyeliner, Cassie's soft eyeshadow), their British accents, I'm pretty sure this is the only teen drama that follows multiple classes, teenage characters being played by actual teen actors, the characters looking like average people you meet in high school and not as if they just walked off the runway, dealing with serious issues such as drug abuse, eating disorder, parental abandonment etc (yes, some people claim the show romanticized it, but I disagree. It's not the show that romanticized it- it's the fans. The show tried to portray the dangers of drugs as well as possible. Think about it- every time characters used drugs it ended in a disaster. In the pilot they thought that Cassie overdosed and ended up crashing a car while rushing into the hospital. In later season Effy hit her friend in the head with a rock because she was having a bad trip. That's not romanticizing drugs.), Effy is iconic and honestly the first episode was enough to get me hooked
- every single teacher being a creep and having a thing for a student at some point, the show can get too dark and unncessarily dramatic at times. Did that many people have to die? Did Chris's death really have to be this graphic? Timeline doesn't really add up- are 8 episodes supposed to cover the whole year? It would've made more sense if there were more episodes in a season.
Otps: Chris x Jal, Emily x Naomi
Notps: Sid x Michelle
Best moment: ooh baby it's a wild world
Weirdest moment: Chris's graphic death
The OC
+ more grounded in reality than many others on this list, the theme song, the love stories, Seth and Summer are funny, the friendships are believable and the whole group has great chemistry
- too many unneccessary fights, Luke is the worst, everyone is way too casual about drunk driving, these parents are WAAAY too chill (I know this can be said about many teen dramas but it's the most obvious here. How did the Roberts and the Coopers let two 16-year-old girls go to Mexico alone?? With no supervision?? What?)
Otps: Seth x Summer, Ryan x Marissa
Notp: Luke x Marissa
Best moments: the “oh no, there’s only one bed” in the Mexico episode, Seth and Summer's first kiss and that kiss at the yacht, Ryan and Marissa's first date by the pool
Weirdest moment: these parents letting their teenage kids go to Mexico alone. It's irresponsible when they're 16 but apparently they let them go there and party every year. What?
Gossip Girl
+ every episode having a clever title, the style, the makeup, the 00s soundtrack, the glamour of it all (it feels like reading a very gossipy magazine!), all the scandals, this show never pretends to portray the realitic teenage experience so it can pretty much be as far-fetched as it wants to and you can’t question it, it gives you a chance to live the fantasy of being super rich, living with a penthouse, riding a limo to school and going to parties in New York City every night
- the final reveal doesn't make any sense, just like with PLL these writers seemed to have put more thought into the outfits and makeup than into the plotlines, romantization of a toxic relationship, having every two straight characters date or hook up at some point, which just felt forced, mishandling of serious issues (Blair's eating disorder, Eric's suicide attempt and Serena and Jenny's sexual assault from the pilot being brought up when it's convenient but not really dealt with and brushed off at other times), sexualization of teen characters
Otps: Dan x Blair, Serena x Nate
Notps: Chuck x Blair
Best moments: the Thanksgiving flashbacks, Blair and Serena running around New York and taking selfies in stolen dresses, Nate and Serena’s first time (although it was better in the books) and then their kiss at the white party, the sheer scandal of "I killed someone", Dan giving Blair a plastic tiara to make her feel like a princess
Weirdest moments: Chuck's father returning from the death and then dying again, by yeeting himself off the roof
Freaks and Geeks
+ probably the most realistic teen drama there is, the characters dress the way I can see actual teens dressing, funny, but also heatbreaking at times, probably the only teen show that included an intersex character, the characters being a little stereotypical but self-aware at least, young James Franco and Jason Segel
- the bullying being a bit too much at times and it's a bit unrealistic that the teachers would do literally nothing about it, too short- I will never understand why this got cancelled
Otps: Daniel x Kim, Lindsay x Nick, Amy x Ken
Notps: Sam x Cindy
Best moments: Sam breaking down at the end of Garage Door, Daniel and Kim getting back together in the rain
Weirdest moment: Cindy doing a 180 and becoming super mean when she started dating Sam.
Gilmore Girls
+ so many movie, literary and music references, the quotable lines (what a great way to learn about new movies, books and bands! It’s so unique for a TV show to make you smarter), the witty banter, the comfort of the first few seasons (it really feels like wrapping a warm blanket around yourself while holding a hot cup of coffee, I can’t explain why, but it’s such a comfort show), the quirky small town with many unique festivals, many entertaining and snappy fights where everyone has a point, characters dealing with real world problems (seriously, how often do you see a storyline about termites? Or a teenager with zit cream on a teen drama show?), this is also one of the few shows where teenagers are shown to have rules and restrictions and curfews (finally some kids growing up with strict parents representation) and doing homework and studying and not just partying and drinking and having sex all the time and that’s so refreshing
- but while it is refreshing to see teenagers waiting to have sex and not doing it behind every corner, the show is kind of sex negative. Every single time a (female) character loses her virginity it ends in a disaster. Even when she loses it after she’s married! It doesn’t make any sense, unless the writers just really hated women. Also slutshaming (”I got the good kid!”) ewww. The money and budget doesn’t make much sense on the show either and the girls seem immune to calories. I know some people might come at me for this with: “But it’s just a show!” but I think it’s harmful to show beautiful, thin women eat nothing but tons of junkfood all the time and never excersize and then fatshame people who do excersize but aren’t fortunate enough to be blessed with amazing Gilmore genes, and then throw around tactless references to eating disorders.
Otps: Lane x Dave, Jess x Rory
Notps: Lane x Zach, Rory x Dean, Lorelai x Christopher
Best moments: Then She Appeared, Rory’s valedictorian speech, Lorelai’s graduation
Weirdest moment: Lorelai and Christopher getting married in Paris at 4am. That’s not how it works in Europe. Do Americans think every single Europian country works like Las Vegas, where you can just get married whenever you decide??
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“Pacey was the one who said Joey was waiting to sleep with Dawson first which honestly is all kinds of gross and I always hate that conversation as again he used Dawson’s name to back Joey into a corner especially around sex, a topic Joey has always struggled with.”
When I first watched episode I was upset a Pacey for saying that. But then we saw Joey have that phone call with Dawson which proved that Pacey’s fears were not unfounded. I also didn’t see it as him backing her into a coroner per say, I think it was his attempt at communication. Like if we are going to talk about him backing her into a corner, he does so in 4x05 and even in 4x15.
I think Pacey brings up Dawson because he knows Dawson is the third person in their relationship. In 4x10 he is hesistant to bring up Dawson and Gretchen’s kiss to Joey but Gretchen tells him to. After he brings it up to Joey, she gets mad and tries to deny it. But in the end of the episode Pacey tells her to talk to Dawson about it and Dawson gives her that picture frame. When they actually hear eachother out instead of getting upset with one another, they are able to have a healthy relationship. Also, after Joey had sex with Pacey she told Gretchen that she doesn’t want the ‘whole world’ to know about it. Gretchen responded that Joey really means Dawson and Joey responded that ‘it’s the same thing.’ Joey inserts Dawson into her relationship as well. Even Gretchen noted that Joey’s response was bleak.
Ultimately, I really hate that the writers made it seem like Joey didn’t want to have sex with Pacey because of Dawson. Like you said, sex was a topic Joey always struggled with. Her fear of sex was present throughout the whole show, even in S6. However, the show didn’t expand on this and made it seem like she couldn’t have sex because she was hung up on Dawson. I also don’t get why she had the conversation with Dawson when the one with Jack could have been a perfectly good turning point. I think part of the reason Joey was scared to have sex because she didn’t want to be stuck in capeside and become a mother due to an unplanned pregnancy (she literally told Bessie this) but this wasnt emphasized in that episode. Joey‘s face when she wakes up next to Pacey is often interpreted as regret or guilt that she slept with Pacey instead of Dawson but honestly she was just self-conscious, as most people are the first time they have sex. Like even if she would have lost her virginity (hate that phrase) to Dawson instead of Pacey, she would have been self-conscious. I don’t think she regretted sleeping with Pacey (except maybe when she had that pregnancy scare), I think she felt guilty about hurting Dawson in the process. The show really does teenagers a disservice by not treating this topic with the credence it deserved.
I 100% agree with you about how the show went about it. Sex in teen shows is always so hit and miss. Like I think about In One Tree Hill when Haley has sex with Nathan after they get married which honestly is so wild and I loathe that storyline a lot. Love them as a couple but hate that a lot. I think they put a lot of gravitas on Joey's relationship with sex and yeah I too hate the phrasing 'losing virginity'.
You're right Joey also inserted Dawson into their relationship which I wasn't a fan of and Gretchen was right to call Joey out for that. The thing with Bessie is interesting because I don't think Joey is ashamed of Bessie or Bessie's situation but I think it goes back to Joey and her complicated feelings about her mum and her parents. She has been saying since S1 that she doesn't want to be stuck in Capeside and yeah the pregnancy scare really unsettled her and I'm still upset she never told Pacey, but on the other hand Pacey was going through a lot and Gretchen even told her not to tell him so I feel like if I was in her situation I wouldn't have told him either. But then again this is a tv show so who knows.
I really love the conversation she has with Jack and their little moments like in 3x22 and Season 5. I agree the Dawson phone call wasn't needed but I feel like the writers were wanting Dawson and Joey back together so it had to be put in even if I don't think it carried any real weight. I think when Joey heard what Pacey said at the hot tub she realised that she wanted to take that next step with him. So I don't really view it as her doing it cause Dawson gave her permission.
This is all over the place but yeah here are my thoughts :p
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I have a confession to make. Nathan and Haley have dethroned Pacey and Joey as my favorite TV couple ever. Pacey and Joey are second favorite and I will adore them forever. I think the main reason I put Naley first is because I like the way their plotlines played out better. And that's not Jacey's fault. Josh and Katie put their entire hearts and souls into Jacey... it's just the shitty writers' faults for shafting Jacey for way too much time. The Dawson's Creek writers wasted so much time on Dawson and Joey and mistreated Jacey during all of S5 and most of S6. The One Tree Hill writers realized the gold they had with Naley and they capitalized on it.
It's interesting cause One Tree Hill had a similar dynamic to Dawson and Joey in Lucas and Haley. Both were friends since childhood, Dawson's parents were like parents to Joey and in much the same way Lucas' mom was like a second mom to Haley. Lucas and Haley didn't usually sleep in the same bed but they did occasionally. But the main difference is that unlike the DC writers, the OTH writers smartly knew never to cross the romantic line with Lucas and Haley. There is never so much as a hint that their relationship may be more than friends. The word soulmate is never used for Lucas and Haley. And lastly Nathan and Haley's relationship is never shafted for Lucas and Haley. In fact, Lucas and Haley grow slightly farther apart. They remain friends but Haley has a husband and eventually a son and daughter so it makes sense that they wouldn't spend all their time together.
Another similarity is that with both Dawson/Joey and Lucas/Haley... Both Dawson and Lucas were upset with Joey and Haley respectively for dating Pacey and Nathan respectively. But with OTH, Lucas was upset because Nathan was his enemy and he was upset that his best friend was dating his enemy. Also Lucas was being a bit protective so it wasn't entirely about his ego. The Dawson's Creek writers shoehorned in a shitty romantic triangle. Dawson was being a territorial abusive psycho when it came to Joey. I think the way that OTH did that dynamic was just as interesting to watch but far less infuriating. Also Lucas came around and became extremely close to Nathan. He also supported Haley's decision almost from the beginning (even though it upset him) because he wanted her to be happy. Dawson was a complete selfish son of a bitch who refused to ever completely forgive his own friend Pacey.
So to recap both Naley and Jacey have insane chemistry that never diminished during the entirety of the show, S3 of Jacey is some of the best TV couple writing i've ever seen, both were endgame and had incredible actors who supported or fought for their character's endgame. But Naley pulls a little forward because the writers clearly adored them and never truly did them dirty. The writing and plots were more consistently great for Naley and they were a really healthy couple. Not that they never had issues but they communicated really well and dealt with their issues with therapy. But I will always defend Jacey because they deserved better writers who were in their corner. I will always say that Jacey was a very healthy couple as well but near the end of S4 they needed to communicate a bit better and they both respectively needed therapy but the writers were never gonna give those characters good therapy unfortunately. Everyone should watch Dawson's Creek if for no other reason than for Jacey.
Edit. Also if you haven't seen One Tree Hill, please record your reactions and put them on Patreon. I want to pay you to live vicariously through you! lol
#one tree hill#dawson's creek#nathan and haley#naley#pacey and joey#jacey#otp#nathan scott#haley james#haley james scott#haley scott#pacey witter#joey potter#lucas scott#dawson leery#james lafferty#bethany joy lenz#joshua jackson#katie holmes
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gifs and ships
i was tagged to describe my ships in gifs by @stewartsjaymes! super fun!
1. First Ship - Rory and Jess/Literati - Gilmore Girls (shipping them since before i knew what shipping was, when S2 was currently airing and i was watching it on the WB on Tuesday nights with my mom and sister!)
2. First OTP - Ron and Hermione/Romione - Harry Potter (apparently an unpopular opinion? when did that happen? anyway these two are the first ship i ever read and wrote fanfic for, so yeah, i’d say they’re my first OTP)
3. Current fav ship - Betty and Jughead/Bughead - Riverdale (i mean...i have written more fic about these two than any other ship ever. this blog is dedicated to their epic love. my favorite investigative duo that ever was!)
4. Your Ship Since the First Minute - Shelby and Toni/Shoni - The Wilds (the “I KNEW ITTTT” heard around the world) and Coop and Patience/Coopatience - All American (i have truly loved them since they first spoke!)
5. You Wish They Had Been Endgame - okay these are TWO tragic ships of my teenage years that are iconic and should’ve been endgame - Rich and Grace/Hardlet - Skins Gen 3 and Simon and Alisha - Misfits
6. You Wish They Had Been Canon - does Ace and Nancy count, seeing as they are not canon yet in Nancy Drew? I tend to ship canon ships more than non-canon ships, don’t hate me! it just happens that way!
7. Most of the Fandom Hates, But You Love - Dan/Blair (Dair) - Gossip Girl bc Cha*r is toxic af and when i rewatched GG i fell in loveeee with the Dair dynamic! they’re so good for each other!
8. You Don’t Watch The Show But You Ship Them Anyway - lol i couldn’t think of one that was pure for this answer, BUT i started watching Atypical specifically bc of seeing Cazzie gifs on Tumblr so does not count?
9. You Wish They Had a Different Storyline - i almost put these babes down for wanted to be endgame, but honestly - JT and Liberty/Jiberty - Degrassi TNG bc fuck the pregnancy storyline and especially fuck JT getting stabbed right before they were about to reconcile! NEW STORYLINE PLZ.
10. Fave Ship That is Endgame - okay this is wayyy too hard so here are a few endgame ships that have my whole heart: Seth and Summer - The O.C.; Gert and Chase/Gertchase, Marvel’s Runaways; Pacey and Joey/Pjo - Dawson’s Creek; and Nathan and Haley/Naley - One Tree Hill
tagging @bugheadsextape @thetaoofbetty @feisty-aquarius4 @andsmile @go-ldy anyone who wants to do it! this one was fun
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We have literal identical taste (except that I'm not a Pacey/Joey girl lol) and wanted to ask how you'd rank these OTH characters from your favorite to least favorite with no ties?! Good luck :) Haley, Peyton, Brooke, Nathan, Lucas, Clay, Quinn, Julian. Mouth (ugh that name), Skills, Millie.
Aw, that's too bad! But I guess Pacey/Joey isn't for everyone. I feel like it influenced so many of my shipping preferences, though.
1.) Haley
2.) Nathan
3.) Brooke
4.) Peyton
5.) Lucas
6.) Skills
7.) Clay
8.) Julian
9.) Quinn
10.) Millie
11.) Mouth (Fuck the self insert incel)
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BIOGRAPHY || WANTED CONNECTIONS
BASICS.
Name:
aidan
meaning born of fire. after his paternal grandfather; it is a family name that has spanned several generations since the wrights moved to america from ireland in the late 1800s.
charles
meaning man. after his maternal grand-uncle.
wright
the family is originally from ireland; though they have assimilated into american culture, they still remember where they came from.
Gender & Pronouns: male and he/him
Age & DOB: thirty-six; january 20, 1985
Zodiac sign: aquarius
Orientation: heterosexual & heteroromantic
Nationality: american ( malaysia does not recognize dual citizenship )
Ethnicity: half-malay; half-white
Religion: islam ( nonpracticing )
Neighborhood: merrick village
HISTORY.
Hometown: los angeles, california ( though born in kuala lumpur )
Father: william henry wright
Mother: amina nor tan
Siblings, if any:
n/a
Pets:
n/a
Educational background:
wilshire private school; 1990-97
harvard-westlake school; 1998-2004
university of southern california; 2004-08
Languages spoken:
english (fluent)
malay (fluent)
Occupational history:
charter captain; 2014-present
PERSONALITY.
MBTI: esfj-A { the consul }
People who share the Consul personality type are, for lack of a better word, popular – which makes sense, given that it is also a very common personality type, making up twelve percent of the population. In high school, Consuls are the cheerleaders and the quarterbacks, setting the tone, taking the spotlight and leading their teams forward to victory and fame. Later in life, Consuls continue to enjoy supporting their friends and loved ones, organizing social gatherings and doing their best to make sure everyone is happy. At their hearts, Consul personalities are social creatures, and thrive on staying up to date with what their friends are doing.
Enneagram: Nine
We have called personality type Nine The Peacemaker because no type is more devoted to the quest for internal and external peace for themselves and others. They are typically “spiritual seekers” who have a great yearning for connection with the cosmos, as well as with other people.Nines are accepting, trusting, and stable. They are usually creative, optimistic, and supportive, but can also be too willing to go along with others to keep the peace. They want everything to go smoothly and be without conflict, but they can also tend to be complacent, simplifying problems and minimizing anything upsetting. They typically have problems with inertia and stubbornness. At their Best: indomitable and all-embracing, they are able to bring people together and heal conflicts.
Temperament: phlegmatic
The phlegmatic temperament is fundamentally relaxed and quiet, ranging from warmly attentive to lazily sluggish. Phlegmatics tend to be content with themselves and are kind. They are accepting and affectionate. They may be receptive and shy and often prefer stability to uncertainty and change. They are consistent, relaxed, calm, rational, curious, and observant, qualities that make them good administrators. They can also be passive-aggressive.
Hogwarts House: gryffindor
Inspirations/Parallels: ryan atwood, nate archibald, nathan scott, pacey witter
Tropes: rich kid
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member groups.
in an attempt to merge the gap between real life and urban fantasy, we’re doing something a little different with the member groups than some fans of this muddled genre might be used to. each one will attempt to represent a good balance and mixture of different things that your character can relate to. we don't want anyone to feel too boxed in, so try not to overthink where your character belongs. whatever feels right for you and your character is the right answer!
honey.
gluttony, kindness.
fictional parallels: jughead jones, alana bloom, pacey witter, xander harris, charles boyle, alex manes, chloe decker, julie james, mouth mcfadden, waverly earp, dean winchester, luke crain, raven reyes, dewey riley.
traits might include: nurturing, warmth, self-deprecation, curiosity, indulgence, courage, self-sacrificing, glib, loyalty, resourceful, headstrong.
moss.
envy, humility.
fictional parallels: toni topaz, andie mcphee, will graham, buffy summers, nicole haught, terry jeffers, maria deluca, peyton sawyer, dan espinoza, sam winchester, shirley crain, clarke griffin, randy meeks, elsa shivers.
traits might include: woeful, selfish, excitement-seeking, artistic, nearsighted, honest, impulsive, stubborn, practical, inconsistent, moody.
saltwater.
pride, temperance.
fictional parallels: veronica lodge, audrey liddell, xavier dolls, kyle valenti, brooke davis, amenadiel, raymond holt, rupert giles, jack crawford, castiel, olivia crain, bellamy blake, sidney prescott, helen shivers.
might include: self-aware, brazen, extroverted, inspirational, arrogant, determined, charismatic, secretive, independent, ostentatious, self-righteous.
satin.
greed, patience.
fictional parallels: cheryl blossom, dawson leary, doc holliday, max evans, chris keller, mazikeen, gina linetti, spike, steven crain, freddie lounds, bela talbot, john murphy, billy loomis, barry cox.
traits might include: materialistic, clever, intense, opinionated, collected, unpredictable, manipulative, dominant, addictive, magnetic, efficient.
thunderstorms.
wrath, diligence.
fictional parallels: betty cooper, joey potter, bobo del rey, michael guerin, nathan scott, linda martin, amy santiago, faith lehane, hannibal lecter, john winchester, theodora crain, octavia blake, stu macher, bill willis.
traits might include: choleric, focused, vengeful, challenging, pensive, rebellious, active, steadfast, ingenious, aloof, combative.
wisteria.
lust, charity.
fictional parallels: kevin keller jen lindley wynonna earp isobel evans lucas scott lucifer morningstar roza diaz cordelia chase gabriel hugh crain jasper jordan ghostface ray bronson.
traits might include: charming, generous, passionate, naive, imaginative, physical, humanitarian, philosophical, indecisive, playful, trusting.
woodsmoke.
sloth, chastity.
fictional parallels: archie andrews jack mcphee jeremy chetri liz ortecho haley james scott ella lopez jake perolta andrew wells abigail hobbs jack kline nell crain monty green gale weathers max neurick.
traits might include: intelligent, aimless, grounded, sensual, detached, ethical, indolent, witty, observant, melancholic, theoretical.
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talk to the hand [ GAVIN LEATHERWOOD ], [ NATHANIEL CREED ] is the new kid on the block around here. at [ 21 ], the [ CIS BOY ] works at [ BLOCKBUSTER ] in the mall and, like, [ HE ] totally reminds us of [ PACEY WITTER ]. oh snap! what? their favorite movie is [ BASIC INSTINCT ]???? so is mine!
now for my hot mess nate creed he’s a mess but he’s baby okay here’s his pinterest too
AGAIN THIS IS RAMBLES
so nate’s kinda...sad. not emotionally but you look at him and you’re like aw nate’s cool but he’s kinda sad and pathetic.
he’s the youngest in his family and has always been the black sheep in a family of very successful overachievers (with substance abuse issues) whereas he was always the “dumb” one of the family with bad grades and never cared about anything really.
he always tries to act like the way his family treat him never affected him, always trying to play the cool “i don’t care about anyone's opinion” type of guy but that shit really hurt him and just made him want to try less. like he’s someone who has potential and if he was in a positive environment to try harder he could’ve been a good student but all they would do is berate him so he gave up.
everyone kinda knows this about him that he’s really good for nothing and that the biggest thing for him is he can become the manager of blockbuster cuz that’s the only way his life could go?? like he thinks so low of himself that he can’t even try for anything else
he didn’t even really graduate high school cuz he failed literally all his classes like hes fully given up on himself
he really has a lot of self image issues and thinks he’s the absolute worst and he tries to cover it up by being the fun and funny guy who buys all the under 21 kids alcohol and brings the weed and is a huge stoner and just tries to make up for all his other flaws with that and cheap jokes
he deep down just really wants someone to actually see him and what he’s worth and like him enough for that because he can’t do that for himself and feels like no one else ever has really liked him outside of what he can do for them
he’s that cool but kinda annoying guy who works at blockbuster and is always wearing some hawaiian shirt or canadian suit and his hairs a mess and hes clearly a little stoned and giving you his weird movie suggestions and sometimes its really fun and you love it and other times you’re just like please stfu and let me get my movie
his favorite movie is basic instinct only cuz she briefly flashes her coochie like he’s a pig and thinks he’s soo funny
ALSO HE REALLY ONLY GOES BY NATE, NATHAN AND NATHANIEL ARE USUALLY RESERVED FOR WHEN HIS FAMILY ARE BEING DICKS TO HIM
deep down he’s just baby okay like he tries to come off as this i just want sex no strings but he’s the type to literally get attached after a one night stand?? like hes on the low a huge romantic cuz he’s so desperate for love?? he’s v emotional like i said he has so much potential in really everything but he just reduces himself to this caricature because it’s easier than actually trying and opening up
LIKE W ERIN IM DOWN FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY PLOTS SO LETS WILDIN OUT
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