Death of a salesman
This episode… I’ve listened to this the most out of all the episodes and it still gets me
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anthony burch after playing through scenes that portray actual child abuse in such a realistic and horrific way that i almost have to turn off the episode, none of the players are having fun anymore, and both he and beth are crying: but guys remember, willy's hot
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What do you think Tom thinks of the play/film Death of a Salesman? It came out around the time he was working at Borgin and Burkes.
You know, I'm not sure he'd quite "get it". The thing about Death of a Salesman is it's incredibly American. I don't know how much a non-American, particularly someone from Wizarding Britain which can be very different culturally, would get out of it.
It's also about someone in a very different stage of life than Tom is (especially at the time). It's not just about our main character but also/especially his relationships with his sons and how we can see one of the sons (the one we might not expect) becoming his father because of how his father he treated him.
I see Tom thinking it's a decent play but I mostly see him responding "lol" to it in that it's about this poor man who works all his life like a dog, tries to sound impressive to his sons who he hopes will surpass him, ends up backed into a corner and killing himself, and then no one cares when he's dead and his wife has to demand people give a shit.
It's just one of those things he wouldn't really connect to and certainly feels isn't related to the life he himself leads even when he's working at Borgin and Burke's.
"And this is why you shouldn't try to live an ordinary and decent life" is what Tom would walk away with.
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Arthur Miller's "Death of a Salesman", starring Lee J. Cobb, Arthur Kennedy, Mildred Dunnock , Cameron Mitchell, and directed by Elia Kazan, opened at Morosco Theatre in NYC on February 10, 1949.
Arthur Miller's "Death of a Salesman", starring Lee J. Cobb, Arthur Kennedy, Mildred Dunnock , Cameron Mitchell, and directed by Elia Kazan, opened at Morosco Theatre in NYC on February 10, 1949.
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okay s1ep61 ruined me. i've never sobbed at a podcast before. this was supposed to be a silly goofy podcast about d&d and daddies. beth and anthony executed that so perfectly. this podcast means the world to me.
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Today we are all “free” to aspire to any height, we have the hero’s necessary alternatives. My moral object, therefore, is to attempt to direct the efforts of men toward the clear appreciation of reality, exposing the illusory in order that man may realize his creative potentialities.
In another context, Shakespeare was attempting the same thing, as in the history plays where the catastrophe derives from the impossible ambitions of the monarch or those of the subjects against the monarch. A certain ideal order is therefore implied as having been violated in his work, and in mine. His ideal was feudal; it supposed that life would be good when men behaved in accordance with their social position and neither lapsed into a lower level, (Prince Hal), nor created havoc by attempting to crash into one above them, (The King in Hamlet ). My ideal order is less easy to formulate if only because it does not yet exist, while he was writing within a society whose theory was sufficient for him.
I see man’s happiness frustrated until the time arrives when he is judged, given social honor and respect, not by what he has accumulated but by what he has given to his society. This ideal is posited not for itself, but because I know that the frustration of the creative act is the cause of our hatred for each other, and hatred is the cause of our fears. We reward our dealers, our accumulators, our speculators; we penalize with anonymity and low pay our teachers, our scientists, our workers who make and do and build and create. And so the urge that is in all of us to give and to make is turned in upon itself, and we accept the upside-down idea that to take and to accumulate is the great good. And whether we succeed in that or not, we are sooner or later left with the awareness of our emptiness, our inner poverty, and our isolation from mankind. When a man reaches that knowledge and has the sensitivity to feel the loss of his true self deeply, he is a tragic figure; but not unless he tries to find himself despite the world can he raise up in us the actual feeling that something fine and great and precious has been discovered too late. The history of man is his blundering attempt to form a society in which it pays to be good. The tragic figure now, and always, is the man who insists, past even death, that the stultifying combinations of evil give way before the outpouring of humanity and love that is bursting from his heart. This is why tragedy endures, and this is why it has really never changed excepting in its superficial aspects of rank etc.
I hope some of this has been clear. I write at such length because there are not many who have taken the trouble to examine the matter at all.
Sincerely yours,
Arthur Miller
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it's INSANE that the episode goblin and the episode death of a salesman comes right after each other
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