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Instead of conversion camps, there were camps to make you more gay.
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ok ok I edited samael's backstory a bit? I made it so his parents sent him to a conversion camp, and ofc it didn't work so they gave him to his aunt, who accepted him for who he was...
#it was awful#and he rarely talks about it in detail#but yeah i guess he needed more trauma UIASDJSDA#no but this made sense to me#⛧ ooc. —— 𝖙𝖆𝖐𝖊 𝖒𝖊 𝖙𝖔 𝖈𝖍𝖚𝖗𝖈𝖍.#please heed the trigger warnings before reading his bio!!#they used electric therapy on him and now he has memory issues and headaches#conversion camp tw#why did i have to make him sadder LOL#i want to explore just how bad some religious people can be tbfh
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What the fuck lmao
I don't understand these people and... quite frankly I never want to.
#tw fandom discourse#convert?#what are you the catholic church 😭#idk i think liking Billy isnt the worst thing ive ever done tbh lol#the only time id go to therapy for something pertaining to billy... it would be bc i relate to him you intolerant fucks 😭#conversion camp??
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I finished reading Camp Damascus by Chuck Tingle yesterday. Yes, I definitely read it on the day it came out.
As a queer, autistic person who was raised in the Southern Baptist church during the 80s until the early 2000s, this book hits hard in a lot of ways.
I had a good friend pulled from school in 2003 and forbidden to speak to me when his parents found out he was gay and that I knew and hadn’t told. They sent him to Christian counseling.
I had a much loved teacher recommend Exodus International (ex gay conversion nonsense) for him without realizing I was also queer.
So yes, on the serious side, it hit me in the feels.
On the silly side, it was a delightfully fun read with just enough suspense to keep you going. Occasionally pretty gross, but what’s some body horror between friends.
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#rant tw#vent tw#idk i went away for a week to be a counselor at a camp#that had virtually no signal#and i come back to... idk what to even call this#drama? manipulation? pathological lies?#this was a person that i genuinely liked and trusted#their writing was some of the first to get me into whump#and i felt like we had really great conversations about everything from writing to real life#and for all of this to now be coming out#my brain is not really letting me believe all this at once#i'm confused and hurt and just deeply sad#while i was never in a place to financially help them#i did try to signal boost them frequently#and now i'm feeling immensely guilty because of that#because i could be the reason that some people donated#their money (hard earned money) to nothing more than a scam#my heart is just hurting now#:(
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Finally getting to read Camp Damascus again, and oh my God. "I'm gay, and there's a demon out there who really doesn't want me acknowledging it" (Tingle, 108). The pacing, the progression, the characterization, slow showing of details about the actual Camp Damascus oooughj. I love how it touches on repression and memory. I have memory issues, and the part of my life that I have the least amount of memory from is the time I was in conversation therapy. I was never kidnapped, but my parents kept dragging me there every week. I remembered her name about two years ago (the conversation therapist), and I finally googled her again. The whole thing was really sketchy, she kept moving buildings like every other month. She's moved towns now, and has "Christian counseling" listed as her area of expertise. It shocks me to know how many queer people have experienced conversion therapy. I personally know 5+ people who had it done in the same way mine was (parents told you that you were going to see a gender therapist, it was actually conversion therapy instead) and I know at least one person who was KIDNAPPED AND SENT TO A CAMP IN MONTANA. Camp Damascus speaks to the queer autistic experience unlike anything else I have ever read, and I'm so glad I went into the book almost blind.
#sorry for the rambling this book has me feeling some kind of way#my post#books#camp damascus#chuck tingle#buckaroo lifestyle#tw conversation therapy
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truscum and anti-mogai folk blaming xenogender and neoprounoun using people for "making the transgender community look like a joke" and even other forms of transphobia is so fucking insane.
is it xenogender people who are mocking and degrading trans people for their features?
is it people using thon/thonself pronouns who are claiming that transgenderism is a mental illness and sending people to conversion camps as a "cure"?
is it magicgender people who are harrassing and assualting people for using the "wrong" bathroom?
is it people who go by rose/roseself who are MURDERING thousands of trans people, including children just for existing as themselves?
the answer is NEGATIVE.
the reason trans people are opressed and seen as jokes are because of transphobes.
P.S if any truscum piece of shit interacts with this post i'll shatter their kneecaps with a metal pipe
#tw queerphobia#tw transphobia#tw violence#anti truscum#anti transmed#pro mogai#pro neopronouns#tw assualt#tw conversion camp#tw conversion camps#truscum dni#transmeds fuck off#fuck transmeds#fuck truscum#tw child injury#tw child death#tw death#tw murder#tw death mention#tw murder mention#tw harrassment
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#wednesday#enid sinclair#this is-#umm#ma'am this is extremely unhealthy for your daughter#she's not her cousin Lucille#Lucille didn't deserve that either by the way#should i put a trigger warning for this?#i feel like i should put a trigger warning for this#tw conversion camp#tw conversion therapy
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Im finally watching The Owl House instead of just seeing spoilers on Tumblr so Im gonna live-post my reactions cuz Holy shit do I have some things to say right now-
1. Camila sounds nothing like I imagined
2. LUZ DONT THROW BOOKS AWAY WHAT THE FUCK
3. Eda sounds nothing like I thought????
4. Luz… baby… you didn’t see the door with a giant eye and- ya know what- not worth it
5. Why is Eda not sus about a human? I am definitely missing something
6. Is Alex Hirsch the voice for the guard?
7. Why hand come off?????
8. Luz is self aware. This is good.
9. HOOTY??????? THE FUCK????
10. Luz! Don’t just grab people and creatures!
11. Wait- have I been mispronouncing Luz’ name? I thought it was Luhz not Looz
12. Eda! Blackmail and manipulation isn’t cool!
13. by the way both Earth and Boiling Isles conforming places are so disgusting like the fuck
14. Luz I love you and im concerned by your lax reaction to this new world
15. the warden is disgusting
16. h- thats not how physics work??? how are the doors opening???
17. Eda you’re great for protecting the child first
18. Luz is so cool for rebellion tho
Done! I think Im gonna rewatch each episode again when I don’t pay attention enough so I can write these. Hard to remember my questions if I pay attention too hard but ya know I wanna express how I feel too
1. wait these people are overreacting sometimes. the snakes and spiders? yeah absolutely valid to run. The sausages and eyelids???? Y’all overreacting. I mean the wasted food sucks but like its obviously just sausages guys. The eyelid thing is just something at least one kid does every year and its gross but not scream and run worthy. These people are so rude. At least the principal and Camila are concerned about Luz cuz of her seemingly not recognizing what is and isnt real vs just being dicks about her hobbies. It could be much worse in that way. Also Camila worrying about Luz’ lack of friends is good, too. Some kids do fine alone, but most really do need a support system other than family.
(ugh why is the next line down here thats so annoying)
2. Boiling Isles is like- lawless??? Clearly the warden gets away with his crazy arrests (kinda like Warden from Danny Phantom) cuz he’s just a dick. Like how is the guy selling person-eating icecream allowed but a fanfic writer isnt???? Like this is all clearly a reference to queerness cuz like fanfic doesn’t bother anyone else unless you see it out whilst that icecream could absolutely hurt some random civilian. The shit queer people used to and still get in trouble for with no valid reason- this also could be referencing race as well cuz it is disgusting how many POC are arrested or hurt due to plain racism rather than justice by law.
3. oh my godex I have been saying Luz’ name wrong! I thought it was Luhz! Is it Looz cuz its short for Lucida? Also the fact Eda thinks she’s clever for a human makes me worry everyone in Boiling Isles will think Luz is dumb just because of her species which is hella speciest and yeah im worried
4. ): giraffes are cool. Eda why
5. I kinda hate Hooty not gonna lie. Also ??? Eda why you leave your stuff outside ???
6. I just realized that the Conformitorium may actually be a proper prison that just has too many lax laws. Also how tf did does Luz open and close the door????
7. Luz’ willingness to just trust Eda is concerning. Also the BK crown is funny. Eda is a softie
8. oh the doors are opened normally itd just hurt ouch. Is the scene of them falling done by that Baxter dude cuz its kinda smooth af
9. I really hope Luz’ speech means something to kids and teens. It feels cringely bad to me but im also literally 20 so its not meant for me
10. Luz… you cant just offer up your services for ANYTHING! Standards! Boundaries! Her age is showing here. (what is her age? is she like 12?)
11. That photo thing is absolutely real. Some people think its a dramatic movie thing but Ive done it genuinely. Who had the sleeping bag? Eda or Luz? Also love her phone case. Cannot imagine sleeping without a blanket.
Properly done this time! I think I’ll watch the next one once through then ask questions though cuz this took far too long. Ill remember the questions eventually.
#the owl house#first reaction#episode 1#uh#tw conversion camp mention#tw racism mention#I guess#oops im a bit too into analyzing stuff heh
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night terrors. from lumine !
𝖑𝖔𝖚𝖉 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖉𝖊𝖆𝖋𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝖘𝖎𝖑𝖊𝖓𝖈𝖊 . . .
Samael whimpers in his sleep, dark brows furrowed as he rolls to his side, then his back, then his other side, the blankets encompassing his form tangled around his long limbs. Sweat beads on his forehead, making his bangs stick to his face waywardly, and he grunts as he shakes his head from side to side. In his subconscious, he can feel the cool pressure of electrodes pressing against his skull, and when he tries to close his mouth, he whines when he feels the bite of leather. He's dreaming again, sent back to the worst time in his life —— at Psalms North, England's 'finest' conversion therapy camp.
His wide, tear-filled eyes plead with the doctor responsible for his torment in the sleep-induced illusion, and a flash of dread hits him like a splash of acid at the malicious grin donning the man's features. That grin was real, and still haunts him. Samael squeezes his eyes shut, and when the electricity courses through his brain, he screams, bolting upright. He's surprised when the bindings meant to hold him down don't work, but even more stumped and relieved to find he's in his bedroom in the dark. Lumine lays beside him, but she's awake now, startled out of sleep by her boyfriend's outburst.
Samael opens his mouth to apologize, but all that comes out is a broken sob. He melts as Lumine consumes him in a tight embrace, letting himself cry against her neck, his body shaking violently as he clings to her for dear life, his tears soaking her soft shirt. ❛❛ I'm so sorry, ❜❜ He says between his cries —— he hates that he woke Lumine up, hates that he's burdening her with his baggage.
#this is quite possibly the most brutal thing i've written in a while#im so sorry val#AIUSDHIJASD#⛧ answered. —— 𝖙𝖆𝖐𝖊 𝖒𝖊 𝖙𝖔 𝖈𝖍𝖚𝖗𝖈𝖍.#lovefell#torture tw#electrocution tw#conversion camp tw#violence tw#ask to tag
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Confession time: when I first read aftg I identified so hard with Nicky and legit thought that he would kill his father. That never came around so I promised myself I would write a fanfic about it. That also never came around, so here we are.
#nora writing Nicky as the flamboyant twink predatory Latino will forever mark her in my hate books#we elaborate on characters here#ok but ffr I was *this* close to being sent to conversion camp as a kid it was a terrifying thought to me#can’t image Nicky 2000/2001 times god#anyways#all for the game#all for the gay#all for the angst#nicky hemmick#nicholas esteban hemmick#shitpost#aftg#nicky.is.a.monster.let.him.be.one#cw: blood#tw: blood#religious trauma tw#abuse warning#tw: abuse#this idea always intrigued me bcc like. obvs you’ve got the minyards-hemmick coming full circle with the family murders#you’ve got bubbly happy nicky yeeting his facade down#you’ve got nicky who was so desperate to have his family’s acceptance in trk#and on top of his own abuse everything that happened to his cousins#obviously though this is my interpretation of the whole affair#idk pretend it’s andrew’s knife in his hand#luther hemmick#maria hemmick#hemmick-minyard family#tilda minyard#drake spear#aftg art
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one thing I do think the owl house did poorly that I never see talked about is "think inside the box" camp.
Like, it's very obviously meant to be a stand in for those "troubled teen discipline camps" but it's never not treated like a normal summer camp or a joke. Vee makes a host of friends there, including a Nonbinary goth kid.
It hits me that not everyone knows that "troubled teen camps" in reality function exactly the same and are often also conversion therapy "camps" or "boot camps". These things got real popular during the Satan Panic and other moral panics, like Procedural law shows did episodes about these places abusing goth kids as recently as the early 2000s. Evangelicals still regularly send their kids to be tortured at these places for being goth or just getting their hair dyed.
Like, Luz obviously needed help and some kind of intervention, but it's so wild to me to hear the fan base, especially the LGBT side of the fan base, going to bat for sending to that camp because no of them have any idea how these places actually operate.
It's a huge miscarriage that the show didn't protray the camp as seriously as it should've. No, I'm not saying a Disney show should have had a "conversion therapy camp", but it's honestly irresponsible to protray the place as just a summer camp (despite the literal Orwellian pamphlet showing a kid crammed into a box; Haha, funny, but that's a real and actual common punishment these places employ) when the real places this camp is a expy of are torture camps for the LGBT kids watching the show.
#the owl house#toh luz#It's honestly why I didn't watch until the second season because the first episode starting off with the jokes about sending her to camp#While knowing how those camps are in reality was so off-putting#The constant drama and seeing even LGBT fans talk about the camp is so weird because no one else seems to know those places are hell#Conversion therapy tw
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"I'm here, I'm here now."
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He feels so week for how he’s clinging to Eddie; like he’s a life raft in the turbulent ocean of Billy’s life. His dad had been convinced there was no helping his son aside from a camp a few towns over. A camp to “cure” him of his homosexuality.
They did a lot of shit while he was there that made him look at other men and want to scream. Want to cry. Want to shake apart and never be touched again. But it didn’t cure him of his love for Eddie. The bastards couldn’t make him fear the one person who had been a lifeline for him. That’s why the moment he escaped, he ran and ran until he fell into Eddie’s arms.
“Ed… I’m so tired. I can’t go home.” He’s not sure what anyone knows about why he was gone for the past week and he shudders to even think of mentioning it. “Can I stay?”
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Oh hey that's not a good emotion! Oh God I could have screwed up my entire life holy crap!
#My parents went through my phone and found the trans edits I made in the trash#I lied abt it so hard so they thought someone else made them#Literally made up an entire story abt an annoying kid sending me them and me blocking them so they wouldn't know#And like?? It's just now fully setting in that I could have actually fr screwed up my entire life?#Like. If they knew there's a good chance they would permanently take or at least heavily monitor my phone meaning no more Tumblr or discord#And they would probably look into something like a conversion camp or conversion therapy#If they hadn't thrown me out then and there#It's just. It's never really been this obvious how bad of a position I'm in before? And now I just feel really really really scared?#I could have my entire life upended any minute now and I wouldn't have many options to turn to#Idk it's just so terrifying and idk what to do#Vent#Transphobia tw
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just browsing on good reads for upcoming queer books and- OH MY GOD,
A non porn book from our king? (hilariously this is listed as his horror debut. like sure, maybe his debut in the genre, but my man must have like a few hundred books at this point)
needless to say I WILL be buying this
#chuck tingle#tw homophobia#apparently its about a conversion camp so it will be hella triggering for some
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