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Wake up, babe, new favorite episode of television just dropped.
#that was some quality Distortion content#never been more giddy watching anything ever#more shows should make me doubt the validity of their events#unreliable narration please!#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#btvs s6e17#btvs episode normal again#i will never be normal about it I Need to Scream
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also, HAPPY 27TH ANNIVERSARY YIPPEEEEEE <333
#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#buffyverse#btvs meta#btvs poll#btvs season 6#buffy season 6#buffy summers#btvs 6x17 normal again#poll#tumblr poll#im genuinely so interested to see what people actually think of this ep#because I love the open ended ending and have multiple interpretations myself#I’m also thinking of writing a normal-again-verse fic so stay tuned if you love the episode lol!!
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not so normal again
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Relationships: Buffy Summers & Dawn Summers, Spike & Dawn Summers, Tara Maclay & Buffy Summers
Additional Tags: Canon Rewrite, Rewrite, Episode: s06e17 Normal Again, Missing Scene, Dawn has powers, because of course she should she's an ancient mystical energy!!! why would they never expand on that??, tara to the rescue, mostly pretty canon compliant, but just with More because the whole second half of the episode is so rushed, and the ending is different
Summary:
“Don’t you knock?”
Buffy just stands in the doorway. “I called for you.”
Dawn glances at her. Buffy’s voice is faint and her eyes are glazed. She still looks sick, like she shouldn’t even be up. “Buffy, are you okay?”
“I will be."
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Rewrite of "Normal Again" with some Spike & Dawn friendship, a different Summers Sister fight and bamf Tara Maclay
Read on AO3
#the second half of normal again is one of the most frustrating parts of btvs for me because IT COULD'VE BEEN GREAT#instead it is not only boring and disappointing and forgettable but it doesn't even make sense? so Rewrite!#btvs#my fics#buffy the vampire slayer#dawn summers#buffy summers#tara maclay#dawn & spike#buffy & dawn#buffy & tara#rewrite#6x17#normal again#Episode: s06e17 Normal Again#s06e17
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Top five btvs headcannons?
Hmm. Lots of options to choose from, but let's go with:
Of all the deaths we see on the show that the characters are weirdly blase about and never talk about again (which is most of them) the one I feel should matter most is Kendra's. The writers very obviously don't care about Kendra at all (in a way that makes me pretty angry if I think about it for long) but, at the same, the only way I can reconcile my idea of Who Buffy Is As A Person with the events of the post-Becoming seasons is to try to persuade myself that Buffy is thinking about Kendra a lot of the time, and that this meaningfully affects her relationship with Faith in Season 3 (and, for that matter, with Dawn in Season 5 and the Potentials in Season 7 too). Because, yes, Faith represents a lot of Buffy's own supressed thoughts and desires, and yes, there are lots of parallels in Season 3 between Faith and Angel. But the very fact Faith exists as a Slayer at all should be enough to remind Buffy of the Slayer who was called after her and died before her. How could that not bleed into her relationship with Faith as a person? How can Buffy not look at Faith and be constantly thinking of the Slayer she failed to save? (According to the show's writers, the answer is: very, very easily.[1])
Sort of a meta-headcanon (a headcanon schema?), but: as far as possible, I like to believe that the Buffy characters who are meant to be friends might actually talk to each other sometimes. And when we don't see various personal conflicts get resolved on screen, yet everything seems back to normal later (especially between seasons), I tend to assume they just talked things through a bit off-camera. Probably Buffy and Xander had a conversation after Dead Man's Party which involved him offering a grovelling apology, which is why they're still on speaking terms later that season. Probably Joyce and Buffy actually talked a bit about her being the Slayer before Faith, Hope & Trick, so that Joyce's claim to have "tried to march in the Slayer Pride Parade isn't as absurd as it seems to be on the face of it". Probably Giles and Buffy talked about the Cruciamentum a bit after Helpless, which is why she's forgiven him by the time the next episode starts and she never brings his role up in it again. In particular, this is why I kind of hate the reveal in Season 7's Selfless that Xander never admitted to his Lie in Becoming, and that Buffy just spent the last five years thinking Willow decided to try to cast the spell to restore Angel's soul again without asking Buffy's permission or giving her any warning she was about to try it beyond "kick his ass".
There really isn't any evidence for it in canon and I suspect it's ultimately purely the invention of one of the early 2000s Fuffy writers, but I really like the popular fanfiction conceit that there is some sort of mystical connection between Slayers which (in a way that varies a little depending on the writer) gives them some additional awareness of the other Slayer's presence or emotional state. Not just because I'm enough of a sap to think that that's kind of romantic (although I am and I do), but because it's a nice way to explain away some slightly contrived bits of plotting in the show (all three Slayers have a way of finding each other very quickly when the plot requires it). In the same spirit, though with perhaps a little more evidence in canon, I like the idea that Buffy and Faith's shared dreams don't just happen when we see them, but have basically been going on ever since Faith arrived in Sunnydale (or at least since Faith's coma). Also, relatedly, I still like this headcanon I posted last month.
Sort of an anti-headcanon in some ways, but I refuse to accept that Buffy's memory of trying to tell her parents about vampires back in LA -- and being briefly institutionalized as a result -- (which was revealed/retconned in Season 6's Normal Again) is real. I think that (whatever the show claims) it had to have been a false memory implanted by the same demon that was giving her visions of still being there. Say what you like about whether or not the Joyce we see on the show was a good parent, but this is just blatant character assassination of the worst sort. It completely changes how we have to see Buffy's relationship with her mother and makes several scenes and outright plot points absurd (even if Joyce is the sort of monster who could forget about having her doctor locked up, even after learning that actually Buffy was always telling the truth, why would a Buffy who had been through that still keep a diary in the house she shares with her mother where she talked about the supernatural or prominently put up crucifixes in her house or make jokes about 'saving the world from vampires' when her mother asked her what she was thinking? why would she care about her mother's opinion of her at all? why would she wait until Season 2 to run away from home, and why would she ever come back?). Taken seriously, this just totally undermines a major part of Buffy's character and one of the most important relationships in her life. And for what? A stupid "maybe this is all a dream?" ending to the episode that means nothing and never goes anywhere. No, fuck that. Didn't happen and I simply refuse to believe it did. (I also strongly dislike the idea that it's a false memory caused by Dawn's presence; Dawn doesn't deserve to be blamed for that and her existence isn't meant to have had that big of an impact on the world.)
[1] Actually if I'm being totally honest I suspect that if you polled most of the show's writers with this question the answer you'd get back would be "who's Kendra?"
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Do any of these episodes send you into a frothy rage if you think about how popular they are? rant away in the tags about it, go nuts!
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TARA: "Buffy, I promise there's nothing wrong with you."
BUFFY: "There has to be. This can't be me. It isn't me."
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TARA: "It's not that simple."
BUFFY: "It is. It's wrong. I'm wrong. Tell me that I'm wrong, please."
Buffy and Tara have a short but very significant dynamic. I've talked about it before when writing about Tara's use and representation in each individual dream in 'Restless'. That for Buffy Tara is a means of identifying and communicating with the deepest parts of herself. A narrative and thematic vehicle for understanding her identity and nature. The parts of herself that she doesn't love and doesn't have any appreciation for. The parts of herself that make her feel wrong and ashamed of herself. The parts of herself that she wants to escape from and hide away. 'BtVS' effectively uses the metaphor or allegory of being a supernatural being like a witch or a slayer or a werewolf or a vampire for being queer. For being an outsider. Cut off from others. Cut off from humanity. And they do it in such a way where you're not meant to believe it as such but to just acknowledge it and entertain the thought that the characters themselves think and feel this way about themselves because they're not really shown or told the contrary until they interact with each other and learn and grow together in solidarity in their experiences of being different from the norm. The writers are basically showing through characters like Buffy, Willow, Tara, Oz and Spike that the supernatural equates to queerness either in identity, sexuality, gender or just in general beingness. Just in being the person that you are. In being yourself.
There's added layers on to it when it comes to the dynamics between Buffy and Spike and Tara and Willow specifically in that it could also mean that they are actually evil in nature as well as queer but going down that route leads to controversial misinterpretations and I don't want to fall into that considering sometimes my words can get me into trouble and I end up insulting or offending a lot of people when I don't mean to. I personally think it's a compelling topical area to explore but I'm not writing this piece of writing today to explore it. Only in what it means regarding being and feeling queer in oneself and, for me, the dynamic Buffy and Tara have best represents that. I suppose for some people who haven't identified and accepted that they're queer, it can come across as feeling evil depending on their cultural background. Their family and home life in particular. And I think the episode 'Family' does a great deal for and in addressing this. Tara has, up to this point, spent her whole life being told by her biological relatives that she's evil or would turn evil. She's been gaslighted and psychologically conditioned to think, feel and believe that her identity and nature as who she is as a person naturally is wrong and is something that she should be ashamed about all because she can do magic. All because she can do things that normal people cannot do - and thus - she's not normal - she's not natural - she's not human. In some ways the demonization of being or feeling queer has a lot of significance and therefore merit in providing overwhelming narrative and thematic substance and depth for 'BtVS's clever take on characterization in a supernatural Universe.
When it comes to the episode 'Dead Things' Buffy is undergoing severe depression and is doing incredibly self-destructive things to feel something again. Something other than her deep despair at being pulled out of heaven by her friends - Tara included. She obviously doesn't like feeling the way she does when she does it but her justification for doing those self-destructive things is because she's come back to life wrong. When she goes to Tara to ask her to check out the spell that resurrected her and Tara comes back to her to tell her that she hasn't come back wrong - that she isn't wrong - she completely breaks down because now that means that she has no justification for doing what she's doing. For using Spike for sexual and emotional gratification, for neglecting her sister and letting her get injured by another one of her friends that's also fell off the wagon - so to speak - and is also involving herself in self-destructive relationships and behaviours with being addicted to magic and numbing herself to her experience, for not making an effort. All of this now is something that she has to question herself on. That if there's not something wrong with her mentally - why is she like this? Why is she doing this? She's just at a complete loss for logic, for reason, for understanding. It's a very effective and meaningful allegory for being queer and not understanding why. Especially because it's Tara she's crying into the lap of in that moment who is queer and can completely empathise with Buffy's experience of being attracted to somebody who she shouldn't be attracted to. And there is a line of dialogue that was removed from the final cut of the scene that explicitly compares Tara being a lesbian and having romantic/sexual feelings for girls to Buffy having feelings for Spike. She gets it because she's been there. She's felt that way too. May even still does even if she's fully out and fully accepted her sexuality. But she knows all too well what it's like to feel wrong for being queer.
Therefore there's a lot to glean about Buffy and Tara's dynamic and what it represents, what its significance is, despite being so short and non-detailed. You could even go as far as saying the metaphor or allegory isn't really one at all because Buffy is actually queer in both identity and sexuality. I mean the narrative hints at this being truth enough times in the show that you could definitely see it happening or becoming a possibility at some point in her character arc. And you know, with the whole Faith thing, it's not exactly well hidden either. Even though I don't ship them at all, Buffy and Faith definitely have something romantic/sexual there that all but makes the metaphor or allegory negated as far as sexuality goes. Identity is another story. And one of Buffy's core themes for her characterization is identity - which is why the Tara = witch/Buffy = slayer parallels work so well and why they so brilliantly convey the notion of queer/gay solidarity.
As for whether that makes them evil or means that they can be evil... that's a topic better left alone but I think it does present a compelling case study for a queer person's experience when they do not understand nor accept themselves for being as they naturally are, which I think is something that makes a lot of sense for the character arcs of Willow, Spike and Oz too in that they have trouble reconciling with their dark sides and that there's much of themselves that they suppress or repress so they don't have to feel like who they are is wrong or evil or a burden to the ones they love and that love them. And that they can be involved and fully connect with others healthily as opposed to destroying themselves and each other in the process like Buffy and Spike do so frequently in their S6 enemies-to-lovers dance of death, abuse and pain sorely mistaken for life, love and pleasure.
There's definitely a compelling case study for all of that to be unpacked and I probably will unpack it at some point once I can figure out how to articulate it so that it doesn't come off as offensive to the people who identify themselves to any of these characters because my intention is never to offend. Only to teach and enlighten. Okay, maybe I don't have the right or authority to do that but I write my meta for me just as much as I do for other people and so I certainly have the right and authority to teach and enlighten myself. And if I feel that I want to write about that topic at some point, I will. And I will do so through the fiction of art/entertainment and my favourite characters because that's the best way that I know how. If it comes across as offensive, all I can do is apologize for it but all I'm intentionally trying to do with doing it is expand my consciousness. I'm an INTP, a Virgo and Claircognizant - this is just how things work with me. I need to write to get a better understanding of who I am. My wording isn't the greatest, I know that. But I'm trying my best. So please - if you read what I write and you feel offended by it, reach out to me and I WILL explain to you that my heart is in the right place. That I just want to learn and understand and evolve. That's all it is.
#buffy the vampire slayer#buffy summers#sarah michelle gellar#tara maclay#amber benson#identity#nature#witch#slayer#queer#gay#lesbian#bisexual#solidarity#family#dead things#characterization#character representation#character development#character dynamic#analysis
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wanna talk about all the things i love and wish were developed more in the btvs boys
- xander is never a coward even though he repeatedly says he is/looks down on himself and his abilities. he is sometimes even more willing than buffy to go into to danger to protect his friends in the first few seasons, and although it's written as an excuse to 'get the girl' it never ends up that way. i wish instead of them having him remain a "weaker" comedy character and pressing on his insecurities they let him begin to trust himself and have the others trust his abilities in turn. s3e13 'The Zeppo' is such a COOL fucking episode for him but no one else knows what happened and he goes back to being "the same old xander" afterwards. I wish he was written to be allowed to grow into his confidence without directly growing his insecurities towards the girls and their levels of power. in later seasons he does but then his old insecurities pop up just for the writers to cause group friction. anyway i wish we got to see more of just xander, I think that would've been so fun and cool
- i love early s4 Average Joe riley. he's just a dorky guy who loves psychology and doesn't even realise when he has a crush. I love that he's awkward and the potential he and willow had for friendship that kind of petered off. sometimes I really wish that they'd let him actually be an Average Joe and see what that changed for the season. and we never really see that awkward side of him again! he had all the traits to be a malewife and they took that from us because they wanted a strongman instead :[
- giles' morals degrading over the series!!!! him being so proper at the beginning and each apocalypse/major event undoing that just a bit more. realising that if he is Buffy's Certified Adult then she deserves his full and absolute protection wherever he can provide it. and he does fall into the dad role quite well but he is first and foremost a Protector (which he isn't meant to be because he's a Watcher!!!). also I don't think I've seen anyone talk about him putting on the record he and joyce were playing during band candy shenanigans after her death. and him full out killing ben end of s5 :D
- angel!!! angel being a dumbass!! you don't get to see it much in btvs so I guess this is more ats content but listen! he's new at having a soul and sure there's the guilt and the brooding and the torment but there's also joy and humour and comfort and silliness. angelus is a very focused character who does feel things, but only very intensely and basically one at a time. angel feels it all at once! and he gets to have fun, or he should. ats shenanigans are good for the heart, he deserves cordy and wes being annoying and lorne dragging him to parties and playing video games with gus and fred.
- oz has that autistic rizz (I know this because I'm autistic and had a dream we kissed)
- spike [LOUD YELLING, SCREAMING, CRIES OF THE DAMNED AND DOOMED TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY] haha yeah nothing much to say here. just a totally normal guy.
#if i ever slander characters I AM SLANDERING THE WRITERS#BELIEVE ME#it just makes me sad that they decided xander could only be shaggy OR fred#and not a character created for his own purpose#xander harris#rupert giles#riley finn#daniel 'oz' osbourne#spike#angel#angelus#buffy summers#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#buffyverse#btvs meta
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Why BTVS 5x16 The Body needs to win in that poll over the MASH series finale...
You can argue that the series finale of a very popular show was always gonna have huge viewership because it's the SERIES FINALE. (Point for MASH)
You can argue that MASH was a 2.5 hour movie length episode and comparing it to a 44 minute regular length episode of TV - in the middle of the season no less - isn't fair. (to me it's a point for BTVS, but some may see this as a point for MASH)
But here's what it boils down to...
MASH's series finale touched on each main character and wrapped up the loose ends. Their main point was war sucks and it fucks people up. One character realizes that their memory is incorrect and something truly terrible happened, and while he didn't do it he witnessed it. (This is the part that stays with me after watching this episode, years ago.) A ceasefire is announced but people still die after that. War sucks, but we love these characters and we hope they do OK post war. War sucks, love each other.
You can get something out of the MASH series finale if you randomly watched it, but it's broad. And really, even if you watched every episode, it's pain but it's broad.
The Body? The motherfucking episode The Body??
(Obviously huge SPOILERS ahead)
You could not know ANYTHING about any of these characters and still cry your eyes out at it. That first take? That long take with no cuts where Buffy finds her mom lying on the couch? The way SMG is acting? Like two levels better than her always amazing acting level? The way every little detail of that take is perfection? The crew really needs to take a bow for this one. The fake out of Buffy's fantasy that the paramedics revive her?
The way Buffy tells Giles "We're not supposed to move the body!" What she says. The way she says it. The way she reacts to it, realizing what she said.
It's not broad. It's specific, so specific. The way the different people react. The way everyone feels helpless. The way Buffy is on auto-pilot at some points. The sound, OMG the fucking sound!!
(pauses to sip some water)
The fake out of Dawn hearing the news. Buffy going to tell Dawn. The way EVERYBODY fucking knows it's BAD news. The way Dawn reacts. (OMG the sound again!!) The way the rest of the school witnesses it.
Tara and Willow comforting each other. (OMG I forgot about all of this. Jesus. And OMG it's their first on-screen kiss.) "Strong like an Amazon."
(flips table)
Willow talking about what to wear. Anya's questions. And then. Anya's fucking monologue, with her voice twisting. JFC that fucking monologue.
"... and no one will explain to me why."
(yes of course i'm crying)
The quiet moment where Tara comforts Buffy.
"I know it's different for you … because it's always different, but … if you ever need…"
And then. "... it's always sudden."
The way at the end there is still normal everyday stuff to do, and it sucks but you have to do it, because that's what life is.
Grief will fuck you up. You will feel helpless. Love each other. Just being there is something. Objectively this feels like just as strong a message as the MASH message. But really, I feel like a lot of people know the message from MASH, even without experiencing war. But experiencing loss at the level of The Body? It's so motherfucking personal.
You wanna vote for MASH because it had higher numbers, go ahead.
You wanna vote for MASH because you like the characters more, fine.
But don't tell me that the MASH finale is better than The Body. Don't waste my fucking time.
Vote here
TLDR: The Body went deep and focused and FUCK does it hit.
#btvs#ep: 5x16 the body#buffy summers#SMG#the body is cinematic brilliance all anchored by the performance of all time by SMG#and very strong performances by everyone else#long post
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BTVS “Every Outfit” “Normal Again” Xx
A very muted natural colour pallet for such a traumatic episode!!!
Not one but two “Buffy and her hats” looks today! Buffy staple fashion piece of season 6, I prefer that lighter coloured one this episode, I also just prefer that whole look in general. I love a jacket with a tie belt!!!
I love the coziness of the sweater look! I also love how Buffy’s hair is tied up and it reminds me so much of Buffy’s season 2 & 3 updo’s. Her hair is also a little lighter this episode but I forgot to capture it!!!
A super casual look with the white hoodie and those stappy training shoes that miss Summers really loves so much! I love the little detail of the rose gold coloured zipper!!!
#buffy the vampire slayer#btvs#buffy summers#buffy#buffythevampireslayer#buffyoutfits#fanart#artwork#buffy fanart#btvs fanart#fashion#buffy fashion#90s fashion
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it’s the way btvs is engaging with the fundamental instability of “truth” and memory with the introduction of dawn because we and the characters have entirely different memories of s1-s4. we will never see the version they know they lived and they will never see the version we believe to be “true” and “real”. is the version we saw more true because it’s the story on our screen that we have access to . is theirs, the one with dawn, more true because it’s the one they really know. there’s no answer. no one involved has the “real” story of buffy the vampire slayer. it’s the instability of absolute knowledge . “you’re just a girl” “that’s what I keep saying” in the season finale of the season where the whole world changes . reality so unstable it must be iterated again and again. reality so clear you know it even as everyone tells you it’s something different . all of this coming down to — there is your sister in the world and you love her. is that “true?”. who cares, you love her. even if it’s not true, it’s real. it’s “the wish” to “normal again” . the wish — “how do you know the other world is any better than this one” “because it has to be” — the world for the characters in the wishverse is just as real as the world they resume at the end of the episode, the pre-dawn timeline. both equally real and not real. it’s buffy in the asylum choosing the world with her sister in it even if it’s not “real” — who’s to say one thing is more real than the other. it’s “graduation day” — “is this your mind or mine?” “beats me” in a moment where dawn’s existence is peeking through the ether (counting down from 730…). is this your mind or mine. is the remembered world of the viewers real? realER than the one remembered in-show that we never see? beats me. it’s just whatever we keep saying.
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The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Tuesday, April 9
Cordelia: Somebody is after me! They just tried to kill Ms. Miller? Uh, she was helping me with my homework. And Mitch! And Harmony?! This is all about me! Me, me, me!
Xander: Wow! For once she's right!
Buffy: So you've come to *me* for help.
Cordelia: (nods) Because you're always around when all this weird stuff is happening. And I know you're very strong, and you've got all those weapons... I was kind of hoping you were in a gang.
~~Buffy Episode #11: "Out of Mind, Out of Sight" ~~
[Drabbles & Short Fiction]
the spark (Spike, unrated) by ialwayscomewhenyoucall
Try to Keep Satisfied (Buffy/Spike, E) by ClowniestLivEver
Birthday Blues (Buffy/Spike, E) by RavenLove12
What I Like About Spike (Buffy/Spike, E) by RavenLove12
Play Thing (Buffy/Spike, E) by Maxine Eden
[Chaptered Fiction]
Catching Heat Ch. 1 (Buffy/Tara, E) by mabus101
The Witching Hour: Ch, 1/25 () by TheLightdancer
In the Company of Witches and Slayers Ch. 4/200 (Willow/Tara, E) by VladimirHarkonnen (TheLightdancer)
A Reincarnation in Sunnydale Ch. 35/? (Buffy/Angel, M) by DracoRim98
Goodbye to Everything That I Knew Ch. 28/30 (Buffy/Spike, M) by My_Barbaric_Yawp
Angel Doesn’t Know Ch. 1/? (Buffy/Spike, E) by My_Barbaric_Yawp
With Arms Wide Open Ch. 28/? (Buffy/Giles, E) by jaybird023
Ripped Stockings Ch. 1/? (Jenny/Giles, E) by TheClowniestLivInExistence
The Reason Why Ch. 7 (Buffy/OC, M) by Xyex
Switch Swith Ch. 1-10/10 COMPLETE (Buffy/Spike, E) by sunalso
Ashes to Ashes, We All Fall Down Ch 1-2/2 COMPLETE (Spike/Drusilla, unrated) by Scar_Eve
hit rewind Ch. 47/? (Buffy/Spike, M) by untiljanuary
49 Cemeteries Ch. 21 (Buffy/Spike,, T) by firemanwhenthefloodsrollback
Early One Morning , Chapter 31 (Buffy/Spike, E) by all choseny
The Neighbor's Point of View, Chapter 98 (Buffy/Spike, G) by the_big_bad
Celebrating You, Chapter 7 (Buffy/Spike, E) by RavenLove12
Sculpture of Dance , Chapter 11 (Buffy/Spike, M) by Desicat
Hope is the thing with feathers, Chapter 2-9 (Buffy/Spike, E) by will_
Her Villanelle, Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, M) by Geliot99
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Artwork:Buffy () by bethrnoora
Artwork:Cordy, Willow, and Buffy () by yarboyandy
Artwork:Angel & Cordy () by artsying-ifer
Artwork:Dark Willow & Dawn () by fox-toothed
Icons: Slayers icons () by onegirlinallthewrld
Video: BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER - Barbie Promo (Fan Trailer) () by Trailerventure
[Reviews & Recaps]
BTVS/Angel Rewatch Chronicles: Seasons 5/2, Part Two by QualifiedApathetic
Mothman’s Buffy Rewatch, Season 2, episode 22, Becoming (Part 2) by mothmans-wedding-photographer
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Spring 2024 Round - Pick a Theme by seasonal-spuffyAs promised we are back for the spring round. We still haven't found a new home for Seasonal Spuffy. The sad news is that this round will be our last round on lj/dw. We hope you help us spread the word, so we can go out with a great last round.
Tuesday: Vices by comment-fic
I run a discord server for Buffyverse rarepairs. by riley-summers
[Fandom Discussions]
Was thinking about Riley being an annoying character and something came to mind. by clockwards
Sorry thinking about Buffy breaking down to Tara again and Spike and Tara’s gentle friendship. by clockwards
“came back wrong” trope except she came back normal by thirstghosting
Ughhhh ew who is this Riley bitch. by loonyoz
what if faith during her redemption arc tried being a dog walker by annieofhearts
Summarizing the shit I’ve been ranting about to my buffy freaks this week re: “you arent the source of me” by breezybeej
Oh man, the Nice Guy energy radiating off Xander when Buffy turns him down for the dance is insane. by nicnacsnonsense
Literally one of my all time favorite interactions in btvs by hersterical
nothing makes me more evil than seeing someone misinterpret daniel “oz” osbourne of buffy the vampire slayer fame. by joe-spookyy
My favorite part of Buffy The Vampire Slayer by transgender-spiderman
What if Buffy fell in love with Spike first and was the one running around like a crazy weirdo by skyegraves21
maybe i don't understand how relationships work. by momsforroadhead
Bangel and Cangel parallels II by oveliagirlhaditright
Some Bangel and Cangel Parallels I've Noticed and Decided to Compile Together for Fun by oveliagirlhaditright
these are my picks for the best Buffy episodes in every slot of each season. by coraniaid
People in whose image The First should have appeared at least once during Season 7: by coraniaid
I feel like After Life did a great job at showing depression/loss by Anyanka_Tin
Bronze: 2024 music update by thepalebeast91
Rewatcher: anyone else annoyed with Ash&Angel episodes? by Prestigious_Olive_19
How was Angel enter into the apartment Faith broke into in s1e18 “Five by Five”? by dude19832
The loose ends - and how should they have been tied up? by artmalique
What are the best storylines in your least favorite season? by sadhungryandvirgin
First time watch by BlazinAsianNation
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Checkpoint: The Watcher Council travels to Sunnydale to review Buffy's skills as a Slayer; meanwhile, Glory puts her search for the Key into high gear.
Doppelgangland: While casting a magic spell, Anya and Willow accidentally summon Willow's evil double from an alternate universe.
Prophecy Girl: Giles discovers an ancient book foretelling Buffy's death at the hands of the Master.
Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered: As Valentine's Day approaches, Xander tries to improve his love life through witchcraft and finds himself with too much of a good thing.
Graduation Day (Part 1): In an effort to distract Buffy from the Ascension, the mayor instructs Faith to poison Angel.
Same Time, Same Place: Willow's return proves problematic when she is literally unable to see her friends--and is left with a creature that paralyzes its victims.
Beauty and the Beasts: Oz becomes the prime suspect when a series of animal-like attacks occur in Sunnydale.
Normal Again: After Buffy is stung by a demon, she begins to have vivid day-dreams about a mental asylum. She gradually begins to believe that she is a crazy girl back in L.A and that Sunnydale and all her friends are just a figment of her imagination.
Buffy vs. Dracula: The one-and-only Dracula makes his way to Sunnydale and immediately has everyone enchanted. Even Buffy might not be able to resist his charms.
Showtime: Buffy has to keep the ever increasing number of potential Slayers from panicking while Giles and Anya seek answers from the Beljoxa's Eye.
Seeing Red: Willow and Tara wallow in their togetherness, but things aren't as happy everywhere else. Buffy has to face both Xander and Spike, whilst tracking Warren and Company to foil their next move.
Earshot: A mouthless demon infects Buffy with the ability to hear everyone's thoughts, but what starts out as a useful power soon turns into a curse.
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continuing my btvs semi-liveblog
season 4 episode 3 ("the harsh light of day")
"SHE LEFT HIM FOR A FUNGUS DEMON" ASDHFAKSDJFKASHDFKAHSDFKJASDFJ AKSJDFKALSJDJ ASDJFAKSJD KASJD F
the way spike just BOOKS IT out of the club. iconic. outstanding. no notes
"i'm waiting to see if i freckle" no one is doing it like him
season 4 episode 4 ("fear, itself")
halloween episode !
giles has a chainsaw
giles. he has a chainsaw. contemplating this
season 4 episode 5 ("beer bad")
oh we love a bubbling beaker. we love a set of bubbling beakers. we love an intricate web of multicolored bubbling beakers while scary high pitched music plays
cave? men? cavemen?
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cavemen.
any episode where xander is the nominal hero / save-the-day guy is automatically just so perfectly beautifully stupid, i love it
GILES IS WEARING GILES-LIKE CLOTHES AGAIN. thank god. not that i didn't appreciate the extremely divorced dad look, but it's just not healthy when a giles isn't wearing a blazer or a suit. it's a sign the giles terarrium is misaligned. it's not proper care and feeding of your giles.
season 4 episode 6 ("wild at heart")
why is every other episode about romantic jealousy and romantic insecurity. i understand this type of jealousy is an emotion that other humans experience but i literally never have. my personal problems are flavored much differently. is it really so ubiquitous that EVERY OTHER episode can realistically be about relationship jealousy? like? how does your brain not explode from that? simply cannot relate. it feels like these storylines move in circles, never actually progressing.
the daylight campus scenes are lit realistically and they really do look like an actual UC campus omfg...
i s2g every season they completely change their mind about what a werewolf looks like asdfhasdjfaksdjfkajskfjkasdfkjasdkfjaksd fasj they're really just throwing darts at a dartboard here
the director chickened out of showing the naked post-transformation cross-campus scuttle, huh. just typical
at 19:03: i totally have willow's green fake leather pants
oz is being very silly.
looking at the stickers on the rear window of oz's van, i'm wondering what the characters' laptop stickers would look like in the age of personal computing
season 4 episode 7 ("the initiative")
so we open with several TAs -- well, at least one is a TA; i think the others might just be non-freshman undergrads? possibly? can't quite figure out how i'm supposed to read them -- talking about how they want to have sex with freshmen. freshwomen? i guess? i know that was a relatively normal thing to see on tv in 1998. feels weird today.
oh good, spike is back. he's been such a failguy this season and i'm honestly loving it
ORGANIZATION STORES MONSTERS IN A GRIDDED ARRAY OF WHITE CUBES! THAT'S MY #34th FAVORITE EXTREMELY NICHE SCI FI HORROR VISUAL TROPE!
i had a horror film professor who did a cool analysis of that visual schema in cabin in the woods (the mid-2010s film; unrelated to buffy except by genre) by talking about the collector-impulse and the "biggest crossover event ever" fannish pleasure-via-ordered-recognition you see in overdetermined franchise media like the mcu
okay i'm not explaining that well but in my defense this tumblr post is not a graded assignment
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btvs rewatch
season 1 episode 1: welcome to the hellmouth
(to everyone who doesn’t care about my notes on my buffy rewatch I will be tagging them all as “max rewatches buffy”)
• I like this intro guys voice, I know he gets replaced by giles but this guys so… idk. campy??
• xander never skateboards again after this episode (at least not on screen)
• I always forget about jesse. so does everyone on the show
• willow is autistic and I love her
• thinking about the differences between this and the original pilot
• oh giles, could you tone it down just a bit?
• “hey aphrodisia!!!”
• I feel like “how did he die” is a normal question. “were there any marks?”maybe not so much.
• “this is sunnydale. how bad of an evil can there be” oh buffy babygirl you have no idea
• that velvet suit jacket on angel is definitely a choice. just can’t tell what kind of choice
• willows whole “I can’t talk when I’m around boys I like” thing could really be explained as comphet if we were reading into it. which I am. (but I also just think she’s like under the queer umbrella possibly bi)
• “seize the moment because tomorrow you might be dead” isn’t very groundbreaking my love (and the phrase carpe diem isn’t very memorable for buffy clearly)
• cordy says “or its at least chronic fatigue syndrome. nobody cool has epstein barr anymore” I think that’s because everyone has it at some point
• I cringe every time I watch the scene of buffy accidentally confronting cordelia with a stake “god. what is your childhood trauma?” “excuse me I have to call everyone I have ever met right now”
• buffy saying she wants to “have some friends maybe a dog” and god I’m so glad she didn’t get a dog
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A tv moment that unfortunately lives rent free in my head is Faith’s “What are you gonna do, B? Kill me? You become me.” line in Enemies. Because, no, Buffy won’t.
Shows in general, and BtVS in particular in this arc, do this whole, “the hero can’t kill the villain - that’s just as bad as what the villain is doing!” And it’s just not. I understand Xander’s line episodes later in Graduation Day Pt 1, when he says, “I don’t want to lose you”, because killing someone, even someone who is hell bent on destroying the world and cannot be held by the normal judicial system, would definitively hurt and possibly change Buffy at a core level. Because killing people - hurting people - has been shown time and again to be something Buffy mourns deeply. But killing Faith in Enemies, killing her in Graduation Day, killing her in season 4’s This Year’s Girl, isn’t the same as Faith killing indiscriminately or for the purpose of ending the world. Faith tried to release Angelus. Faith is down with the Mayor’s plans. Faith is pissed off that after those things, Buffy had the *nerve* to fight back. It’s Buffy’s job to protect humanity from the things normal human systems can’t handle, and evil Slayers fall under that purview. The show makes the argument, through Faith and then a bit through Xander, that this is different, because Faith is different. Because killing Faith puts Buffy on a path to, what, killing more people? But that’s just not true. Faith didn’t continue killing because she accidentally killed Allen Finch and got a taste for it. She keeps killing because she - at this point - is a nihilistic character who doesn’t see or understand the good in the world. She has been failed time and time again, by her family, by the system, by The Watcher’s Council - and her rage and fear and self-loathing brings her down this path. But that’s not Buffy’s path. If Buffy kills Faith here, it hurts Buffy. It might even destroy a real and vulnerable part of her. But she won’t become Faith. She’ll still be a hero - just maybe one who won’t like herself as much. And, hey, we got that in season 6, so.
#buffy the vampire slayer#buffy summers#faith lehane#I’m of the opinion that more evil characters should have died#i love spike’s redemption arc - they should have killed him at the end of season 4#I’m okay with Faith’s turn around#she should have died in season 3#i understand the point of the show at the end of the day is forgiveness and compassion and redemption#but damn a lot of people died for it#and honestly#there’s something weird about how these characters are prioritized by the show over the innocents Buffy is trying to protect#it makes the characters seem… dumber? more naive? than they’re supposed to be#to just let spike run around#to hope Faith’s gonna turn it around#and it works out because narratively they make it work#but at moments it’s infuriating#i say this as someone who loves spike btw
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