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c0riiander · 3 months

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well of course it starts from the boss

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #fukuzawa yukichi #mori ougai #bsd fukumori #kousano #kunichuuzai #shin soukoku #doodles #this is dumb

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poe-tat · 30 days

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Fukumori and shipping lol

Fukazawa: Mori you don't understand my ship is better than yours

Mori: Nuh uh

Fukazawa: the fuck you mean "nuh-uh"

Mori: exactly I mean

Fukazawa: Ranpo and Poe

Mori: yea and Dazai and Chuuya is better

Fukazawa: no they aren't

-arguing insues-

Meanwhile

Dazai and Ranpo: *playing rock paper scissors out of boredom*

Chuuya: *writing poetry*

Poe: *writing novels*

Part 2(finale)

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #incorrect bsd quotes #incorrect quotes #bsd incorrect quotes #bsd dazai #bsd chuuya #bsd skk #skk #bsd ranpoe #bsd ranpo #bsd poe #bsd mori #bsd fukuzawa #bsd fukumori #i didn't know what i wanted chuuya and poe to do so they be writing together #chuuya writing poetry is a nod to the real life chuuya being a poet

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welivetodream · 3 months

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BSD and Shipping

Since Valentine's day was coming I was interested in discussing a huge part of the BSD fandom: Shipping

( ⚠️ RANT INCOMING. DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED ABOUT OPINIONS ON SHIPPING. PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS IN COMMENTS AND REBLOGS. ⚠️)

So where to start?

For a long time I have been noticing one specific trend in the BSD subreddit. And that are posts that talk about unpopular opinions/Headcanons/fav or least fav ships etc.

What I find interesting about these posts is that one thing is always in the forefront, and it's the debates about the sexualities of the characters in BSD. While Headcanons can be annoying and some people do push their opinions on others, there is nuance that is lacking in the community when discussing some topics. Finding posts about Mori being a pedo and how Dazai is unlikable or overrated is very easy and the discussions surrounding topics like that are always the same. People would pick sides and end up writing a lot about what their opinion is and while that's valid, it also ends up in fandom wars where it's hard to like or dislike something without your head being in the chopping block.

Now let's go to the original topic: shipping. To examine the environment of shipping culture in BSD fandom we have to start with the headcanons that people have adopted for sexualities of the characters.

1. THE PROBLEM WITH HETRO-NORMATIVITY

Now, the posts about shipping often contain a lot of people writing paragraphs and paragraphs about what ships they like or dislike.

One of the ships that takes the most bullets for its existence and popularity is Soukoku or Shin Soukoku. There are lots of comments about these ships that "remind" us that canonically Dazai, Chuuya, Atsushi and Akutagawa are all straight. They should not be shipped with each other because they are straight.....

Dazai flirts with women and wants to commit a double suicide with a beautiful woman. Atsushi is very clearly set up to end up with Lucy. Akutagawa couldn't care less about romance as we see how dismissive he is with Higuchi. And Chuuya.......wears fashionable outfits and has a slutty waist, but we won't comment on that.

Dazai and Chuuya have a lot of queer subtext that anyone can see. Akutagawa and Atsushi are pointed out to complete each other and complement each other several times. These ships don't exist out of thin air.

Now there is nothing WRONG with anyone having the headcanon of any of these (or any other) characters to be straight, after all we are not given enough information about their sexualities. But by stating "Dazai is straight, he likes women" or "this ship doesn't make sense because they are not gay" not only does it imply that characters can't have other preferences but also that being straight is the default, which it isn't.

This is coming from a straight woman from a very conservative country where we don't have exposure to queer media. It took me a long time to stop being so heteronormative. I think assuming someone is straight until they prove to you or tell you directly is just as bad and as assuming someone is gay. I think we have come far along as a community to understand that it shouldn't be our first instinct to assume everything is heterosexual until we get some sort of proof or stamp of approval from its creator.

Asagiri isn't going to stand up in a stage in front of the world and say "yeah Dazai and Chuuya have gay feelings for eachother" because the manga is from Japan. If there were explicit queer characters then BSD would no longer get the label of being universal because of certain censorship laws. Even if it's getting more acceptable in Japan to show queer characters in manga and anime, BSD isn't a romance or slice of life story. It's a seinen, not a BL/GL. Besides, Asagiri shows little to no interest in romantic relationships in his story.

So by saying "______ character is straight because we don't have any other information proving otherwise " isn't a valid excuse to tell shippers not to ship certain characters, it's making it seem like heterosexuality is the default state of being.

That also doesn't mean you can say "Dazai is gay, don't ship him with women" because that's the same thing. If you think Dazai is gay/bi/pan/etc. then that's your opinion, pushing that on others only worsens the rep of skk shippers especially.

You have the right to like or dislike certain ships or have your own Headcanons. This is why even feminising certain characters also isn't as problematic as people call it. It's just a different take on a character (but that time people were correcting those who called Sigma a "he" instead of "they" was genuinely wrong). Headcanons of some random online stranger doesn't make anything canon. So if you find yourself around annoying people like that, just leave the conversation.

2. WHY SUBTEXT MATTERS

Subtext is really important when discussing media; in case of BSD whether it is the anime, manga, anthologies or LNs. BSD is not new to subtext, even from the start of the story there is a lot of queer subtext that people can figure out easily.

When we are introduced to Dazai and Chuuya's partnership in the first season, it's clear as day to see the dynamic and its underlying tension. We can see how close those two are that their relationship can't be explained just as simple partners turned enemies. Time and time again we get so much queer subtext between Skk's interactions. The entire 15 arc and well as Stormbringer shows us the bond and trust between the two as well as the intense amount of gay scenes. At this point I am sure Hoshikawa is a hardcore skk shipper. All of their official art is also gay (that could be queerbating though). Asagiri must know what the public thinks about Skk and still writes subtext about them. It makes sense why this would be a popular ship; it's not made out of thin air with no context (*ahem* Kousano *ahem*) but has actual roots and the proof to back it up too.

SSKK is a similar story, it's not my favourite but it has been growing on me ever since S5. Similar to skk, we get a lot of subtext and homoerotic moments between Aku and Atsushi. They are yin and yang. They are enemies that sought to kill eachother but still team up to fight together. Atsushi is literally the centre of Akutagawa's life since the beginning. Atsushi and Akutagawa grow together as characters and as different as they appear are similarly looking for one thing: validation and acceptance. Their relationship is so compelling in so many levels that it too makes sense why their ship is as popular as it is (especially regarding recent events in the story)

Ranpoe.....let's be real, those two got married a long time ago. They are the definition of "be gay, solve crimes". They are undeniably a cute ship regardless of whether it's one sided or not. Fyolai as well makes complete sense with the context behind Fyodor and Nikolai's relationship, while I also consider it quite one-sided as it's mostly Nikolai that is fascinated by Fyodor (and wants to kiss kill him) Fukumori isn't my cup of tea but it too has enough subtext to back it up, same with FukuFuku.

While I would love to talk about other ships, I wanted to show the reasoning behind the most popular pairings.

Personally, as a multishipper, it's very fun for me to have so many characters to examine and spend time obsessing over.

Now, there are straight ships that I like too as well as ships I don't ship for myself.

The reason I don't like Yosano and Ranpo together is because I see them in the same position as Kyouka and Atsushi. The scene of Ranpo recruiting Yosano (who worked with Mori) into the ADA parallels Atsushi saving Kyouka (who also worked with Mori). I consider them siblings and like how they are platonic instead of it being the typical "a boy and girl can't be besties". Another ship I love and cherish is AtsuLucy because it's so adorable, Lucy is my fav Guild member and her and Atsushi are "Girlboss and Malewife". I ship Tachihara with Gin, Higuchi and Gin as well as Kunikida with Yosano (surprisingly I don't find the appeal of Kunizai; though I still like that ship from time to time, just don't ship it actively). I prefer not to ship Sigma with anyone (he is still a baby to me)

So it's not that BSD doesn't have straight ships, when you make a majority male cast and have them be rivals or enemies, obviously people will ship m/m more. Especially if there is more subtext and tension behind the male characters and they have little to no interactions with women.

And I might get some heat for saying this:

It is okay for most of the BSD characters to be considered queer because if comp het is so normal in anime/manga then why can't the opposite be the case? We already have enough series with little to no representation, so why can't we have a bunch of queer characters?

3. TOXIC SHIPPERS AND THE FALL OF FANDOM CULTURE

I have been raving for the past two sections and defending the shipping community. But it isn't a conversation with nuance if I don't address the problem of a small group of people that take shipping too seriously. The reason why fandom itself gets a bad rep is because of shipping more often than not. I will admit, it's not all sunshine and rainbows when people argue about their fav ships. And a lot of the aforementioned ships are to a point, toxic. Yes, some shippers are annoying and ruin everyone else's fun. There are ships that don't make sense at all.

But that doesn't mean that a small part of people should represent others who are just having harmless fun and don't even believe their ships to ever become canon. Let's be real it's highly unlikely we will have any couples by the end of the show (the closest could be AtsuLucy). Sometimes people are too intense about ships and that goes for both antis and pros. Both of the extreme are toxic. And instead of shoving down our opinions down other people's throats, we should be celebrating the very story that brought us together in the first place.

Yeah it can be hard for those who don't like shipping at all to enjoy the story and have discussions. But we have to remember the roots of fandom culture start with shipping. It's always been the case and it's always been the most popular way to discuss one's favourite fictional work. From Sherlock to Genshin to boy bands to streamers, everything has been shipped and will always be. There is a reason why AO3 works so well.

4. SO WHAT?

The ships are what brought me to BSD in the first place. I wanted to explore the world of BSD because of its characters and their dynamics. And a lot of other people have gotten into this fandom for the exact same reason. While there are unflattering moments in our fandom, that doesn't mean it's not a place for people to come together and have some fun. Whether you ship or not. Whether you like fanfictions or not. We have to accept that there are a lot of pros to shipping too. It brings our ideas together, makes us feel giddy inside or tears our heart apart, it produces beautiful fanarts and fanfictions, it makes us analyse characters, it makes us look deeper into the story....and it makes us wait for what's next to come.

And I want nothing more than to be able to enjoy shipping without the guilt that comes with it.

Shipping isn't free from its flaws, but it is not defined only by its flaws. It might not be for everyone, but it is someone's everything. So even if you don't like it in particular, let's not spoil other people's fun. One's trash is another's treasure.

~Peace out 🕊️✌️

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a-stray-wretched-dog · 3 days

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idk how to explain this but every single soukoku is a mirror

#bungou stray dogs #bsd #bungou gay dogs #sskk #shin soukoku #skk #soukoku #bsd fukumori #fukumori

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idiototheinternet · 15 days

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Would y'all like me to write a BSD highschool AU? Ideas i'm thinking of using include

ooc mori who takes okay care of dazai and is just overall really stressed and tired with being a surgeon

chuuya immediately thinking of dazai as an asshole because dazai is wearing a turtleneck under a hoodie from late August to the beginning of the school year, as well as having a blond 'sister' (in chuuya's mind, people with blond siblings are no good)

Old man yaoi between Fukuzawa and Mori

Late night conversations hanging out on the roof

Big sister Kouyou

Dazai is obsessed with sonic and may or may not force his friends to make what is technically the snapcube fandubs

Ranpo gathers information for both the school paper and the forensics club

Oda isn't dead and he and Ango are both newfound restraints for dazai

Poe edits the school paper and plays(loses) against Ranpo at clue on fridays

Atsushi has a striped ragdoll cat that follows him around

HALL MONITOR KUNIKIDA

Akutagawa tries to kill Atsushi on a daily basis by now

Chuuya has a big fluffy dog named Daisy Bell

Dazai somehow found a male calico and named it pickles

Yosano runs the forensics club and gets the ada gang together

Karl is judging and is co-writing this fanfic with me

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cat10884 · 4 months

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CW: blood, slight gore(?) After Mori killed the old boss, his new subordinates did not trust him. He knew they wouldn't and knew they would try to assassinate him - which they did. One day, on the way back to the clinic, some mafia members were scattered around the ground with large wounds on their bodies. While Dazai stands there, stumped and confused, Mori makes a face that suggests he knows who it was.

#this is so bad but i spent too long on it not to post it #bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd fanart #bsd mori #bsd dazai #dazai bsd #fukumori #bsd fukumori #fukuzawa x mori

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shangdragonsthief · 6 months

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I'm back with my longest vid ever. It's a Soukoku vid to the song Tam Lin, and I had a lot of fun making it. Dazai is Janet, a spoiled rich girl that ignores all warnings and goes to the woods, there he meets Chuuya, Tam-Lin, a changeling whom is also a captive of the faerie queen, Fyodor. They fall in love, and Dazai must rescue Chuuya on Halloween or lose him forever.

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whyamihereat4am · 7 months

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more people should ship both one-sided fukufuku and fukumori at the same time. it would be very funny i think. fukuzawa has two hands, but neither of these freaks are getting to hold them thank you very much,

#this is purely for the comedy of fukuzawa being an unwilling freak magnet i personally prefer requited old man yaoi #bungou stray dogs #bungou gay dogs #bsd #bungo stray dogs #fukuzawa yukichi #mori ougai #fukuchi ouchi #fukufuku #fukumori #zenku soukoku #zskk

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sskk-manifesto · 1 month

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I really like how Mori/Fukuzawa being opposites as juxtaposition of modern/traditional, West/East in this episode is reproduced by showing Mori playing chess and Fukuzawa playing Go.

#Like *that's* the kind of opposites they are and it works very well visually.#ōgai mori #yukichi fukuzawa #fukumori #bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd s2 #bsdrewatch2023

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preludicrous · 2 months

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im not even a huge shipper but bsd makes it too fucking easy man. like soukoku are tragically divorced, ranpoe are married rivals, sskk has that i hate you but i secretly think you are the most admirable human in existence thing going on, rimlaine, suegiku bicker like an old married couple, the tragic old men yaoi of fukufuku, whatever the FUCK is going on with fukumori, the homoerotic murder and violence of fyolai, sigzai with how sigma is so done all the time, kunidazai with how kunikida is so done all the time, bramcraft with the otherworldly horrors. theres so much material idk

#bungou stray dogs #bsd #soukoku #shin soukoku #ranpoe #fyolai #suegiku #fukufuku #fukumori #rimlaine #sigzai #kunidazai #bramcraft

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poe-tat · 16 days

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Fukumori and shipping part 2

Results of the poll-

Mori: hey.. Hey fuku-

Fukuzawa: *grumbling* what

Mori: my ship is better than yours *sticks out tongue*

Fukuzawa: but my ship is healthier than yours

Mori: ...

Five feet away

Ranpo: why should any of that matter?

Dazai: I dunno

part 1

#bsd #bungou stray dogs #bsd incorrect quotes #incorrect bsd quotes #incorrect quotes #bsd skk #skk #bsd dazai #bsd osamu dazai #bsd ranpo edogawa #bsd ranpo #bsd ougai mori #bsd mori #bsd fukuzawa #bsd fukuzawa yukichi #bsd ranpoe #bsd fukumori #mori proves fukuzawa wrong #normalize this please

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bungoustraypups · 4 months

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asagiri what did you mean when you had mori say dazai reminded him of himself right after dazai talked extensively abt how mori shouldve let him kill himself after he took over the PM. what did you mean by that. why did you have a whole scene of mori miserably folding the gifted business permit into a paper airplane and tossing it off his desk after dazai left at the end of dark era. why did you have mori look so crushed when dazai said he burned the coat he gave him in the guild war arc. dont run away i just wanna talk

more importantly. asagiri why do fukuzawa and mori still have each others phone numbers saved. how frequently do they talk to each other. why was their first instinct upon seeing each other in dead apple to help the other defeat their ability bc they knew they couldnt do it on their own bc they knew they had what the other one was missing that was necessary to do it. more importantly how did they realize that so quickly. what did you mean when you let harukawa draw mori like that in the cannibalism scene where hes standing over fukuzawa about to kill him saying "what a shame" why does he look so devastated. asagiri. ASAGIRI OPEN UP

#bsd #bsd mori #bsd fukuzawa #fukumori #zenki soukoku #zskk #bungo stray dogs #bungou stray dogs #cio.txt #cio.org

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a-stray-wretched-dog · 6 days

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pregnant soukoku feels so right. pregnant shin soukoku feels so wrong. pregnant fukumori is canon.

#bungou stray dogs #bsd #bungou gay dogs #sskk #shin soukoku #skk #soukoku #fukumori #bsd fukumori

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