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howtobecomeadragon · 11 months

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just thought about father's day for everyone in stranger things and nearly keeled over in pain

#stranger things #except for lucas #charles sinclair we all love you and appreciate you #el has hopper but there's still going to be complicated feelings about brenner #it's all too much #lonnie #brenner #dustin's mysterious father figure #hopper going through his own stuff about sara #max and her dad in california #ted #ooooof #byler

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will80sbyers · 1 year

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#byler #max mayfield #will byers #mike wheeler #stranger things #jancy #Brenner

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greenfiend · 2 months

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Puppet master

Determinism | Free will

#stranger things art #vecna stranger things #Vecna #vecna/henry/one #vecna/henry/001 #martin brenner #dr Brenner #Brenner #stranger things

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whatislife1babydonthurtme · 2 years

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WTF DOES THIS MEAN?? WHY DOES WILL RECOGNIZE BRENNER MORE VIVIDLY THAN MIKE DOES????

HOW DOES HE RECOGNIZE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE??

WHY DOES IT SEND A CHILL DOWN HIS SPINE??????

Edit: Yeah the scripts are fake but I'm gonna keep this post up out of spite lol.

#stranger things #will byers #byler #brenner #stranger things script #stranger things season 4 #mike wheeler #byeler #my post

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ilikeshinyrocksandcrime · 1 year

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choose wisely

#I ran out of options #Byler #< target audience as usual #Stranger Things #billy hargrove #barb holland #alexei romanov #eddie munson #Chrissy #Bob #Fred #Patrick #Brenner #Yes I'm tagging all of them

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sapphicslut777 · 4 months

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so idk if this is a running theory, but i’ve never seen this mentioned in the stranger things sphere…

i think that henry/vecna/one is the biological father of all of the children in hawkins lab.

from what i understand, a lot of time went by after henry was captured by doctor brenner. as we are currently in 1986 with the start of the end of the world 😅 and with ‘83 being the year when will went missing (the day in which the upside down is stuck)… then what happened between 1959 (henry’s capture) and 1979 (in hawkins lab, when we clearly see children/experiments 2-12 (or 17??) have been acquired somehow)???

in the ‘79 hawkins lab we see many numbered children with abilities being taken care of by an extensive staff, including one, who’s powers have been kept at bay by the soteria doctor brenner implanted in his neck. by this time 20 yrs have passed and surely henry is in his 30s by now. the fact that we didn’t see all of that missing time, makes me think it’s important.

i know that it’s been explained in the papers, and understood by becky (terry ives’ sister) as well as hopper, that brenner was using lsd and shit like mk ultra to create/obtain people with powers. but those never included experiments on children. the newspaper described adults with the drug experiments. the way that becky describes terry’s experience makes us think that she was the only one this happened to… “she didn’t know she was pregnant at the time” she says 😳

it is also unclear how or when henry got his psychic abilities. and doctor brenner (who has been studying henry since he was a child—under the care of his own parents) has always wanted to not only study, but replicate, henry’s powers… so if he had done all of the experimenting that he could on one child and couldn’t determine how to recreate the results,,, i don’t think it would be above brenner to craft an entirely detailed plan on how to breed the children himself, using henry’s genetic material to get the powers.

because in ‘79 the oldest child (two) seems to be about 14-16 years old, this would make him born in about ‘63-‘65 (henry turned 18 in ‘65)… i just think brenner is the type to create a whole operation. we’ve seen the way that he has his lab staffed in ‘83 and even in ‘86 (with NINA). he is neat and orderly and checks all of the boxes and possibilities. i think if he had years of planning he could definitely come up with a system of not being caught.

the lsd experimentation was probably an entire ruse to acquire people (women) who would want to volunteer. these people (women) who weren’t afraid to take drugs or be closely monitored or experimented on… fuck in his own sick and twisted mind he probably saw it as them consenting???

all i’m saying is, when we see the clips of eleven (jane) being taken from terry, it’s brenner himself. he’s running the whole operation. and when we see the lab in ‘79 there are tens of kids there (all in varying and descending ages). which makes me think that he takes a baby, waits a little bit, then pops in another one when the time is right 😨🫢😬

all i’m saying is,,,, it would make a lot of sense that brenner would want to use the soteria on henry and have him help with the training and the monitoring of the other children’s abilities (who knows henry’s powers better than himself??). it would make sense as to why one thought he had “the right” to destroy all of (his and) brenner’s work. their experiments. their children. this would explain why henry seems to latch onto eleven so easily, letting her know how he harnesses his power (something that would be very personal to him). it would make sense why eleven and brenner are the only ones left in the lab (besides staff) in ‘83. why brenner is so desperately using el to get to the upside down and find henry. why wouldn’t brenner make more experiments? more children??

all!! i’m!!! saying!!!! is!!!!!!!!! it would make the whole “papa” and daddy issues arc a Hell of A Lot Stronger, if henry was watching these (his) children and waiting for the right one (eleven/jane) to trust to carry down the family legacy and the powers. henry talks to young el like “i wanted us to join forces”… what if he sees her as his true daughter??? he sees that she’s powerful enough to carry out his escape plan. and it’s obvious that he’s so betrayed by eleven when she rejects his offer and banishes him. he wants to rebuild the entire world with her for fucks sake!!! talk about some toxic daddy-daughter shit!!

in henry’s monologue to el in the lab in ‘79 he says “papa wanted to recreate me.. he started a program. and soon, others were born. you were born. and i’m so glad you were, eleven.” this theory would also explain the reason he thinks the children he killed are not dead. he claims that they’re still with him. he points to his mind. “in here”.

he also says “to your papa, you are nothing but a lab rat, something to be tamed.. but the opposite is true”. he explains that eleven is better than “they are” (normal humans i suppose?? or simply everyone else??). he claims that she is superior… why? bc he is superior. henry thinks he is the greatest and most powerful, all-knowing being in the universe. and to have a daughter to watch over, that posses the same ultimate power and can finally understand him… i think that’s all henry’s ever wanted.. he’s always felt disconnected and ostracized by his family. and even his “second family” (papa and the other children). but eleven reminds him of himself. he says so throughout the entire 4th season.

this daddy-daughter relationship between henry/one and jane/eleven would also hit hard for el’s storyline, which has been riddled with father figures this whole time…. brenner was “papa”, hopper was next (also taken away from her by the upside down/vecna/henry/one), then brenner again, and even doctor owens for a time. for her to then have to come to terms with henry being her biological father would be the final evil cherry on top of this season finale. 🍨🍒

all throughout the series, we’ve been being tossed back and forth between these psychic/supernatural/other-worldly things being the villain AND humans and their inherently twisted complications and multitudes being the villain. i wouldn’t be surprised if the ending, and all that’s revealed in season 5, was to wrap all of that up into a double whammy bow. of like,,, yea isnt it fucked up that humans and their desires made these decisions to create these things, these “monsters”, these powerful beings…

but the human brain is the biggest monster of them all. we’re all so fucked up. and we always have been. and we always will be.

but!! the power of fucked up can always be faught with the power of love and happiness and cherishing others and actually caring for one another….

so humanness has a cure?

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goodgrammaritan · 6 days

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"You two," said the paladin slowly, "have a very odd relationship."

"Oh, come on, if your friends aren't willing to strangle you, what kind of friends are they?" asked Brenner.

The Clockwork Boys by T. Kingfisher

#t kingfisher #the clockwork boys #book quotes #brenner #slate

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castleclerics · 9 months

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so u know how el closes her eyes her to focus and “remember” her interaction with one and they rly highlight the fact that her eyes are closed while remembering ?

well can somebody please explain to me why RIGHT AFTER, brenner walks in and does the same fucking thing ???

like why does he just. close his eyes? the shot ends on his eyes closed which is an awkward ass shot and would be 100% intentional bc it’s not an editing mistake look how smoothly the rest of anything in this show goes like 😭😭. wtf is he doing……

#this has been bothering me for soso long i hate this #project nina #the nina project #martin brenner #el hopper #stranger things #brenner

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beaulesbian · 2 years

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such brilliant acting from noah, because while rewatching 4x8 some time ago i though that the focus on will was different than the focus on mike, but i didn’t realize he would actually know brenner.

and then when you read this scene it’s all there in the acting. and we never get another look at will’s face until they’re back in the van with el, and they’re focusing on different things again.

#stranger things #stranger things script #will byers #brenner #spoilers #stranger things spoilers #st spoilers #mine #i have more.. other thoughts and theories but i will leave it at that for now #byler #willel

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kittyphoenix12-xx · 2 years

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i’ve figured it out btw

billy antis don’t know how to think for themselves. the duffer brother call billy their ‘human villain’ and he is the only one to be called so, not brenner not henry, billy.

and it’s actually stupid that billy is their villain. brenner is a manipulative, child abuser (yes he is, to all those people who seem to think he was a good papa) and henry/vecna murdered a bunch of children. but sure, billy’s implied racism and violent tendencies mean he can’t be redeemed.

and the other reason is that brenner/henry are connected to the upside down/scifi aspect immediately, meaning people are viewing them in a scifi/fantasy context (like a lot people point out, the same context that cause people to forgive anakin/loki) but billy isn’t - he’s the human antagonist

and that’s all they’ll ever see

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jancysmixtape · 11 months

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If you’re still making Mike and Brenner comparisons, in the year 2023, you need to seek genuine help. Also, don’t have Mike in any of your ships if you’re comparing him to a grown abuser. <3

#stranger things #el hopper #Mike wheeler #mileven #Brenner #this fandom is truly insane

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stitched-mouth · 7 months

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Rewatching Stranger Things S1 and… I’m starting think I might be a simp for Matthew Modine.

Particularly as Dr Brenner. My 12 year old self, who hated Brenner, would be so disappointed.

Sorry but there’s just something about dangerous well dressed old men that do something to me for some reason.

#stitched #stitched talks #stitched writes #netflix #stranger things #dr brenner #dr martin brenner #brenner #martin brenner #matthew modine #st #st season 1 #stranger things season 1

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will80sbyers · 6 months

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New pictures from the play!! So Alice exists lmaoo

Brenner being the piece of shit he is as always

Lonnie and Joyce are already together??

#the first shadow #stranger things #st the first shadow #henry creel #alice creel #brenner #joyce byers #lonnie byers #st on stage #bob newby #patty newby

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queerxqueen · 2 years

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where in the script does it say Will recognizes Dr. Brenner? I've been looking for it but I can't seem to find it. thank you so much for this btw!! it must be very overwhelming, so we appreciate it :)

I hadn't posted that part myself, just reblogged it, but here's the full page

#st4 scripts #will byers #brenner

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messrsbyler · 1 year

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el not wanting the door closed in s1 because of the trauma brenner gave her and then keeping it three inches open at all times in s4 because she had hope her hopper (her dad) would return. poetic ✨

#el hopper #stranger things #brenner #jim hopper

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yurtletheturtlehenderson · 8 months

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*Disclaimer: these are just some things I personally haven't seen talked about a whole lot, off the top of my head*

Honorable Mention: the big spooky mind flayer's canon name is henry. that big scary cloud monster had a name and it's motherfucking henry.

Ex: "He [Henry] likes it cold"

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