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kinfort · 4 months
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blu sniper moodboard with books, bullets, owls, and an introvert theme for anon
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blubushie · 11 months
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ABOUT ME
READ THIS BEFORE YOU SEND ASKS/INTERACT. ASK BLU ANYTHING DAY (ABAD) is on the first full weekend of every month!
MINORS: Block the "#blu lewd" tag OR I WILL BLOCK YOU and do not DM me unless it's to ask to join Blucord. This goes ESPECIALLY if you're 16 or under. Adults on the internet are not your friends, and I am not comfortable speaking with you privately without a third party present.
G'day fellas! You can call me Blu, and I can be invoked like some Lovecraftian horror by mentioning Sniper in the TF2 tags. King of Sniper Lore (and Australia), Messiah of Bludaism, also known as the "Sheepshagging Roorooting Horsehumping Mountainfucking Melonpiping 13x-Divorced Breastmaster Hitman Inenrt Dingoboy Piss Cheese Jorts Bludysseus Blu'nt Bushgod Sniper Blog" despite not being a Sniper blog (and not actually shagging a sheep or rooting a roo or being married to start with or caring all that much for cannabis, I'm a psychedelics bloke). I'm just Like This.
Been told I'm the "Sniper kin of all Sniper kins." Not sure what a kin is these days but from what I've heard I'm content with not knowing.
This is my only blog. I have three sideblogs. One is @blu-doods, where I post my shitty stick figure art for laughs, and the other two are @art-reblugs, where I reblog art on (I reblog art here too, but the pickings are far more slim) and @post-reblugs (same as art but for text posts).
Again, not a Sniper roleplay blog. That said feel free to call me Sniper as a joke because I do very much enjoy it. Just keep in mind that I am my own person and not a fictional character. There's a real person behind the screen.
Sometimes I go on tangents and start infodumping. You can find the masterlist here. Also please read my DNI list and check out my pronouns page (I spent so much time on it).
My ask box is always open to whatever you want to say. Questions, comments, infodumping, or whatever else comes to mind. I particularly enjoy things relating to TF2, astronomy, nature, classic cars, and weapons. :]
If you find a weird animal or plant and want to know what it is, send me a picture with the location and there's a fair chance I can ID it! ("Location" doesn't need to be city, just state or general region!)
If you're looking to do art or something of me, please see this post for a guide to what I look like and this post for my rules on what is and isn't acceptable!
We now have a Discord server! If you want to join just DM me :]
My avatar was done by the incredibly talented @grumpygrumblet!
SOME INFO ABOUT ME
I have autism, selective mutism, and some other issues that aren't really important. Point is that sometimes it can be hard for me to talk or properly put my thoughts into words. This makes me come across as cold sometimes. I'm not good at communicating with words and I'm better at expressing it in person where I can rely more on touch. I apologise if I seem rude because I'm not trying to be. Let me know and I'll try to articulate what I mean to say in a gentler way.
I'm 23.
Bushstraight. AMAB transmasc. Weird bloke.
I grew up in Alice Springs and spend most of my time in the NT. On the first Friday of the month there's a good chance you can find me at the Daly Waters Pub. CU in the NT! (Not now though because I'm stuck in America for the foreseeable future. Oops. Try me again in 2025!)
I hunt professionally for pest control. Usually it's invasive animals like pigs, cats, or feral dogs. I'm also licenced to occasionally deal with nuisance native wildlife like crocodiles, but aside from assisting in relocation efforts I've yet to be called out for a crocodile. I'm alright with this—I really don't want to shoot a crocodile.
I also hunt to feed myself and my dog. Her name is Misty and she's an Australian Shepherd/Golden Retriever mix. You can see her here or by checking out my "mistyposting" tag.
I used to participate in kangaroo culls and by law I have to shoot them in the head so if you ever want to know what it's like to pop skulls, reckon you can ask me. Also on the kangaroo thing: if you're Australian and from 2020-2021 ate kangaroo or bought kangaroo dog food or leather, there's a chance I'm the one what got it to you.
I'm a bushie. This means I'm a survivalist who lives out in the bush. I technically live in a van (ute + camper in the tray) but if there's good weather I'm usually sleeping outside unless it's an area with a lot of dingos (they don't usually bother people but I'm not going to take risks with my dog). I have no permanent residence and I move from place to place for work. Occasionally I have to go into cities for work (I'm looking at you, M*lbourne) but these are thankfully rare occasions and only when I'm strapped for cash.
Sometimes while clearing a squatter's land I'll find Psilocybe mushrooms and take them back home and get high when I'm done working. It makes for an interesting experience and my favourite thing to do is lay on the top of my van and watch the stars for a while.
I have a mullet and I am awful proud of it. It's easy upkeep since I can cut it using the mirror of my van.
I've drank my own piss on more than one occasion. The first time was because I was dying of dehydration out in the bush and it kept me alive for 2 days until I found water. The second time was for science. Certified Piss Kink Guy. (Editor's note: I do not in fact have a piss kink.)
I have infinitely large balls.
I am a bogan. I am proud of that too. Viva la boganism.
I am Ameristralian. I was born in the US and came to Australia when I was 2 years old—both of my parents are American but my parents lived in Australia for work. I grew up in Australia but when my parents split Dad went back home to California to buy back my grandfather's station and I spent most of my high school years in California (years 10-12) and lost my accent. I now live in Australia with a very thick American accent so I get the "lost tourist" spiel a lot and I reckon I'm never going to stop having to prove I'm Australian. It's gotten me into pub fights before and will continue to do so. I had a stroke in 2023 and now have my Aussie accent back LMAO
I've been told I'm "Sniper IRL." (Cheers, bloke I met in a Sydney pub, for getting me into TF2 by telling me this.)
I fucking love crocodiles to a possibly dangerous degree. Technically I love everything nature and especially animals, but crocodiles are just something special to me. I blame Steve Irwin and the fact my favourite thing to do as a nipper was go up to Darwin with Mum during the dry season and go croc spotting.
I like TF2, nature (particularly plants and animals), astronomy, and history. My special interest is sniping. I also love science and medicine. PLEASE ASK ME ABOUT THESE THINGS BECAUSE I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THEM.
I swear a lot. I will not apologise for it. Fight me, cunt.
Please ask me about the shit I've seen out in the bush. I have so many stories. Actually, just ask me anything. Just talk to me in general, please. I need it.
I like knives (penchant for Bowie knives and machetes), firearms (penchant for antique bolt-actions), and old cars. I think pre-1970 Land Rovers are pretty spiffy. I can alternatively be invoked by incorrectly stating what model of Land Rover Sniper drives. It's a bloody 1965 Series IIA!
DO NOT ATTEMPT ANY OF THE SHIT YOU SEE ME DO ON THIS BLOG. I AM A PROFESSIONAL AT WHAT I DO—ATTEMPTING TO REPLICATE IT IS LIKELY TO RESULT IN SERIOUS HARM AND/OR DEATH. DO NOT GO INTO THE OUTBACK UNLESS YOU ARE WITH A GROUP AND HAVE AN EXPERIENCED GUIDE WITH YOU.
If you wanna learn the rest of the lore, you'd best delve the blog. ;]
I can also be found on AO3 also under Blubushie.
A GUIDE TO MY TAGS
IMPORTANT BLOCK TAGS
blu lewd: Horny asks and reblogs of suggestive art. I'm making a tag for this since I've been getting so many asks from thirsty anons (I love you, thirsty anons). MINORS: BLOCK THIS TAG OR I WILL BLOCK YOU.
haemocyanin: Usually reblogged gore art (blood is not included in gore, I'm talking viscera). Also includes discussion of gory topics. THIS TAG IS STRICTLY GORE. Please block this tag if that makes you uncomfortable.
blu slew: Discussion of hunting. May contains photos from hunting. This includes animal death/animal gore, so anyone who is uncomfortable with seeing this PLEASE BLOCK THIS TAG.
blu a fuse: Rants/sad hours/personal journals. Basically me screaming into the void. May include discussions of trauma so if that bothers you please block this tag.
blu jarate: Anything that mentions piss in referral to urine because it's brought up a lot on this blog (not in a kink way, just in general). Block this tag if piss makes you uncomfortable.
blu boos: A personal medical journal of sorts. Block this tag if talk of injuries disturbs you.
Postbin: Hate asks. Will probably include transphobia or homophobia or intersexism because people pick on the easiest things ay? Block if you don't want to see people clowning on me.
GENERAL TAGS
💙: Random thoughts or stuff from me. No worries, I don't ramble often. Also contains reblogs of things I just Vibe With that don't fit any of my other tags. Formerly #bluposting
blu news: Updates on my life. This may include failsafes.
blu zoo: Discussions of animals and plants. May contain pictures of things I see on my adventures!
blu whos: Answered asks. Please send me asks or talk to me in literally any way as I often spend weeks without even seeing another human out in the bush and let me tell you it is NOT good for one's state of mind. I may not like people but humans are social animals and it's a terrible Catch-22. Ask me about my work or life or my fic or about TF2 lore or Sniper or literally anything please.
abad: Discussions or asks from Ask Blu Anything Day, a monthly... Event? Where some of my ask rules are suspended. ABAD is your licence to go nuts in my ask box, and the rule of ABAD is that I have to answer everything honestly.
blu drew: My sketches. I don't do digital art so all of it is traditional and usually of varying quality. It's typically animals or plants I see out in the bush.
blu bushie: My adventures in the wilderness.
🍄🍄🍄: Contains discussions of drugs.
🍄: Triposting! These are trip reports from the times I get high on various different drugs, but usually mushrooms. Also contains any posts I reblog or make while under the influence of drugs. (Formerly #blu flew)
🍺🍺🍺: Contains discussions of alcohol.
🍺: Drunkposting! Contains any posts I make while under the influence of alcohol.
learnin the blus: Random thoughts/rambles regarding my fic.
blu hoohs: NOT MY ART. Just stuff I've REALLY liked and reblogged. My own art is never tagged with this.
blus clues: Me speculating on headcanons and lore, usually about TF2. I love lore speculation.
sniperposting: Shit specifically about Sniper since I seem to talk about him so much. Also things from my life that Sniper would also probably do.
blu pew: Weapons, mostly firearms and knives.
bushman: Reblogs relating to survivalism, bushcraft, hunting, fishing, nature, and the land. Also includes reblogs of things related to these.
stockman: Discussing my former job as a stockman.
true blu: Things specifically relating to Australia. Usually cultural things.
code blu: Things relating to medicine. This especially applies to bushmedicine.
blursed: Reblogged shit that I think is cursed. Usually text posts, sometimes images.
blusome: Just uplifting things I see and reblog. Everybody needs some added light every now and then.
blu spew: Funny things. Titled for me spewing out my coffee in the morning when I see them.
blu polls: My polls.
blu views: The VERY rare occasions I discuss politics. Most of this is either about firearms or rarely nature conservation.
mistyposting: Posts relating strictly to Misty.
moonyposting: Anything relating to Mundy, my emu. On this blog he's referred to as "Moony" so as not to have him confused with Mundy from my fic (or canon Mundy).
blu tunes: Anything relating to music.
blu chew: Anything relating to food.
ford blu: Anything relating to cars.
blu id: Posts where people ask me to identify animals and plants.
blu marbled jack: Anything relating to Jack. This is because I once saw him eat an entire block of cheese.
ask game: Ask games I find.
answered asks: Answers to things I've asked.
blubook: Posts relating to literature. It's a pun about the Australian boobook, a type of owl. Get it? Because owls are smart? And it's reading? Nevermind.
fanart: Art specifically of me because I had one person do it (cheers Lilac) and now I'm making a tag of it just in case other people do more.
blucord: Discussing things that go down in the Discord server.
blu muse: Poetry I write (because apparently I'm doing that again).
blu misc: Anything that doesn't fit into the rest of these tags.
blu queue: Queued posts.
blu reviews: Submitted posts.
bluroarer: Things I'm tagged in.
smoke signals: Back-and-forth discussions in reblogs.
dozposting: Posts about my lovely lady, @eyes-like-iron-fangs-of-rust
horseposting: Me talking about horses. I fucking love horses.
dream journal: Where I log my dreams.
eminence: Me infodumping about DND/my DND character Redd (cuz Redd + Blu = eminence purple).
PMP: Info relating to my job as a pest management professional.
matildaposting: Me discussing my late 70s Dreamer camper or other campers.
🌌: Wereshitposting—late-night blogging I get up to when the world is quiet and I can't sleep.
Also I'm writing a Speedingbullet fic on AO3 because it's boring out here and I have brainrot so go read that I guess, cheers. Chapter 10 is my magnum opus.
Here's the link to the original F/M version of the fic, and here's the link to the M/M edited version of the fic. The M/M version isn't as good and there may be pronoun errors here and there because the F/M is my primary focus and how the fic is originally written. The M/M version is also discontinued at Chapter 7 as I couldn't work Jesse's backstory properly into Jake. Sorry, folks.
If you're looking to do fanart or something I have a reference for Jesse and Suki. I also have an appearance detail for the rest of BLU team. (If you do fanart of Jesse and Mundy together I will love you forever and ever.)
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blue-shiver13 · 8 months
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So I made a tf2 roleplay discord server, if anyone wants they can join!
This server is a RED team centric tf2 roleplay server. This servers application process is a little harsh but that’s because we’re only looking for specific people for roleplay. We are currently looking for people to roleplay the following characters: Scout (blu), Soldier (blu), Pyro (blu), Demoman (red/blu), Engineer (red/blu), Sniper (red/blu), Spy (red/blu), and Miss Pauling
Basic Server DNI Racists, homophobes, transphobes, terfs, radqueer/radinclus, neonazis, nazis, conservatives, asian fetishizers, anti-anti, pedophiles, incest and supporters, MAPs and supporters, proshippers, pro-abuse, pro-ana, endogenic systems and supporters, kins, irls, delusional attachments, anti-furry, rcta/ecta, transracials, nontraumagenic systems
Specific Server DNI People who dont ship the following: Heavy x Medic, Spy x Scouts Mom, Scout x Pauling, Soldier x Zhanna People who ship ANYTHING besides the following: Heavy x Medic, Spy x Scouts Mom, Scout x Pauling, Soldier x Zhanna, Scout x Pauling x Fried Chicken Tramp People with the following headcanons: all characters besides Yana are transgender, Miss Pauling is lesbian, Spy or Scout is bi/gay, Spy is feminine, Heavy has a beard
Dm me for the invite
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fictionkinfessions · 8 months
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@ my last ask
Fuck it, man. Interest check for a Valve kins server, lmao.
- BLU Sniper
party note: If anyone is interested, please reblog, like, or reply to this post! No further ask responses will be posted for this conversation so that no one’s message is missed! Thank you!
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personally im big on scout4scout because i kin blu scout and think red scout is cute as hell
SOOOO REAL I'm obviously thee Sniper tf2 in real life guy but like if yall keep drawing that autopsy scar I'm gonna act up
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pridewishes · 2 years
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tf2 for the headcanon thing? doubt you know though lol
we used to have a strong fixation on tf2 in middle school actually and kin from it as well. since it's been a while since we read the comics we won't differentiate between red / blu in comics for now, just the basics, as in the yt video versions
scout - trans masc bi (he/him)
soldier - gay (he/him)
pyro - nonbinary / agender ace bi (or lesbian)
demoman - nonbinary bisexual (he/they)
heavy - trans masc gay (he/him)
engineer - trans gay (he/she/they)
medic - nonbinary aromantic gay (he/she/they/it)
sniper - nonbinary gay (he/they)
spy - genderfluid bisexual (any)
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radiotorn · 2 years
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hey bestie this is definitely not tori please do the tf2 ask meme odds if you are okay with that pleas thx ^_^ *frolicks away*
ANSWERING THIS SOOOO LATE but i want it OUUTT!! so here we GO
1- Who are your favorite tf2 content creators? hmhmhmmmmm….in terms of entertainment videos im sorta looking for someone but i like Kostamoinen, Winglet, STBlackST, CrazyScoutFIN, ShorK, Jesse Baumgartner & plus ive heard good things about Hoovy Tube but donnt know yet…..in terms of art…well…check my fav tag 😏 and also all my buddies and pals they're correct and right whenever they say things about thhe video game
3- Who is your favorite side character? I think Miss Pauling isn't a side character soo….i really like Heavy's family they r very awesome mode….i also have a soft spot for Olivia Mann i think too much about her and then i cry (yes…u can ask if u would like to…giggle) or MAGGIE GASP…i love mags....im going to give her the world and then more
5- Who are your LEAST favorite characters? hmmmmmm….ik ive said it before but i guess cheavy huh. OR classic soldier and scout i do not like them (the classic ones that come with cheavy ofc)
7- How did you find out about tf2? answered in the last ask for these, but from a ytp audio used in a flipnote if u rlly want it lmk
9- How long have you been in the fandom? funny enough i have the exact date bc i keep a journal. May 2nd 2021 is when i played the game for the first time so it started then
11- Favorite voice line? a LOT of them are engies lines again bc. well. like "Start prayin', boy!", "im wolverine-mean, you son of a bitch", and "you look a mite tongue-tied, son" they. he. im ok. im ok. im alright
13- What’s your favorite thing about the fandom? i stay within my small bubble most of the time, but i do technically have fandom to thank for introducing me to some really awesome people and mutuals :] so that i suppose! also the savetf2 tag is really really awesome
15- Do you have a NOTP? if so then what? scoutpauling and spyscout, to the max. one is incxst and the other is just. not right lol both are nem jó for me. the majority of them are either nice or just not my cup of tea
17- An unpopular opinion you have? hmm….yes! not in the terms of ppl not agreeing but just bc it hasnt been talked about but Maggie is Hungarian! she is to me and thats it ok. like theres more backing it up but its burried under a personal hc that is intertwined with an oc so.shrugs. shes hungarian to me even outside of self indulgence
19- RED or BLU? red :] i like the look of red bases more than the blu ones
21- What is your favorite piece from the tf2 OST? ROBOTS ROBOTS TO THE.MAX I LOVE. THIS SONG SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! I LOVE THAT!!! I OLOVE IT!!! it makes me feel so awesome
23- Who do you main? i kinda find myself maining someone different every once in awhile, but i'm mostly a demo or scout main! i try to at least know how to play every class a little (except spy. not yet i'm not ready)
25- What is your favorite ‘Meet the…’ video? meet the pyro i love that one…my favey….revolutionary for the time….
27- Which character would you get along the best with? OH HELL uhh hm hmmm hurm looks inside myself…realistically? probably scout or engie…but why must i choose…when we could all be friends….i have ten hands
29- Is there a character you loved at first but now you hate? nope! my love has only grown since i got into this game i find something to love in all the characters and those who i didnt like i still dont fuck with
31- Which character is overrated? i mean, i feel like scout obvs is but i also really like scout but ppl dont get him. they dont get it right u gotta get him right. i feel like that can be the case with a lot of overrated chars......spice it up with the portrayals and then it wont taste so bad even if theyre still overrated
33- Which character do you relate to most? (or as the cool kids say, “kin”) yknwo im not just saying this but i think a good blend of engie and sniper (moreso engie maybe) with like. seasoned with some pyro . like its the nonchalance with boiling autism rage and also. sparkle on. does that make sense
35- Best character design? FUUUCCKKKK U CANT ASK THATTTTT!!!….thats something i think that like. did something to me. like. getting into tf2 shaped my entire taste and outlook in a way. like. older ppl. older ppl swag is what i learned and all of them r so distinct and have their own silhouettes and outfits and AHGHGHHH its literally art to me….but ig if i HAD to choose its a tie btween heavy and demo
37- What is your favorite update? ok i have to make it clear i wasnt into the game for the time of the major updates but i think the very start of scream fortress..or ig the haunted hallowe'en special…is my favorite because i LOOVEEE scream fortress i love the halloween maps i love the season!!! I LOVE HELLTOWER MY DEAREST!!!!! I LOVE THE HALLOWEEN SEASON!!!!!! AND AUTUMN!!! …but other than that i think love and war is another aswesome one
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Masculine Fashion for Blu Sniper from Team Fortress 2 (anon)
Fedora: $16.99 It’s made out of breathable material. 
Owl Necklace: $13.00 It’s nickel free, by the way. 
Grey Hoodie Vest: $17.99, in XL. I have a blue version of this concept and I love it! 
Ripped Sweater: $39.99 It looks super cozy. 
Cargo Vest: $48.93 It’s made from nylon canvas and fleece, so it shouldn’t feel like denim at all. 
Blue Bandana: $5.35 Made from %100 cotton. 
Sunglasses: $9.99 These are very similar to the ones he wears in my opinion. 
Aqua Button-Up: $19.99 You could roll the sleeves up and wear it over a white t-shirt. 
Real Motorcycle Gloves: $24.00 These gloves are high quality and made for actually riding motorcycles. Water resistant leather. 
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“Boom. Headshot.”
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spygender · 4 years
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might fuck around and kin blu sniper
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mikiruma · 5 years
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more self insert stuff
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i think no matter what class he ends up becoming, he’ll still have a shit mullet.
oh one hand i want him to be a sniper bc sniper main, on the other i could go full self indulgence and make him engie bc KIN, but also literally a bunch of traits i gave him would make him a really good spy and as much as it pains me to say it...i really wanna draw THAT now
anyway when i originally made him he was just a scrappy kid (used VERY Loosely hes a Young Adult) who SOMEHOW wriggled his way into red territory, but i was thinking “what if he got older and actually got hired by tf industries?” not only is it a fun exercise to try and draw him way older + in the styles of other classes, but now thats making me think “what WOULD red & blu look like in the 90s?” and while the answer is hopefully Dissolved my heart says cowboy boots sniper. i want the other mercs to rest
also thinking in general the menace he could possibly be after knowing as much as he does from his younger years. admin sure wouldnt be his friend! would it matter though? probs not though. and yes in this instance shes still alive bc of course she is.
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✧・゚: *✧・゚:*  M O D  B L U  *:・゚✧*:・゚✧
M A I N  B L O G
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  She/Her, They/Them pronouns! Demi-Girl, Lesbian pride!
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  15 
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Australian
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Closet solitary witch
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Really really likes birds, creepy true story compliations and useless world war facts
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Medic/Sniper kin
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Medic main with an unadulterated hatred for Spys
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Dating Mod RED
✧・゚: *✧・゚:*  M O D  R E D  *:・゚✧*:・゚✧
M A I N  B L O G
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙   She/Her, They/Them pronouns
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Ace! Homoromantic!
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  16
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Goth girlfriend
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Furry TM
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙   Obligated spy kin, probably sniper kin, secretly medic kin
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  cursed kirby with legs
•̩̩͙✩•̩̩͙  Very much definitely legally married to Mod BLU
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pyrouk-blog · 7 years
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Right now, I’m looking for RED Engie (familiar with letting Pyro sleep in your room + making a cot/sleeping area for him especially) and RED Sniper (familiar with saving Pyro from drowning + seeing his face/body) so if you are those people or remember those things happening (or even if you know somebody that does!!) please send me a message. I really want to meet them again. (I'm not 100% sure if I've found my blu engie yet,,,, but if you remember being friendly with me during matches, especially during MvM, shoot me a message!!)
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fictionkinfessions · 1 year
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TF2 fictives/kins my beloved! We're all so cool actually.
- BLU Sniper (TF2)
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nohmercy · 6 years
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spy?
AAAAH!! YES
How I feel about this character: kin mood id synpath copinglink. i hate him.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: heavy > spy > soldier > demo > sniper > medic > engie 
My non-romantic OTP for this character: pauling and spy! wlwmlm solidarity!! 
My unpopular opinion about this character: I HAVE MANY. AS FOLLOWS: 
BLU SPY IS A BOTTOM, RED IS A TOP/VERSE
HAS FAT ASS ENERGY 
NOT BALD
NOT CIS, NOR HET
ADHD KING
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: please confirm hes nmot fucking bald
THANK YOU MAX!! I LOVE U :-]
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findmykin · 6 years
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i'm RED sniper from team fortress 2 and i'm looking for specifically RED demoman! honestly though i'll dm /any/ tf2 kin that interacts with this post because i miss everyone (i miss demo the most tho ngl) !! even yall BLUs are valid! i'm 110% okay with RED and BLU sniper doubles. i have other tf2 kins just to tell yall if you aren't comfy with doubles, but you can ask about those if i message you. i'm 14 and would prefer to interact w other minors!!!!!!
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