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My thoughts on Yellowjackets Season 1

Major spoilers for season one under the cut. Also, long

Okay I'm going to break this up into parts because I'm mentally ill and neurodivergent, need I say more?

Stuff I predicted.

First and foremost, I fucking called it that Coach Ben was gay. I was watching it with my cousins and I announced to the room: "The coach guy is gay, you can quote me on that!" Just for the record, my gaydar is very good.

Jackie's death was extremely sad, but I knew the second hallucination!Shauna let her inside. There's no way she would forgive her or be forgiven that fast, teenage girls are terrifying.

Predictions for the future:

They are 100% going to eat Jackie. Nuff Said.

Javi is dead. If not now, then soon.

There is a 0% chance that Shauna's baby is going to survive. Giving birth is dangerous enough on its own. But a teenager giving birth, in the woods, with no medication, no food, no doctors, under absolutely horrifying mental circumstances. There's no way in hell.

For this prediction, it must be known that I know absolutely nothing about lighters. But during the scene where Jackie was trying to light the fire before she died, I noticed that she was having trouble with the lighter. This could have been because she was shivering, or to further drive home the fact that she isn't good at "outdoorsy" stuff, but lighters do run on a small amount of fuel. And if that runs you can no longer use the lighter, it is also unlikely the lighters were full when they got them (I'm assuming they got them from the cabin, as it would be weird for a teenager to bring a lighter to a soccer game) So if the lighters run out or stop working, will they run out of fuel?

And, we have to talk about my least favourite arc of all time, Misty and the Coach. I hated this so fucking much. Adult Misty slays but '96 Misty makes me want to die. Anyway... I think he gon be outed. Misty fucking assaulted and terrorized this guy for so long, and then he told her that he was gay. She isn't going to sit on this, she's going to tell everyone. I don't think anyone's going to be homophobic, because they were all fine with Taivan, but I do think that this is going to really alienate her from Nat, who is Ben's best friend and #1 supporter.

In terms of whos, the head-honcho with the scary mask is, at this point, I'm almost certain that it's got to be Lottie. At first, I was betting on Taissa because of the whole "Became a leader in her adult life" thing, but now I'm shying against it, and I'm not quite sure why. Lottie is my first choice, not from a character standpoint, but purely from a literary one. She is the only character that has not yet appeared as an adult (next to Van) who has gotten any real characterization. And Van just kind of seems like a prop to be Tai's girlfriend and someone to get injured a shit ton. (I love Taivan, don't get me wrong)

Flight 571

If you don't know, flight 571 was a real flight, carrying a Urgarian rugby team, that crashed in the Andes. It is often known as "The Miracle of the Andes." Of the 45 people on the flight, 16 survived, and they did so by eating each other. It was a big hyper-fixation of mine for a while.

One of the biggest differences between the Yellowjackets vs 571, is the setting. As 571 crashed in the Anes, where there was absolutely no life, and their flight obviously crashed in the forest, where they can hunt. But as winter approaches, the two climates become more and more similar, which will probably lead to more parallels.

There are already a shit ton of parallels, starting way back in episode 2, with none other than Van. Her Flight 571 parallel is, arguably the most famous of the group, Nando Parrado. And although your parallels aren't glaring, there is no questioning that they're there. Nando had a fractured skull and was in a Coma for three days after the crash. At first, he was to be counted among the dead, but at the last minute, he was pulled back into the plane, where he survived and became one of the most important people on the flight and one of the survivors. This is a parallel to the way that Van almost died in the fire, but survived and became a very important figure.

In relation to the whole "eating Jackie" thing. In the real-life flight 571 They didn't eat the already dead, they only ate the people that had consented to be eaten when they were alive. This will most likely not play into it at all here, but I want to see how they handle the morality of the situation

Another thing that came up a lot in the crash of 571, was whether or not they could physically;y stomach the meat. Many passengers, even when dying of starvation, could not stomach the meat of their fellow passengers. Again, I doubt this will come up, but It would be dope if it did.

Rationing horror. I want it. I know I'm a jerk, but there is one instance in 571 that has always stuck with me, and this is the fact that one of the 571 passengers (I believe it was my man Nando) ate one chocolate-covered almond over the course of three days. First the outer layer of the chocolate, and then the two slivers of almond, one at a time. I don't have a reason for it, but I really want this to play a part.

I'm very confused about how the cannibalism wasn't immediately found out when they were rescued. In the real-life Andes flight, people figured it out almost immediately. They were immediately rushed to the hospital, and when the doctors puzzled out that they had to be eating something, it was all out in the open pretty fast. I'm curious how the Yellowjackets managed to cover it up.

Things I Loved

Pretty much the whole show. Even the things I hated (see below) are either so small or made sense narratively that it allowed for a really enjoyable watching experience. It was beautiful to look at. Amazingly acted. Amazingly scripted. And just an all-around excellent show.

Things I hated

The Misty/Ben arc. I hated this so fucking much. Ben is my favourite character, and he was straight-up getting harassed by Misty. She also only stopped when she forced him out. And even then she didn't stop being bitter about it. ("[Ben] tricked me into falling in love with him") She also TRIED TO RAPE HIM??? Even after he said no multiple times during episode nine. It also made me cringe, super hard, which isn't as important but still makes me hate it. This is why I have '96 Misty. I understand that it made literary sense, but still...

The fact that 571 is canon in the Yellowjackets universe. It is mentioned in a throwaway line said by that reporter. I believe in episode eight, It feels like a mistake, like when Hot Tub Time Machine was referenced in Endgame. I have already said that it is clear that Yellowjackets is loosely based on flight 571, which makes me feel weird...

The way that schizophrenia was presented. I'm not Schitzo Spec, nor a medical professional so I'm not speaking from experience, but from the research I've done, it can be pretty harmful to use hallucinations to convey evil things or to present it as a gift. Both of which are done in the show

Character Thoughts:

I am completely separating the '96 characters from the present day. In my mind thus far they are different people. This is in literally no order

Reporter: Literally no strong feelings about her what-so-ever, don't even know her name

Those three random girls: You know who I'm talking about. I don't even know their names so I don't care.

Jeff: I hate him. He makes me want to murder him. He cheated on his girlfriend with her best friend. Then blackmailed her friends for money because people didn't want his furniture. 0/10 do not recommend

'96 Misty: I really hate her, even more than Jeff. She's the only character who I like the present-day version of her more than the teen version. Again, the whole Misty/Ben act made me really deeply resent her

Present-day Misty: I love her. So much. She and House should team up and create the malpractice hospital of the century. I was on the fence about her until the very end when she poisoned the reporters cigarettes. And now I love her.

'96 Lottie: I think that she needs a bit more development, and I can see her becoming one of my favourites. Apart from my thoughts on her schizophrenia, I think that with a bit more characterization she can become almost perfect

'96 Vanessa: I love her. Again, I feel like she is mostly being portrayed as someone to do gruesome stuff too, and as a prop for Tai., but the crumbs of Characterization we get for her are awesome. I love the way that she took Lotties weird bone/good luck charm with her. Is shows that she's really sweet and a good person.

'96 Nat: Yes. Her. Yes. Also, she's definitely queer and no I do not take criticism. I think that, even though she's so broken, her and Travis have a really unique and great bond, even at their worst. I also LOVE her relationship with Wen (Don't worry, we're getting to him) She's probably my favourite of the girls.

Present day Nat: Unpopular opinion, but just eh. She's a very tragic character, and that's important for the story. I think that her grief, and her relapse, are very realistic. I can empathize with her, but she isn't very interesting and one of my favourites.

'96 Jackie: I hate her too. I think she's whiny, and doesn't pull her weight. And her insane amount of pouting is what got her killed. I understand that there was a whole arc about her not pulling her weight, but I don't think that ever got really resolved. She did the seance, but that definitely did more bad than good. I wish she wasn't dead, but she irritates me.

'96 Travis: I definitely think he had some of the best development out of all the kids. During the first couple of episodes, I was team eat Travis first and now I'm team eat him second or third. Still not my favourite, but I don't hate him.

'96 Shauna: I think that she's a bi-disaster and in love with Jackie, but honestly to me she seems a bit one-sided. I don't really have super strong thoughts on her

Present-day Shauna: The worst of the adults. Even if it turns out her husband is blackmailing her, she shouldn't have cheated, especially if she didn't know. She pretty much neglects her daughter and kept those journals even though it meant putting her team in jeopardy.

'96 Javi: I think that at the beginning, he had the potential to be interesting. Especially with the whole, dead dad/gum thing. But we haven't really heard from him in a while, so there isn't much to say.

'96 Tai: I like her a lot, I think that she is the one whose characterization as a child comes through the most as an adult. You can see her leadership come through and strengthen as the season go on, which obviously morphs into her becoming senator as an adult.

Present day Tai: Fine. Just fine. I think that her arc as an adult is quite interesting because most of her reach characterization came through in her marriage/parenting/politics stuff, and not in the mystery. But she's fine.

Ben: Oh my precious. Oh, my baby. This man can do no wrong. he could eat literally everyone else, including Nat and Van, and I would continue to give him cuddles and words of affirmation. My favourite character of all time, the reason I hate '96 Misty. If anyone does anything to him they are dead to me forever. That one scene where he's high on shrooms and screaming at the sky that he's gay. Goosebumps.

TL;DR

I'm a really fucked up person who just spent almost hours writing an essay on a show she isn't even done watching yet.

#I opened my computer and then woke up two hours later in my bathtub covered in sweat with this written out.#tw mentions of rape #tw rape #yellowjackets96 #yellowjackets show #yellowjackets #shauna shipman #taissa turner #vanessa palmer #ben scott #misty quigley #Trevor martinez #javi martinez #natalie scatorccio #jackie taylor

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Top 5 birds

this is an extremely difficult question i hope you know this

First, let's define what a bird is. This probably seems like a pretty easy question, but ask any paleontologist and you'll get like four different answers. From the same person.

Because phylogenetically, it's extremely difficult to say, definitely, what makes a bird a bird. For a drunk, slightly-outdated explanation of why paleontologists don't know what birds are, check out the following video:

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It's not my video to be clear, I just really like it for all the confusion it illustrates. One of my favorite ways to piss off my colleagues is to call Triceratops a bird, which nobody likes to hear because it's stupid as fuck, but if feathers make something a bird then, well...

ANYWAY. For the sake of this ask, I'm going to use Avialae as my cutoff for Bird because it sounds pretty and (probably) includes Archaeopteryx but not Dromaeosaurus. Unfortunately this does not include Microraptor, which is very sad because Microraptor is a good little friend. This does, however, probably include the Scansoriopterygids, the real-life wyverns that I wrote a post about here.

Above left: Archaeopteryx, from Nat Geo Kids. Above right: Dromaeosaurus, from Gabriel N.U.

So here are my birds below the cut:

5. Secretary bird (Sagittarius serpentarius)

First off, nice genus name, though I think she's a gemini. This is a gorgeous bird of prey from Subsaharan Africa that looks kind of like a vulture in flight but a bitch on the ground. They kick snakes to death because of course they do. They are the only member of their family, Sagittariidae, which is within Accipitriformes and therefore places them closer to hawks and eagles rather than falcons.

4. Hoatzin (Opisthocomus hoazin)

SKUNK BIRD SKUNK BIRD THESE GUYS ARE FART MONSTERS. They are the only living members of their entire order! Their babies still have claws on their wings! Hoatzin are herbivorous birds from the Amazon that like leaves and fruit and have a weird digestive system convergent on mammalian ruminants. Food ferments in their strange gut which gives them a bad stink and a bad taste. Despite being fairly large, poor fliers, they smell and taste so bad that people don't eat them. In addition, their preferred habitat (swampy marshlands rather than true rainforest) is disappearing slower than the rainforest proper, so these stinky idiots are IUCN Least Concern.

3. Turkey vulture (Cathartes aura)

If you live in the United States and see a fairly large black bird circling above you and trying its damnedest not to flap its wings, it's probably a turkey vulture. They are lazy and have few natural predators. These guys sometimes get a bad rap because their cousins, the black vultures, are not terribly well-behaved and will sometimes attack newborn cattle. Turkey vultures do not kill. They are too lazy. I love them because they refuse to expend effort, even on flying, and that's an entire mood. They're also pretty chill. I met one named Lurch at ZooMontana who was a bro that had been raised as a pet and thought he was a human. Other vultures perplexed him.

2. Confuciusornis

Above is a stunning specimen of Confuciusornis sanctus currently residing at the Natural History Museum of Vienna. It's actually a really common creature in the Early Cretaceous Yixian Formation in Northern China. It's small, about the size of a pigeon, and those double tail feathers are not present in every specimen --possibly indicating sexual dimorphism. There's debate over how good these little dudes were at flying, but the most recent evidence I could find suggests they could perform powered flight in short bursts.

There is a persistent myth that paleontologists cannot know what color an extinct animal was. We actually can discern color for particularly well-preserved specimens, though this is an emerging concept with lots of ongoing research. The presence of fossilized melanosomes (organelles visible under a microscope that carry color information for soft tissue) possibly indicates they were a rusty brown color, but other researchers think they may have been closer to gold and white.

Above left from DK Find Out

1. Black-billed magpie (Pica hudsonia)

I love these horrible bastards!!!!!! They're so trashy and loud!!!! They are easily one of my favorite animals ever, full stop. They are notorious for eating songbird eggs and chicks, but they actually don't do that terribly often. They prefer ~your garbage~ or, truthfully, nuts and seeds and lots and lots of bugs. Like crows and ravens, magpies (which are also Corvids) follow wolves and other predators to scavenge from their kills. Also like crows and ravens, magpies are highly intelligent. They were the first non-mammal to pass the mirror test, indicating that magpies can very likely recognize themselves in a mirror. Magpies hold funerals (or post-mortems...) for their dead and can be taught human speech.

They are stunningly beautiful animals, but Western culture refuses to understand them and chooses prejudice and ignorance over curiosity and compassion. Let me be clear: if you hate magpies (or really any animal; they're just doing their thing) I do not like you. That sounds harsh, but it is unfathomable to me that a person would actually hate an animal for living its life. They are not gentle, they are not sweet (usually, tw animal death in video: a baby magpie is rescued after its possible siblings were found shot), but they are vibrantly beautiful survivalists that have found a way to thrive among creatures that villainize them. You don't have to love or even like them, but every animal deserves respect. Magpies just deserve a little more. ;)

I can do Eir's favorite birds in another post with more detail, but Tumblr is trying to keep me from spreading the good news by enforcing an image limit so for now, a list of Eir's favorite birbs:

5. Red-tailed hawk. They're fairly large survivalists that live fucking everywhere in the US. She would definitely relate to their hardiness and determination. Also, they're the ones that make the hawk noise (at 0:31).

4. Little blue penguin. I maintain that if Thedas is in the Southern Hemisphere, it should have penguins. Eirwen is not always one to freak out over cute things, but her cold hard heart would absolutely melt for a little blue penguin.

3. These fucking things. Just because they're hilarious.

2. Pigeons. In some life or another, she is a crazy pigeon lady. There's a fun AU! She would love having so many small, chubby, cooing friends to feed and care for. I could see her devoting her retirement to a flock of stupid round bird children because that's just who she is.

1. Carrion crow. Because of course.

#LONG POST LONG POST #ANON YOU HAVE AWAKENED ME #EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN TO ME TALK ABOUT BIRDS #BIRDS #crow #magpie #paleontology #vulture #hawk #but not with an 'e'#hawke's favorite bird is a dragon #eir's list is at the end btw #i also really love stellers jays but i limited myself to one corvid

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ain-t-bovvered · 4 years

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15x03 Commentary

bunch of tired and caffeinated Europeans ( plus a sleepy American) scream together, and then die and try to get on with their day ( lol AS IF)

Hello and welcome:

@purpleskiesandcherrypies (Nat)

@dean-winchesters-bacon (Kat)

@waywardbaby (Zee)

@ain-t-bovvered (Giulia)

Opening my phone in the morning:

What the fuck happened

Kat: You don’t wanna know

Kat: You’ll find out soon enough

Zee: Yeah ok I went to tumblr. Why did I do that ?

Kat: SHAME ON YOU

Giulia: BECAUSE U HAVE 0 PATIENCE

Kat: If you wanted to know I could have told you

Zee: I just opened the freaking thing and glanced at the first thing on my dash. Clearly, it was the wrong thing to glance at. I yeeted out

Giulia: I DON T WANNA BE HERE

Giulia: will I cry

Kat: Do you want the honest answer

Giulia: No

Kat: Didn’t think so

Giulia: Im so tired already

Zee: Oh shush

Kat: Don’t I know it

Nat : ok i'm read

Nat : or not . whatever

Giulia: I’m not!! Help

Giulia: Ok im ready

Kat: Question first!

Zee: Uh oh

Giulia: I don t like it

Kat: With the download, do y’all have the green CW screen first?

US: no

Giulia: * stressed* Why

Kat: Because I watch my recording, I don’t download so I want to make sure I start in the same spot

Giulia: Oh ok.... Geez

Zee: Are we ready?

Nat : Are we all not ready

Kat: I think we are right?

Nat : 3

Nat : 2

Nat : 1

Nat : go

Giulia: Ghost’s town again yay

Nat : Unpopular opinon: I hope Ketch dies

Kat: Sames

Giulia: Well he done anyway so

Kat: ...

Giulia: GREAT

Nat : idgaf about Ketch

Nat : AH GHOST TOWN THE 3RD YAY I'm so happy

Kat: Love these random ass hunters

Giulia: I see white pants I think Jensen jib10

Kat: SHUSH

Nat : Legit wanna throw my laptop away

R: The "Rafforza l'incantesimo"

my italian ass: GASPS

Giulia: Look at Rowena pretty dress

Kat: Yyyeessss that dress

Giulia: Also she brought a change

Zee: Came prepared

Nat : She's the thing that keeps me watching at the moment

Kat: Of course, it’s Rowena

Nat : UGH I felt that

Giulia: I felt dean

Zee: For me it’s deans legs and cas’s fed up face

Giulia: That place again

Giulia: What

Nat : Insert Joey gif: I'M SOOOOO SICK OF THIS TOOOOOWN

Giulia: Noted

oh look me walking with my tall friends

that door banging scared the shit out of me

R: Prendi cio che è debole, rendilo forte. D'una piuma d'oca, fai una spada.

Take what’s weak and make it stronger. Of a duck feather make it a sword

Giulia: OH ITALIAN

Zee: Is she speaking Italian?

R: Dalla nebbia, cemento possente, impenetrabile, inflessibile.

From fog, mighty concrete, impenetrable, inflexible

Giulia: SHE IS

R: Rendilo forte.

Make it stronger

Giulia: And pretty well too

Kat: It’s not working Sam

Zee: Connection lost. Check server

Giulia: Oh no

Kat: And down she goes

Giulia: Thanks

Zee: A real drink

Giulia: Lol

Kat: This look 🤣🤣🤣

Giulia: Gotta use it

Kat: Love the silent conversations

Giulia: Fuck off belphy

Nat : Ah angry ghosts . What else is new

Zee: I kinda love his sass

Kat: Same but I still want to stab him

Nat : Wow, imagine this was the last three episodes. It's over in a freaking ghost town. I'm still salty, can you see?

Giulia: Yeah that would fucking destroy me

Kat: Not at all you hide it so well

Giulia: That’s not who we are

Zee: Go Dean!! Tell them

Giulia: AWE SAM

Kat: Aw Sammy

Giulia: SAM

He’s so gentle . Such a big gentle giant, I love him.

Zee: Control your face Sam

Kat: That doesn’t happen. At all.

Giulia: YOU SHUSH THE FUCK DOWN

Giulia: that strap tho

Nat : Not gonna give up

Kat: He never does. Take a knee

Nat : He's like a leave in the wind, give up not giving up give up not giving up

Zee: Is he us?

D: Oh, I'm not freaked. I'm angry, okay? I'm pissed.

Giulia: I M PISSED TOO

Kat: THAT PISSED WAS SO COUNTRY

Kat: Jensen your Texas is showing

Giuls: And I’m loving it

Giulia: I need more then

D: Th-This... This sloppy-ass ghostpocalypse... that's Chuck's ending? No. No, I don't think so. After everything that he has put us through? I'll be damned if I'm gonna let some glorified fanboy get the last word.

Giulia: SLOPPY ASS GHOST APOCALYPSE

Nat : Sloppy Ass Ghost Apocalypse. Yeah, that's about sums it up

Zee: Glorified fan boy

Giulia: dean speaking up for the fandom

S: Anything useful in there? R: Not a thing.

sure

Nat : You don't have eyes

Nat : snorts

Zee: You don’t have eyes

Giulia: Ok that was funny

B: I got an idea, but, uh... you're not gonna like it.

Giulia: DON T

Giulia: TOUCH

Giulia: MAH BABY

Kat: You okay bb?

Giulia: no I’m fear

Kat: What

Giulia: Because i just remembered the season trailer. And i wanna be wrong

Zee: Surprised moose

Nat : Did he just say, minions

Nat : But that would mean that Belphy would stay on earth?

Kat: No he’d be in hell

Nat : Ah

Giulia: Ah

Giulia: ... I don t like this

Kat: DIBS ON SAMUEL

Nat : Dibs on Samuel

Giulia: Dibs on samuel

Zee: Dibs on Samuel

Nat : Hey

Giulia: AH sam witch confirmed

Nat : I'm calling Dibs on Dean then

Kat: NO

Giulia: Cas🙋🏼‍♀

Zee: Was waiting for Kat

R: Whoever does this, they'll be unprotected. No salt circles... all manner of angry spirits right up in their grill.

Nat : So yeah, Belphy wants Cas

Giulia: NO Don t look at my bb

B: I want protection.Muscle.

D: Yeah, Cass’ll go.

C: Well, it sounds like I don't have a choice.

Giulia: DEAN

Zee: Dean threw him under the bus

Giulia: ugh

Kat: Oh babe

Giulia: COME ON

Nat : Dean would literally do anything now

Nat : That's how desperate he is

Kat: YUP

Nat : I see more of Ketch than I ever wanted

future me: ain’t that right

Zee: His underwear are ridiculous

Kat: SNORTS

Nat : Kill him

Giulia: Jesus lady there is an apocalypse going on

random demon I don’t care about: And you won't give them up? Not for any price?

K: Not at any price.

Giulia: Aw ketch

Kat: ya happy Nat?

Nat : AHHHHH OMG YES

Giulia: Eh

Giulia: We are at 2 spn final season deaths already nice

Zee: Casually strolling the graveyard

B: You know, your part in all this is, uh, pretty dangerous.I mean, you could die, get trapped in Hell. Your friends might never see you again. Funny, 'cause, uh,they didn't seem to think twice about it.

R.U.D.E.

Nat :lol Cas

Giulia: AHAHAHAH

Zee: Ok

Kat: Hhhhhhhaaaahahhaaa

Giulia: DO I LOVE HIM

Giulia: witch stuff

Nat : And what's Dean's role in this?

Nat : I think I got distracted

Kat: Outside by the hole

Giulia: Being grumpy

Nat : Ah where he should be 😉

Kat: Ready and waiting lol

Giulia: Well you’d want him in

Nat : Well, not the whole of him

Zee: FOCUS LADIES

Zee: so fed up

C: Yet you needed protection, "muscle", for this?

B: Okay, you got me. I wanted company. I wanted your company. What? Shouldn't we at least try and be friends?

Nat : Belphy is Giuls

Giulia: WOW

Nat : You would want Cas' company too

C: You are not growing on anyone. Sam and Dean are just using you. Don't mistake that for caring about you, because I can assure you they don't.

B: Wow. You learn that the hard way?

Giulia: AWE NO BELPHY SHUSH

Kat: Cas should know

Nat : Sush

Giulia: OH THAT REALLY STUNG

C: You're wearing Jack, who was like a son to me, like a coat.

Zee: Like a son to me

C: It's an abomination.

Giulia: im sad. I’m so sad

Zee: I think you should wait

Kat: It’s gonna get worse bb

Giulia: DON T PUSH HIM

Nat : Why does Cas has to go in first

Giulia: what else is new

Zee: The muscle

Nat : Ah

Nat : Do we trust him?

Kat: WHAT DO YOU THINK

Zee: No

Giulia: I hate how I can recognize enochian

Giulia: I trust bel so little

Nat : I don't think he should say that out loud

Kat: SUNG

Giulia: Oh

Zee: What?

Giulia: WHAT

Kat: SING IT CAS

Giulia: OMG WHAT

Nat : Don't do it?

C: ♪ Toh-luh dah... ♪

Giulia: OH COME ON

Kat: That’s all you get lol

Giulia: fuck Oh great that was the “musical”

Nat : Ah Dean's at the hole

Nat : snorts

Kat: There might be a couple seconds more I can’t remember

Nat : Sam just thinks that he should be with Dean when this all goes to shit

Nat : And I cry

Giulia: ...great

Kat: Nope

C: ♪ ... mee ♪

Zee: Like an angel

Nat : WELL

Giulia: Oh fuck off

Zee: Oh fuck

Giulia: Well

Nat : Who is she again

Giulia: Ardat Some demon who wanted to kill bel

Nat : Ardat Lili is a dangerous storm spirit from ancient Sumeria, a vampiric succubus who visits men at night

Giulia: Thanks Hermione

Kat: Thanks google

Zee: Nerd

Nat : At least I know how to work google. Unlike the majority, it seems

Giulia: well I’m doing 3 things at the same time

Giulia: Everybody wants to rule hell. Nobody learned a thing from Crowley

Zee: It’s been a while since Cas got smacked

Giulia: He’s a fucking angel

Giulia: OF COURSE

Nat : THERE WAS A VACANCY. Pfffff

Kat: Ugh he’s so annoying

Zee: That close up Giuls ?

Giulia: I KNOW EXCITING

Nat : Ah the wind in Dean's hair

Nat : I need that close up Giuls

Kat: The wind in Cas’ trench

Nat : lol in Cas' shirt

Giulia: that hand holding

Kat: 😭

Giulia: I’m having anxiety

Zee: We see

Kat: YOU SHOULD

Nat : Shouldn't Cas go out before it closes. Before Dean throws that bomb in?Ah, too late

Giulia: I can t take it

Giulia: DEAN. DEAN FUCK

Zee: COME ON

Kat: He’s got business

Giulia: CAS

Giulia: what

Kat: IT’S NOT HIS FAULT AT THE MOMENT

Giulia: What is happening

Giulia: I’m so angry at everyone

Kat: CAS IS MAD

B: It's me... Jack.

Giulia: JACK SHUT UP

Zee: NO

Giulia: OH NO

The struggle Castiel going through is painful ok. I hate it , HATE IT.

Nat : Ah so Jack is gone?

Kat: His body I guess

Giulia: I HATE THIS

Nat : For good?

Giulia: FUCK NO

Zee: WTF

Giulia: WHAT WAS THAT SIGH

Well this destroyed me .

future me: AH JUST YOU WAIT DUMB BITCH

Kat: That wasn’t Jack

Nat : Because he's still in the empty, right? He's forgotten there

Giulia: FUCK

Kat: Death has plans

Zee: CAS

Oh you can see the moment Castiel feels like he’s got nothing left . great.

Nat : What

Giulia: ROWENA

Nat : WHAT

Kat: JUST FUCKING WAIT

R: Won't need that where I'm going.

Nat : Ah fuck

R: Magic can do anything, Samuel , can contain anything... even the vast multitudes of Hell.

Giulia: I HATE THIS

Zee: WHAT?

Giulia: NO

Nat : If I pay the price

R:"Death Is an Infinite Vessel." A spell so simple it draws its power from its caster.Just two ingredients.

S: Rowena, why didn't you tell us?

shut up Sam

R: Because, dear, the first ingredient is my own still-coursing blood. And the last is my final breath.

Giulia: I DON T LIKE THE PRICE

Nat : Rowena loves them to much

Zee: Hold on HOLD ON

Giulia: i love her so much

R: I'll absorb the ghosts and demons and return them to Hell.In time, my body'll break down, and they'll be released right where they belong.

S: No, no. No. Rowena... no.

Giulia: GREAT

Nat : NO AH

Giulia: I DON T WANNA SEE SAM CRY

R: To perform this spell, I have to die. And it has to be you that kills me.

Nat : Right, in every death book of Rowena, she's killed by Sam

Kat: POOR SAMMY

Giulia: OF COURSE GREAT

Zee: HE GOT OUT

Kat: SEE HE GETS OUT

Giulia: BUT AT WHAT PRICE

Kat: MIGHT BE BETTER IF HE STAYED THOUGH

Giulia: WHAT ?! YIKES

R: My real, permanent demise is at your hands. It's in Death's books.

S: Yeah, well, you know what? Screw the books.

Us: *LOUD GASP*

D: Wh-What about the Crook?

C: It's gone. It was destroyed.

That what is so ..... wow

R: I don't care about anything enough to take my own life.Not you, your brother... not even the world. But I believe in prophecy. I believe in magic. And I'm here, and you're here, and everything we need to end this right is in our hands.I know this in my bones...it has to be this way. Do it! Kill me, Samuel!

Nat : I'm-

Kat: 😭😭😭😭😭

Giulia: I’m

Zee: INDONT WANNA WATCH

Giulia: I CANT TAKE ALL THIS

Nat : Fuck, Sammy

Giulia: OH MY GOD SAM

Nat : Sam is too fragile for that

Kat: I BELIEVE IN PROPHECY AND MAGIC 🤣😭😭

R: I know we've gotten quite fond of each other, haven't we? But will you let the world die, let your brother die, just so I can live?

Giulia: NO SHUT UP

Zee: Shut up Rowena

Giulia: NO

Nat : Dean's pissed. What else is new

Giulia: NO NO

Nat : NO

Giulia: SAM

Nat : NOOOOO

Giulia: FUCK

Zee: God damn

Kat: NNNOOOOOOOOO

Giulia: STOP IT

Kat: She says Dean’ll die and Sam gets stabby

Giulia: NO ROWEEEENAAA

R: That's my boy.

Kat: THATS MY BOY

Nat : Of course

Giulia: WHAT IS THAT FACE SAM

Giulia: FUCK OFF

Giulia: FUCK THESE EPISODES

Nat : OH NO

Giulia: SHIT

Kat: IS IT BETTER OR WORSE THAN BORING

Nat : SAMMY CONTROL YOUR FUCKING FACE

Giulia: IM NOT READY

Giulia: NO DON T SAY THAT

Kat: JUST LIKE CROWLEY

Giulia: COME ON

Zee: CAN THE MUSIC NOT

Nat : CAS

Giulia: CAS BB

Giulia: WHY AM I SO TIRED

Zee: IMAGINE HOW SAM IS FEELING

Nat : HENLEY

Giulia: oh dean is in the nude

Zee: BUTT NAKED

Kat: SUCH GOOD SINGLE LAYER HENLEY PORN

Giulia: Oh he was crying In his room

Nat : Does Sam actually fit in the bed?

Giulia: Ah yeah ketch too

Kat: Okay I know it’s super sad but these boys are looking GOOD

Giulia: I KNOW AND IM SANGRY

I’M STILL MOURNING OK

C: How's Sam?

D: Not great.

Kat: Get ready babes

C: Sorry about Rowena.

Giulia: No i refuse

Zee: WHAT?

Nat : NO

Giulia: Fuck

Nat : Don't you throw this in Kat

D: You're sorry? Why didn't you just stick to the damn plan?

Giulia: I DON T WANNA WATCH

C: He wanted to eat every last soul to take over Hell, Earth, and every...

D: Yeah, and we would've figured it out... after. With Rowena.

OK but listen...figuring it out later could have been worse , although it’s true that Rowena was a real great asset. Idk man I’m hurting

Giulia: i can feel dean’s anger

Nat : Dean control your anger

C: Something went wrong. You know this. Something always goes wrong.

D: Yeah, why does that something always seem to be you?

Kat: Oooohhhh boy

Nat : WHAT

Giulia: NO

Nat : DID YOU JUST SAY

Giulia: DEAN U FUCK

you can see the shock and hurt and heartbreak on Cas’ face but it’s fine , it’s fine WE’RE FINE

C: You used to trust me, give me the benefit of the doubt. Now you can barely look at me.

They both so hurt and I cannot bear this

Zee: Can’t breathe

C: My powers are failing, and...

yeah can we talk about that ? becasue...why the fuck

C: and I've tried to talk to you, over and over, and you just don't want to hear it. You don't care.

Nat : The eyeroll

Giulia: I HATE THIS SHIT

Kat: I know bb

SO ANGRY

C: I'm... dead to you.

SO SAD

Nat : The eyeroll

Giulia: I HATE THIS SHIT

Kat: I know bb

Giulia: IS THIS FANFIC

Giulia: I READ THIS 364830173 TIMES

C: You still blame me for Mary.

Giulia: NO

C: Well, I don't think there's anything left to say.

D: Where you going?

IS THIS FANFIC

Nat : CAS IS GOING AWAY

Nat : CAS STAY

Kat: You knew it was happening bb

Zee: WHAT

Zee: THE

Zee: FUCK

C: Jack's dead. Chuck's gone. You and Sam have each other.

Giulia: NO THIS SONG

Nat : I know

Kat: I know

C: I think it's time for me to move on.

Zee: STOP HIM YOU ASSUOLE

Nat : I knew it but I'm not happy about it

Kat: Group hug

Giulia: WELL DEAN LOOKS REGRETFUL SO AT LEAST THERE’S THAT

Kat: As per usual. He lashes out then is sorry about it.

Nat : That's human

Giulia: HEY YALL CAN TALK TO MY CORPSE

Giulia: TRAILER TIME BECAUSE IM IN DENIAL

Giulia: MEH

Nat : Yeah well, the next ep is kinky

Giulia: gag me

Kat: Yup

Giulia: My heart is broken. This ep destroyed me

Kat: I know bb

Zee: DONT LIKE THE PROMO

Giulia: FUCK OFF THE PROMO I DON T GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT IT

Kat: But Jensen directed

Zee: Dean was exceptionally assholy

Nat : We'll get Lumberjack Dean

Kat: That too

Giulia: dean is on a real fine thread

Giulia: I think that’s when there is samifer

Kat: Well the red was there And it was red when we see bearded!dean

Giulia: I currently don’t give a shit honestly

Kat: They’ll make up by the end

Giulia: Yeah i wanna see when

Giulia: Whatever I’m so tired

Giulia: Fuck off

Giulia: Im also pretty real sad. And that hasn’t happened in long on spn

Kat: Jensen said in an interview it hasn’t happened yet so we’ll see

Zee: We all are

Kat: I know. I knew exactly how y’all would react

Giuls: Ok but it’s not even about destiel. I just hate to see them fight instead of working together

Giulia: My stomach hurts too now. I should go. Kat go the fuck to sleep. And nobody talks to me about the ep

Kat: I AM TALKIN TO ZEE

Giulia: Hush i can still hear you over the sound of my soul crying

Zee: In my defense, I told her to sleep

Kat: Give your soul a tissue

Kat: She did. Many times. I didn’t listen like usual

Giulia: That vinyl now looks real good to ease my pain. Not gonna lie

Zee: Take me with you. I’ll probably be a mile back but still

Giulia: I rewatched the end briefly because I’m a dumb bitch. And yep, i can confirm i screamed into my pillow and got actually teary eyed and boi am I dumb to get actually tears for a tv show jesus and it’s only ep 3 but the threat of the ending is getting tight around my neck already and this is stupid, and fuck. And bye

Giulia: People are hating over everything right now

Kat: Yup. People hate Cas, people hate Dean, people hate the town (@Nat ) Plus, I think it, being the last season, makes people lash out more.

Nat : Hey

Kat: Did I lie?

Nat : No but it still hurts

Kat: Well they’re away from it now At least there’s that

Giulia: Why, where are they Idk

Kat: Do I have to say it?

Giulia: Say what

Kat: Where people are. I don’t think you wanna hear it

Giulia: Exactly

Kat: So we won’t say it lol

Giulis: For what it’s worth all the people throwing hate at Dean and Castiel can all suck my dick.

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thenexusofsouls · 4 years

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“🎧 + ALL THE MUSES!!! (if too many then Hawkeye, and Micheal thank you)

Send “🎧 + a muse” and I’ll pick a song from my playlist that reminds me of them!

(It’s never too many! XD Also you didn’t ask for explanations but you’re gonna get ‘em anyway.)

MICHAEL: For You Only by Trading Yesterday

This song makes me thing about the despair and loneliness that Michael felt when he fell from heaven, for being separated from god is an emotional and devastating experience for an angel. He fell on a dark, cold, rainy night, which certainly did not help. He wonders if his actions have made him irredeemable in god’s eyes and wonders if he will ultimately be grated mercy, but in the meantime, he’s far away from home and has to focus on that. No matter how much he wants to go back to the heavens, he’s on earth now and he’s made his choice to defy his orders. But where most might thing that puts him at odds with god, on his end it is actually because he loves god so much that he defied the order he was given. God lost faith in man, his special creation that he once loved so much. In loving god, Michael wants to restore that faith god has lost, and to prove him wrong that man is beyond salvation. To do that, he has to defy him in the meantime, and that means a painful sacrifice and a lot of fear and sadness on Michael’s end.

VERIDIAN: Icarus by Mythos

This song has a light and playful energy, which reminds me of innocent Veridian playing in the ocean and seeing the sights. But as the song goes on, the key modulates up and up, the pace becomes more tense, the notes slightly more dissonant, and it seems like the energy changes from light and playful to foreboding. That combined with the title of the song, Icarus, and the nature of that character, facing doom because he flew too close to the sun, makes me thing of Veridian ultimately getting too curious about humans and not thinking enough about his safety. He’s much too trusting and innocent and doesn’t realize the dangers until it’s too late and he’s stuck in some fisherman’s net or being caught to populate a zoo of some kind.

MARIE SEBASTIAN: Destiny by Roque Banos and the Bratislava Symphony Orchestra (Oldboy 2013 OST) (Specifically from 0:00 to 1:55)

*sigh* This song, heh. This whole story, really. It’s so heartbreaking. Marie is a very deep, serious, and tragic character, and the first two minutes of this song (which is essentially the main emotional theme of the movie) evokes the same sort of mood in me. If I ever lack muse to write Marie, all I have to do it listen to this and I am instantly wanting to write her. It’s so moving and creates the same just... heartfelt and painfully tragic mood that the story of her character evoked in me when watching the movie. Also the way the movie was left was so raw and unresolved, especially from her point of view, and this song has the feeling of sweeping sorrow that I attributed to that atmosphere at the end of the movie.

MARTHA: Marcy’s Song by John Hawkes (Martha Marcy May Marlene 2011 OST)(full version)(in-movie version)

So... John Hawkes is an actor who just happens to also be a very good musician as well. He played Patrick, the “cult” leader in Martha’s canon movie, Martha Marcy May Marlene. Now... while I hate his character SO MUCH, I can obviously separate the actor from the character and say that this song is actually quite beautiful and haunting. But anyway, in the movie, Patrick writes and plays this song for Martha. It’s her song, so you might be wondering why it’s not called “Martha’s Song.” So all the names in the movie titles are all of Martha’s identities. Part of living at this commune, which was a cult even if the word was never said, was an erasing and muddying of one’s identity. Her real name is Martha, but shortly after arriving, Patrick says she looks like a Marcy May. That then becomes her name that everyone there calls her. Marlene is the name all women at the commune were to give when they answered the phone. Anyway, this song makes me think of Martha not only because it’s in the movie and the words are really uncomfortably relevant to her situation, but also because the somberness of it and the acoustic, raw, homegrown feel of it seem to fit with her hippie-like way of life.

CLINT BARTON (especially Endgame Clint to Natasha): Leave Out All the Rest by Linkin Park

This makes me think of Ronin, Clint’s alter-ego during the five years after the snap. As angry as he was, I think some part of Clint was disappointed in himself for what he became and just degrading that far in general, especially with regard to having to look Natasha in the eye afterward. I think he admired her for continuing to keep up what was left of the Avengers and felt like, if anyone was going to see the good in him going forward after he had done all these terrible things, it would be her. So this song makes me think of him clinging to some hope that Natasha of all people would still care for him and miss him if something ever happened to him. Sad irony that she then ended up being the one to die. =(

NATASHA ROMANOFF: I am Criminal by Eric Serra (feat. Mitivaï Serra)(Anna 2019 OST)

The whole atmosphere of this movie and the character of Anna reminded me of Natasha in so many ways, but the lyrics and haunting nature of this song I feel also capture her more enigmatic side. On the one hand, the song is warning those listening to stay away because “I’m powerful” and “I’m a criminal” and keeping others at a distance by saying “don’t catch me, it’s impossible/I warn you,” but on the other hand the singer is begging for some kind of reassurance that she’s still a person worth caring about, “don’t tell me i’m irreversible.” There is also an element of feeling like one is beyond redemption, “and the role I play, so dark and gray, there’s never hope it will ever end.” I feel like that really rings true with Natasha’s guilt regarding the fact that “I’ve got red in my ledger.” There’s just so much in this song that suggests someone who wants to keep others at arm’s length but at the same time longs for something different and to be something different, which is at the heart of Nat’s character.

TONY STARK (especially Endgame Tony): Hero by Nickelback

So aside from the obvious references to being high and flying which fit him well, this makes me think about his time in space where he was just alone and basically waiting to die, and just everything he was thinking about during that time. Up that high, you might feel really close to heaven, but I don’t think Tony would think that heaven really cared about him. But then after he gets back to earth, the whole end confrontation with Thanos... I feel like Tony really doesn’t think of himself as a hero at all. He thinks he’s made too many mistakes, has too many flaws, so people are waiting for a hero to save everyone but you know what, I’m just gonna do it anyway in the meantime, heh. That’s the vibe I get from it. And then to get super painful on everyone now, the lines “Now that the world isn’t ending, it’s love that I’m sending to you. It isn’t the love of a hero, and that’s why I fear it won’t do,” I imagine are to Pepper after he uses the gauntlet and is dying, and maybe even his holographic message after that. Like basically, I’m not perfect but I love you and I did my best, and maybe that wasn’t what a hero would do and it’s not enough, but it’s all I got. Aaaaand I gave myself a sad on that one, heh. Ouch.

#about the muses

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animeheadcanonsblog · 4 years

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Avengers: Take a look through my eyes. Part 1

Not important but still in the story Cast: Nick Fury

Wanda Maximoff x Samantha

Natasha Romanoff x Alexa Stark

Act 0: The Hidden Past

Avengers Headquarters

"Sorry, for being late. Pietro was taking ages to make himself ready," Sam says as she walks in the Avengers "chilling room"(also called a living room) with the Maximoff twins.

Sam is a young, short girl with shoulder-length black hair, green eyes and a lot of scars on her face.

"Hey! It's not my fault that ve're late it's the guys fault. He parked his damn car in front of ours. So, that ve couldn't leave," Pietro says as he playfully glares at her.

"First of all...it's my car, second...the guy moved his car way faster this time than usual and he didn't even complaint this time and third for someone who can run in super-speed you are very slow in the morning, " Sam says with an almost...small smirk.

"The same guy again?" Alexa Stark asks amusingly

"More like the same guy as always," Sam says annoyed.

"Have you talked to him about it?" Steve asks her as he crosses his arms.

"Yes, every day...almost every day," She answers.

"Sam, do you want me to talk with him?" Natasha asks her.

"No, leave the poor guy alone. He's an idiot yes. But I don't think that he deserves to be scared for life by Black Widow," Sam says.

"Or by Tony Stark," Sam adds as she sees Tony open his mouth.

"Or by any other Avenger," She says and looks at the rest.

"Fine," The others say in unison holding up their hands in a defensive manner.

But Samantha (and the others) knows that her neighbour will have a visit later.

"Anyway, what's going on? You said that we should come here immediately," Wanda asks the others.

"Nicky here wants us to watch a creepy movie," Alexa says earning a few chuckles and a few annoying groans.

"A movie?" Sam asks and blinks at her with a blank expression.

"Alexa Star! Do you ever shut up?" Fury says as he glares at her.

"No," Everyone says in unison.

"Hey!" Alexa exclaims with a small grin.

"You are just as annoying as your brother," Clint says slightly annoyed but with a small amused grin on his face.

"What did you just said, Legolas?" Tony asks annoyed.

"No, she's sometimes even worse than Tony," Nat says smirking making every chuckle except for Alexa who is looking at her shocked.

"Hey! Traitor!" Alexa says as she glares and pouts playfully at Nat, who just simply rolls her eyes at her amusingly.

"Only sometimes? She annoys me more than all of you together...and that's says a lot," Samantha says bluntly.

Everyone bursts out laughing even Alexa couldn't hide her own grin,

"Whatever, sit down you three," Nick says deeply annoyed already.

The three latecomers look at each other slightly confused and with a hint of amusement, before they sit down on a couch.

Wanda sits in between Pietro and Samantha.

Nat, Alexa and Steve are sitting on one couch.

Bruce, Thor and Tony are sitting on one and Clint is sitting on the armrest.

"So, as I said earlier. Some creep send us videotapes with a letter. Basically, a creepy creep was spying on us and send us the videos so that we can change the future, which is kinda a mess," Alexa says like it's the most normal thing in the world.

"Vhat?" Pietro asks confused.

" Don't listen to this motherfucker. ("I'm not a motherfucker!") But the letter that was sent here together with the videotapes, says that the future...doesn't look good for anyone of us. A very powerful enemy attacked as and... killed most of the world population and us. The rest that is still alive is mentally done. So, there are a few tapes that we are going to watch witch are going to show as the future but the letter suggest first to watch the videotapes about the past. The videotapes about the past are going to make us understand two of our members better," Nick Fury tells them.

"And we are going to watch these creepy videotapes," Tony says bored.

"Wait, how do we even know that this person is telling the truth? It could a trap or a stupid prank from Alexa," Sam says

"Hey, my pranks aren't stupid!" Alexa says smirking,

"Yes, yes they are," Tony says as he rolls his eyes annoyed.

"No, they are not. They're amazing," Alexa argues back with a small smirk.

"Would you two, please stop acting like children?" Nat says rolling her eyes.

"Anyway, let's watch the videos already," Fury says annoyed.

Nick Fury starts the videos.

[Act 0: The hidden past]

New York City

Midnight

An old Orphanage

It was a small Orphanage somewhere almost hidden in the darkest alley. A small light was shining next to the entrance door. The door was painted in an ugly green almost brown colour and it has small cracks in the paint.

There was a wood sign with the name „The Hollow Woods".

Samantha gasps slightly as she read the name on the sign.

"What is it?" Wanda asks he rand looks at her slightly concerned.

The rest of the Avengers also look at her.

Samantha stares at the sign quietly before she looks at Wanda and then at the others.

"I...lived in there...I lived in the Orphanage," She says or more as she breathes it out.

"Really? You have never told us," Nat looks at her.

"To be fair, there's a lot of things that I haven't told you about me," Sam says shrugging.

"The Hollow Woods...Hmm, I have never even heard of this Orphanage. And I have donated a lot of money to different Orphanages," Alexa says.

"Well...I could tell you why you haven't heard of it..." Sam starts.

Everyone looks at her curiously.

"...But I think this would count as a spoiler, right? So, I'm not gonna tell you," She says with a small smirk.

Alexa groans slightly disappointed.

Tony rolls his eyes annoyed.

Clint, Pietro and Thor are grinning at her amusingly.

Steve and Bruce smile as they shake their heads.

Nat rolls her eyes like Tony but she also wears a small smirk on her face.

Wanda smiles slightly. She is not trying to look inside her head.

Sam hides a few things and she is not ready to tell them to anybody. She made Wanda promise her to not look inside her head unless Sam herself allows her or when it's absolutely necessary for example when she loses control over her power.

But even though Wanda doesn't even try to look inside Sam's head. She can't help herself, she still sees that the images of the old Orphanage make Sam feel a little bit homesick.

A woman covered in a black cloak walked towards the Orphanage and placed two bundles on the stairs.

A one or maybe a two-year-old little girl with black hair. She was wrapped in a warm wool blanket together with a 6 month-year-old boy.

They both cuddled together trying to find warmth.

"This is the only way to keep you safe from them. I'm sorry, my darlings.I hope you'll forgive me, One day." A female voice cried quietly as she gave a small, what seems a goodbye kiss, on the forehead to both of the kids.

Everyone looks at the scene with a sad look.

Bruce is slightly upset that the woman put the children on cold stairs but he understands that the woman was desperate to bring her children in safety.

Sam stares in thoughts at the two kids. She tries to remember if she saw them in the Orphanage. The little boy looks very familiar.

Wanda, Alexa and Natasha notice Sam staring at the two kids and the three also look at them.

"Please, take care of your brother, Sam," The woman whispered.

"Huh?" Everyone exclaims shocked and looks at Samantha who is looking very confused at the screen.

"That's....me?" She says as she looks closer at the girl.

"Well, she does have the same hair colour as you," Clint points out.

"AWW YOU'RE SO CUTE AND TINY," Thor says grinning widely.

The rest looks closer at the little girl and then at Sam.

"Aww," A few say while Sam rolls her eyes blushing.

Suddenly her eyes widen and she almost jumps out of her seat.

"Wait! If the girl is me....then the woman....is probably....my..." Sam says and stares at the woman.

No one says anything because they see the look on Sam's face.

There is a mix of excitement, curiosity, confusion and an undefined emotion on her face.

"You're strong, you will protect him. I know that our little Jacky will be safe with you,"

"Is that your...brother?"Steve asks, he and the rest looks at her.

But Sam doesn't answer, she stares at the little boy with a very sad expression.

The excitement and curiosity disappeared all that's left is a very sad and guilty look on her face.

Sam unconsciously leans closer to Wanda slightly in searching of comfort.

Wanda looks at her and rubs her back softly.

"You'll be safe here and no one will hurt you in here. This is the only way you two will survive. Goodbye, my babies," The woman sobbed and ran away without looking back. As if she was afraid, that if she would stay there any longer, that she would change her mind.

"Jinxed it," Sam mumbles under her breath.

Wanda hears it and looks at her she realizes that something bad happened to her brother.

She puts an arm around Sam's waist and kisses the side of her head gently.

Sam lies her head on Wanda's shoulder.

[A few years later]

The inside of the Orphanage looked very old. The furniture, the toys...everything looked so broken and old. This place didn't seem safe for children to be here...And yet...there are children in here. There weren't as many as in the more modern Orphanages. But still quite a number of children.

Despite the old look of the Orphanage, the old and strict looking ladies (Iknow that there is a word for that but I forgot it). The children look healthy and happy.

A little five-year-old looking girl walked into a room.

"Hey! Look that's the freak of our Orphanage," An older boy (maybe 10-12 years old) says grinning.

"What did he just said!?" Alexa exclaims angrily and leans forwards.

"Did this little shit just called you a freak?!" Clint says angrily.

"HOW DARE HE?" Thor roars angrily as he almost jumps up.

While the others didn't say anything it was clear that they were all angry (understatement).

Bruce clenches his fist he tries to hold the big (Hulky) guy inside.

Steven sighs and shakes his head disappointed but also clearly pissed.

Pietro looks almost disgusted at the little boy as he clenches his jaw and glances between Sam and his sister.

Wanda closes her eyes and breaths slowly, trying to calm her down.

There are almost no emotions on Natasha's face except for the murderous look in her eyes.

Everyone is ready to kill this boy.

Sam looks at the others she slightly gulps, she almost feels bad for the boy.

The only thing she can think of is calming Wanda. She softly rubs her arm and smiles at her softly with the hope that it helps.

It does help...Wanda relaxes slightly. (slightly is the keyword here)

"Ah, yes! Hey, freak do you wanna use your freakish power on us again?!" Another says.

"Ohh! I am a scary Monster and I will kill you all by glaring at you," A third one mocked her.

"Oh, no, you little shit. I am the one who can kill you by glaring at you," Alexa growls angrily and her eyes glow red.

Nat puts a hand on her hand and calms her down. Before Alexa melts down the screen on accident.

Nobody but Wanda notices how Sam slightly flinches at the word "Monster"

Wanda looks at her with a concerned look.

Sam looks back at her and smiles slightly at her.

Wanda smiles back at her.

The boys surrounded her but there was no sign of fear on Samantha's face.

"You know, that you'll never be adopted because of how much of a freak you are?" One boy said laughing.

"Well...actually our little Sammy is adopted by us already," Tony says smirking.

"Don't call me little Sammy!"Sam exclaims.

"Actually she is basically adopted by Nat and Lexi," Clint says grinning at both them.

Alexa and Natasha both shrug with a small smile on their lips. They both don't even try to deny it.

Which is not surprising to anybody. Both of them immediately took the parents roles them moment Sam joined the Avengers.

They are ridiculously protective over her. It's actually quite funny to see them both trying to be parents. Especially when one of them is way more childish than their "own" child. (*Cough* Alexa *cough*)

"But your little brat of a brother would have a chance if it weren't for you, you know? Many parents are asking about him but once they realize that they have to take care of a freak as well, they take another child," Another one said

The young Sam clenched her fists but still looked coldly at the boys.

"You're standing in his way, Sammy," The third one added and he sounded slightly dangerous.

"If you want him to be happy and find a family. Then you'll have to take a leap from the top of the roof. Maybe then he'll at least will have a chance to get a family," The three said and laughed.

Oh, boy. Here we go, Sam, thinks as she looks at the shocked faces of her “almost” family.

"Did...did this little...peace of shit...just said that you should...commit suicide?" Tony says angry.

" I'M GOING TO KILL THIS LITTLE SHIT!" Thor yells angry as he grips his hammer angrily.

"Get in line," Alexa says.

"I'm gonna help you with that," Clint tells her.

"Me too," Pietro adds growling.

Even though Steve is not okay with killing children or civilians in general but only this time he'd make an exception.

Bruce takes a few deep breaths to calm himself down.

"Come on, guys. You can't just kill a little idiotic boy...besides, it wasn't the first time someone said this to me...or called me names like „freak" or„Monster"," Sam says shrugging and mentally facepalmed herself.

"Sam..." Nat says with a calmly but angry and deadly voice.

Sam feels the shivers run through her body as she looks at Nat.

"Where is this sucka now?" Nat asks further. [1]

"Ehh, probably dead," Sam says unsure.

"Good," Wanda says which slightly shocks Sam.

Natasha nods before she leans back slightly relaxed again.

Samantha looked at them angrily as they walk away laughing.

"Sam!" A young boys voice yelled her name.

Samantha immediately turned around with a smile, the anger inside her immediately melted away.

The little boy ran up to her.

"Where were you? I was looking everywhere for you," He said grinning.

"I...I was walking around...and while walking around. I found something for you," Sam said as she took a Comic out of her shirt and gave it to him.

"A Superhero Comic! Wow! Thanks!" Jack said and hugged her happily.

"Aww," Everyone exclaims.

Sam looks with a small sad smile at the screen.

"Hey! There you are. Come on, it's dinner time you two," An older lady said as she walked closer to them.

"Karla look what my sister found for me?!" Jack yelled and showed her the Comic.

"A Comic, wow. Your sister spoils you, soon you'll become a Superhero yourself and that's only because of your sister," The old Lady named Karla said and smiled towards Sam who had a sheepish grin on her lips.

"Now, go. Your sister is going to help me put the toys away right, little Sammy?" Karla said with a soft smile.

"Of course, miss Karla," Sam said as Jack ran off.

"And when I call you little Sammy you lose your temper," Tony says teasingly.

"She is the only one who is...was allowed to call me that....and I do not lose my temper," Sam says.

"So, you stole the Comic again, huh?" Karla asked Sam as they started to put away the toys.

"No, I didn't," Sam said with a small blush.

"Of course you didn't. You know usually, you would be scolded for stealing. But I'll close my eyes on it, again," Karla said and messed up Sams's hair. "Your brother is lucky to have you."

Sam smiled at her.

[At night]

"Sammy?" Jack asked quietly.

"Hmm?"Sam looked at him tiredly.

"Do you think I would be a great Superhero?" He asked her.

"You would be the best Superhero," She answered grinning.

Jack grinned at her before frowning slightly.

"Do you think we will ever be adopted?" Jack asked her.

"Someday...probably," Sam said.

"Tim was adopted yesterday and now all my friends are gone," Jack said sadly.

"Well, you have me," Sam said with a small smile.

"Sam, we always gonna be together right?" Jack asked her.

"Of course we will. I promise you that," Sam said.

[Time Skip]

"Jack?"Sam walked around the Orphanage looking for Jack.

"Hey! You little runt! Watch were you're going!" She heared someone yell.

She looked in the direction of the voice and saw how a few boys were pushing Jack around.

"Goddamit! This vhole Orphanage is full of little shits!" Pietra exclaims angrily.

"Hey! Not completely full," Sam says.

"Did the adults didn't saw this happen? And did they ever done something to stop it?" Steve asks her.

"No...or at least I was the one who was punished the most of the time...cause you know me being a freak," Sam says, "Only miss Klara was the one who believed me and who treated me as a human being and not as a...monster,"

Alexa tries to calm herself down it's very rare for her to be angry. But the things that she sees on the screen makes her blood boil.

Nat puts her arm around her.

Sam froze for a moment before her eyes turned black and she walks towards them with a deadly expression.

Sam shudders slightly at her own deadly expression. Jeez, is that how I look when I'm angry? No wonder that people call me a monster.

One boy was about to punch Jack but Sam pushed them away and stood between them.

"Don't touch him!" She said in a deadly voice.

"Or what?" They said as the took a step towards her.

Sam notices how everyone tenses up slightly as they see the group coming towards her.

"Please, tell me that they didn't touch you...or your brother," Wanda looks at her.

"Don't worry, they didn't. I mean it," Sam says softly trying to calm everyone down.

Sam glared at them with her deadly black eyes.

She growled at them and a few very sharp fangs were seen in her mouth.

The boys took a step back startled as they noticed how angry Sam looked at them.

"Sammy?"Jack called her slightly scared.

Sam looked at him and her anger melts away immediately. Her eyes turned green again and her fangs disappeared.

"Are you okay?" She asked him calmly.

"Is it me or do you seem calmer here?" Clint points out.

"I only saw Wanda being able to calm her down so fast...and that's only after they started dating," Alexa says.

"That's true before that she was only able to calm her down while messing with her head," Tony adds.

"Guys, you do know that we're sitting right here, right?" Sam asks them.

"Well, before that it was almost impossible to calm her down. She went berserk for almost a month once. So, we had to keep her closed in an isolated room," Clint says.

"But why can Jack and Wanda calm her down while no one of us can?" Nat asks curiously.

"Eh...guys?" Sam tries to catch their attention.

"Well, she loves both of them," Clint says.

"Does that mean that she doesn't love us? Or not as much as them?" Pietro says playfully pouting.

"I guess so," Alexa says shrugging. "But why though?"

"Maybe, because they're not ignoring me when I'm in the room?!" Sam says slightly pissed.

"Ahh! There's a short temper again," Pietro says grinning.

"Shut up you overgrown Sonic! I do not have a short temper!" Sam exclaims.

A few people laugh at Pietro's new nickname while Pietro looks at her shocked.

Sam crosses her arms and smirks at him slightly.

"I'm fine," Jack answered smiling at her.

"D-Did you just saw h-how she looked at us?" A boy asked.

"Y-Yeah, she is really an m-monster!" Another one added.

"More like a demon! H-Her black eyes and fangs. She is a beast!" Another kid added.

Sam looked around at the kids who now called her names like "Monster", "Demon", "Best" and so on.

Samantha looks at her hands she refuses to look at the pitty looks of the others.

"Sam?" Wanda asks her softly but Samantha refuses to look at her.

"Just keep watching," Sam mumbles quietly.

Wanda caresses Sam's arm gently and kisses her cheek.

"What's going on here?!" An older lady yelled but this wasn't Karla this Lady looked very angry and didn't have the happy twinkle in her eyes.

"Sam tried to use her powers on us. She is a monster!" The boys yelled and pointed at her.

"Again?!You little freak! I swear if it weren't for Lady Karla I would kick your ass out of here! Come on!" The lady yelled at her.

She took her arm and pulled her after her.

"Sammy!"Jack yelled after her.

"What is she doing? Where is she taking you?!" Nat asks Sam.

Sam doesn't answeres she stares sat the screen.

"Sam?" Pietro asks her.

"You'll see," Sam says in an emotionless tone.

Everyone looks at the screen highly concerned except for Sam who has an emotionless look on her face.

A loud slap was heard through behind closed door and a painful yell.

"....Sam? Vhat exactly did she did to you?" Wanda asks her almost in tears.

Sam looks at her and frowns at her expression. "She was punishing me," She says calmly.

"Punishing you? For vhat?"Pietro asks her.

"For being a freak, for being amonster....for being born," She answeres.

Everyone's looking at her horrified.

"...And the worst thing is...At some point, I even believed I deserved it," Sam says looking at her hands.

"No, you didn't," Wanda mutters quietly as she holds Sam closer to her.

The "Punishment" went for a few minutes and all of the Avengers had a deadly look in their eyes.

[At night]

It was a quiet night. Everyone was fast asleep.

Sam sat up suddenly and hissed slightly.

She looked around everyone was asleep including her brother, who was asleep next to her.

Sam sniffed a bit and her eyes widened as she saw smoke coming from underneath the door.

"Jacky! Jacky! Wake up!" She shook her brother awake.

"Hmm? What is it, Sammy? What's that smell?" He asked as he rubbed his eyes tiredly.

"I don't know... but it's smell like...somethings on fire," Sam said.

"Sam...please, don't tell me...," Bruce says worried as he looks at her.

Sam doesn't answer she's really worried that the other will flip out and smash the screen.

Suddenly a loud screaming was heared and everyone jumped up in the sleeping room.

"What's going on?" A kid asked.

"I don't know!" Another exclaimed scared.

One kid walked towards the door and opened it.

A big fire flame burst through the door setting the kid on fire.

"Oh, my god!" Everyone exclaimed as the looked at it.

Almost all of the kids yelled or squealed scared.

Panik broke out and the kids tried to run out of the door.

"Sam! What are we going to do Sam! Are we going to die?!" Jack asks her in tears.

Sam looked at the fire completely shocked by what she just saw.

"That's not the time to freeze Sam!" Clint yells at her through the screen.

"Move! Get your ass out of there!" Tony yells.

Everyone is yelling at the screen except for Sam and Wanda.

Sam looks at her Family completely freaking out even though she is right there.

Wanda tightens her grip on Sam's hand while she still stares at the screen with wide eyes.

"No, we won't! Come on, we have to get out off here!" She said as she took his hand and tried to go through the panicking crowd.

"Yes! Move your ass!" Pietro exclaims.

They both were running through the Orphanages towards the exit. Thick Smoke and big, hot flames surrounded them.

The other children were yelling and crying but the only thing that Sam could hear was her own heart beating.

She tightened her grip on Jacks's hand slightly.

Suddenly she heard a cracking sound and she looked up.

She saw a wooden beam fall towards her and Jack. She quickly pushed him out of the way.

The wooden beam fell down on them.

"NO!" Everyone exclaims loudly as a few of them jump out of their seats.

So, here it is! The first (real) Chapter.

I hope you liked it.

[1] sucka (RUS) = Bitch

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AD F0F 1 4 000 6 |0 56 A Dream _ _ _ For 0ne Fantasy PAGE 1 & 2 Ekko: I dreamed the other night that I was Peter Parker, trying to figure out whether Tony Stark was really gone, or if I'd just imagined everything that had happened. I've a puzzle before me, you see: "Solve the mystery, the mishap, of Tony Stark's untimely death WITHOUT becoming a dirty, no-good necromancer." The more I look at that event, the less sense it makes. It's true that I don't have all of the pieces, but from here onward, any meaning that is created around that event within Earth 616 will only feel like a retcon. It's become clear that I can no longer abide by canonical events in order to reenter that world. It feels as though I've lost another home.

Once upon a time...

Peter. You're-- Like you, yes. Enter: Gwen, Teacher of Lost

PAGE 3 A. Gwen: You coming? Peter: To...? Gwen: We'll explain on the way. Baymax: Remenber who you are!

Sora: So there's this group of people called 'Spectators,' and-- Enter: Sora, Teacher of Found Gwen: Though we should mention it's a bit difficult to make the right jump. Peter: Right jump? Hey, are we really doing this? Miles: Oh, we're doing this. Gwen: Aim with your head--it's where your eyes are. Sora: But also aim with your heart--it'll tell you where to strike. Ekko: Now, aiming for a parallel universe is nigh-impossible. Enter: Ekko, taking the form and voice of BMO Peter: What's that? And why does it sound like a very familiar sentient, animated, video game console system? Gwen: Ekko. It's the gate we're trying to fix. Half of Spectator-Prime has had difficulty reentering after the events of Endgame--the events you've experienced. Ekko: Our lovely assistant, Vanellope, drew a golden ticket when she stumbled upon the internet, since information there is essentially immortal. Vanellope: Heya!

PAGE 4 B. Gwen: If at first you DO succeed, you'll more likely run into something completely different from our own universe--life never arose, the color spectrum is so unique your eyes don't pick up on ANY of it, time doesn't flow in a consistent or linear pattern, everyone is just a BIT off-human, and so forth. Sora: We want to aim for the one that's so close to ours save one... pivotal... choice. Gwen: And Peter, just so you know, you might not feel the same way about what's happened in your world when you come back out. Got it? Peter, internally: I just want to see it, just want to know it exists...

C. Vanellope: Pleasure to meetcha! I'm the ghost of Christmas Presents! Kidding. I'm only here to talk some sense into you. And by sense, I mean I don't know what I'm about to tell you, because interdimensional earpieces are a fairly recent development across realities.

D. Maybe not what was there before, but something new and wonderful all the same. Sora: I have somewhere to be; see you all on the Ekko-side!

Peter: Tony, where are you, really? I get that our world needed saving, but why did it have to be you? You were killed because of a failure on the part of your circumstances to accomodate for one of the first things your life as Iron Man taught you: not to glorify war. You died a hero's death, but did you need to die at all? What did I learn by losing you, or my uncle, or my father? That loss exists? How to feel it personally, rather than just conceptually? I think people romanticize suffering in order to cope with it, but that sure feels colder to those of us in the midst of it. What use is it, really, other than to prepare for the next? Am I supposed to become 'stronger?'

PAGE 5 E. Vanellope: Guess what we're about to look at! Peter: Something incredibly sad? Vanellope: That's right! One Tony who Found & Lost "They each died fighting alongside me, died while I was gone, died while I was incomplete... Through the Extremis explosion, through the battle against Cap's team, and through that final conflict with Thanos, I was left more and more alone." One Tony who Found & Kept Vanellope: He's not your Tony, but he DOES need other-you. So, we're going to give him a home with a version of you who also lost him. Peter: I wish we could do something for him, ourselves. Vanellope: You'll have your chance, friendo!

F Peter steals a hug from IM1 Tony in his workshop: Peter, let's go!

Peter: Maybe I'm not SUPPOSED to feel numb about this. What is scar-tissue but a lesser replacement for what was there before? People who deal with loss... we're not less-human because of our experiences, but we're not the same, either. "Getting tougher, growing up, leaving my childish needs behind..."

G 3 Peters MCU/616/199999 Peter (Time Loop) [(3), (4), Peter witnesses the alternates and is guided to acceptance] Spectator-Prime Peter (Alternate Timeline) [(1) The universe gains a broken Tony, as well as other fallen Avengers, with whom to heal] Ekko Peter (Alternate Universe) [(2), (5), (6), (7), The universe never lost its Key Figures, who were returned immediately pre-Decimation with all of their alternate-future memories]

H Harley? I J This way--I fell in. I thought I heard his voice, but I had to have been wrong. The way out should be just ahead. Watch out for plotholes! Cap, no, why!? Gwen: Pleased to finally meet you--I'm Gwen. Peter: Bit complicated, but they're friends--you ever see that movie, with the wormholes and then the time-travel? Harley: ... Harley: Which...?

K Ultimate Spider-Man Tony: Focus, kid. Alt. Tony: How do you do, fellow Earth-199999 616-ers? Gwen: Yeah, we're not going to bother with that version. Peter: I kidnapped him, didn't I? Gwen: ... Peter: What's up with these panel border things, anyway? Miles: I know, right? I see them EVERYWHERE, now.

PAGE 6 L Ekko: We were worried, at first. Maybe our options really weren't "infinite," as we'd been led to believe. It was entirely possible that there were only a handful of other worlds to which we had access. After all, even if our choices never ended, we might not have ever found the right one. There are infinite numbers between 1 and 2, none of which are 3, right? Additionally, we come from a universe, too, so we're not above any of these others. Treading lightly is one among many, but certainly not the least, of our problems. Peter: Okay, okay, okay, so my first question is: HOW. Gwen: Well, the doorways were something we found, rather than something we, ourselves, built. In fact, you two wound up here entirely by accident, too. There are several artifacts in your world which can, and have, in their lifetime, become doorways. Many of them are too small for us to walk through, but, put together in the right order....

Ekko: We managed to hone in on seven possibilities to fix the Spectators' broken world, and constructed experimental variants within each of them, which produced more and more desired results the further down the list we drove the timelines. It's easy to make copies of Earths Prime/616 and 199999 when you drop something new into the timestream just before the events you want to alter--in this way, you have a demo-version to practice manipulating. [1] In the first one we reached, Thanos never had the soul stone since Natasha died for it before Gamora, freeing Redskull. The only way to have bypassed this problem is (A) if a different guardian were appointed upon its return, or (B) the timeline in which Natasha made her sacrifice was not the same as the one to which the stone was returned. This is what Spectators experience as their reality, but it's split because Thanos never had the soul stone, among other reasons. We are left with three very similar universes, close yet distinct as can be. [2] A time-traveling Deadpool eventually joined us, having rescued and recruited a Quicksilver from your universe prior to his death. This was, as with Tony's and Natasha's deaths, as well as Cap's decision at the precipice of your timeline, also disruptively unusual. Deadpool and Vanellope then convinced Natasha not to sacrifice herself, explaining that Thanos would be weak enough that they could collect ALL the stones just before he destroyed them in the future. [3] In this variant, the Avengers' time heist resulted in a loop rather than an alternate, and, mysteriously, Redskull was forced to return upon the soul stone's arrival until the next sacrifice, which would have been Gamora. [4] Fourthly, we have Natasha's sacrifice which freed both Redskull and the Gamora of the future, rerouting the futures of each henceforth and preventing the snap at two contingent points within the same timestream, causing another paradox.

[5] As you see from these ridiculous panels, Deadpool and Quicksilver found themselves in Ekko again, intercepting Thanos at the crucial moments of the Infinity War as his growing power gained momentum.

M [5] Timelines: Power/Space Stones; Power/Space/Reality Stones; F-U, Dad!, Power/Space/Reality/Soul Stones; Almost got it, Mr. Stark!, Ah!, Power/Space/Reality/Soul/Time Stones; Power/Space/Reality/Soul/Time/Mind Stones; You should have g--, Yoink!; Time to get rid of the st--, Yoink!; Depressed No-vengers, Time-travel & snapback! Also, here's Scott!; You didn't see that coming!?, See? I saved him with my time travel, dumbasses <3 <3 <3 xoxoxo DEADSILVER! Wait, no, too soon... uh... Quickpool!; America's Ass!; Nat, no!, Later suckers!; Nebulaturnonairplanemode; Q n' Q In which both Clint & Nat fall and wind up with half the soul stone (friendship necklace) and lost half their soul, sticking together forever as a result (Welp. We both fell... I guess... we... both survived and have... a shard?) I guess... any other ending... is preferable?

[6] We begin to approach our most ideal timeline with this jump. Our best results at this point would come from allowing the snap, or Decimation, to occur, exist for three months, and to pull pivotal individuals--the Key Figures, who were killed by Thanos prior to the Decimation--into the future. Thanos indeed managed to collect all six stones and snap half the universe away, but it was only a short while before the half that turned to dust was restored. [7] In any case, several Key Figures were still eradicated from the universe, and the effects of Thanos's destruction still remained, so our next move seemed to depend on rescuing them before their annihilation, as in our previous attempt, and then merging the two paths of events to the point that the memories of these individuals, whose absence upsets the balance of the multiverse in at least one of the timelines we've explored, could act as save points. They were thus preserved prior to the snap, their memories of the alternate timeline where they either lost, were killed, or diverged, remaining intact. It was apparent, then, that Thanos's work, itself, as well as the dismemberment of the timestream, were forces that could not be left to carry out their work--at least not in the same way they did in Earth Prime or 199999.

PAGE 7 N Sora: The Spectators' world is not right, but time will heal it. Theirs is one in 14,000,606 that lost. They've chosen to accept your death in their own world in order to respect it, but not all of them agree with the CIRCUMSTANCES that put you there. You and Natasha both had something in common--it's what their universe will be missing for a while, and why their timeline seems... "wrong:" you were both "Found Family." They were cut-off for this reason, but it's their wish that your hopes come true, and that your life becomes complete in at least one world. You've been jumping into the fray this whole time--it's time you learn to rely on others. Spectators: Our world is shattered, but yours can be renewed. We don't need you to keep fighting--we just need you to have a future.

O Strange: But with the Hulk something else was sent back to the Spectators' world--a premonition, if you will. Enter: Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme? Strange: The Spectators made the decision to team up to save the fallen heroes before their time, and that's where we come in.

P Spider Ham: Yeah, guy, just literally look a bit to your right. Strange: Tony, the Thanos whom you turned to dust could not go back to his own timeline, and thus never ended up killing anyone else. However, because he diverged from his own, it now collapses and the path to your destruction in 616 and 199999 remains. Ekko-you will be preserved and remember this.

Q Tony: Here's the thing, Doc: Say you can get me out of this. Say I go home. I just can't help but wonder if the world would be wrong again when I return, maybe even in a way neither of us expected. If we're breaking rules, something's gonna come along and "fix" our meddling. Strange: None of these events are natural or just--they CAN be changed. If Earths 199999 and 616 can be merged, then you can keep your memories. The other-me couldn't see this reality in his prediction because of the cloud of inconsistency through which he was peering.

R Sora: The world you're going home to would be wrong without you. In much the same way, Peter 199999, now merged with 616, must live out his future with new loved ones, but the Peters from Ekko and Spectator-Prime will still be able to find you.

S Fury: Stark, should you happen to run into ME, tell him we need to talk. I've got my eye on you, and although I likely won't remember this, I know someone who'll make sure you do.

T Morgan: I was told to come and save you, old man. The eye of this storm is closing. They're waiting for us. (Other timelines begin to vanish)

PAGE 8 Peter: What's stopping you from rectifying EVERYTHING, then? Ekko: Our intervention is limited to bridging universes, and timelines within those universes. So, even if we could create events of our own (rather than merely observing or connecting them, as we do now), it would be impossible for us to make our changes permanent. Besides, playing god isn't so bad when everyone else has essentially reached the same level. Gwen: Time will eventually heal itself, and Ekko may reopen to Earths 616 and 199999. For now, though, Ekko and Spectator-Prime are waiting. Those lost-Tony timelines were too full of holes, so they, too, are eventually doomed to capsize and be rectified, depending on how far into the future they extend, and whichever comes first--whether their destruction or their healing--will determine your fate. Ekko: If it's an "unnatural" event, we're both able and within our right to fix it. The only way to "fix" realities, whether timeline or universe, without creating new ones is by merging existing ones at specific points to encourage desired results. Harley: Okay, okay, okay, so MY first question is: WHY.

U Gwen: Our aim for all of this? Align Ekko as closely to the other two realities as possible--the Spectators' world and the world wherein the Infinity War occurred--while simultaneously preserving the lives of those "Key Figures" we talked about--individuals whose influence, within their universe and others affected by it, must not be removed or altered to an unnatural extent. Ekko: Our job is to keep these connections open, to let no danger shatter the Multiverse, which could begin driving universes away from one another, because we believe that the benefit to having those bridges open is immeasurable. Stark's death was permitted in some realities, but not others.

V Gwen: Despite not being a part of the other two universes, your world needs the version of you that has gained closure that these other worlds exist and thrive. Harley: Isn't that crueler? We could have just gotten on without knowing all of this. Peter: I don't want to discredit what you've told us, Gwen, but Harley has a point. Gwen: We actually didn't mean for you to fall onto this junction. Besides, you'll forget. In time. But your heart won't, and that's the point--your world needs you for a host of reasons, Peter, but for that, it also needs you to have help, love and support. For your own sake, and not just your citizens and timeline, you must know that you are FAR from alone without your Tony. Spectator-Prime-Peter is safe and loved, and Ekko has everyone restored. Sora: The trials with me and the others intervening had to be collapsed for Ekko's entrance, as well, because we were still missing Key Figures, such as Loki and Captain America, who, like Tony, were right in the middle of their story. It was like the ending of a book winding up between chapters.

PAGE 9 W X Y Z Ekko: There were ways for some of the first heroes of your world to survive separately, in their own branch-realities, but they were still alone that way. There needed to be at least one world in which these Key Figures survived in their own timeline, together, including Tony Stark--one in which their story is complete. Ultimately, the ideal reality is a united one--the saved remember alternate timelines, but are now free of them by their own power. Still, they needed help... which is where we came in. Gwen: For now, though, the effects of their deaths will be felt long into what is now 616. I'm sorry, Peter. Peter: It's... fine; I'll be alright. Though, I think I understand, now, why you have to leave my world alone. Besides the holes and inconsistencies, there are still too many fixed points in my own recent history.

ZZ Gwen: But, hopefully... Sora: One day... Vanellope: You'll be able to reenter the Multiverse, and this time they'll remember you, too. Nebula: Something borrowed, something blue. Stitch: Broken, but still family. Peter: I'm really grateful that you were willing to take me through your plans, even though my being here was an accident. Thank you. Gwen: But...? Peter: It's like my head's telling me one thing, and my heart another. I want other-Peter to be happy, but what if it's wrong that I've seen all this? Back home, Ned and May are like my anchors to reality, and without them, I've been a bit lost on this whole adventure. Sora: Peter, the heart and mind are not competitors, but are strongest when united. All of the yous, all of the Tonys, and even all of the Harleys, are each living, breathing proof of this fact. There are people in your world who feel as alone without Tony as you do--it's time you find them.

PAGE 10 ZZZ Peter: I guess I was right in one way; just not for my own story. In some people's cases, death isn't the only teacher. I will always miss what could have, should have been. Do we move on? Do we accept the trading of lives? Maybe that's what's expected of me this time. But now I can put my conscience at ease, knowing my longing wasn't wrong or out-of place, and that there is another me out there who needn't carry more of the same burden, and instead moves on to a newer kind of adventure.

Peter: Instead, I can love those who are here, right now. There is no place like home. Everyone sort of caved into each other, into into the empty space you left behind... we've all become closer as a result. In the end, my universe is going to have its own path, with its own meaning. And it's up to me to roll with it, because there's a lot in store. Besides, my universe is four years ahead of theirs--and it's so, so different now. (aloud) We're essentially cut from the same cloth, but we're making up different suits. Gwen: Suits?

Ekko: What happens when you cut out the heart to keep the rest of the body beating? And what is "rest?" Is it only one thing to one person, while another thing to another... or can "rest" be paired with progress? Why shed the latter for the sake of the former, when they can be shared, instead? There are many ways to be a hero, after all. With stories, we can, and should, make the most of everything--salvage every event, extend every moment. Why should anyone miss out?

ZZZZ1, 2, 3 Harley: So everyone just made up? Steve: I'm home. Ekko: It took time, but they had time. The world was in good hands--even Wakanda and Asgard have begun to exchange advancements in their technology. The original heroes finally had a chance to be to each other what they were meant to be. Whatever positive feelings they all had for one another were forced to be put on hold, and in the end, they never got their chance to express them, until now. What's more, parts of the world, too, remembered their heroism, and the new, "Old Avengers" were celebrated all the same.

ZZZZZ Peter: And Tony? Ekko: He retired. They pretty much all did. Well, he's no longer flying around, but he still helps out behind the scenes--a creator, a director, and even a mentor.

ZZZZZZ (In therapy) Fury: I will sick Goose on all you fuckers if you don't simmer down! Why am I still stuck with this? I thought I was free.

ZZZZZZZ Bruce (having made peace with Hulk but not becoming a mashup): Everything just seemed to come together right after Ragnarok and Killmonger's defeat. Someone tipped us off, so we snatched the stones right before Thanos could get to any of them, then destroyed them with our newfound Hero Teamup. Scott: Avengers Squared! Loki: Or Cubed. Nat: But, even though we can still remember our sacrifices and struggles in the other timelines, doesn't that make this... kind of an easy, maybe pointless, win?

ZZZZZZZZ Ekko: No. It just means we're taking stories to a different level. ^_^

PAGE End Ekko: When I woke up, I wasn't Peter. I was just me. (0.0) (0.0)0] [0.0]

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Author's notes under the cut (meta as hell, bear with me):

i. It was unintentional, but I ended up swapping the Mind and Soul Stones' colors. ii. I began with "Once upon a time" because I am better at fairy tales than I am at action adventures. iii. As it turns out, the Spectators' World has to learn to get on under 616's present conditions through canon while still maintaining stories of their own. "You can wear the mask," and WE can be the Pre-vengers to save our faves from their terrible fates--we were sent a "premonition" (a movie detailing the events of 2023) by Heimdall. These characters remember the Snap/Decimation, but it's not part of their world now (both facts are important). iv. If you notice any blotchiness in an otherwise clean panel, rest assured that it's probably just my actual tear-stains. v. Read the contents of my tag, Endgame Critique, if you'd like a generalized taste of the ideology & motivation behind "Fixing Ekko." vi. I'm using multiple non-MCU characters because Ekko represents the "Gate" (specifically, the one I use, though I'm sure others have also stumbled upon & used it before) for entering fictional worlds. It is with their collective assistance that a kinder version of the "Broken Timeline," burdened by loss and inconsistency (wreaked upon it by a corrupt, four-headed god? lol, that's probably a bit too far), is restored. I realize with all of these extra characters, this might not be a proper fix-it by most people's standards, but I needed to get it out of my system. vii. I'd like for this to eventually incorporate pieces from other movies and perhaps even the comics--I've seen all of the former several times over. viii. This will be my very first fanfiction/comic. As such I recognize my lack of transitions because this is starting out as both a "Big-Picture" and a "Starting" piece. For this reason, I was hoping to begin a collab with any number of IronDad fans who wanted to hijack this story--you can tag your favorite fic writers/artists in the fandom if you know of anyone among them who might be interested. We could even just tack on pieces/snippets, whether new or pre-existing, that we'd like to see incorporated. Additionally, I can contribute the raw art I’ve created for this work to a different story, so long as a link is provided to this one. I'm also opening this up to criticisms and suggestions for changes. To ease your conscience, any criticisms you bring up I'll probably agree with and be completely on board with changing because I'll likely have entertained them, myself. It's just that, had I waited for this project to be perfect, I'd never have posted it. ^_^ The backbone to these works, however, must maintain that characters ("Key Figures") systemically removed in both Infinity War and Endgame be restored and/or kept, that they may, in their respective futures, be developed to their fullest potential--Loki-fans become Loki's writers ("guidespirits," if you're into that), Cap-fans become Cap's writers, Tony-fans become Tony's writers, etc. Wouldn't want to repeat the mistakes of a corrupt, four-headed god, now. If it's not our job to patch together the logistical mistakes we picked up on in that movie (and it really isn't), then we're free to spend our energy on preventing the whole catastrophe from the beginning. ix. I find myself a bit of a tactless animal at certain high points of each page. x. Any bear-imagery you might come across symbolizes love or prophecy. In fact most of the pieces are saturated with symbolic imagery--if you pick up on it, it's likely that you're not imagining it. I'm a sucker for "easter eggs." xi. I am eventually going to post an image focusing on just Tony & Peter (connected to this story), but I'm not sure when. My IronDad heart is the central force behind this work, IronDad was the central force behind Infinity War, and Tony Stark was the central force behind the entirety of the MCU. xii. The Spectators (us fans) have multiple, slightly different worlds (collectively referred to as "Spectator Prime," while my specific version is referred to only by its gate, "Ekko") because we each have our own version of these characters & the stories we've built around them. xiii. There was another scene in Iron Man 2 wherein a plane was hijacked and Tony saved everyone who fell from it by linking them together. I wanted to find a way to reference it to the Guardians' hand-holding scene/final battle against Thanos, but I wasn't sure how. xiv. I'm a bit conflicted to begin with, having made this--I don't like feeling that I've spat on the hard work it took to create the movie. xv. I "managed" this comic with traditional media and MS Paint, so it's going to have a few sloppy features, as I lack the software to make a Proper, Modern Comic. xvi. I threw out both traditional and movie-based time travel rules and substituted my own (if it wasn't blatantly obvious, lol). xvii. The playlist is very earnest and dramatic. Feel free to add to it, too. xviii. I didn't want to take all of the flaws and trials from their lives; I just wanted a future. Both Tony's and Steve's endings removed "Future" from the picture. "Future" exists with other characters, including the new heroes/faces of the MCU, but the human race is no hivemind; individuals die, regardless of their legacy. So what's essentially happened in Endgame and movies to come, in my eyes, is not the sacrifice of one good thing for the sake of another--it was ONLY a loss. My skill lies in creating a bridge for characters to cross naturally, should they choose. I don't have any solid plans for them to live out. I wanted to find a way for them to receive their deserved endings without feeling that I'd just abandoned the versions of them that got the short end of the stick for someone happier. It would be unfair to prioritize the fretless over the burdened, but what happened to most, if not all, of the Original 6 was also unfair. For this reason, also, the possibility of the MCU's future becoming accessible over time (to Spectators who use Ekko/believe the characters deserved better) also works with the idea that timelines, and even universes, can eventually be collapsed and merged, given time or similar-enough elements. As long as the new endings we conceive follow consistent arcs, they will be acceptable.

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SHARED HISTORY EP. 001 - CHER’D HISTORY

It's our pilot episode! Cass and Nat go colonial and then modern as they learn about two amazing women from American history: Sybil Luddington and Wilma Mankiller. Also notable: Cass drops her first Nic Cage reference, DJ Rip drops his first beat, and Nat drops her first teacher name. Let the bits begin!

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Sybil Luddington’s Ride Sybil Luddington’s Statue

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Sources for Wilma Mankiller story: Biography.com, WomensHistory.org, New York Times, Wikipedia

Original Theme: Garreth Spinn Original Art: Sarah Cruz

TRANSCRIPTION...

Rip Camillucci 0:03 Welcome to arcade audio.

Natalie Younger 0:28 Welcome to shared history

Cass Maher 0:31 where the points are made up and the history doesn't matter. Or so you thought,

Natalie Younger 0:37 yes, this is a shared history, the podcast where we are going to talk and just tell each other's story, a little story about history that maybe wasn't in your history books

Cass Maher 0:48 that probably should have been brought.

Natalie Younger 0:50 Yeah, probably should have been. I'm Natalie Younger.

Cass Maher 0:54 I'm Cass Maher.

Natalie Younger 0:55 And on the ones and twos

Cass Maher 1:01 is our producer, Rip.

Rip Camillucci 1:03 I got my full DJ set up here. It's about to get lit, y'all

Cass Maher 1:06 just wait till the beat drops halfway through the podcast, and we're not gonna tell you

Natalie Younger 1:10 it's gonna get turnt.

Cass Maher 1:12 It's a drinking game. Whenever the beat drops, y'all have to take a drink.

Natalie Younger 1:14 Yeah

Cass Maher 1:15 Please don't do that.

Natalie Younger 1:15 and then you have to call your high school history teacher and apologize.

Rip Camillucci 1:20 All on your way to work.

Natalie Younger 1:23 This is our first episode. So enjoy our wackadoos

Cass Maher 1:27 We're shaking our sillies out.

Natalie Younger 1:29 Cass and I started this podcast because we both are big old history nerds. And

Cass Maher 1:34 Natalie was going to write a book.

Natalie Younger 1:36 And then that was a lot of work.

Cass Maher 1:37 And I was like, 'No, you're not.'

Natalie Younger 1:40 It'd be a lot easier. And I'd be a lot less beholden to proper citation if I justtalked into a microphone with a friend of mine.

Cass Maher 1:50 Also, I'm picturing if the book was basically just like you're writing it out the way we're talking. Yeah. Be so incoherent.

Natalie Younger 1:57 Mm hmm. Yeah. And so I knew that Cass is a big old nerd. And we also have just been needing to hang out.

Cass Maher 2:05 Yeah, Natalie,what's our shared history?

Natalie Younger 2:08 Oh, I'm glad you asked. Cass, Rip and I are all improvisers and comedians in the currently sunny city of Chicago,

Cass Maher 2:19 the one sunny day we'll get all year

Natalie Younger 2:20 Yeah, and we're going to be inside talking into microphones during it. And yeah, we met, we met at a improv show where we played really obnoxious Minnesotan and church ladies,

Cass Maher 2:32 all of our names were Carol,

Natalie Younger 2:33 Yeah and it was magical immediately. And we were like, We need a Hangout. But we both over commit ourselves. So the only way that we could trick ourselves into actually hanging out was by making it a project.

Cass Maher 2:46 Natalie, I'm busy, I can't let's write a sketch show together, that'll be good. What if we do a podcast?

Natalie Younger 2:52 Great.

Cass Maher 2:54 So almost a year and a half after,

Natalie Younger 2:56 after we said we should hang out, we finally are hanging out at the not a show. And it's still work related. So the way that this shenanigans will work is we have both chosen a person or an event, I believe we both did people from history, and we're just gonna, you know, tell each other about it. I know for me personally, I was really excited about focusing on women and people of color in history, because I feel like especially in-- Well, no, in all history--I was gonna say, especially in US history, they're not given the page count that they should be.

Cass Maher 3:36 Yeah. And a lot of their accomplishments are passed off to your other people.

Natalie Younger 3:42 But for this episode, we gave ourselves a theme and our theme was women and US history. I had to remember. And yes, I did it correctly.

Cass Maher 3:53 Yeah.

Natalie Younger 3:57 So yeah, so we're just going to tell you a story. That's this is a story time with your friends Cass and Nat and Rip.

Cass Maher 4:05 the reason why Natalie is not doing a book, and we're doing it this way, is again, as previously stated, we're both nerds. So we like are doing the research. But also we are not professional historians.

Natalie Younger 4:18 Oh, yeah, hashtag disclaimer.

Cass Maher 4:20 So some of this may be embellished or maybe not 100%. Correct. But you're going to get the basic gist. And we're mainly just going to talk about what we

Natalie Younger 4:32 Yeah, this podcast brought to you by the internet and our

Cass Maher 4:36 subjectivity

Natalie Younger 4:37 and yeah, and our memories a little bit. Yeah. Mostly the internet and subjectivity.

Cass Maher 4:45 Kidsdon't cite this in a paper.

Natalie Younger 4:47 Yeah.

Cass Maher 4:49 Cool. Well, I'll kick us off.

Natalie Younger 4:50 Yeah, do it.

Cass Maher 4:52 So I chose someone who I had briefly heard about and only pretty recently, feel like you may have heard of this person, since you are kind of a history buff. Sybil Ludington.

Natalie Younger 5:07 I don't believe I'm familiar.

Cass Maher 5:10 Oh, my gosh. Sybil Ludington is a badass bitch. So Sybil Ludington was a young girl during the American Revolution

Natalie Younger 5:22 Oh was she a Daughter of the American Revolution

Cass Maher 5:24 One might say she was. And Sybil's claim to no fame was she had

Natalie Younger 5:32 That's so sad. I'm sorry.

Cass Maher 5:34 Getting real. She had a Midnight Ride akin to Paul Revere.

Natalie Younger 5:40 Okay

Cass Maher 5:42 but unlike Paul Revere, Well, I'll tell you Sybil Ludington's story and then tell you how Paul Revere didn't quite stack up. Paul Revere is a great man. But Sybil Ludington, kind of

Natalie Younger 5:55 Good hat. Great hat on that man.

Cass Maher 5:57 Yep. Love the lantern. So Sybil Ludington was 16 years old when she did her ride. And she traveled twice a distance of Paul Revere at in more in a longer time span because Paul Revere

Natalie Younger 6:13 I thought you were gonna say in like, half the time. Because when women do it, we get it done more efficiently.

Cass Maher 6:18 Well, it was kind of -- I'll explain it. So, she rode 40 miles, which is about 65 kilometers, which means nothing to anyone but

Natalie Younger 6:27 I'm so glad that you transferred it to kilometers. We are in the United States.

Cass Maher 6:31 I every time I every article that I researched, it was like 40 miles about 65 kilometers and I was like no one needs that.

Natalie Younger 6:38 This is for our fans abroad.

Cass Maher 6:40 Oh, yes. You're welcome.

Natalie Younger 6:42 Our budding audience abroad.

Cass Maher 6:45 So yeah, so she was born in 1767. And by the time the revolution hit, her father was a leader of their local militia. And they got word that there a nearby city of Danbury, Connecticut. They lived on the border of New York and Connecticut and they got word that Danbury was going to be attacked by the British and her dad being a militia man was got this Intel and was like we need to gather the militia. They were all home on their farms. And Sybil was like I can do it. So he's like dope.

Natalie Younger 7:31 I think you said this, and I miss it. Where is Sybil? Is she in Danbury?

Cass Maher 7:35 She's in in your New York. So it was called. It was called Fredericksville, the city she was in, which is like, like an hour north of New York City...by car which they didn't have, but they renamed the town Ludingtonville because of her.

Natalie Younger 7:56 That's a mouthful, though. They could have just named the town Ludington.

Cass Maher 7:59 Yeah,

Natalie Younger 8:00 like that's already a town name.

Cass Maher 8:01 Yeah. Like right there

Natalie Younger 8:03 Literally Luddingtown

Cass Maher 8:05 Full stop

Natalie Younger 8:05 What if they named it Ludingtonton and

Cass Maher 8:06 Ludington town

Natalie Younger 8:08 Ludingtontown

Cass Maher 8:09 Yep,

Natalie Younger 8:09 That's in the UK. That's 100% in the UK.

Cass Maher 8:11 New Ludington town. Yes anyway so so he got this Intel all the militia was spread out on their farms. And it was they got this at like 9pm so it's dark out and keep in mind they're in New England and so this is not like we're sitting in the the great all God's country Midwest, very flat very easy to see and know where you're going there like fully wooded and it's been raining. It's dark out and it's all muddy. And it's it's this is a hard ride to make. So she jumps on her horse, Star. I felt that was important to know the horse's name

Natalie Younger 8:53 Yeah that horse is a goddamn hero

Cass Maher 8:55 right? And they said she she had a stick, like a pointy stick. That's all she had to like prod her horse and stuff. And she rode she hit four towns. Now keep in mind, Paul Revere got to Lexington stopped and had a drink with Sam Adams

Natalie Younger 9:16 Like you do.

Cass Maher 9:16 waited for his friend. What is it, Samuel Dawes?

Natalie Younger 9:21 Yeah, Paul Revere is using the buddy system.

Cass Maher 9:23 William Dawes. Yeah, he was just like, chilling until William Dawes showed up. And William had the same message. He's like, you guys, guess what the British are? Oh, hey, Paul. What's up? You tell him about the British coming. That's what I was saying. So they hung out how to drink and then we're like, Let's go together. Paul Revere never made it to the town that he was supposed to.

Natalie Younger 9:42 Where was he supposed to go?

Cass Maher 9:43 He was supposed to go to

Natalie Younger 9:45 I don't know any of this. I'm trash with US history.

Cass Maher 9:48 Yeah, but but I don't know what the final town but he got intercepted by the British. Okay. And he was with his friend William Dawes and Samuel Prescott. And they escaped. Paul Revere didn't they confiscated his horse. So he technically didn't finish the ride

Natalie Younger 10:03 what was his horses name?

Cass Maher 10:04 They don't know because he didn't own a horse at the time he had to borrow someone else's like a hack

Natalie Younger 10:09 Just bummin' a horse.

Cass Maher 10:11 I want you all to know I think Paul Revere is amazing. But in relation to this story, it just doesn't.

Natalie Younger 10:15 He doesn't need it. You don't give him the praise. Everyone's like great. He gets it.

Cass Maher 10:19 So he didn't finish his ride. He took time to like hang out with Sam Adams. And then he had to walk back to Lexington where they said he caught the end of the battle. Like it's kind of it's kind of a downer. Great. So anyway, at the end, he was 41 at the time. So Sibel was a 16 year old girl, she made a 40 mile ride in pouring rain, treacherous mud woods that are really easy to get lost in. And she actually got intercepted by a British officer who tried to pull her from her horse. She fought him off with her pointy stick- with her stick. And the reason she had this deck was to you know, proper horse, which friends be kind to animals. But also she didn't get off a horse the whole time. She didn't have time to like, jump off the horse and like knock on the door. Hey guys, sorry.

Natalie Younger 11:09 She was she like rapping on the doors

Cass Maher 11:11 She was rapping on the door while she's on her horse going from house to house like dope British are here, y'all know I gotta hit three more towns. Um, and she has she

Natalie Younger 11:22 activate your phone tree.

Cass Maher 11:25 So yeah, so she gathered 500 militia between the times of 9pm and Dawn which I don't know what that is five 6am it was still dark.

Natalie Younger 11:33 It depends on the time of year

Cass Maher 11:34 It depends on the time of year, Did they have daylight savings time yet? Did Ben Franklin screw us all over by then? Yeah, and I'm looking at my notes. Yeah, so she fought off several British officers. I think a highwayman stopped her too and got 500 militia. The by the time the militia was gathered and made it to Danbury they, they weren't able to save the town. But by that time, most of the people knew so most of the people had gotten out of Danbury

Natalie Younger 12:11 So it was kind of like a ghost town that the British were invading.

Cass Maher 12:13 Yeah, they I think I mean, some people still died and they burned down a few buildings. The reason the British were going there was to intercept like ammunitions and supplies and stuff. So I think they were able to get like, most of that stuff out clear the town a little bit. And when the militia got there, they were still able to force the British to retreat.

Natalie Younger 12:38 Oh, cool.

Cass Maher 12:38 Yeah. into close to the New Jersey sound. Which you guys all know where that is. Yeah.

Natalie Younger 12:45 Sounds like it's in New Jersey.

Cass Maher 12:48 Nailed it. They were they were able to force them to retreat, which then is like known as the battle at Ridgefield, so I don't know that at all. But that was mentioned basically,

Natalie Younger 13:01 I mean, if Sybil wasn't there. We don't care about it anymore for the purpose of this podcast

Cass Maher 13:04 Basically, they did their jobs. Sybil was a bad ass. She was 16 years old. She had 11 brothers and sisters.

Natalie Younger 13:13 That's too many.

Cass Maher 13:14 So there's this really cool story of her dad was in there. This was before the ride. Her dad was like in their home and a bunch of British loyalists. 51 British loyalists were approaching the house to like, capture her dad. And it was just like him, I think they had one guard or patrolman. So Sybil like planted candles all around their house, and she lined up her brothers and sisters and had them march in like a military formation. So all the British loyalists saw was all these candles, and then like faint outlines of like marching a small army of 12 children, and they and they didn't so and then they they went away. They're like, Oh, there's too many people. We can't fight them. We've got 51 they've got a full troop. And that was Sybil.

Natalie Younger 14:08 So theatrical Sybil, the drama!

Cass Maher 14:11 Right. Like that's like, have you ever seen the Patriot where they like make all the scarecrows? Screw Mel Gibson. But she did that but real life and better.

Natalie Younger 14:22 It's like, but but for real and better. And without anti semitism.

Cass Maher 14:29 Woof. We'll get into that in a different podcast. Yeah. Also, her mom and dad are first cousins, which doesn't really matter. But I thought that was funny and weird. Yeah.

Natalie Younger 14:39 That's a product of the times

Cass Maher 14:40 a product of the times. So so she was she made, God, a 40 mile ride at 16. overnight in the rain. That's hard. And fighting off a British person. Just let me tell you, I've done that before, it is hard. And yeah, she was. She was thanked personally by George Washington, which was a big deal. Y'all know how obsessed with George Washington everyone was.

Natalie Younger 15:10 He was the first celebrity

Cass Maher 15:11 he was the first celebrity

Natalie Younger 15:12 American celebrity

Cass Maher 15:14 before they before we came up with our presidential system and everything like George was they wanted to make him their king. Yeah, he was deified like know, if you got to see him. It was like touching Beyonce. So the fact that he personally thanked this 16 year old girl was a huge deal. And, and, and then she just went off to live a quiet life. She got married, she had a bunch of babies. And and she died at age 77. And no one knew about any of this. No one talks about it.

Natalie Younger 15:51 That's a long life for that time.

Cass Maher 15:52 Yeah, right. Um her great grandson, or her grandson or something, was the first one to write it down. And this didn't get published until like 1880 or 1900. So I don't do math that that's almost what like 100 years.

Natalie Younger 16:08 Because they were at that point. I feel like they were like, oh, oh, but But Paul

Cass Maher 16:13 Yeah. But Paul

Natalie Younger 16:16 we can't admit that we were wrong and that we gave all the credit to a mediocre middle aged white man.

Cass Maher 16:23 and so her grandson wrote all this down. And it was like well known history in the town. Like they renamed the town about her. And then it wasn't until this woman historian and like the 1880s found about this story and published it and some magazine or article. And there's this awesome statue at the halfway point between her ride of her on a horse. And like the horse

Natalie Younger 16:47 Fighting a British man?

Cass Maher 16:48 The horse is kind of reared up and she's got her like, she's got her stick in her hand. And she's like, waving it and it's this awesome statue that no one's going to see because it's in the middle of Connecticut like wilderness. But God what a badass broad

Natalie Younger 17:03 That is dope. You know, I've never heard of her.

Cass Maher 17:06 She's really really cool.

Natalie Younger 17:08 I am admittedly very I am. I am quite literally trash with US history.

Cass Maher 17:13 Same

Natalie Younger 17:13 because our country's young and we study things that don't matter in school.

Cass Maher 17:18 Yeah. And then they hit the like,

Natalie Younger 17:20 sorry, Mr. Dolan,

Cass Maher 17:21 they hit these. They hit these like, these random highlights of you know, like Paul Revere has been mythologized.

Natalie Younger 17:30 Yeah.

Cass Maher 17:30 Also during the American Revolution, like, there's no way we should have won that war.

Natalie Younger 17:35 Oh, no,

Cass Maher 17:36 like we had, we had no troops who were all you know, like, like underground - ya know if the British like suspected you they would take out and so I feel like a lot of what helped us win was this like mythologizing and like, you know, the American Revolution was basically just like a inspirational basketball movie where there's that the coach gets, no seriously, it's like it's a buncha it's a bunch of ragtag group that shouldn't win and shouldn't make it to the state finals and then Denzel Washington comes out and he gives a "You Are Titans" gives an inspirational speech and it's - somehow it works

Natalie Younger 18:19 And then we all flap our wings. We all end

Cass Maher 18:21 Americans are all heart

Natalie Younger 18:23 And we quack

Cass Maher 18:23 And not a lot of planning. I feel so so yeah.

Natalie Younger 18:27 Yep, that tracks

Dude that's cool. Ludington, Sybil Ludington

Cass Maher 18:34 only one D which through me - that's not important, but

Natalie Younger 18:40 It's just just the one D

Cass Maher 18:41 is just the one D because the the town name was so long, they had to cut a D just to make it shorter

Natalie Younger 18:46 Jesus. Well, I'm going to go into mine now. Just because we're talking about Sybil Ludington, and what a what a proper name, segue to the most badass name, even though it's not for the correct reasons ever. I am here to tell you the story of Wilma Mankiller.

Cass Maher 19:10 Fuck off. Is that a real name? Or did she change it?

Natalie Younger 19:15 That is her real name. It is a however, it is in reference to a tribal military rank.

Cass Maher 19:25 Got it

Natalie Younger 19:26 And geographic region, but I think it's the military rank first, and then the region she grew up in was named for that. Because of her for her grandfather, neither here nor there. So Wilma Mankiller full name Wilma Pearl Mankiller, because you got to soften it a little. When your lastname is

Cass Maher 19:49 Wilma Mankiller.

Natalie Younger 19:51 When your last name was man killer, you gotta throw a little pearl in there. So I'm jumping, jumping forward in time, to the most of the story takes place in like the 60s 70s. But Wilma Mankiller was born in November 18 1945 that's a day after my husband's birthday. Not in 1945

Cass Maher 20:15 your husband's middle name is also Pearl, which is bizarre

Natalie Younger 20:18 is crazy. In a town I can't pronounce in Oklahoma,

Cass Maher 20:24 show me

Natalie Younger 20:25 Tahlequah?

Cass Maher 20:30 Well, I mean, it's got a Tahlequah. Yeah, there's no way I would have been able to pronounce it better. I just wanted to see it

Natalie Younger 20:36 The confidence, though. She's a descendant of the Cherokee Indians. And they were so there in Oklahoma, because they were forced to leave their homelands, you know, hashtag Trail of Tears, Forced to leave their homelands, to make way for white settlers in 1830s. So she's the descendant of the Cherokee Indians who were relocated there. And then she was kind of subsequently relocated, but she is the sixth of 11 children, big families on this episode, and she grew up on Mankiller Flats, which is located near Rocky Mountain Oklahoma, which I don't know where that is, either

Cass Maher 21:20 Mankiller Flats

Natalie Younger 21:21 Man killer flats.

Cass Maher 21:23 I can already see this movie

Natalie Younger 21:25 Right? You see, like the title pop up?

Cass Maher 21:27 That's like john Ford western action going on

Natalie Younger 21:34 yes. So So I believe that like, I believe that her grandfather, great grandfather had this tribal rank, and therefore that was his last name, or considered his surname. And he he owned like several plots of land and mankiller flats. So the land is indirectly named for her, not her for the land.

Cass Maher 22:00 geography lesson here as well

Natalie Younger 22:02 you know, just doing what I can. So she was she was grew up on mankiller flats, before moving with her family in 1956 to San Francisco, California, as a part of the Federal relocation act to move Indians off of the reservations and into large cities. Because the government can't make up their mind. They're like first Native Americans please move out of your home territories over here. You know what? Now you're all in this place. We'd rather have you in big cities. Let's move you over here. One biography said that they moved in hopes of a better life and they were a poor family with like 13 mouths to feed

Cass Maher 22:39 Also I feel like every history book is like, they throw on "they moved in hopes of a better life" to soften, to 'pearl' you know, that relocation forcibly

Natalie Younger 22:51 well and then another another bio a read said that was her dad Charlie's idea and that her mother Irene was not into it and did not want to go to San Francisco

Cass Maher 23:00 mom's always like "Charlie, I swear to God"

Natalie Younger 23:03 "This is my home Charlie."

Cass Maher 23:06 You wanna Man Killer?

Natalie Younger 23:09 All biographies basically said that, like Wilma didn't want to leave Oklahoma got it. Which I guess lends to spoiler alert she ends up going back to Oklahoma at some point. But so they go to California and hopes of better life but you know, guess what? California was still rough economically even in even in the 50s San Francisco was very expensive.

Cass Maher 23:30 California was never really killing it, I feel like California was a rough place for a long time

Natalie Younger 23:36 Yeah. No, they still were like impoverished in in San Francisco - maybe - I'm just gonna blame tech bros is even though this is the 50s

Cass Maher 23:48 Guys, check out this rotary phone

Natalie Younger 23:51 and surprise, surprise, loaded with discrimination against Native Americans. But reluctance aside it was in California that Wilma first got into activism. I guess I should have started with Wilma Mankiller is a

Cass Maher 24:07 Native American activist.

Natalie Younger 24:09 And the first female chief of the Cherokee Nation

Cass Maher 24:12 we are gilding so many lilies -- wait she was the first female chief

Natalie Younger 24:16 uh huh

Cass Maher 24:16 Wilma!

Natalie Younger 24:18 But, so, activism has been like a through line in her entire story. So they they moved to California. Her first like foray into activism was with San Francisco's Indian center and leader with, and this was a really dope story that I got to then go off on a tangent on, the Native American efforts to reclaim Alcatraz Island. So in...

Cass Maher 24:45 Alcatraz is so cool. I'm sorry. The Rock?

Natalie Younger 24:50 Great Nick Cage movie totally by him as a chemist.

Cass Maher 24:52 I love that movie

Natalie Younger 24:54 Yeah, so Alcatraz has been closed. The penitentiary had been closed in 1964. And been declared surplus federal property. And no, that was in 64, the penitentiary close in 63. And, according to the Treaty of Fort Laramie, in 1868, between the US and the Lakota, all retired, abandoned, or out of use Federal Land could be was, was by right could be reclaimed by the Native American tribes that had been forced out of it to begin with

Cass Maher 25:24 Hell yeah.

Natalie Younger 25:26 So in 1964, well, in 1964 a small group of Sioux demonstrated on the island for like four hours, and they were like, "Hey, can we have this back?" And then in 1969, from November 69, to June 71. So for 19 months, a bunch of American Indians from various tribes and their supporters occupied to the island, and like, lived there. Until they were like, forcibly removed by the US government.

Cass Maher 26:02 Shocker

Natalie Younger 26:02 So they were like, where there was,

Cass Maher 26:05 That's a through line here too.

Natalie Younger 26:08 Yeah. So they, their, their -- Their argument was that they that the Native American people should get Alcatraz Island back

Cass Maher 26:15 Because this in your peoples law, Americans.

Natalie Younger 26:19 Yeah. And they use the they use the Treaty of Fort Laramie as like their precedent. Yeah. legal term. Yeah, so. So this was going on and, and Wilma was was intrigued by it and like, kind of like inspired by it. She would make food and meals and bring them to the people on the island and raise money for their causes. And, so it was in San Francisco that she got like super into activism. But first marriage, she got married at 17. It was 1963. Her husband's name is Hector Hugo Olaya de Bardi. Which I just wanted to say but he doesn't matter.

Cass Maher 26:57 That is a fun name.

Natalie Younger 26:59 right? A lot of names.

Cass Maher 27:00 Hector Hugo.

Natalie Younger 27:01 Hector Hugo Olaya de Bardi. And they had two daughters, Felicia and Gina.

Cass Maher 27:08 Lot of great names in this story

Natalie Younger 27:09 Good names in this story. But it's all this....wait. Yeah. Okay. So she got super into the occupation. She was very intrigued by the occupation of Alcatraz prison. And her husband was like, "Hey, why don't you just remain a traditional housewife?" And she was like, 'Nope, I mean, my name is man killer. So"

Cass Maher 27:33 what do you think, Hector Hugo?

Natalie Younger 27:35 Hector, I don't gotta listen to you. My last name is man killer and I got shit to do.

Cass Maher 27:39 I do what I want.

Natalie Younger 27:40 I don't need no man. Also, they got divorced later anyway, which is why I keep saying he doesn't matter.

Cass Maher 27:46 checks out.

Natalie Younger 27:47 sorry, Hector. So she said, Oh, that time I have this quote, quote, "when Alcatraz occurred, I became aware of what needed to be done to let the rest of the world know that Indians had rights too" and this is when she went like all in on activism. So she took night courses and and like, got her bachelor's while working on as a coordinator for like Indian programs in Oakland public schools. And she did all this stuff in San Francisco. But then like the second she divorced Hector, she was like, "bye I'm going back to Oklahoma. because I never wanted to leave Oklahoma in the first place."

Cass Maher 28:21 Cuz California in the 60s suuuucks.

Natalie Younger 28:23 Um, yeah. So she goes back to Oklahoma and remains living on Cherokee reservation in 1977. And she brings her daughters, she's like "byeeee...she's like their man killers now, we're leaving"

Cass Maher 28:40 Come to my flats.

Natalie Younger 28:41 Yes. Come to my These are my flats.

Cass Maher 28:43 These are your flats now.

Natalie Younger 28:44 These are my These are my sensible flats.

Cass Maher 28:46 Everything the light touches is your

Natalie Younger 28:49 I imagined the light touches a lot on flats, not a lot of peaks to cast a shadow?

Cass Maher 28:54 That's a lot of light, Mankiller.

Natalie Younger 28:57 So she goes back to Oklahoma in 77. And resumes activism in Oklahoma. In 79, I believe is when we begin a trend of Wilma almost dying.

Cass Maher 29:10 Jesus

Natalie Younger 29:10 So, in 1979 she was in a serious car crash she was driving back from I think she was getting her master's. And she was driving back and had to like - from classes to where she was living. It was a long drive late at night. She has like what tried to like around a car or another car tried to go around the car and she gets in a serious had a head on collision. That like she was like in physical therapy and had to have like 17 surgeries and whatnot. But she lives, the driver of the other car does not live, the driver the other car is her best friend. So she gets in a head on collision with her best friend. And then after after recovering she was diagnosed with my my mya...I'm a doctor... myasthenia gravis, a chronic neuromuscular disease that makes speaking and simple motor functions increasingly difficult and can lead to complete paralysis. So that's like basically when she's kind of recovered from the car accident she gets diagnosed with that

Cass Maher 30:15 it's hard to be an activist when you can't talk very well.

Natalie Younger 30:17 Yeah. And there's, but there's, i guess i Cherokee vision of being of good mind which to Mankiller she took it to mean like thinking positively about what happens in your life and kind of taking whatever comes your way and and still doing the best to serve others. So she heckin' kept going. which becomes a theme it because she also had a kidney transplant, breast cancer, and lymphoma and I read one bio that said that she actually had to have two kidney transplants. So by the time..

you only got two of those

so she had no original kidneys

Cass Maher 30:51 in in the 70s

Natalie Younger 30:52 not made with original parts

Cass Maher 30:53 I don't want to get a 17 surgeries in the 70s

Natalie Younger 30:57 Yeah. Big ups to her brother Donald for the kids a donation. At least one of them. I don't know where the second one came from

Cass Maher 31:04 Donny, your mankiller but you saved this woman.

Natalie Younger 31:08 Aww what a great logline for Donny's life story. But this isn't about Donny

Cass Maher 31:16 No.

Natalie Younger 31:17 So after not dying like the first time, question mark, she took charge of the newly created Community Development Department of the Cherokee Nation. And the core of her activism in Oklahoma was kind of around what she called like self help projects. Basically, she would she would design projects that would for like rural communities that would help better them, but they were like designed to be like where you're going to help better yourself like this, you it's they would do the she would design projects to like get the community involved so that they could play a role in their own betterment and help solve their own problems and whatnot.

Cass Maher 31:55 Teach a man to fish

Natalie Younger 31:56 Yeah. The most notable one was a project in Bell, Oklahoma. It's a small village on a reservation where volunteers from the community helped construct an 18 mile long water system because they didn't have fresh water and repair dangerous housing. So that was the one

Cass Maher 32:13 was this woman just exhausted all the time?

Natalie Younger 32:16 from probably from almost dying constantly.

Cass Maher 32:18 Yeah. Hey, hold on guys. I have limited speech and motor functions

Natalie Younger 32:23 and every cancer

Cass Maher 32:24 let me get my masters also running rural outreach development programs with probably no funds and

Natalie Younger 32:32 and raising two, I'm sure, badass daughters

two Mankillers.

Yeah, two mankillers -- takes a lot out of you

Cass Maher 32:38 damn, all well thinking positive thoughts.

Natalie Younger 32:40 Yes. So the project at Bell, the water system, got her recognized in Ms. Magazine as Woman of the Year in 1987. So good for her

Cass Maher 32:49 it better.

Natalie Younger 32:50 And she met her, she met her second husband working on that project cuz I believe he was a volunteer she recruited. His name was Charlie Soap.

Cass Maher 33:01 So many good names.

Natalie Younger 33:04 It's a good name. It's a good-- Charlie soap.

Cass Maher 33:06 He should have taken her last name.

Natalie Younger 33:08 He was a full blooded, Native American -- full blooded Cherokee. And was totally cool with her not being a traditional housewife. I'm sorry, I'm hating so much on Hector.

Cass Maher 33:20 Hector Hugo.

Natalie Younger 33:21 But so all of that is just like that's before she even did what she's like most known for.

Cass Maher 33:26 Oh, we haven't even hit that yet?

Natalie Younger 33:28 We haven't hit her becoming chief.

Cass Maher 33:29 Oh, that's right.

Natalie Younger 33:30 Yeah. So she became she became deputy principal chief of the Cherokee Nation in 83. And then the principal chief resigned in 85. He resigned to take a position in like the some Federal Bureau Bureau of Indian Affairs or something. Something

Cass Maher 33:49 bureaucratic

Natalie Younger 33:50 bureaucratic and seemly, incorrectly named. And, and so. So she became the first female principal chief of the modern Cherokee Nation by like, just default because she was deputy. Yeah. And at that, I think at that time, and still, the Cherokee Nation is the second largest tribe in the US after the Navajo but yeah, so she just took over for him because he left for the other role. Yeah. So she had to run for reelection. So she ran for reelection in 87. And even though she had already done the job, had a hell of a time. Like faced a lot of opposition.

Oh, yeah.

Not for any like, particularly like stances, but just because she was a woman.

Cass Maher 34:38 Yeah. Cuz clearly she had done the work and had proven she can do her job.

Natalie Younger 34:43 She done the work at that point for two years

Cass Maher 34:44 you know that word 'electability' that we keep hearing?

Natalie Younger 34:50 Yeah, like her car is vandalized, she was threatened. And what's weird about this is that I guess like, in traditional Charokee culture, like women play a vital role in social and political issues like and women are women. empowered women are like a normal thing.

Cass Maher 35:07 Yeah, it's not a matriarchal society. But they are

Natalie Younger 35:09 No, there's like a balance

Cass Maher 35:11 But they are very valued.

Natalie Younger 35:14 So, in one of her in her autobiography, Mankiller argued that like European conquest, disrupted kind of that idea of balance between the two genders in the Cherokee Nation, and,

Cass Maher 35:27 and also a lot of Native American tribes believe in multiple genders, that there are multiple genders.

Natalie Younger 35:34 That's fair.

Cass Maher 35:34 That's dope.

Natalie Younger 35:36 so yeah, so she just felt that having a female chief was like a good - a small but strong step back to achieving that gender balance.

Cass Maher 35:46 Oh, that's awesome.

Natalie Younger 35:47 That they used to have traditionally before Europeans came and fucked up everything,

Cass Maher 35:53 man, we kind of did a lot of that...fuckin up things.

Natalie Younger 35:57 Yeah. Shared History: What did what did...

Nat & Cass 36:02 How did white people ruin this / How did the whites ruin everything?

Natalie Younger 36:06 I mean, that could literally be the tagline of most things.

Cass Maher 36:11 Most history books.

Natalie Younger 36:12 most history books. But obviously she won the election in 87. Ran again for reelection in 91. Won again. And then retired in 95. Because

Cass Maher 36:26 Girl needs a break! Oh my god,

Natalie Younger 36:29 she cited illness and I'm like, I feel like ill health... you, you carried through a lot ill health. You get to--You don't need a reason to retire.

Cass Maher 36:38 Wilma you couldn've use ill health as a reason to retire a long time ago, you're tired.

Natalie Younger 36:43 Like you've you've done enough.

Cass Maher 36:45 You did the work.

Natalie Younger 36:47 When she was chief she focused on like education and job training and health care

Cass Maher 36:51 a lot more of that, like, self sufficient.

Natalie Younger 36:54 Yeah, helping yourselves. She also worked with the federal government to pilot like, more self governance of Native American tribes. She worked with the EPA, and she, she, I love this, "She worked to improve the image of Native Americans while staunchly combating the misappropriation of Native Heritage."

Cass Maher 37:16 Oh my god.

Natalie Younger 37:18 Yes.

Cass Maher 37:18 That's a big task.

Natalie Younger 37:20 Yeah.

Cass Maher 37:20 Especially in the 70s.

Late 70s and 80s, trying to be like, "yes, we agree. We're important and our culture and our heritage is impressive and important. Please stop taking it as your own."

Yeah. Village People

Natalie Younger 37:35 Please stop buying your children dream catchers.

Cass Maher 37:39 Hey, Coachella take off the headdresses.

Natalie Younger 37:42 Yeah, I had a dream catcher as a kid. And I'm like, I feel bad about it.

Cass Maher 37:47 I went to summer camp, and we made them all the time with like yarn and stuff.

Natalie Younger 37:52 What a beautiful piece of heritage that you made...your traditional yarn dreamcatcher. But yeah, so by the end of her tenure, like the budget for the Cherokee Nation was like 150 million dollars. And they and the membership population had like doubled. And yeah, and then after leaving office, because she was like, "Guys, I don't feel great. And I've done a lot. I'm tired," and then retires and immediately is like, still lecturing. Still like, like, authors, several books.

Cass Maher 38:29 She's a woman who's like, you know what, I'm gonna take a break and focus on me. All right, I've got a rally coming up. We're gonna have some speeches and some outreach stuff.

Natalie Younger 38:39 I gotta teach a class at this local college. I think she taught at Dartmouth, that's not a local college,

Cass Maher 38:46 Of course she did

Natalie Younger 38:46 you know, small college, Dartmouth

Cass Maher 38:48 casual you ever heard of Dartmouth?

Natalie Younger 38:49 ever heard of it? You wouldn't hear of it, it's very small.

Cass Maher 38:53 Do you know what she got her master's in?

Natalie Younger 38:55 I do not know what she got her masters in.

Cass Maher 38:57 I'm sure it was some sort of, like, like, women's lib or like, you know Poli Sci, it was probably like a double masters. But like "I don't need to talk about that. I got work to do."

Natalie Younger 39:10 Yeah, yeah, she's like, "I don't need it. I'm just here to like, help you help you. I just want to help you help yourself." She received numerous honors, appropriately so.

Cass Maher 39:21 Thank God.

Natalie Younger 39:23 One of which being the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which she received in 98. So it would have been with Clinton. Yeah, there's a bunch of other people who got that, I think a Rockefeller got it that year. Because Rockefeller is gonna Rockefeller,

Cass Maher 39:40 Lean and Rockefeller.

Natalie Younger 39:42 Lean with it and Rockefeller it

Cass Maher 39:43 He worked so hard accruing his millions.

Natalie Younger 39:46 Yeah, I mean, thanks, as an art kid. Thanks, Rockefellers, for being patrons of the arts. Thank you, Rockefeller, specifically for the hit TV show. 30 Rock. You did it David Rockefeller. Thank you.

Rip Camillucci 40:04 Thank you for your address.

Natalie Younger 40:06 Yeah, thank you.

Rip Camillucci 40:07 Wilma Mankiller completed a master's degree in community planning at the University of Arkansas

Cass Maher 40:13 checks out thanks, Rip.

Natalie Younger 40:14 Yeah,

Cass Maher 40:14 Thanks producer Rip

Natalie Younger 40:15 Rip on the ones and twos and the actual facts

Cass Maher 40:18 beat dropped.

Natalie Younger 40:21 That was a--

Cass Maher 40:21 drink

Natalie Younger 40:27 --that was....that was a beat drop that we were talking about. It's just it's just Rip dropping a fact.

Rip Camillucci 40:34 Oh, yeah, we call facts beats here on Shared History.

Cass Maher 40:38 Hey, you got the beat on that? Yeah, let me drop it real quick.

Natalie Younger 40:42 Yeah, so that's, uh, that's Wilma Mankiller. She is sadly no longer with us. She passed away in 2010 of pancreatic cancer

Cass Maher 40:51 wait, when she was born, she was born in 34? 45

Natalie Younger 40:54 45. Yes.

Cass Maher 40:56 How old is she? What's math?

Natalie Younger 40:57 I'm bad at math. What is that? That's a 6--

Nat & Cass 41:01 That's gotta be 75?

Cass Maher 41:05 Sybil Ludington outlives her

Natalie Younger 41:06 Please hit the comments with better math than we can do.

Cass Maher 41:09 Sybil Ludington outlived her if that's it

Natalie Younger 41:10 Yeah, that's insane

Cass Maher 41:11 But also, she did a 40 mile ride at 16 and had plenty of time to chill after that. Yeah.

Natalie Younger 41:16 Also, did Sybil Ludington have every cancer?

Cass Maher 41:19 Probably not.

Natalie Younger 41:21 And like no clean drinking water?

Cass Maher 41:23 Oh, God

Natalie Younger 41:23 and or Well, I was gonna say or electricity but Sybil Ludington didn't have electricity.

Cass Maher 41:28 But she's good at riding a horse. No Sybil, you are awesome. And we thank you for your service to this country. Also, Wilma was probably just like, "another kidney? Cool. Go ahead. Do what you gotta do. Doctors. I'm working. Yeah. Can I have like a standing desk while you're doing all this?"

Natalie Younger 41:44 Yeah, I have plans. So can we just like Hurry up this second kidney transplant?

Cass Maher 41:51 I just hate hearing these stories. When it's like, oh, she was busting her ass and so overqualified. And doing the work and it doesn't even seem like a footnote. Because I've never heard this in anything.

Natalie Younger 42:06 Yeah. When I like i was -- i hate US history. So I was like, trying to figure out who I was gonna talk about. And I really wanted to do, I really want to do a woman of color. And I was like, Oh, I found so many activists are women of color in this country. It's insane. And also 100% justified and believable. And there should be many more activists that are not people of color because they need to stop doing all the work for us.

Cass Maher 42:38 Like a nap. Let me help. Yeah.

Natalie Younger 42:41 But uh, I started, I read just like a little blurb on her. And I was like, I wonder if there's like, enough here. And then I got into this and I was like,

Cass Maher 42:51 and Wilma was like, "hold my beer."

Natalie Younger 42:53 Yeah.

Cass Maher 42:54 Cuz I'm working. I can't drink right now.

Natalie Younger 42:56 Yeah, I can't drink right now. I have things to do. I have communities to rebuild.

Cass Maher 43:02 Oh, my God.

Natalie Younger 43:03 I have impacts to make. I have--

Cass Maher 43:06 and I have like several illnesses

Natalie Younger 43:07 tribes on Alcatraz to feed. And two beautiful daughters.

Cass Maher 43:12 and two beautiful daughters.

Natalie Younger 43:15 Who are also probably very smart.

Cass Maher 43:16 Yeah. I wonder what they're doing now.

Natalie Younger 43:18 well tune in next time....I do want to read, I have a quote because Obama issued a statement after her passing

Cass Maher 43:27 drop that beat

Natalie Younger 43:28 because she passed away during his presidency. He said, "as the Cherokee nation's first female Chief, she transformed the nation to nation relationship between the Cherokee Nation and the federal government and served as an inspiration to women in Indian country and across America." And he stated "her legacy will continue to encourage and motivate all who carry on her work." I just any opportunity to quote Obama I'm going to take

Yeah, Yes, we can.

Yes. We could.

Cass Maher 43:58 Oh, wompwomp.

Natalie Younger 44:02 On that note,

Cass Maher 44:03 Yes, we will. Yeah.

Natalie Younger 44:08 But yeah, I just, I just really liked that her story was one riddled with disease and great names.

Cass Maher 44:16 Seriously, can we recap some names quick?

Natalie Younger 44:19 Charlie Soap

Cass Maher 44:20 Charlie Soap. Hector Hugo

Natalie Younger 44:23 Mankiller

Cass Maher 44:24 Wilma Pearl

Natalie Younger 44:25 Wilma Pearl Mankiller

Cass Maher 44:26 Irene and what was Dads name?

Natalie Younger 44:28 dad's name was Charlie as well.

Cass Maher 44:30 Oh, yeah. And Donny mankiller and

Natalie Younger 44:33 Hector Hugo Olaya de Bardi and Felicia and Gina. And Donny, Donny and his kidney.

Cass Maher 44:41 Donny and those kidneys.

Natalie Younger 44:42 Donny and those kidneys.

Cass Maher 44:43 Wow.

Natalie Younger 44:44 Yeah, I'd never heard of her.

Cass Maher 44:46 No.

Natalie Younger 44:47 But that's what we're here for.

Cass Maher 44:49 That is why we're here to share history with y'all

Natalie Younger 44:54 dude, I-- reading about this too, also, like I went down so many rabbit holes because like I could do it whole episode just on the Occupation of Alcatraz because it's like, I just think it's really interesting. It should be the plot for the sequel to The Rock. And it's like so interesting and like and also sad. Because I mean, they're not, they aren't there. But still just, now it's just like a tourist destination. But yeah, I'm glad that like you did like a rebel because I almost did one that was more about like colonial days.

Cass Maher 45:33 Yeah.

Natalie Younger 45:34 I'm glad that like, it just so happened that you went colonial and I went within the last century

Cass Maher 45:40 Started with the colonizers and ended with the

Natalie Younger 45:42 Yeah, started with start started with the colonizers and ended with the indigenous people. With the native people.

Cass Maher 45:49 Yeah, you and I aren't huge history buffs or I mean US history buffs.

Natalie Younger 45:54 No.

Cass Maher 45:56 I think part of that is it's so hammered into us in, like grade school and stuff. And it's very much like "look at how great..."

Natalie Younger 46:08 I would love to study US history in a different country. Like I would love to like study. I wish I'd studied abroad.

Cass Maher 46:16 Yeah.

Natalie Younger 46:17 And taken like a US history.

Cass Maher 46:19 Yeah.

Natalie Younger 46:20 I don't know that. I wanted to that. I would care too much to take the US history. Like, in like if I had like, if I was like in London. Likfe if I was in England. I don't think I'm

Cass Maher 46:29 --all right. So our cousins got mad at us. And they threw a hissy fit. And we love our tea and they threw it all away.

Natalie Younger 46:38 Yeah, they threw away all of our tea. It was a really rough time for us.

Cass Maher 46:41 Yeah. No, it'd be awesome to get the outside perspective. I'm sure a lot of the bullet points would be the same, but the tone would be a bit different.

Natalie Younger 46:49 Yes. And I'm sure that like, also, yeah, just other countries of, other nations have been around so much longer.

Cass Maher 46:57 Yeah. Americas real young.

Natalie Younger 47:01 Yeah, we BBs

Cass Maher 47:02 Yeah.

Natalie Younger 47:02 I once student taught in -- when I was in high school, I student taught an eighth grade US...seventh grade? seventh grade US history class. Shout out to Mr. Cheney whose not gonna listen to this but if he did, I would lose my mind. I loved that man's class. I, he, I like student taught with him. And I had to teach. He taught US history. I wanted to student teach history. And he happened to be my cooperating teacher and it was US history. And I was like, ugh. But I had to teach you the Declaration of Independence. And I taught it as a breakup letter. Because when I was in middle school, everyone I broke up with I did it via note. So it seemed like it would resonate with the seventh or eighth graders in the audience to teach breakup letter.

Cass Maher 47:57 Dear Britain, it's not me. It's you.

Natalie Younger 48:02 we slid this into Britain's locker

Cass Maher 48:04 will you let us have own country? Check Yes, No or Maybe. They said no. We changed that

Natalie Younger 48:10 We're gonna do it anyway. Yeah, we, we crossed-- they said no, but they did it in a pencil, so.

Cass Maher 48:16 PS there's a map on the back of this ...bring it back to Nic Cage.

Natalie Younger 48:22 PS here's where we hid all of the treasure.

Cass Maher 48:25 Say what?

Natalie Younger 48:27 Tray-sure

Cass Maher 48:28 Yeah, US History was always really boring to me because we are such a young nation then it's like cool. We're spending like 12 years in school going over a little bit of this where it's like when you do you know European history or-- that's really the only history we get. You literally got thousands a years on that, so it's like a little variety.

Natalie Younger 48:48 I took a class in high school that was a golden age of the Mediterranean and we like started at like Mesopotamia and like went through the Renaissance?

Cass Maher 48:59 which you probably barely got to touch on anything

Natalie Younger 49:01 Yeah, it's just like--

Cass Maher 49:01 because so much happened inbetween that... cool. They made a painting, statues.

Natalie Younger 49:07 Big wooden horse

Cass Maher 49:07 Split from a lot of churches, bunch of schisms

Natalie Younger 49:10 Yeah we're going to spend one week on all of the schisms, we're gonna cover all the schisms in one week. I will lightly touch on some on some papal orgies in that. There will be there will be an episode of this podcast where I'll cover papal orgies. And then great everyone had the plague and now it's modern day.

Cass Maher 49:33 Cool. If you want to learn any more about this take a really hyper specific elective.

Natalie Younger 49:37 Yeah. Or watch Mamma Mia....to learn about the golden age of the mediterranean. The true Golden Age of the Mediterranean.

Cass Maher 49:46 I feel like this podcast is like the Mamma Mia historic, historical, you know, it's like we're going to talk about this but we're just gonna, we're gonna have fun. and maybe sing a little

Natalie Younger 49:54 and no one can see it but we're definitely wearing huge bell bottoms and platform shoes

Cass Maher 49:58 but there also is a strobe light where Rip is behind on the ones and twos.

Natalie Younger 50:01 Yep. And Rip is wearing like a real like plunging neckline with just chest hair. just magnificent chest hair.

Cass Maher 50:09 Yeah, it's...I wish you guys could see this. It's Fabulous. Yeah.

Natalie Younger 50:14 he's doing this for just for us.

Cass Maher 50:16 Yeah. He spent a lot-- he bought all this equipment just for this

Natalie Younger 50:20 Yes. All this AV equipment.

Cass Maher 50:22 Yo, great story

Natalie Younger 50:23 Yeah so that's the story of Wilma Mankiller. That's Yes. Sybil Ludington. I'm surprised I had never heard of because

Cass Maher 50:28 Yeah, because she

Natalie Younger 50:30 because she's a white woman.

Cass Maher 50:31 She's a white woman. She is like, I feel like she is always, not always, but it is a little more well known Female history. I feel like you can hear abou--you have a better chance of hearing about her. But it would always be like, there's this chick named Sybil, she's good at riding a horse.

Natalie Younger 50:48 "She did it first"

Cass Maher 50:53 Wow, we that was a lot of history.

Natalie Younger 50:55 Yeah, I hope everyone learned.

Cass Maher 50:57 Thanks for sharing.

Natalie Younger 50:58 I hate you so much.

Cass Maher 51:00 You said Wilma Mankiller wrote a memoir.

Natalie Younger 51:06 She has an autobiography.

Cass Maher 51:07 I'm gonna be reading that.

Natalie Younger 51:08 Yeah, I didn't write down the title. But shout out to women's history.org and The New York Times and Wikipedia for for being my major sources.

Those are your citations kids working on your papers.

Thus brings us to the conclusion of the first episode of shared history. Thank you for sharing this with us. Rip doesn't have his mic in front of him, but he just let out the heaviest of sighs.

Cass Maher 51:41 So, if you guys want to get a hold of us, our Instagram and Twitter handles are @sharedpod.

Natalie Younger 51:48 Or you can email us any corrections questions or suggestions of stories or events or people you want to cover in a future episode at [email protected].

Cass Maher 52:00 And the password is

Natalie Younger 52:01 Cass no

Cass Maher 52:02 Oh, no. We don't share that? Great. I should note that shared is spelled like

Natalie Younger 52:10 the word not the name? Not Sonny and?

I was gonna say it was Sonny Cher. No, it is spelled s-h-a-r-e-d. Yes, I wanted to do a Cher bit.

Rip Camillucci 52:18 Cher'd history spelled like Sonny and Cher will be the Patreon bonus series where it's just all Cher stories

Natalie Younger 52:26 and that'll always bring us back to

Nat & Cass 52:28 Mama Mia...on that, note.

Natalie Younger 52:33 Thank you and good night.

Cass Maher 52:35 Good night.

Rip Camillucci 52:40 Thank you for playing arcade audio. play more at arcade audio.net

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