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litnerdwrites · 19 days
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Cassian thinks Prythian would blessed to have Feysand as High King and Queen yet the dude can’t even govern his own territory properly. If he can neglect and disregard two thirds territory and justify it without complaint, from the ic, then he has no business taking over more territories for any reason! Do you know what would happen if he did?
It’s safe to assume that Winter, Summer and Day would receive preferential treatment. Mostly due to Mor and Amren’s ties to Vivienne and Varian, but also because of how valuable Helion is with his libraries and skills. However, it's likely they'd be extremely weary of him at the same time, for those exact reasons. Maybe they'd even convince Nesta to dance with him as a form of manipulation?
Meanwhile, he’d probably be indifferent to dawn, though their aerial legions may be forced to join with the Illyrians so they’re be able to fight cohesively together. It would also mean they'd be able to keep an eye on the Peregryns that way, with the Illyrians keeping an eye on them to prevent revolt, if Rhysand has any fear of that.
It's been mentioned that Thesan only has a 'small legion' of them, and while small doesn't necessarily mean fewer than, given that Rhysand's armies seem to be made up of darkbringers and Illyrians, with no indications of anyone else. And after what Amarantha did to them, along with how pregnancy is really rare for fae, it's reasonable to assume that their numbers have thinned even more, meaning that the Illyrians likely outnumber them by a decent amount.
Meanwhile The Spring and Autumn courts will be the new Illyria and HC. Or they’d serve the same fundamental purpose at least. They'd be the ones who suffer and are stuck with the role of monsters just to promote Rhysand as a hero/saviour/victim/whatever else he needs to appear as that week. It's likely that Tamlin, Beron and Eris would be forced to give up their titles and authority, along with whatever wealth they have, if not imprisoned all together for whatever crimes the IC accuse them of. They likely wouldn't even acknowledge the abuse of Eris and his brothers, simply chalking it up to him being just as bad as Beron and straight up killing them.
Plus, there’s no telling how the land would react and what would happen to the symbol or station of High Lord. If they are no longer leaders, are the ambassadors to the high king? Will that become an inherited position? I mean, given the kind of power the HLs have, letting them remain private citizens is unwise, while giving them power as aristocracy makes Rhysand seem like somewhat of a figurehead, bringing whatever authority he claims into question. Meanwhile, having the jobs of ambassadors or advisors be inherited positions based on who the land choses to give power to as opposed to skill, and ability seems just as dangerous and foolish.
All it would do is prove that Rhysand is every bit, if not more, the monster that they made him out to be. There's no way they'd agree to it, so Rhysand would have to use force. It would mean a period of civil war, before any semblance of order or peace was regained.
They'd have to Force Nesta and Elain into another war, even if they don't end up wanting anything to do with one, given that it's through their, or even mostly Nesta's, powers that Rhysand is to take his supposed to take this throne.
Would Varian still be able to have feelings for Amren, knowing that she put this idea into Rhysand's head, encouraging him to do it? How would Vivian look at Mor and still consider her a friend after such a betrayal? Would Rhysand and Feyre even care about the innocents that died during that war? No. To all of the above, no.
Typing all of this out, makes it seem like Feysand becoming HK/Q would result in the Nc basically becoming Panem. They even have a mock Hunger Games through the blood right, while Velaris is basically The Capital. Anyone who's watched/read THG can tell you how that ended.
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alicentsaegon · 1 year
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Rhysand : Acts like a tyrant for 500 years, tortures and kills people, and is overall a vile person towards anyone other than the IC and Velaris citizens
Rhysand, Feyre and the entire IC when everyone rightfully so!! Hate their guts and distrusts them:
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alex-catlady · 4 months
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HOUSE OF FLAME AND SHADOW SPOILERS
CC3 chapter 9 spoilers !
Last warning
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OK so disclaimers:
I love Nesta.
I also love Rhys, yes it's possible, yes I feel blessed.
I do believe POV matters, and all povs are biased to some degree. If Feyre has rose glasses for Rhys, and she does, Nesta has black or sth 😂
So, chapter 9 of HOFAS Bryce discusses the political system in Prythian with Nesta, and Nesta says THIS:
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Girlie... WHAAAT? He most certainly does not want that. Where did you get that info? Maybe your pov is a tiny bit biased?
Because THIS is Rhys in Silver Flames, with Amren Cassian and Azriel:
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Like I said, I love them both
Nesta dropped the ball a bit by saying that to Bryce. No biggie, just my mind made the connection to the whole discussion in SF. She's still an mvp and will be invaluable in CC and the next acotar books
Peace out.
PS: I would accept only one high king in prythian, whose name is LUCIEN VANSERRA.
But I think a high king isn't necessary, and it's a step back for their world.
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achaotichuman · 7 months
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I was so excited when I first saw Rhys in Acotar. Whilst I loved Tamlin with all my being (still do) when we were introduced to the Night Court I was all “Finally! A true villainous love interest, not someone with their morals all watered down.”
Then he pulled out that sob story, trying to dilute everything he did to Feyre, and everything he had done previously. ‘It was just a mask’ ‘I don’t actually want to be the bad guy’ ‘They’ll paint me as a villain in your story.’
Like man, shut up, of course they’ll paint you as a villain. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS HOT ABOUT YOU AND YOU RUINED IT FOR YOURSELF!
Anyway, if Tamlin meets with the Band of Exiles and they all start a rebellion against the Night Court for when Rhysand inevitably attempts to take over Prythian I will be cheering them on.
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booksimpsblog · 2 years
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People say they don’t want Feysand to be High King and Queen but then say Lucien, Eris or Nesta should be High King and Queen🤦🏻‍♀️
Wtf, if anyone is going to be High King then it’s Rhys and Feyre as High Queen!!!
I mean have you ever read the books???
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starrbirrd · 2 years
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"Cut her."
Two words, barely more than a whisper. Almost quiet enough to get lost underneath the crying and praying and pleading.
Almost, but not quite, all eyes in the room suddenly focusing on Rhysand with a mixture of emotions behind them. Shock, sorrow, outrage. But he didn't turn his own gaze away from Majda, who grimaced at his answer.
'Your wife, or your heir. You will not have both.'
"Rhys-" Mor began, discomfort palpable. He only held up a hand, however, silencing her easily. Tension lined his body- the scent of Feyre's blood would be saturated in the walls for weeks. They were on borrowed time.
"It's what she would choose. Our son is who she would choose. Cut her."
One beat.
Another.
Chaos, suddenly, the noise increasing tenfold as everyone fought to let their opinion be heard. Louder than all of that, though, slicing through the cacophony, was a snarl so vicious it sounded more animal than fae.
Elain.
Elain, not Nesta, had her teeth bared in a snarl, feet planted firmly in front of Feyre's birthing bed.
"You will not touch her."
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dasyr0se-blog · 2 years
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Rhysand is a good ruler. But only for Velaris.
Now, I have only read the first three books (and had a glimpse and saw a lot of spoilers of the other two) so a few informations may be mentioned, even though I didn't read it, and a few won't be here. So if I said something wrong or you think something is worth adding, please tell me.
Is well known that Rhys "adores" the Night Court and sacrificed himself to 50 years under Amarantha's thumb for their safety. But let's look more deeply into this.
The others High Lods, instead of doing the same as Rhys, fought with everything they had until they couldn't anymore, and even so, they kept going, for the sake of their people, court and family. I have no intentions of criticizing Rhys' ways of protection, but I cannot accept that he actually cared for the whole court.
For those who read the first three books - like me -, and even the other two, clearly know that the Hewn City and Illyria have a bad management. Velaris, as is said many times in the books, is their perfect, protected and beloved city.
Velaris was put under centuries of "wards" (is that the right word?) for its safety. But, and I always wondered this, why are the other two city's not loved as much?
I understand that there are bad people in those city's, by what the inner circle says, they're all repugnantes and deserve nothing. But... every court has bad people too - and I think that concep is a bit weird, I prefer saying that there are people who makes decisions, consciously or not, and there still are the children who are so easy to manipulate and then they grow in a bad environment and that's all they know... -, there will always be bad people around, no matter where, Velaris has bad people, judgmental people - thereof theirs judgements towards a healing female and an ""outcast""; Nesta and Lucien - so why are they not treated like the others are?
They protect Velaris so much but forget that Night Court is not only Velaris. The whole Court has centuries (and I think even mileniuns) worth of history, but the only city that's worth changing and caring is Velaris?
Rhys and his inner circle never tried enough to make changes in Hewn City and Illyria, they said change takes time but it has been centuries and all is the same. Rhys spent fifty years utm with Armen acting as his second in command, why didn't she used the fact that nobody knew about Velaris on her favor? She could have started the changes in all the cities and when Rhys went back he could have picked up where she stoped and kept going.
I know they were grieving that a part of their family wasn't there, but that's how life is, it hurts but you have to keep going. They were the rules of the court, the people, no matter who, should be their first priority.
Hewn City has a lot of bad people, it's said a ton of times, but so has the others courts and you don't see the people being neglected, do you?
Rhys is not fit to rule the night court because he is biased, a high lord needs to be impartial, he is not. He may be a great high lord for Velaris, I don't doubt that the people there are happy and all, but what about the rest of the court? The females from illyria that were said that change was coming and it never did? Who still have their wings clipped and are treated like nothing? The kids that are innocent and end up being influenced by their environment?
Change is not easy, nor do people accept it without a second thought, but isn't he the most powerful high lord? Why don't he make them accept change, whether they want it or not?
Why is Keir still alive, why are the other people that have a part in making the Hewn City look cruel and vil walking like they deserve it? Keir is a piece of shit, but that he cares for Hewn City it's true.
And don't even get me started with Feyre. A 21 (I think) years old ruling a court as big as Night. Yes she has been through a lot, yes she has years of experience, but not the one that requires to be a High Lady. I am sure that all the others high lords earned their places as such. Viviane protected her people when they most needed her, all of her people, no biased opinion of who is deserved to be cared for and who isn't.
Viviane is well aware of the story of Winter Court, she understands it, it's people, it's culture. Does Feyre though? Does she made a initiative to learn about the Night Court customs, culture, history? She didn't earned the title of High Lady, it was given to her.
Yes, she deserved happiness, but there are limits to be followed. What about the people of the court after the war? Are they receiving assistance? What about the families in Illyria and Hewn City that lost a member? How are they doing? Do they need help? Are they getting the help needed?
Feyre destroyed a Court like a child destroys a toy because Tamlin hurted her. I will not excuse what he did, never, but taking the court down, letting it crumble to ashes and leaving? Getting praised because of it?
What about its people? The ones who died because of her foolishness, the ones that lost families, their home, who had their villages/cities destroyed by Hybern?
Yes, Tamlin was a piece of shit to her, and he deserved the consequences of it, but the people of Spring Court? What did they do to her? How could they go against a High Lord and help her? Alis did what she could, Lucien did what he could (don't come telling me he didn't, he did, go read the books again) and yet she lies to Alis and uses Lucien knowing that if Tamlin thought they were doing something he didn't like they were going to suffer the consequences?
That's not someone who deserves or is even apt to care for so many people, that's a spoiled child throwing a tantrum.
And don't get me started in the ways she treats her sisters, Lucien, and the people her family thinks it's worth nothing.
Let's start with the sisters. I understand that they did nothing to help her when they were humans, and Feyre has the right to feel angry with them, but.
They are all traumatized, Nesta and Elain just went through a war, Elain, in my point of view, has always adapted herself to what those around her thinks.
If Feyre and her family act like nothing happend, then that's what she will do because she feels guilt and wants somewhere to stay. If she doesn't causes trouble - has feelings - then great.
Nesta has feelings, and they are completely valid. She is grieving, she is traumatized, she saw her father get killed, her mother and grandmother destroyed her, and then she wants to heal, on her on way, she gets told she is not allowed?
The males of the inner circle get to fuck around, drink, scream and do whatever they want because they are traumatized too, but she doesn't? What's the difference? Isn't she allowed to heal on her own time? So what if she's drinking and fucking? She hurt, she's healing, she's allowed to be hurt, to feel hurt.
Giving her little to no time, locking her away like a dog? Inner circle is all about females having choices, were are Nesta's and Elain's?
And Lucien. Lucien who left spring with Feyre, who has always been her friend, who Feyre says is her friend, he gets treated like shit for something he didn't do? Couldn't do? And said friend does nothing, doesn't defend him, keeps quiet about it, and proceds to invalidate his choice of leaving Night Court to live with people that treat him decently?
What kind of friend is that? She lashed out on the High Lord's reunion like a child who didn't have control of herself. Azriel attacking Eris like he is not a full grown male with hundred of years old, knowing that Eris couldn't defend himself because of the magic binding the high lords to not attack each other and Feyre treated it like he was right?
It's time for them to drop that history between Eris and Mor, it's been hundred of years, it's getting ridiculous, Eris himself said to Nesta that that's more to it then Mor says. Wtf??
Cassian saying Rhys would be a great High King. He is not even a relatively good nor fair High Lord?? Saying that the others would bow to him? Who in their right mind would? He was part of the forces who destroyed the courts, he steal from summer, they would not bow to him, because he gave them no reason to.
Not Tarquin, not Thesan, or Helion, Tamlin, Kallias and Viviane, I hate mentioning him, but not even Beron.
Being respected? He is, all the High Lord's are. That's basic politeness. Doesn't mean he deserves more. He suffered? Yes, but so did everyone else.
I think that Sarah should fix this, somehow, it's not possible to her to be so biased towards Night Court that she will excuse their behavior? Behavior she wrote? 'M not having much high hopes but, oh well, it's the hope the last one to die, isn't it?
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shallyne · 2 years
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SJM should have made the King of Hybern funnier. A sarcastic ass bitch.
That whole "I am so powerful" thing was underwhelming but he was so there for all the gossip at the end of acomaf
He laughed at Tamlin when he realized feysand are mates 💀
If he would have stayed that way, that would have been funny af
Acomaf chapter 64
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stargirlie25 · 2 months
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i might be a Lucien Stan but unlike some people I don't want to see Azriel die for the sake of my ship.
Like y'all are vassiens but also say Lucien would lose in a blood duel?
Losing in a blood duel literally means dying.
The debate is so silly on who would win. They are both powerful. However Lucien has more advantages.
He has light and fire (both things that defeat shadows)
He broke free of the king of hyberns MAGIC leashes while the HL who killed Amarantha and Rhysands dad with ease remained leashed.
He is heir to the daycourt. Becoming HL means you have the HL beast form.
Helions beast form:
Amethyst light swirled around him. Helion growled at Rhys—an order
Leaving the commander and Helion Spell-Cleaver to go head-to-head. Spell to spell.
If Rhys was a flying terror crafted from shadows and cold moonlight, Helion was his daytime equivalent.
So what we know is that Helion using the high lord beast form, is equal to Rhysand. We know he ORDERS Rhysand in that form. ALSO the spells? In acosf Helion says he knows spells that even Rhysand does not. Lucien can easily learn from helion and use all kinds of spells.
No because siphons can never defeat a high lords beast form. The power the high lord already has is intensified in that form. Bigger. Stronger. More powerful.
LAST OF ALL the difference between Az and Lucien is that Lucien would actually be fighting for his mate. Its Lucien who feels the anger with the bond towards his opponent. It is Lucien who carries the rare feelings of the mating bond.
Anyways all I'm saying is Lucien would obviously win. Although he says in Acowar that he would ask Rhysand advice on how he survived knowing his mate loved someone else. He would sit back and watch if Elain fell in love with Azriel. Lucien would do nothing to stop it. He would just mourn after her for the rest of his life.
E/riels know Lucien is patient with Elain. They know he gives her space. So they think Lucien would be the one to entertain the blood duel. No. he. would. not. Why don't e/riels see that Azriel is the only one who entertained the blood duel?
I am fully aware lots of e/riels and gwynriels give the personality of Lucien to Az but now e/riels are giving his cons to Lucien.
They think LUCIEN has one sided beef with Az.
They think LUCIEN wants to kill Azriel.
They think LUCIEN wants to kill a man over a woman who said she is not a child to be FOUGHT for.
They think LUCIEN arrogantly states that he can defeat another man.
They think LUCIEN views Elain as a precious small docile flower.
This is seriously not an Anti Azriel post. Let's just say Azriel is not in his element when in regards to Elain AND Mor. He has the same negative reactions to both of them.
Coming back to the point of my post
Lucien would defeat Azriel
Lucien would not entertain the blood duel
Lucien would mourn Elain forever
Azriel is the only one who has entertained the blood duel.
Elucien>Smelriel
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nikethestatue · 4 months
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Spoilers for HOFAS Walmart bonus chapter.
I just finished reading HOFAS and the Walmart bonus chapter, and Az has a specific line:
“Nesta beheaded the King of Hybern herself.”
I’ve seen some anti-elriels using this as proof that Az doesn’t respect Elain. I wanted your perspective on this line (if you’ve read the book/bonus chapter.)
My interpretation was that by saying “Nesta beheaded the King...” Az is actually crediting Elain with the kill while protecting her identity.
Az could have easily said that Nesta “killed the King,” or “slayed the King.” But he says “beheaded.” This word choice seems intentional, to me.
1. We know that Az doesn’t trust Bryce—even though they’re having a fun moment in the bonus chapter. Ultimately though, he considers Bryce a potential enemy who could threaten his planet. And we see throughout the first part of HOFAS that he’s withholding lots of information from Bryce—including all mentions of Elain. And Bryce doesn’t even know Elain exists because she wasn’t at the house at the end of CC2.
2. Az has also learned that the Asteri—the Daglan—are still alive and could prove a threat to Prythian. Elain killed the King of Hybern, and she has powers still unexplored. The Asteri could potentially view her as someone to control and use. Or they might view her as a threat to be killed.
All that to say, I don’t think Az was discrediting Elain. I think he was trying to hide her identity from Bryce since he doesn’t trust her, and he was trying to protect her from unwanted attention, such as attention from the Asteri/Daglan.
Anyway, I was wondering what your interpretation was. :)
I basically agree with you completely.
Throughout their time together, Azriel kept hissing at Nesta, not to divulge unnecessary info. Or any info. I think it's in his nature to not ever speak in general, let alone to someone he considers an enemy. I think Rhys also ordered him not to divulge any info.
He didnt even want Nesta to be talking about the war itself, let alone any of the particulars! It's not like he went 'oh, and then, Feyre and Rhys reforged the cauldron! But then Rhys died. But then he was brought back to life. And then Amren was also dead, but we pulled her out of the Cauldron."
He never mentioned anything even about the people that Bryce met, let alone those she didn't. And yes, Elain is a full-powered, Cauldron Made being--why would he ever mention her to Bryce? She is already annoying him with all the questions.
I mean, he just learned that the Asteri/Daglan are harvesting fae for power. Why would he ever tell anyone about how much power his Court has, and who has that power. Like his Court has 3 Trove Objects, 2 Made sisters, one sister with the powers of all 7 High Lords, and the most powerful High Lord in history, plus two most powerful Illyrians. And then there is also Mor and Amren.
He is not going to fill out a ledger documenting all the powers for Bryce.
I think the fact that he didnt actually mention Elain speaks of him protecting her. Not disclosing anything about her to this stranger.
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bloomingdarkgarden · 1 year
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Lore rant
I'm rereading ACOSF Ch. 42 when the subject of Rhys being High King is approached and that conversation was so wack.
This bit:
"Kallias, Tarquin and Helion might be willing to kneel. Thesan will kneel if the others do."
Cassian nodded. Rhys as High King. He could think of no other male he could trust more. No other male who would be a fairer ruler than Rhys. And with Feyre as High Queen, Prythian would be blessed to have such leaders. So Cassian said,
"Tamlin would probably fight and lose. Beron would be the only one to stand in your way."
Like why is that so casual lol. In what universe would these magical leaders, whose very essence is attached to the lands they rule, be so chill with just ceding their leadership to Rhysand who literally everyone either fears or hates or at best, mildly trusts. I find one of the coolest elements of ACOTAR to be the lore potential with each court, even though its not really fleshed out. The ties of magic and elemental connection to each land. The centuries of history in each. But somehow Sjm in this single passage just made that potential feel even more shallow if not impossible to evolve. Also Feyre, who has been a faerie for 2 years, ruling Prythian hmmm questionable, sweet cass. I love her too but like homegirl just learned what kind of creatures live in the faerie woods u know.
I don't think the High King plotline will happen just random thoughts regarding world building. It would suck to see Helion or Tarquin be like ehhh yeah Rhys you can take over Day/Summer im sort of over it anyways, ill leave u the cliff notes on our nation's intricacies.
Like hell could I see any high lords being chill. Even if they aren’t anti-rhys, it seems like a reach. I know Rhys doesn't want it but yo, Amren, Cassian and Az were all on board.
Weird, sjm. Weird.
flesh that shit out honey.
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thecatsaesthetics · 8 months
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Feysand stans are one step away from being the worst. Why be so threatened with Rhysta?
If we saw the potential of the ship, why would we stoop lower with Feysand?
You Feysand girlies like to rant how we “hate” Feyre for shipping Rhys with Nesta when we’re complaining that if these characters are paired off differently, it would justify SJM’s writing considering how Feysand aren’t supposed to be original endgame in the series. It would even solve certain plot holes.
If you can’t handle that maybe all of you are just threatened that Rhysta is getting more popular now and you worry for Feyre losing relevancy because her character cannot stand on its own and is always attached with Rhysand. Sorry that your ship sinking. Advise for Feysand stans, don’t be an ass just because you don’t like or feel threatened over a ship.
Point by Point I will deconstruct this. First, nobody is "threatened" by R*ysta, we MOCK it. If you like crack ships whatever, but the seriousness of it? Rhys and Nesta would never happen. They aren't remotely interested in one another and they are incredibly different characters.
The reason why people say you hate Feyre is simply by how you make her behave in your fics (this goes for T*msand too) as the wife who's cluelessly getting cheated on or having Nesta flat out steal Feyre's character arc (becoming High Lady, mating bonds etc). Feyre does stand on her own, people love Feyre because she's an actual strong FMC.
Feysand was always end game, SJM has confirmed this several times. Even the newsletter people point to (where she says rewrote ACOMAF) says this:
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The romantic arcs of ACOMAF were the same in the original draft and in the final version. That means Feysand was always intended, and you can see this in ACOTAR where she has Feyre draw stars on her draw, seeing a pool of starlight in The Spring Court, and the scene where Rhys felt the mating bond click into place.
Even in her live the other night SJM was saying she knew the romantic plot points of ACOTAR. You can dislike it, but it's a fact. Feysand was the intended endgame and F*ylin was the bait and switch.
Also Feyre and Rhys are overwhelmingly popular among the fanbase. Don't confuse people shouting loudly on tumblr to true popularity. Most people who read and enjoy the books like Feysand. Most people don't keep reading a book series where they hate the main characters.
Feysands aren't bitter over anything, because at the end of the day it's the canon ship. SJM talks them up all the time because she loves them and has written them a happy ending. Feysand and Pro Feyre accounts are MOCKING antis simply because you are wasting your time and energy. Nobody is forcing you to read ACOTAR or interact with the fandom.
If you don't like Feysand, Rhysand or Feyre these books are not for you. SJM is never going to go down "evil Rhys" path or make it so Feysand isn't canon. Feysand is always going to be canon and likely they will end up High King and Queen at the end of the series.
I suggest touching grass and finding a book series you enjoy.
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acourtofthought · 1 year
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This is going to be a bit of an Anti Azriel post because I'm tired of seeing E/riels tear Lucien down because they're so desperate for their ship to happen that they need to create a version of Lucien that doesn't exist so they can pretend he's not a viable option for Elain.
Do they honestly believe SJM wrote Azriel to be a better male than Lucien (not equals, but better than)? Just because Azriel is a warrior which somehow makes him superior to Lucien, who is the younger of the two and still hasn't found his place in the world? Who is still searching for his own found family (which may not even be Vassa and Jurian as they may have a mortal life span?) and doesn't even know the truth about his father? Who is still developing new powers as the series goes on?
Azriel may have had a shitty childhood but at least his family did him a favor by getting him into training at a young age. Lucien's family never directed him towards any path. His studies, his training, all came about from his own desire to learn.
Azriel can't control himself and starts fights in important political meetings all because Eris said something insulting. That somehow makes him the better of the two?
Lucien wasn't able to do more for Feyre in ACOMAF because he was stuck between doing what was best for the entire Court, what his High Lord asked of him (a High Lord who was also a long time friend but one who also physically threatened Lucien whenever he tried to speak up) and what one female needed. Azriel was never even threatened by Rhys yet he was still willing to lie to Feyre about her pregnancy. Then Azriel even admitted that Nesta deserved to know about the swords yet he still ended up keeping it a secret from her. That somehow makes Azriel the better of the two?
Azriel, who is so jealous of Lucien simply because he was given a bond with "the third sister" while Az was not (basically Lucien was the final piece in the "three brothers" with three sisters" puzzle and it pisses Az off because he's the real third brother and he feels left out of what Rhys and Cassian got). Who has no issues with the thought of killing Lucien (an ally) or the thought of Grayson being killed while Lucien has never mentioned wanting to harm either Grayson or Azriel? Considering cruelty bothers Elain, how does that make Azriel the better of the two?
Azriel who stares at Mor with hunger and longing and cares more about what Mor knows of Feyre's pregnancy than Elain while supposedly being in love with Elain at the same time? That makes him a better male?
Azriel who was more concerned about Mor during the King of Hybern face-off than Elain as she experienced the most traumatic event of her life over Lucien who broke free of his restraints to go to Elain's side. That somehow makes Az the better of the two for Elain?
Azriel who offered to show Elain the garden only after Lucien suggested it. Azriel who offered Elain TT only after Cassian first offered her a weapon. Azriel who said he was getting Elain back only after Cassian first said they'd get Elain back, that makes him a better male?
Azriel who has never thought of a future with Elain and thinks she can't handle anything dangerous even though he was witness to her handling a dangerous situation. That makes him a better male?
The author has put Lucien in every single one of her books and always intended for him to have a Mate which she has spoken of in interviews. He was always destined to be someone in the series.
It is canon that multiple characters comment on how intelligent Lucien is yet I don't really remember anyone regularly commenting on Azriel’s intelligence. That's not to say Az isn't intelligent however Lucien definitely is.
It is canon that Lucien shows restraint in various situations yet Azriel is never written to be very good at restraint.
It is canon that Amren, a 15,000 year old character who has seen some stuff (meaning she knows a little about what she's talking about) suggests Lucien be made High Lord (pages after meeting him for the first time) while she refers to Azriel as a "dog" (after knowing him for centuries).
Claiming Lucien is weak is ignoring the fact that SJM wrote in SF that he is developing the ability to command someone with a single word. That she is giving him the dominance that only a High Lord possesses which forces others to bow to their orders. That he is someone the members of the IC look to in order to help them obtain information. No, he didn't start the series that way but Feyre didn't start the series being the powerful High Lady she is today. The fact that SJM started him being the friend of a High Lord who wasn't as powerful yet has continued to build his character into someone that can stand equal to other High Lords shows how "not weak" Lucien is and is becoming.
Sure she's excited to write Azriel’s story but she has said Lucien is one of her favorite characters. What good is it doing someone to try to make him "less than" when the author herself says the opposite?
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✨assigning taylor swift songs to each of my acotar ocs✨
this is purely self indulgent. ignore this if you want lol i just thought it would be fun. i'll also add who the song would be about in their lives
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ASTRAEA her story: ao3 // wattpad
Songs Castles Crumbling Nothing New my tears ricochet Anti-Hero The Great War
About Nesta The Way I Loved You Jump Then Fall Untouchable Come in With the Rain The Other Side of the Door Forever Winter Delicate Gorgeous New Years Day Lover Afterglow Snow on the Beach State of Grace
About Luna Breathe Bigger Than The Whole Sky
About Saphira Never Grow Up Safe and Sound
About Demetri You All Over Me Clean mad woman no body no crime Would've Could've Should've
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EVELINA her story: ao3 // wattpad
songs: Fifteen 22 The Lucky One The Man the last great american dynasty this is me trying Vigilante Shit The Bolter
About Elio Picture to Burn Cold as You Should've Said No White Horse Tell me Why You're Not Sorry Dear John I Knew You Were Trouble All Too Well Is It Over Now? tolerate it happiness The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
About Eden tis the damn season dorothea ivy Maroon High Infidelity
About Azriel seven Stay Beautiful Fearless Love Story Today was a Fairytale Innocent Begin Again You Are in Love Don't Blame Me So It Goes... King of my Heart I Think He Knows Paper Rings peace Labyrinth But Daddy I Love Him Guilty as Sin? I Can Fix Him(No Really I Can) So High School
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MARIANGELA her story: ao3 // wattpad
songs: The Albatross I Hate it Here Tied Together with a Smile When Emma Falls in Love The Archer mirrorball hoax thanK you aIMee
About Tamlin(with some lyric changes) You're Losing Me Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? Peter
About Feyre Teardrops on my Guitar You Belong with Me Speak Now Wildest Dreams willow Lavender Haze Sparks Fly
About Rhys Superstar Superman Stay Stay Stay Starlight ...Ready For it? Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince
About Feyre and Rhys I'm Only Me When I'm With You Ours Timeless Holy Ground This Love "Slut!" Dress Call It What You Want invisible string Sweet Nothing
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SAMARA her story: ao3 // wattpad
songs: The Outside Invisible Foolish One the lakes evermore right where you left me You're On Your Own, Kid
About Mor Mine Enchanted I Can See You Treacherous The Very First Night Style I Know Places Dancing With Our Hands Tied Cruel Summer Cornelia Street illicit affairs
About Nesta The Best Day The Last Time
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feyre and her position as high lady
This is sth thats been talked about in the fandom (especially by anti feyres) so i wanna touch on this today.
I dont know why people try to paint feyre gaining her position as High Lady of Night Court by marrying Rhys as an insult when it’s not. A lot of feyre stans come to her defense by listing out everything she did to save NC and prythian so she should be high lady but my debate is different. Feyre having the position of a high lady should be the norm lol. Historically when rulers marry their spouses do become co-rulers or sth very close to it. when kings take wives they become queens. not Lady. QUEEN. Feyre is the queen. it’s the same way Rowan became King after marrying aelin. or how nesryn will be the future empress. Because they married the ruler/heir to those throne. Feyre did the same.
SJM’s inability to write women in power doesnt mean feyre needs to be diminished. We can have a whole other discussion about how SJM’s world of faes is basically the human world misogyny except faes just live longer and have magic. We can also talk about sjm’s forced gender roles and on her characters even tho these characters are faeries and as such wicked, magical creatures to whom sexuality and gender is meant to be a whole other thing. but nevermind that. sjm’s inability to write good fantasy isnt the point.
the point is what sjm did with feyre was normal lol. feyre married a king and she is the queen. the position of a high lady isnt sth new. it always existed as said by rhys in acomaf when he tells feyre that yes high lady can exist not just high lords. and also him creating the position of a high lady wouldnt be wrong neither would it be sth weird. in the past rulers have created position of power for their spouses/lovers. one example is Hurrem from the Ottoman Empire. The Sultan created the title Haseki Sultan, almost equal to imperial consort, for her. Also i dont want people saying that feyre cant handle political power blah blah when again using women like Hurrem it shows that people can rise from their unfortunate backgrounds to become great political powers💀 Why do you think people were dying to make their daughters queen? It’s because the Queen wields power and influence. Feyre rising in rank bc of marriage isnt anything new or antifeminist. It’s still done in the world today minus the royal title😭😭 do people not marry people from different socioeconomic backgrounds?
I know feyre antis who whine about this are certain stans who then go on to claim another woman as high lady or queen of sth she isnt. u can cry all u want but none of them are ever having what feyre has lol
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SJM unpopular opinion...
Feyre is not only the worst protagonist SJM has written, she's one of THE worst modern day YA female protagonists PERIOD. I'd seriously place her in the top 3.
Everything her fans love about her is how badly she treats people they feel deserve it and her flexing power she did NOTHING to earn, and everything her neutrals/antis love about her happened in book one when she was still terrible even though she was at her best there. Just terrible all around, an idiot (which has nothing to do with her ability to read), bad decisions every single time she was presented with a choice...I literally can think of nothing positive about her that makes people go insane. As a character, she's bad period.
agreed to most of that! i thinks she’s a very mary-sue pick me character. i didn’t mind her at first but once she and rhys’ mating bond was revealed she lost all agency and immediately became less likeable. she’s the kind of character i might have written on wattpad at age 11 bahahah
i understand why people find comfort in her and i totally respect that! im so happy to those who do, she’s just not my cup of tea at all and it really bugs me how she’s done nothing to earn the title of High Lady, meanwhile Viviane is still only the lady of winter / the high lord’s wife. feyre is an awful high lady and that’s not me being sexist — she can barely read, doesn’t really know or understand anything about the cultures, and lives a very sheltered life away from all her citizens. she’s so unsuited for the job and the fact rhys is painted as a feminist king for it while he let’s illyrian females be clipped and women in the CoN sold like cattle makes my blood BROIL
“nEsTa WaS aWfUL tO FeYrE” feyre literally said she was awful to Nesta too…. then she proceeded to pull a tamlin and lock her up “for her own good”
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