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elainiisms · 5 months

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personally, idc how hot young snow was or how "sad" his backstory was, none of that can EVER make me sympathise with a man who killed hundreds of children for amusement and sold the children he didn't kill into s*x trafficking.

#be fucking serious #also im aware not every victor was sold but adding that would make the sentence way to wordy #thg #tbosas #coriolanus snow #president snow #the hunger games #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #finnick odair #katniss everdeen #peeta mellark #johanna mason #anti coriolanus snow #elainposting

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sylvies-chen · 5 months

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I love the ballad of songbirds and snakes, don’t get me wrong. but the streets are comparing coriolanus snow to anakin skywalker and I just… somebody get me a gun! I need to buy a gun!

and listen, I totally get the idea behind it. they’re both young formerly promising men who spiralled downwards into violence and authoritarianism and, as a result, betrayed their best friends and the women they care for. on a basic level, they have some similarities. but again, it’s like… the most BASIC and SURFACE LEVEL comparison to make!

snow is not a fallen angel or tragic doomed hero. the entire point of the book + film was that he was always prone to thinking manipulatively, to being selfish, to being violent, to liking the system too much, to letting not just anger but genuine hatred inform his decisions. HE IS THE VILLAIN. and vader is a villain too— the most iconic villain of all time— but anakin is a whole other story, and coriolanus doesn’t hold a candle to anakin when you compare some deeper elements of their motivations.

first off, you only need to look at how they treat their ladies to understand what I’m saying. everyone loves the heartbreak of anakin and padme just as they love the heartbreak of lucy and snow, but that love for their tragic story seems to blind people to the absolute insanity that is snow’s thoughts about lucy. he lies to her, thinks she’s trying to kill him, her song doesn’t satisfy or please him, and in the books he even goes so far as to say she isn’t even that good looking??? anakin, on the other hand, delivers a minute-long monologue about how deeply in love he is with padme, how a single kiss from her haunts him, how he is willing to utterly devote himself to her and fulfil her every demand because there’s nothing else he can do. he expresses his love in a very immature way at times, but it is real and genuine. tbosas makes you question at times whether coriolanus really loves lucy, or whether just this idea of “taming” her seems appealing.

even their downward spirals are vastly different in nature. coriolanus snow becomes more paranoid in an attempt to maintain his image, in order to keep lucy under his spell. his ambitions are nuanced, not black and white by any means, but they are selfish. anakin’s spiral, though there’s no denying the horrific acts he commits, begins from a place of fear and love. he is so genuinely scared of losing his wife and his unborn children that he becomes susceptible to an outside force manipulating him towards the dark side. anakin also fulfils that element of the shakesperian tragic hero in that there’s this idea of potential that we see so present in him. he’s introduced as the one who would bring balance to the force, someone powerful beyond comprehension, a saviour of sorts. snow was never shown to have that level of promise. he was just a man who existed in a system and it is about him grappling with that system until eventually that disgusting fascist mindset takes over.

and lastly, of course, you can’t ever mention these two in tandem without remembering the fact that anakin did the right thing in the end! and coriolanus did not! luke fought to bring anakin back when vader had taken over for so many years, and in the end it paid off. anakin does the truly selfless thing in sacrificing himself to save luke. he lets love inform his decisions, as he once did before, only the fear is gone and so that love orients him towards good instead of darkness. anakin is a fallen angel, but he’s also a man who loved too much and didn’t know what to do with it. snow, comparatively, admits he isn’t above killing children and then laughs in the face of the masses he’s worked to oppress for over half a century right before his death.

anakin skywalker’s story is of the destruction and reconstruction of his good heart, of light, of balance, of love. it is cyclical, and it is tragic. coriolanus snow’s story is not. it is a story not of something sinister growing in an otherwise good heart, but a story of something sinister unravelling and revealing itself.

they are not the same.

#anakin skywalker #coriolanus snow #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #tbosas #star wars #star wars prequels #lucy gray baird #anidala #anti coriolanus snow #anti snowbaird

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alicentes · 5 months

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I didn’t sit here for years tryna stay calm and silent while listening to your bad takes on gale (who grew up oppressed, in poverty and then witnessed his entire district getting wiped out then rightly went to fight in the rebellion because it was his inlg chance of tearing down the system the wanted him and his family dead) being a “terrorist war criminal who is single handedly responsible for killing innocent people including prim and who is the REAL villain of the hunger games” just for y’all to turn and start stanning and defending actual facist dictator and child trafficker Coriolanus Snow because you saw a young hot version of him.

#i actually do enjoy coryo as a villain and liked his origin story but people are really making excuses for him? and they know what he became #gale hawthorne #the hunger games #anti coriolanus snow #tbosas #like even in tbosas he shows that he is a sociopathic narissist. he tries to be good but those traits are still there and he embraced them #as for gale he was oppressed his entire life and lived in the poorest part of panem and resents the rich who were complicit in his suffering #the things he does for the resistance were things he thought was neccessary to win to end oppression #the other option was losing the rebellion and getting tortured killed and allowing snow to cause a lot more suffering #do i agree w everything he does? no because he is a character with flaws but i dont blame him one bit for decisions after the genocide of 12 #he has to live with the consequences of what happened during the war and what he had to do to survive #but he is not a bad person for fighting back and willing to kill to survive he also does not understand the toll it takes to have to kill #him and snow are the same age and they both choose survival but snow is choosing power for himself and restoring his families wealth #and gale is choosing to join the rebellion and willing to fight for the sake of the rest of his people and to put an end to the suffering #one creates an oppressive society and one is tearing down that society both do whatever it takes #wow i guess i have more thoughts on gales character than i originally thought and the comparisons with snow are interesting

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topperscumslut · 4 months

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call me coriolanus snow the way i be fumbling two bad bitches at once

#coriolanus snow #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #anti coriolanus snow #sejanus plinth #lucy gray baird #the hunger games #thg #tom blyth #rachel zegler #josh andres rivera

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sukibenders · 5 months

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TBOSAS movie is proving time and time again that as long the character is a handsome white man, he can get away with anything or be babified of any wrongdoing. Like the number of people that I've seen go out of their way to try and justify Snow's actions, not even just young Snow anymore at this point but he's largely where this happens, using the term "he was just misunderstood" and acting as if his trauma was an excuse is mind-blowing. Did he go through traumatic stuff? Yes, but acting as if that excuses many of his actions, specifically for young Snow because there's no way in hell that mindset will work even a fraction with his older self (but people still try), is false and a mindset that needs to be stopped. Like I can't help but think about the way he views the people of the districts already in TBOSAS, seeing them and anything about them as animals rather than people, and how that mindset even falls on to the Covey and Lucy Gray herself. When reading some of their scenes together he comes off so passive aggressive when she talks about her plight, but it's largely because he treats her like an object---no, a PRIZE to be won and owned (thinking back to how, before they were even together romantically and where she didn't owe him shit, he still saw her as "his girl" and would get obsessive over the fact that others gravitated to her in a way he didn't like).

I'm not saying that it's wrong to find the bad guy attractive, it's not and Snow is very handsome, I will admit that. But just because he got a face card doesn't mean that should be basis for justifying every horrendous act he's done. And also, he's eighteen years old, why are people acting like he doesn't know his right from his left? He knows exactly what he's doing, from the books where his thoughts are literally laid out for us, to the movie itself. Though not as clear cut sometimes as the books, there are plenty scenes that let you know who he is (I think back to that classroom scene where Gaul is asking them questions, and Sejanus rightfully calls them out on their bs, but Snow uses his outrage and turns it into a way to make the Games better, completely going against Sejanus' original point).

What's even more sinister is some in the fandom going as far as to blame Lucy Gray for all of Snow's problems by saying "oh, but if she had just heard him out then maybe he wouldn't have been so heartbroken", as if she should had further risked her life and wellbeing to adhere to this man's needs when he was out to harm her or the fact that him having his heartbroken is justification for everything else he did before and after. There are many other examples of this, but it set a precedent for a very glaring problem in fandom spaces where the female character, especially if they are woc, is always to blame for the male, usually white, character's bad actions and that if they just listened to them and heard them out then so on and so on. Reminds me very much of the treatment of Alina in both show and books fandom spaces and babifying of the Darkling's actions by putting all the blame on her (never mind the fact that he's the cause for so much of her trauma, he's pretty after all *this was sarcasm*).

It's been a minute since I've seen the movie, so my example may be a little fuzzy, but my point still stands. You can like these characters and find them attractive, that's fine and normal. But where problems arise is when you try to paint over their bad acts because you thirst after them and/or proceed to place blame on the female characters, especially if they are woc, as a scapegoat.

#the hunger games #tbosas #coriolanus snow #lucy gray baird #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #shadow and bone #shadow and bone netflix #alina starkov #the darkling #anti coriolanus snow #thinking back to woc characters being blamed for yte male characters actions another eg. would be kiara from obx #i still remember people saying she was wrong for pushing rafe off the boat and leaving him that she should have heard him out #even tho he was responsible for so much pain towards her and her friends (some of which seemed racial motivated but that's for another time)#snow fans darkling fans or just anyone who can't interact with this post with a level head dni #lucy gray did nothing wrong! leave my girl alone!#she saw them red flags and dipped #and we love that for her

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punkeropercyjackson · 2 months

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Hate it when people say 'if villain bad,why sexy?' and then the villain's not even sexy.You have no backbone and for WHAT?Dick/coochie from someone who's ugly inside AND out?L

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lovl3igh · 4 months

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some people still don't understand: coriolanus snow wouldn't fck you. he would kill you. have a nice day.

#wtf are coriolanus x reader ffs where he's not even a monster #coriolanus snow is a trash #anti coriolanus snow #coriolanus snow #coryo snow #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #thg #hunger games

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mikereads · 5 months

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Can people stop shipping Lucy and Snow. By also trying to show the parallels between them with Katniss and Peeta. First of all the parallels aren’t supposed to be interpreted as romantic. They are supposed to show the trajectory of how Snow treats Katniss in the later series. Not every parallel is meant to high light good things. The books show how toxic they truly are. For anyone who missed it is mind boggling. Plus people trying to sympathize him or make him some kind of victim. The same issue so many people had when she announced the book. I thought everyone was on the same page. Snow has always been a bad guy and the system and games only highlighted and made it worse. I mean did none of you read the book or see the ending???? Seriously. This wasn’t an origin story meant to show you he was in any way the victim or that you should feel for him the exact opposite. If you didn’t get that than you didn’t understand what she was trying to accomplish. Plus I’m sorry but she was literally trying to show you that the world she built is terrible but there are also horrible people anyway. That the games wasn’t the sole thing that made Snow turn. Some people are just terrible regardless and circumstances can enhance that. Also by even trying to compare them to Katniss and Peeta you are trying to compare a healthy relationship to a toxic one and that isn’t it. Side note: not people trying to say Peeta was more heroic than Katniss I can’t.

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wonderstruckmarvel · 4 months

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Only one thing to say to the Snow apologists

Power doesn't change people. It just brings out their real side.

#just gonna leave this here #coriolanus snow #ballad of songbirds and snakes #anti coriolanus snow #the hunger games #thg

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dam-bluecookies · 16 days

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"coryo" I'll crush you like an oreo

#guys I'm such an amazing poet right #yes I'm beefing with a non existent character #thg #tbosas #anti coriolanus snow

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saltair-and-palemoonlight · 23 days

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I genuinely don’t understand how people could thirst over snow after reading tbosas

#ok maybe I’m just quirky🤪#(please note the sarcasm)#but I could barely get through that book bc I was so disgusted reading his pov #like he’s such a nasty person!!!!!#and look I love me a good villain #but he’s just on another fucking level #I just really don’t understand the romanticization of him #lilly talks #anti coriolanus snow #the hunger games #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #tbosas

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war-in-time · 2 months

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I’m currently reading the ballad of songbirds and snakes for the first time ever cause I re-read all the hunger games books and thought, why not?

But like Snow is actually unbelievable? Like he’s kinda an ass for the whole book so far and I’m not done yet but Jesus he’s a creepy dude. The things that’s bothering me the most right now? Is the fact that he isn’t able to even imagine that Sejanus has a high alcohol tolerance.

Snows literally sitter there like, I feel like shit and I can barely handle liquor which leans that everyone else can also barely handle liquor. So if I’m having a hangover and Sejanus isn’t he must be lying about drinking! Like no babe, you’re just a lightweight.

#the ballad of songbirds and snakes #coriolanus snow #sejanus plinth #anti coriolanus snow

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8ice8 · 5 months

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Why are there so many Coriolanus x reader one shots. Girlie that's a white boy. And a dictator??? And a murderer???? Get a grip??? Also Sejanus is right there!!! And Lucy Gray!!!

#the hunger games #coriolanus snow #anti snow #sejanus plinth #lucy gray baird #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes

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saberlight1 · 4 months

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fiery aces — billy the kid

pairing: billy the kid x fem!reader

warnings: mentions of violence, Y/N usage, arguments, reader is a gunslinger, standard billy the kid warnings.

authors note: hii!! i love this lil blurb sm, thank you anon for requesting this, it is linked here. anyways, i hope you enjoy this!

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Your skin crawled with annoyance as you practically slammed open the bar doors to the place you worked at, going to try and calm yourself down with a cigar and your horse— the two things you claimed you couldn’t live without.

You had worked at this shitty bar in this shitty town for about two years now. Why? You hadn’t had a clue.

You seemed to always convince yourself it was because you didn’t have enough money to— but in reality, it was because you were terrified of change.

But that didn’t matter to you as of now, as you angrily mumbled to yourself about how stupid men were as you went to grab a cigar and a match out of the carrier on your horse.

You lit the match on the underside of your cowboy boot, lighting up the cigar that rested neatly between your teeth and letting the vapor wash your worries away.

“Aye, girl.” A sickening voice broke your peace. “That’s quite a cigar for such a girl like you to be smokin’. A fine horse too..” He reached out to touch your horse and within an instant you grabbed your shotgun out your holster on your horse, cocking it and pointing it at the man.

“Back the hell up,” You harshly spoke, your angry demeanor returning just as quickly as it left.

Billy Bonney was walking through a random town he had walked upon. He was currently on the run after escaping from jail, yet again, and had ended up here— a place where nobody knew him, thankfully. He strolled through, observing what there was and what there wasn’t.

His tranquility was broke when he heard the angry yells of a pissed-off woman, reminding the man of his mother. It didn’t mind him at first— but what did grab his attention was the sound of a shotgun cocking.

His ears pricked up, and he was immediately walking towards where it came from, his hand ghosting over his own firearm.

When he turned the corner that led to the bar, what he saw surprised him. It was the woman he heard yelling— a barmaid, she seemed. She had a cigar loosely hung from her ruby lips, one eye closed as she aimed the shotgun at the man standing in front of her, whom she had been yelling at.

“I asked you what the fuck you were doin’, boy!” You yelled, pointing the gun at him further, your patience growing thin.

The man you were yelling at cowered in fear, his hands up in surrender. “N—Nun’, ma’am, I swear— I was jus’ tryna compliment ya—”

“Do I look like I want your nasty ass compliments, you scrub?” You spat, your eyes trailing up and down his figure in disgust.

Billy watched with admiration on his face. He had to admit; you looked damn gorgeous, especially with that gun in your hands.

“I—I dunno..” He whispered, practically shaking in his boots. Billy’s hands came to rest on his gun-belt, a quiet snicker leaving his lips at the scene before him.

“Well, I fuckin’ don’t. Get on somewhere, you prick.” You lowered your gun, one of your hands coming up to puff at the cigar a couple times before resting it between your fingers. “Don’t come back ‘round here.” You said with a scowl, spitting at his feet. The man shakily nodded before turning to run, a smirk tugging on your lips as you put the cigar back into your mouth.

Billy decided to walk up to you as the man ran away. “I don’t mean no harm,” He held his hands up in surrender as he approached you.

You turned, taking the cigar out your mouth once more, looking at him with a ghost of a smile on your lips. “I saw you watchin’, don’t be coy.. You got alternative motives.” You countered his words easily as you tucked your shotgun back into your horses holster— your spare hand rubbing the animals neck softly.

He went silent at your words, rubbing his neck. “Well, I’d be lyin’ if I said you ain’t impress me.” He slowly spoke. “When I heard you yellin’, I was comin’ over to see if I could be of help— but you had it handled. Just wanted to meet you,” He smiled.

You smiled up at the man, taking another drag of your cigar. “Well, thank ya, sugar.” Your smiled turned into that of a smirk. “Seems like some men ‘round here do got manners, huh. I never would’ve guessed.”

“Hm, makes sense, ‘cause I ain’t from ‘round here, darlin’.” He responded, stepping closer to you.

“Even better,” You said. “Most people in this town are pieces of shit.”

“Then why you still here?” He asked.

“Don’t got another option. Barely any money— no family, no husband.” You shook your head. “I’d probably end up dead in the desert somewhere if I’d tried,” You sighed.

A chuckle left his lips. “Seein’ how you jus’ handled yourself? I’d say you’d be perfectly fine.”

A soft smile broke across your face. “Well, I ain’t sure about all that. I ain’t ever left this town before.”

“Really?” He asked, eyebrows furrowed.

“Surprised?” You took another puff of your cigar.

“Yeah.” He nodded. “You jus’… don’t seem like the type to let a place like this hold you down.”

You sighed. “Well, seems to be that I am. Even if I get more and more fed up of this damn place everyday.”

“Maybe ya just need the right company wit’ you.” He quietly said, eyes flickering between yours as he tested the waters.

Your smile seemed to grow brighter at his words, making his stomach flip. “Maybe you’re right..” You searched for a name.

He tipped his hat down at you in a hello. “Billy. Billy Bonney.”

You giggled. “Well, Mr. Bonney, I’m Y/N Y/L/N.” You did a sloppy curtsy, making a chuckle leave his lips.

“I think we’ll get on well, Ms. Y/L/N.” He whispered, holding out his elbow for you to take. You took it gratefully, wondering to yourself how you threatening a man’s life led you to this.

#anon asks #coriolanus snow #tbosas #billy antrim #billy bonney x fem reader #billy antrim x reader #billy antis dni #billy the kid #billy bonney x reader #billy the kid x reader #billy the kid gifs #billy bonney #william h bonney x reader #william h bonney #tom blyth x reader #tom blyth #coryo

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sadalmostlesbian · 3 months

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In defense of Sejanus Plinth part 2 cause I’m still seeing TERRIBLE takes.

I am convinced (and this is my OPINION but I will try to back it up with relevant info from the books) that Sejanus could not have “done a lot of good” if he stayed in the Capitol and used his “privilege” to end the games like Plutarch did.

Reason one: Our wonderful president of Panem is literally famous for poisoning people. The games are Coriolanus Snow’s claim to fame, his means of control. He NEEDS the games. If Sejanus stayed in the Capitol and gave one INKLING that he was going to threaten the Games’ sanctity Coriolanus. Would. Poison. Him. Like literally immediately.

Reason two: Yes the Plinths have money. Spoiler, so do most in the Capitol. Many of Coriolanus’s classmates are equal in wealth to Sejanus’s family (aka the Heavensbees, Cranes, and Creeds). The only reason Coriolanus hates specifically the Plinths for their wealth is because they are DISTRICT. In Coriolanus’s eyes they do not DESERVE their wealth because of where they came from. Yeah, Sejanus never starved like Coriolanus did. He was not really that privileged though. In the books, he lived in an apartment that was NOT ON THE CORSO that looked unimpressive from the outside, suggesting that the Plinths would never have the real status of a born Capitol citizen. Sejanus and the rest of the Plinths were and always will be outcasted because of their origin. That doesn’t sound like privilege to me. Doesn’t sound like something he could use for a lot of good.

Number three (the most important) reason: That is not the POINT of his character. Sejanus is kind and he speaks his mind and he cannot look past atrocity. Plutarch did a lot of good, yes, but he did some TERRIBLE shit to get to that end. Sejanus COULDN’T do that. He would not have the heart. He was too good for a world like Panem, the point is that his kindness cannot exist in a world like that, it will be snuffed out.

Anyway, sorry for the rant but like… yes, morally grey characters like Plutarch are cool and interesting to read about. But I feel like there’s this obsession with conniving characters and they’re starting to be seen as the only GOOD characters because people love to insert their own beliefs or methods onto literature. Sejanus is a wholeheartedly good person and not under any circumstance morally grey. If that makes him boring, fine. But like, don’t say “oh he should have done (insert thing so incredibly out of character it’s insane) instead!” when it makes no sense and completely disregards the point of his character.

#sejanus plinth #coriolanus snow #tbosas #I’m seeing so many bad takes I cannot take it #Cannot believe SEJANUS PLINTH has antis #what do you MEAN

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sukibenders · 5 months

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Snow instantly not vibing with the mockjay birds is so funny to me, they were in his mind from the start and would continue to haunt him. Love them for that.

#the hunger games #thg #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #anti coriolanus snow #coriolanus snow #lucy gray baird #katniss everdeen #district 12 #mockingjay #he was instantly creeped out by those birds and wsnted them gone #but lucy and eventually katniss finding comfort in them and said bird being used as a symbol in the rebellion #*chefs kiss*#like snow just seeing there flaws and using that as a basis to destroy them #but lucy seeing the beauty in them even with their flaws is something so beautiful to me

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