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#anti ben stan
bewilderedbuck · 2 years
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if you openly excuse the behavior of the only cis white male character while actively demonizing the main WOC characters, maybe you should take a closer look at your biases.
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no shade but shade it's nice to enjoy this trailer ben stan free :)
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loveourfuture-c · 2 years
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is it just me or do so many Daxton shippers prioritize Paxton above everything and Stan him more than Devi
honestly it feels like they just use Devi as a self insert who gets with the hot guy
It’s not just you. It’s very very apparent and a lot of them don’t even try to hide it.
(To be fair though I’ve seen quite a few benvi shippers do the same thing with Ben. It’s extremely annoying)
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short-wooloo · 10 months
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the reality reylos live in is so weird
listen to them talk about their precious “kylo lives” au follow ups to ros and they’re always going on and on about how “wonderful” it is that Rey and kylo live happily ever after together (bleagh) in a hetero nuclear family new jedi order, but they never seem to have an answer for why everyone in the universe ignores and lets the mass murdering fascist off the hook
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ineffablelvrs · 1 year
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btw now that the second season of the show comes out in less than a week, i want to remind yall that it does not matter that ben barnes plays him, it does not matter that he's "hot so it's okay", the darkling is a fucking creep, a groomer and a manipulator and yall just like him bc he's a powerful, conventionally attarctive man. he's NOT "morally gray". grishaverse characters who ARE actually morally gray are for example kaz, nikolai and zoya. darkling is straight up a villain, an unredeemable one to add to that. to sum up, fuck darkling and his apologists :)
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darklinaforever · 2 months
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The Darkling is also a pedo and Kylo Ren is a genocidal fascist you have zero right to talk on Aegon lmfao
The Darkling is a pedo ?
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Yeah, of course. The Darkling is not a pedophile. You, the antis, really need to stop with this crap and learn the definitions of the words you use.
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Aegon is on the other hand, a pedophile !
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Kylo Ren / Ben Solo, has no ideology of his own when he is in the First Order / Empire. He's not there for the cause. He is there because he is manipulated from a fetus by literally hearing voices in his head, even while still an adult, who manipulated him, while being attracted to the light side. Also, Kylo Ren / Ben Solo didn't genocidate anyone !
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If you tell me about the village at the beginning of the 7th, killing members of a village on a planete is not what we call genocide. And if you tell me about the planet system still in 7, it wasn't even him, but Hux and Snoke. In the film he doesn't say anything, but at the same time, what is he supposed to do against his boss ? And then, in the official novelization, he is outright opposed to this destruction...
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The Darkling is a gray and complex character, who is not a real villain in the author's own words. As for Kylo Ren / Ben Solo, he is a gray and complex character who underwent manipulation / grooming, ending up obtaining redemption. I have every right to speak of them in these terms, because they are just facts. It's all facts that Aegon II is a simple antagonist / villain in the dance, literally a rapist on top of a pedophile who dies like shit, poisoned by his own camps.
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Aegon is a good character who fulfills his role as a pathetic villain perfectly. Why is no one able to appreciate him as he is ?
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Oh, also, anonymous person, I have every right to talk about the character of Aegon II if I want. The added thing is that I don't even talk that much about him actually, but you, who send me tons of ridiculous messages about his character. Oh and I almost forgot the most important thing :
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Let me preface this by saying that I love each and every one of your sweet faces regardless of what you put on my dash but I have known so much peace since I blocked the Taylor Swift tag.
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cto10121 · 11 months
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Literally everyone circa 1590s-1600s: Mellifluous Master Shakespeare!!!! Honey-tongued Master Shakespeare!!! Sweet Master Shakespeare Shakespeare!!!! Cinnamon roll too good and too pure for this world Master Shakespeare!!!!
People writing Shakespeare fanfic/Anti-Stratfordians: But what if he were an arrogant narcissistic asshole, tho????? 👀👀👀👀
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francforever · 1 year
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Idc what you say the biggest possible red flag in a Grishaverse fan EVER is being a d*rkling stan and supporting his actions/shipping d*rklina
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thewingedwolf · 1 year
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FIRST OF ALL my favorite thing about all the bitter fans who hate how popular the crows are is that they’ll say “focus more on the REAL main characters” and then name every single s&b character BUT mal, and then are all in leigh bardugo & the writers & actors mentions and comments saying “shame on you for ignoring your asian lead” re: jessie, but then they themselves completely ignore archie in favor of ben…and also amita is literally also asian and she’s heavy in all the crows promo!!!!! it’s such a dumb and inappropriate point to try to make literally in the mentions of the writers, leigh bardugo, and even sometimes the actors replies, like!!
second of all…the first book is LICHRALLY the crows going on a heist to human traffic/murder what they think is a middle aged man and turns out to be a teenage boy, they were ALREADY 🗣️HUMAN 🗣️TRAFFICKERS 🗣️ that’s Their Thing, they are unrepentant, ruthlessly competent criminals who are completely devoted to each other and no one else
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bewilderedbuck · 2 years
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The thing I'm not sure why they don't understand is that this is Devi's show. This show isn't about Ben. He's a love interest, and it's really cool that he got an episode in his POV and he's getting some complexity and development, but at the end of the day, this show centers around Devi. This is her story that's being told. So many of their critiques seem to be simply wishes for the narrative to focus on Ben instead of Devi, which......goes against the entire premise of the show.
yes!!! this is devi's story!!! how often do we get a show where the protagonist is a messy, chaotic woman of color? with two love interests? who keeps messing up and learning from her mistakes? who has to deal with the trauma and grief of losing her father, as well as her intergenerational trauma? a protagonist who is the daughter of immigrants, successful immigrants at that? this show is devi's coming of age story. not ben's. not paxton's. devi's.
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the-paris-of-people · 2 years
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The worst part about hardcore Ben stans is they make me want to hate Ben then I go and watch the show and remember that I love him 
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loveourfuture-c · 2 years
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I hate Ben stans I hate Ben stans I hate Ben stans
they're so rude and nasty and for what
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short-wooloo · 5 months
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With the news from Adam Driver about how kylo redemption was never the plan originally and his story was basically meant to be reverse Vader, I'd like to resurrect an old conspiracy theory of mine about Rise of Skywalker
So the duel in the ruins of the death star, y'know how it ends with Rey stabbing kylo and then she heals him?
Well I believe he originally was meant to die there, Rey killed him in anger, and it causes a breakdown in her, she's upset not only that she failed Leia and couldn't redeem kylo, but also terrified by her anger, scared that she truly is a Palpatine, and from there we get our pep talk from Luke and final battle with Sidious
Basically I think Rey healing kylo was a last minute addition to the script (probably at disney's insistence)
And the rest of the film doesn't exactly prove me wrong
How does kylo get to exegol after Rey took his TIE fighter? Well apparently in the exploded, sitting in water for 30 years ruins of the death star there's not only a functional imperial TIE, but one with a hyperdrive too
What does kylo do upon reaching exegol? Fight the knights of Ren, something Rey herself could do or perhaps even better you could have had the Knights fight Finn, Rose and the Resistance soldiers
Does kylo meaningfully contribute to the final battle with Sidious? Not really, he gets drained of his life force by Sidious (so basically he inadvertently helps him) and is thrown down a hole for the rest of the battle, Rey does all the heavy lifting from there
The only meaningful contribution kylo makes after his "redemption" is sacrificing himself to revive Rey, which may not have even needed to happen because the only reason she was so drained is because kylo being there caused Sidious to realize he could absorb both of their life forces to restore himself (so in a way, it's his fault!) Alternatively it could have just been written that Rey passed out due to exhaustion and was otherwise fine
So yeah, that's my conspiracy, not that crazy, perfectly reasonable from my perspective
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darklinaforever · 2 months
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The fact that Aegon is a r*pist (in the series, this strange story from the books about a twelve-year-old girl can hardly be considered r*pe) does not make him a less interesting character, especially in the books (I chose TG after reading them and there his story is amazing). If he's not your cup of tea - okay, but people can love any characters and their feelings are valid, it doesn't mean they justify r*pists or something lol. It's especially strange to hear something like that from a person who likes Darkling, who abused Alina and Kylo, who did the same with Rey. Double standards?
What amazing stories for the Greens ? They don't have an amazing story. Compare to the characters of the Blacks team ?!
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Also, yes, fictional characters being rapists can be interesting. It's the truth. Like Kilgrave from Jessica Jones, notably through his extremely frightening power of control. But who exactly is interesting about Aegon II ? One of his descriptions is that he drinks, likes to eat, rapes, no taste for responsibility. He is also a hypocritical character (In the sense if he really said that line about how a brother should not take his sister's throne. Because if he said it, he is a hypocrite for then ardently wanting to keep power for himself even afterwards. Or maybe it's simply an invention of pro-Green propaganda by Eustace to try to soften this asshole, making him even worse than hypocrite). And on top of that, he's not particularly intelligent from what I remember.
And yes, it is certain that this 11 / 12 year old girl, named girl, a sign that she was not considered a woman but a child, completely consented to the fact that a prince superior to her wanted to sleep with her ! No doubt she was fully consenting at last ! Aegon II is also a rapist in the book ! Whether you like it or not !
Oh. And you know the Darkling and Kylo Ren / Ben Solo aren't ? Rapists. (Kylo Ren is even a victim of grooming by Snoke / Palpatine in fact) So no. I don't have double standards. You are just someone who obviously doesn't know how to think.
And yes. The people who are team greens trying to justify the fact that Aegon II is a rapist. I had one try to tell me that Aegon II was either not a rapist at all, or that he had just sexually assaulted servants, which is apparently very commonplace for a prince ! All while trying to say that Daemon is the real rapist without a doubt ! So again, yes. They are trying to justify, or simply accuse another character of being.
And the simple fact that you sent this private message to try to tell me that no Aegon II can hardly be seen as a rapist in the book and that it is only in the series... Something canonically false, while trying blaming me for my love of other characters who aren't rapists, trying to say I have double standards, is an attempt of justification.
Kylo Ren / Ben Solo, he is a character who has been abused and manipulated (groomed) since he was a fetus to be forced to switch to the dark side, eventually obtaining redemption.
Also, Kylo Ren abuses Rey when exactly ? During the so-called torture that Kylo allegedly subjected Rey to in episode 7 ? From 1, they are at war. 2, they are enemies. 3, Rey has information that could be valuable to Kylo's side, it's literally his job to interrogate Rey. And 4, he was gentle and careful with her, avoiding hurting her. So damn, we have to stop with this stupid "torture" scene. What exactly do you think the TRUE torture scene of Poe by Kylo at the beginning of the film was there for ? It served as a contrast to Rey's situation later. Poe was beaten and had his mind searched in an extremely painful manner. Rey was having none of that. Do you want a real scene of torture suffered by Rey ? Snoke in The Last Jedi, or this time, Rey screams in pain like Poe when his mind is invaded. And if you come to point out all the times Kylo and Rey fought, should I remind you that it's war and they're in enemy because they are in different camps ? Just the basic thing that forces them to be against each other ?
For the Darkling, he is a complex / gray character, who basically does bad things with an essentially altruistic goal, namely saving his Grisha people and his Ravka country, and who Leigh Bardugo herself cannot call a pure villain.
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Also, like Reylo, Darklina are on opposing sides during a war. Does it make sense that they are not always gentle with each other ? No ?
The link between the character of Aegon II, rapist and 100% villain of the Green team and the two characters that are the Darkling and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo exactly ?!
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mayfieldss · 1 year
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*Not a request, just curious* Would you ever write for the Darkling?
No, I would not, but I do know some accounts that do write for the darkling. One of my friends Lisa does; @heliads
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