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people who pretend amarantha would’ve actually stopped pillaging prythian, specifically the spring court, if tamlin “sucked it up” and gave himself over to her are so funny to me because like,,, she wouldn’t have stopped. rhysand gave himself over to her, and the night court was still freaking decimated lmao. the only part of the night court that wasn’t damaged was velaris, but the rest faced the brunt of amarantha’s reign of terror to protect that city. amarantha wouldn’t have stopped if tamlin submitted to her. she would’ve continued her reign of terror, and tamlin would’ve suffered even worse, all for nothing.
#tamlin#pro tamlin#amarantha#anti sjm#anti acotar fandom#anti acotar stans#i need this critique of tam to go die in a hole#like i’m begging yall#acotar#astrababyy
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why is the acotar fandom the only one i see framing being anti as something super weird to do and acting like dunking on something is an invalid way to engage in your own corner of the fandom
"it's crazy to me how people don't like the main characters but still read these books" i implore you to shut the fuck up instead of trying to passive aggressively silence other readers because you don't like an opinion
#anti acotar#anti acotar stans#anti feysand#maybe the tog fandom would make it into this post if i cared to put myself through those books someday#anti acotar fandom
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Is it just me or am I seeing a lot of Rhys and IC stans complain about Nesta/Tamlin stans lately. Saying how we are the problem ☠️. I think they can’t take what they dish. Cause I became a die hard Nesta Stan encountering ridiculous feysand and co stans.
Legit you cannot mention Nesta (or Tamlin) in the ACOTAR Facebook group. Tell me which stans are the worst. I seen comments in how people “didn’t include Nesta” because they didn’t want to spark anger. and Yet Nesta stans are the problem.
I followed an ACOSF Facebook group about Nessian and they legit changed it to ACOTAR and added a Feysand pic for their background. like why. It was supposed to be about ACOSF and Nessian, but now it became another Feysand page.
#anti ic#anti sjm#anti morrigan#anti mor#anti rhys#anti rhysand#anti feyre#anti feyre archeron#anti feyre stans#anti cassian#anti azriel#anti amren#anti feysand#anti rhysand stans#anti rhys stans#anti acotar#anti acotar stans
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I’m trying to enjoy elriel. I’m really trying. I read fanfics of them to see vassien. But WHY DO YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE LUCIEN SO DIRTY??
It’s the exatly same thing that gwynriels do with elain in their fanfics. And nesta stans do to rhysand.
They don’t like a character for whatever reason and then decide do write them 100% different than the canon
It would be easier to just ignore these characters on your fics, writing most scenes whithout them
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Schrödinger’s Feyre: Where Feyre is simultaneously a cunning and badass girlboss with a mind of steel and a fragile little lamb who doesn’t know any better. When they’re proud, she’s a skilled strategist and competent High Lady, but when it comes to facing the consequences of her actions and the implications of her power, suddenly she’s a little baby waddling through fairy land.
#And the perfect case study? just look at the indecisiveness of her stans when it comes to her culpability in the downfall of the Spring Cou#In one camp Feyre is an excellent and clever strategist who expertly infiltrated enemy territory to destroy those who wronged her#She exacts righteous revenge on her enemy with her wits…but when Tamlin points out the collateral damage wrought upon the innocent civilian#of the Spring Court suddenly it wasn’t Feyre’s fault at all and it was ACTUALLY entirely Tamlin’s fault that the Spring Court fell#Suddenly Feyre had nothing to do with it…how convenient lol#sjm critical#anti sjm#anti inner circle#feyre archeron#anti feyre#acotar#acomaf#acowar#anti feysand#anti acosf#anti rhysand#tamlin#pro tamlin
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“Nesta could’ve just used the stairs”
Did you not read the fucking book. She tried multiple times to escape the house and she couldn’t make it hundred steps with falling and nearly killing herself. What don’t you understand about the fact that Nesta had been starving herself for almost a year. You think that she going to be able to just get up and go down ten thousand steps. She could barley walk after two hours of just stretching.
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First you are pro Nesta and anti Rhys,now you also are pro Tamlin.Woah,you truly want to be so different uh
#yeah cause i actually have taste#y’all suck#just like your faves#anti acotar#acotar#anti rhysand#anti rhysand stan#anti rhys#pro nesta#nesta archeron#pro tamlin#anti sjm#sjm#anti sarah j maas#sarah j maas#anti inner circle#anti ic#rhysand
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I swear, the entirety of the TikTok acotar bubble shares ONE SINGLE braincell and they've lost it.
Why am I even still on this hellsite? 😭 Since when are we inventing canon just to hate on characters?
Found someone with some common sense there, yay.
And then you see this. I don't even know what to say to this. Is it so hard to THINK?
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the fact that so many stans don’t see the irony in hating tamlin for abusing feyre while also defending rhysand’s actions by saying he’s trying to protect feyre is just- 🥴
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Elain telling Nesta “All you can think about is what my trauma has done to you” was incredibly ignorant and no one can convince me otherwise.
For some reason, Elain thinks the trauma that had resulted from that night belongs solely to her and Nesta is being selfish for trying to take any ownership of it.
Everything in Nesta’s life, has always been about Elain. She came first and she never stopped to think about how it could impact Nesta. Very rarely does Nesta have the time to face her own trauma and learn to heal from it because she was always in environments/situations that put her on guard to protect her sister. And Elain has always been comfortable allowing her to do so while she retreats to the background where it was safe. She has never thought twice about putting Nesta in these positions all her life.
When the sisters first come to Pythian, Elain completely checks out from the weight of the loss and trauma she has experienced. Which is completely understandable. But she isn’t the only one to have lost so much. So had Nesta. But at a time where Nesta may have needed her support, she wasn’t there.
All Elain could think about was what their shared trauma has done to her. But Nesta never cared.
Those first few weeks in Pythian? Nesta was there to check on her. To make sure she is eating. To ensure her wellbeing. To see to her needs. To make sure she is comfortable.
In ACOSF, for the first time in Nesta’s life, she isn’t capable of putting Elain first. But Elain is unwilling to confront the possibility that the trauma they both experienced that night may have affected her sister differently than it did her. As a result, she avoids putting herself in a position where she might have to face the full extent of that truth.
I’m not saying that Elain doesn’t have a right to feel greatly impacted by what had happened to her. She went through alot. But she doesn’t get to pick and choose whose trauma that night was greater and warrants more concern.
#anti acosf#nesta archeron#nesta#nesta stan#pro nesta#acotar#anti elain archeron#its the selfishness for me#nesta x elain#really woke up this morning with this on my mind#pro nesta archeron#nesta archeron supremacy#a court of silver flames#nesta acotar#acosf
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‘Everything in her life, from the moment she was born, had been controlled by other people. Things happened to her; anytime she tried to exert control, she’d been thwarted at every turn—and she hated that even more than the King of Hybern.’
so sjm is gonna write this paragraph. and then have nesta end up in an environment where her life is under constant control. end up around people who do nothing but control her. end up with a man who feels more than comfortable controlling her.
she doesn’t have a job. she doesn’t get paid. sjm never gave her financial independence even though i (personally) believe it’s one of the MOST important things nesta needed in her life. she’s been controlled through finances her entire life. she’s depended on others for finances her entire life. you’re telling me she’s just okay with depending on c*ssian for it now? i just don’t understand how silver flames was a book dedicated to healing and nesta finding herself. i really don’t.
she can’t even leave her house easily? she needs to either ask someone to get her out or TAKE 10,000 STEPS! how does nesta not despise living there. how does she not despise having her weapons taken from her and controlled by others. how does she not despise waking up every morning to train just because c*ssian told her to! when she was literally threatened into it!
how are you supposed to take nesta’s ‘healing arc’ seriously when she’s ended up in a position that old her would’ve despised. every time i reread this nightmare i find more quotes that make no sense even being in the book when you know how it ends and it makes me just as mad as i was when this book was released.
#nesta archeron#acotar#acomaf#acowar#acofas#acosf#a court of silver flames#pro nesta archeron#pro nesta#nesta archeron stan#nesta archeron supremacy#stan nesta#nesta#lady death#queen of queens#anti nessian#anti cassian#sarah j maas
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@lorcandidlucienwill I cannot stop thinking about your tamlin post of him possibly abdicating his throne so I wanna share my two cents on this.
While you’re probably gonna end up being right, I really do hope you’re wrong lol.The main thing I wanna see with tamlin is him healing and tamlin abdicating his throne and “quitting” just feels like he’s giving up on his people,his court and himself and nothing about that screams healing to me.I think tamlin is deeply connected to his people and his lands and a big part of his healing journey should be him embracing and making peace with his high lord position—as well as regaining the trust of his people and rebuilding the spring court.Tamlin has shown that he cherishes his people deeply and everything he does is for them and I don’t believe he’d abandon them so easily.He is a good high lord,he just needs to accept his place and find some peace and enjoyment in it.I believe tamlin healing is deeply connected to the spring court healing and vice versa.One won’t happen without the other.
Right now tamlin’s too deep in his own shit to see what’s really going on around him so I think it’s a lot more complicated than “he has no interest in ruling over spring anymore”.He doesn’t want to be alive anymore and him living in his beast form is basically his way of fulfilling that without completely fucking up the spring court and leaving his people with nothing.Once he’s out of this depressive episode(because really that’s what it is)the one thing that’ll keep him going will be his court and the effort of trying to be better for them after failing them so terribly.Tamlin healing through the SC and the SC healing through tamlin is what I wanna see happen and it would be much more fulfilling than him giving up and handing his court to someone else —or worse him dying.
And as much as I love lucien and I know that he would make a great high lord,I don’t believe spring would flourish under the rule of some guy whose half autumn half day.They need tamlin— someone who has spring literally running through his veins and blood, someone who is connected to the very lands and core of the spring court.Tamlin has lived in the forests and has dug his hands through the literal ground of his lands.He IS the spring court.
Now do I think SJM will do tamlin’s story justice? Absolutely not but a girl can dream 😁!!
#“I wanna share my two cents on this” I just wrote 3 full paragraphs#i am curious on what fellow tamlin stans wish for tamlin#let me know 🙏#ultimately i just want him to be happy#and i just happen to hope that doesn’t involve him giving up#acotar#a court of thorns and roses#a court of silver flames#acosf#tamlin acotar#pro tamlin#spring court#high lord tamlin#anti sjm#sjm critical
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There’s a huge difference between scouring every single SJM post, what colours she’s wearing, book props in the background of her interviews, depending on biased articles that Sarah didn’t even write etc, for “hints” on your favourite ship, and then actually having evidence from the authors own mouth.
And that’s what makes Elucien stand out compared to other ships in the ship war. Elucien is the only one that has been confirmed by the author herself. They’re the only one with proof from SJM. They’re the only one she has openly doted on even after the acowar era, where 98% of another ship’s interactions occur.
They are the only ship that is confirmed to be mates, not only by the book, but by SJM herself. And they’ve been confirmed mates for 8 years. 8 years and the bond is still in tact with Sarah showing no intention of breaking it up at any point!!!
…yet somehow Eluciens are the “stupid and delusional” ones.
#acosf#pro elucien#elucien#lucien vanserra#pro lucien vanserra#anti elriel#anti elriel stans#elain archeron#pro elain archeron#pro elain#sarah j maas#acotar#acomaf#acowar#acofas
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okay so i'm not a fan of how nesta was locked up in the HoW basically
so i've been thinking of ways that would be better to help her
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1. i think the ic should help her get a job in velaris (or outside of it if that's what she'd prefer). one that would cover her bills and necessities - not alcohol. one that she would be responsible for, to make a living for herself- one to create her financial freedom.
maybe - if they wanted her to help at the library - that could be the job?
and if they can't trust her with just having cash, someone could hold it and give her access to it under supervision - only to ensure she doesn't buy alcohol
2. definitely not ruining the house she chose - letting her stay there under the condition of making it a bit more upgraded.
just simple things - fixing sinks, installing something to keep the place warm, getting a bed frame.
maybe overtime a talk about moving to a nicer place of her choice?
3. take her to counseling - something like the priestesses have at the library.
even if she doesn't speak at first. even if she's mean - giving her an outlet to express her feeling verbally.
4. if they need her to train or get to know her magic - let it be under certain conditions.
if she wants to do idk some prythian form of yoga - let her. she doesn't need to become a warrior if that's not what she desires - and if they need her to be able to protect herself then the required training should focus on self defence.
and exploring her own magic - it should be with a mentor of her choice - one that will put her well being first, not the possible future use of her abilities.
the ic shouldn't use her skills unless she agrees.
i am not sure what else but if someone has any ideas i'd be glad to read them!!
#acotar#acosf#a court of thorns and roses#a court of silver flames#anti acosf#pro nesta archeron#pro nesta#nesta acotar#nesta acosf#nesta supremacy#nesta stan#nesta#archeron#nesta archeron
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Dipped a toe and snooped in the pro IC and Co. tag just for shits and giggles and it's crazy how so many can't seem to comprehend general criticism of the acotar books and will call people or stans of other characters abusive and idiots and whatever else for simply being a stan of (name character) but do not see the total hypocrisy in their own faves. The abusive nature of their faves. The favoritism towards their faves. The manipulation both from and of their faves.
Many resfuse to see how all over the place SJM writing generally is and I find it hilarious how when it's stated that SJM retcon blatantly to fit the 1st person narrative of the book it's bullshit people and antis are hating for no reason, but as soon as it comes to ACOSF it's lies pandering to pro Nesta despite the story being written in 3rd person from both Nesta and Cassian's POV. I'm sorry, your fave Rhysand has always been a dick. They'd take everything in first books as gospel, but the moment it's Nesta's or even Bryce’s, it's not true? It's biased. It doesn't count.
Hmm...odd
I don't like ACOSF. The story wasn't about healing, but beating a character down into submission and as a Nesta stan, I still critique it because...I can and I will. Cassian can go fall down those stairs and give the usefulness of his wings to Emerie.
If they want to read the books blindly, go ahead, but don't get mad when others actually internalise and think about the messages being spoken. Everyone digest media differently, and that's OK. I personally like reading about ambiguous and indepth characters. Not a fan of being told how to feel and what to think. The ability to ready between the lines and pick up things that aren't in big neon writing is preferable. SJM has the capability, generally, which from what I've seen, is why TOG is far better recieved, even with the criticism.
They say if we hate Rhysand or Feyre so much, why keep reading? Well, at this fucking point, we're all too deep in this shit show to stop. Call it morbid curiosity. These books have made me a masochist.
If you're an anti blog, keep doing your thing. If you're a pro blog, same thing. Who cares? We find our communities and have fun talking shit. But the unnecessary harsh name calling over something supposedly "not that deep" is wild.
#sjm critical#acotar#acowar#acomaf#acofas#acosf#anti rhysand#anti ic#anti feysand#pro nesta#pro tamlin#pro eris vanserra#pro lucien vanserra#jurian#queen vassa#feyre acheron#elain archeron#anti#pro#reading comprehension#critical#stan culture#wtf sjm#acotar critical
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People LEGITIMATELY believe that no one could possibly be harmed or killed during the toppling of a government on the brink of invasion…
What are the Feysand stans on??????
#AND y'all expect me to take this seriously as legitimate high fantasy with good worldbuilding?!?! 🫠#Anyway this is why I don’t vibe with other Feyre stans because you don’t call her white girlboss feminism exactly what it is#acotar analysis#anti acomaf#SJM critical#acotar#Spring court discourse
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