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spideymichelle · 1 year

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me explaining through my tears that zoya's and the darkling's dynamic goes way deeper (in the books) and it says a lot about zoya's relationship with authority and power but also safety as a whole because of the (almost) parental nature of their relationship like the darkling is already playing favorites with her by the time she is 13

they are close enough for him to pick her over a lot of the older grisha's at the little palace for the possibility of getting an amplifier something we know is so special and not something just anyone could have yet he gave zoya that opportunity and when she felt like she failed him for protecting and releasing the cubs it broke her in a million pieces because she doesn't want to disappoint him

the darkling represented grisha's as a whole. he was their leader, their protector in a world that hates them and wants them eradicated, for a power they were born with. it is the way the little palace was meant to be a sanctuary for grisha's to feel safe, a place where zoya felt safe, yet it was the darkling was the first to completely destroy it and kill any grisha that wasn't on his side he was their biggest protector and he killed them in cold blood like that absolute betrayal

it wasn't just about her losing her aunt, he took away her home, the home she made with her aunt and lada and the one she made at the little palace the friends she made he took everything from her because she believed him when he said they would change the world together like she put so much trust in him, she gave him her power and he broke it so easily that wound just festered on because the darkling betrayed her just like her mother did in the past

and it just parallels the darkling with her mother so well because as a young child just wanted to make her mother happy which meant getting the highest grades, eating only half her meals so her mother could eat the rest, and stealing fruit from the duke's garden so her mother could eat them something she could get severely punished for by the duke zoya a young commoner girl who is from suli descent like she could have died but her mother never stopped her from taking them again and again and didn't her mother truly never saw her other than a pretty face that she could capitalize out of

zoya didn't make a sound on her wedding, didn't cry a single tear on her wedding, and never spoke out because she couldn't bear making her mother angry until the only person who ever spoke up for her was her aunt who almost beat to death for speaking up for her and even then could only be spent little over 2 months with her (mostly on the streets) before being separated for the next 7 years when she first goes back when she is 16. (they did write to each other)

the only adult that "cares" for her was the darkling he had continuous access to her, to groom her, to make her his perfect little girl. she is so desperate to impress him, to be around him, to be noticed, and worst of all he does. he gives her privileges, the important missions and she gets to ride his coach with him like he makes it known and clear that she is special, unlike her mother he gives her the attention she wants. but it doesn't really mean anything to him

he has no issue switching her out with alina sending her faraway as a punishment just like her mother had no issue selling her to a man old enough to have grandchildren of her age

zoya being stuck in a vicious cycle of being abused by people who should be protecting her

and it just speaks volumes that is zoya is the one who advocates for the darkling's victims because if she doesn't speak for alina, genya, liliyana and baghra who will

it speaks to her relationship with nina, her worries, her concerns about her, i wonder if all she sees is a beautiful and powerful girl with a deep love for her country with no support, no family i wonder if she sees herself so desperately trying to prove herself to the world

basically zoya co-wrote would've, could've, should've

*will be edited after i had a good night of rest and crack open the books again

#since exactly one person asked here it is #zoya nazyalensky #the darkling #sorry if this doesn't make sense i wrote this when going insane #aleksander morovoza #alina starkov #zoyalai #please talk zoya to me

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corporaloretsev · 1 year

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Friends Couples who judge people together, stay together Requested by @vokrats

#malinaedit #sabedit #shadowandboneedit #dailyshadowandbone #shadowandbonecentral #alinastarkovedit #maloretsevedit #mal x alina #alina x mal #alina starkov #malyen oretsev #dailynetflix #my edits #malina tag #literally asked the lovebots 84 suggestions and i'm leaving it bland without texts sdjfjdfdj #i hope you like it ana :*

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aleksanderscult · 3 months

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That may seem random 😭 but I want to know what your favorite pro Darkling bloggers are.

That's a beautiful question actually. Because it also gives me an excuse to give kudos to some amazing pro Darkling bloggers out there.

I won't rank them of course and I have many but my most favorite are:

@stromuprisahat (I agree with everything she says about the Darkling. Also I absolutely love her posts where she throws dirt at the good guys. Like, yes girl remind me how they suck actually 😭)

@starlesszova (her love for the Darklina ship is immense. Also she gives light to the Darkling's dark side as well but that doesn't stop her from stanning him and standing by his side even more!)

@theweeklydiscourse (if you haven't read her metas, go read them now. She puts her thoughts into words so beautifully and the things she criticizes the Grishaverse and its author about are only facts)

@is-today-tomorrow-in-nz (same thing as @theweeklydiscourse. Her criticism about the good guys' bullshit and actions is so true and she understands the Darkling so well)

@greensaplinggrace (her page is only facts about the Grishaverse and the Darkling. She brushes off neither his bad actions nor his good ones)

@darklinaforever (the way she has exposed the fandom's and the antis' bullshit needs to be applauded)

All these pages support Aleksander and none of them ignore his bad side. But they just prefer to dig deeper not only inside his psychology but also the Grishaverse's problematic messages and the author's failed attempt to deliver a cohesive, satisfying and non-problematic story. They also acknowledge how toxic that fictional world and society is and how it had affected the characters' personality and actions.

Also, all of them have critical thinking. They don't eat whatever the author says with the spoon but on the contrary they judge based on their own opinion and common sense. Which is something very important.

#love all these blogs #i just wait every day patiently in the corner with a cup of hot tea for them to speak the facts ☕#i salute you #the darkling #aleksander morozova #pro darkling #pro aleksander morozova #darklina #anon asks #alarkling #pro darklina #alina starkov #grishaverse trilogy #shadow and bone #grishaverse

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calnexin · 4 months

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Ooh!! How about an Alina doodle??? I’ve missed her!:)

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#c draws #asks #fallen hero #fhr #sidestep #alina

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greensaplinggrace · 8 months

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🔥 Aleksander's mommy issues and if that plays a role in his relationships

I will say until I die that aleksander's relationships with others are defined by his relationship with immortality and thus with his mother - who not only taught him everything about it, but who has also been the only consistent presence in his life for over four hundred years. this is the woman that developed an emotionally codependent and incestuous relationship with him as well as groomed him into the type of man she would wish to have a partnership with, which further defines the ways he views himself, the world, other people, and his connections to them.

all of this correlates to his many relationships, but especially his romantic one with alina. he mirrors his traumas with his mother and therefore with eternity in his dynamic with her. he is simultaneously the perpetrator and the victim. where he spent hundreds of years forgiving his mother for her abuse of him because the alternative is eternal loneliness, he expects of alina the same level of forgiveness for his actions based on that same latent despair - because he was taught at a fundamental age that a dichotomy exists in the universe, and the only way to find anything good at all - safety or happiness or connection - is to center all needs around the threat of inevitable punishment. not punishment in any physical sense, but punishment at a transcendental level.

the reason baghra did this was to groom him. the reason any parent does this (and it is especially prevalent with religion and cults) is to control their children and guide them toward the ideal path (which is always the path they themselves are on).

like most abusive relationships, baghra relies on cult tactics to develop a dynamic with her son that erodes all boundaries and erases any attempt at creating them further down the line - effectively taking ownership of his personhood and growth. she redefines his emotional associations to link them all to herself, and she even takes possession of his body in a variety of ways, until she has molded the perfect partner. one who shares all of her values and so will never leave her side - and who is entirely and completely isolated through both a lack of consistently stable connections and the lack of ability to create them.

baghra has always, after all, had her control threatened most by two things when it comes to her son: his idealism - which drives his moral compass away from her - and his desire for other connections. which means that to truly have him as a partner, she must take control of these narratives herself. so, she must destroy his ability to connect, and she must mold his morals to fit alongside her own. meaning constant and consistent contact with him and every part of his life.

similarly, we see even this reflected in aleksander's dynamic with alina. aleksander attempts to relate to her in the only way he knows how: by exerting control and by guiding her down the path he is on - by claiming to know what is best for her. in the exact same way baghra has continually tried to repossess him throughout the years by leading him down the 'best path for him' - one that she defines as redemption through inaction. one that she knows could allow her to control him again through reestablishing his existential relationship with punishment, loss, loneliness, and fear.

she seeks to do this because she needs him walking beside her again, easily pliable. because while time has furthered him from her, she is at least still in his life holding some of the reins, but nothing has threatened her grasp on her son as much as another prospective partner. one that won't harm him the way she has and one that could easily reveal exactly how much of himself he has lost to his mother in her claims about living eternally. one that could prove to be a real, stable relationship for him - unraveling all of the threads she so carefully wound.

like baghra did with him, aleksander fosters a codependent relationship with alina, because he was taught that such a relationship is the only way to survive immortality (and that this is how relationships work at all). he desires alina to be his immortal companion, in the same way his mother desired him, because he longs - probably without realizing - for a relationship that is not defined by constant abuse. but he has none of the resources to break free of the cycle of abuse, because he cannot even conceptualize that the things baghra taught him are abusive.

everything baghra taught him, he repeats to alina. every lesson about immortality, he repeats to alina. the possessiveness which defines his relationship with his mother - the ways she controls his interactions with others and isolates him completely - this he mirrors also with alina. because the only framework he possesses for a long-lasting connection is his relationship with his mother, and he is so starved for real connection that he craves it.

he craves it because baghra made him crave it. because she starved him of affection and made him reliant upon her as his sole provider for it. then she destroyed any other source he might find. she did this because she wanted to ensure he would always come back to her and forgive her. additionally, they are in the position of being entirely unique, which only further provides another tool for abuse. it is so so easy to neatly isolate someone when they are already othered completely and have no reliable means of long-term connection but you. it is so so easy to starve someone and lead them to believe they are gorging themselves when there is no other source of sustenance.

but then comes alina. who is also immortal. and who is quite capable of not only walking down aleksander's path, but having aleksander walk down hers. and alina will give aleksander the sustenance he needs. alina will give a long-lasting relationship with real happiness and affection and touch and love. alina will make him realize that the ways he tries to fulfill his cravings - the ways baghra taught him - are wrong.

which brings the situation to the plot.

alina's moral conflict is falsely dichotomized into two things:

a) kill the 'monster' and believe the true social issues that caused it can be solved through inaction.

or b) give in to the latent 'evil' that comes with being grisha, reveling in power, greed, and selfishness.

baghra as the author's mouthpiece supports the former, which means alina's 'enlightenment' must eventually follow this path - for the true moral message to be conveyed. and this path leads her away from the darkling. thus, it is inevitable within such a narrative that she would have to do so.

however, contextually, baghra's actions when putting alina on this path are those of an abuser losing control of their victim. while she operates within a narrative role, she acts in a way that is easily identifiable. the very specific way in which baghra confronts aleksander's relationships with others in both the books and the show (especially his relationship with alina) is that of someone who wishes to remove outside influences from the perfectly tailored environment of their victim. if alina begins to trust aleksander and start a relationship with him, then this environment will be disrupted - possibly destroyed - and he will be removed from baghra's influence forever. baghra, as an eternally lonely person, cannot let this happen.

but she has a new way of living, now. one that her son rejects, because he is finally trying to become his own person and create his own path. so, she molds alina into exactly what she is and ties alina to her completely, effectively ruining her son's chances for any connection outside of her ever again. not only that, but she severs any future attempts at connection between them by taking control of the narrative about aleksander. meaning alina will defer to baghra about him, about morals, about what paths to walk and what actions to take. she will defer to her about anything that leads in aleksander's direction, because she must 1) do so for narrative purposes (and baghra is first and foremost the narrative compass) and 2) reject all associations with his character completely.

so aleksander is now trapped in an abusive cycle with both women, and the options are either alina, who is not only his abuser’s mouthpiece, but someone who has been cut off from any attempt at a connection with him completely. or his mother, who is in many ways relying on alina's treatment of him to drive him back into her arms.

aleksander, who cannot conceivably understand why he longs for another partner, must focus on alina. but as someone who was brutally stripped of any ability to connect healthily, he can only communicate with her one way - through possession, control, fear, and manipulation. and because she now erects the same barriers baghra does and walks the same path as her- well. the pattern of abuse continues.

so yeah. I think he mimics his relationship with baghra in his other relationships. he attempts to connect in the only ways he knows how, and when he tries to move outside of the box and connect in his own way, baghra intervenes. he is a centuries old abuse victim that will literally never gain the resources or outside connections required to develop healthy relationships. and sab is lauded as a narrative on the side of abuse survivors. lmfao.

send me a 🔥 for an unpopular opinion (x)

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whatimdoing-here · 5 months

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Breaking the Ice (2022)

#breaking the ice #judith altenberger #alina schaller #look it's so fun there's no angst at all!!!!!#(...probably)#but for real i liked this a lot #where to watch you ask? search the great google maybe something will pop up on that one site that starts with an r #but don't try to watch it while you work #there were only 2 gifsets that i found #and while that scene is very epic #there's so much more good stuff in the movie i didn't even capture it all #mine #wlwsource

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payidaresque · 1 year

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@taylorswifff asked: shadow and bone + 14 — favorite darklina moment 1.05

send me a number and a fandom and i’ll make a gifset! ✨

#tvedit #sabedit #shadowandboneedit #shadowandbonecentral #shadowandbonesource #userlolo #userbecca #userelenagilbert #userburn #tuserhaz #userthing #userquel #shadow and bone #alina x alexander #payidaresque.gif #ok ok so listen #i love this for a very specific reason actually #and no it's not the fact that they make out cause it's actually much bigger than that #it's the fact that none of it was actually an act #and when darkles ASKED alina if she consents #it's important for 2 reasons #1) he literally just could chose not to do that and proceed and 2) because iit's important to him #BECAUSE HE WANTS IT TO BE REAL and not under compulsion or pressure #because he wants her to trust him #not for power #but because he needs the feeling of..protection and just initial human knowing that he can actually be trusted #and by protection i mean the fact that HE can protect her #and that he's not just some monster who lost all his humanity to suffering and pain #alina is the only person who makes him vulnerable in all the ways possible #and he fights her bc of the fact that truly? he's CRAVING for that vulnerability and it scares the shit out of him

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marvelmusing · 6 months

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i need glitter and gold part 4 so bad 😭

I found what I’ve written for part 4 so far and there’s more of it than I remembered…

[18+ content below]

“Wait,” you say, placing your hand against Aleksander’s chest. He obeys you instantly, freezing in place to watch your expression intently. “Are you sure about this? Both of you?”

Aleksander seems to understand the concern in your eyes as he holds your chin tenderly between his fingers to ensure that your eyes remain locked on his as he nods softly.

“I’m sure.”

“So am I,” Alina says, and you tilt your head back to look at her.

Seeing nothing but desire and determination in her eyes, a small smile tugs at the corner of your lips at the reminder of how much they want you. Aleksander leans closer, tightening his hold on your chin as his lips graze over your throat.

“Do you know how many nights this week I had to fuck Alina because your existence riled her up too much to be satisfied by her own hand?” he purrs with a teasing grin. Then he whispers against your ear. “Do you know how many times I fucked my wife imagining it was you?”

A whimper falls from your lips as you squeeze your eyes closed.

“Too much?” he asks, his words faint.

“Not nearly enough.”

He grins darkly, fingers closing around your throat.

“I think we’re going to have a lot of fun together.”

#glitter & gold au #my writing #darklina x reader #aleksander morozova x reader x alina starkov #aleksander morozova x reader #alina starkov x reader #answered asks #thanks for the ask!

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thesmallestmanwhoeverlived · 5 months

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please don't say everyone when it's not true, the only other couple that attracted audience was zoenne, just check likes and comments on characters ig (don't know if they are still there or got deleted) and you'll see the difference between sobbe/zoenne and others.

just because zoenne and sobbe attracted the audience doesn’t mean they’re the only ones the audience cared about. so many people started watching season 5 for yasmina. yasmina and younes were great together, if the writers didn’t ruin every other character it would’ve been a great season. sobbe and zoenne may have attracted the audience, but the audience stayed for some of the other characters as well.

#wtfock #alina’s asks

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stealingpotatoes · 4 months

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the way you draw keftas is so pretty ✨

Now I want one for myself to wear and pretend that I am a prophesied Sun Summoner destined to destroy the Fold 😭

THANK YOU!!!! keftas are my absolute favourite thing to draw tbh and i keep drawing them thanks to my alina trilogy reread sooo... have some unposted keftas!!!! (pretend the alinas are u in a kefta)

(commission info // kofi support!)

#thank u for the excuse to post these lollll #genya safin #alina starkov #shadow and bone #grishaverse #my doods #thanks for the ask!

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buttercupart · 9 months

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@joseartcenteno asked: Hey Buttercup, big fan of your TGAMM artwork, and i have a question… Have you been thinking of doing Molly and Andrea together as besties?

yesss I love these two, I'm so glad to see them being friends now!

#the ghost and molly mcgee #tgamm #andrea davenport #alina webster #molly mcgee #oliver chen #my art #Lol i let this ask sit a while until inspiration struck/i wasnt busy but here we are now #im so happy to see them being such good friends! far cry from how they were in S1E1

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unabashedmoonlight · 2 months

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you calling baghra abusive when darkling is right there is.. interesting

I love both Baghra and Aleksander and they are both abusive people. You clearly already know of Aleksander. About Baghra:

How is continuously having kids only to then abandon them when they don't turn out the way you want them to not abusive? She did this because she wanted a companion to bear an eternity with. Pretty understandable. Pretty cruel. We all know what happened to Ulla. Worse must have happened to others.

I understand her reasons for not telling Aleksander about his father. She didn't want him to get attached to someone only to be hurt when they die rather quickly in the grand scheme of things. But that is not how a child should live. He should have gotten to adjust to having people in his life and then losing them instead of never getting close to anyone at all. The 'no friends' rule while understandable was not ideal.

She was fairly old when she had him. Her immortality had worn her down in ways. She wasn't emotionally capable of raising children.

She overcompensated with Aleksander. She didn't want to give him the issues she had because of how she was raised and ended up giving him different issues instead. "You will bow to no-one." Come on.

She is also pretty clearly an obnoxious, physically abusive teacher.

Also, the context was a scenario of Baghra raising Alina (a child she specifically kidnapped to save her son) who she would have killed, if she could figure out how, to stop her son from having this 'weapon'. She obviously would also raise her in a very specific way to shape her into someone her son could never get a hold of instead of letting her grow on her own.

#She had burned down a village just to save her son once #like come on #i love her a lot really #but how is this s good person in general #baghra morozova #aleksander morozova #the darkling #shadow and bone #grishaverse #anon #asks #alina starkov

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pansy-picnics · 2 months

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No idea if they would since they all live in a castle but how do you think the uknighted parents each would deal with empty nest syndrome?

AUDJSJSD NGL I’VE KINDA BEEN HOPING FOR A QUESTION LIKE THIS BC!! they DO. and they are NOT good at it. AT ALL.

ukd are very adamant on giving their kids the freedom they never had growing up, so as long as they’re managing their own duties they’re basically free to do whatever (though eugene can be a Little overprotective sometimes he means well). of course bc ilmari’s adopted and isn’t of any royal blood they end up being the first to leave the nest… i’ve already discussed that vaguely here, so this time i’m gonna talk more abt ryder!!

being the eldest of the twins ryder is technically supposed to take on the throne to corona, and people have a LOT of high expectations from him, especially other nobles/those who were….less than pleased with rapunzel’s approach to ruling. he’s basically seen as the “light” of corona and has been held on a pedestal since he was very young, which leads him to repress himself and puts a lot of strain on his relationships for many years- especially with alina who’s often left in his shadow (and he doesn’t mind it per se!!! but he does feel like her life is pretty directionless, and she’s always been rather dependent on ryder bc of it).

all this to say, eventually on their 18th birthday everything boils over and leads to a nasty fight between the twins. they both kinda realize that they need to grow up and branch out in their own ways- and ryder in particular realizes that he rlly just needs to get Away for a while. so going to help edmund in the dark kingdom seems like a pretty good way to gain some new perspectives!!

after all the pressure she was under herself, rapunzel understands this more than anything…..but that doesn’t make it any easier for her (or cass and eugene, for that matter) to accept. :’3

idk if any of you guys watched steven universe future, but i think they’d all be like this final scene like. ALMOST WORD FOR WORD LMFAO

in fact as soon as ryder even suggests the idea to rapunzel shes awkwardly slipping out of their painting session and running to cass and eugene in TEARS and they cry for a good 3 hours but obviously they want to be SUPPORTIVE and STRONG for their BOY!!! so they pull themselves together and when he brings it up again at dinner they’re like. “omg thats great!!! ^_^” and ryder is just like ?????????

and ryders almost a little hurt that they seem so unfazed so he tries to prod them like. Aren’t you guys upset. but they don’t budge. and so obviously right at the end as he’s saying goodbye to everyone and they’re STILL nonchalant abt it he just bursts into tears like “WHY AREN’T YOU GUYS SAD IM LEAVING :(“ and IMMEDIATELY the three of them all jsut run to him BAWLING

ryder rlly enjoys his time in the dark kingdom actually. obviously edmund and the brotherhood have a Lot of flaws in their approach to ruling….but that’s not rlly what ryder needs anyways. i think they’re very goal oriented and focused on what they can do as a unit rather than what other people think of them, and that’s a lesson ryder definitely needs to learn. not to mention he brings a lot of color to the place (both in a literal and metaphorical sense).

alina pretty much stays in corona tho…which her parents certainly aren’t complaining about. i think he really needs some time to stand up and take on more responsibility without ryder stepping in for him. the twins wont be taking on the thrones anytime soon, but i think when they do, they’ll end up switching- so ryder will be the king of the dark kingdom, and alina will take on the role as queen of corona. alina’s always had deeper ties to her kingdom than ryder did…not to his fault, but the pressure he’s had put on him just made it hard for him to focus on the things that Mattered, yk? he’s ended up being very stuck in his status, while alina has been a lot more down to earth and has always felt a closer connection to the public, if that makes sense… :3

but ryder and ilmari still visit all the time, and ilmari will take over the library one day too…like, raps, cass and eugene haven’t been Perfect parents by any means, but they’ve never failed to make sure their kids know just how strong, capable and loved they are. even though it hurts to see them go (and poor alina definitely has to deal with their theatrics and coddling for YEARS while her older siblings are gone), it’s very clear that no matter where they go, their kids will always know their home is with them, yk??? they love their parents so much and it just makes me so emo😭😭😭

additionally, i think uknighted dream kind of do some equivalent of fostering long after their own kiddos leave the nest… the three of them do a lot of community work, they have a lot of programs instilled for struggling families and kids alike. they end up helping pretty closely with a lot of the orphanages, not only with funding but also by putting in their own work. they visit a lot, come to tons of events…they end up forming a lot of bonds with the kids individually, or occasionally take them in when there isn’t anywhere else for them to go.

sometimes they know these kids for years, sometimes only for a few weeks…but they always try to stay in contact with them regardless. and even when that isn’t possible, they never forget about any of the kids they’ve met….so by the time they’re all old and grey, they basically have hundreds of pseudo-kids and grandkids all across the seven kingdoms, and in a way, their nest never really feels completely empty 🥹🫶

#tangled the series #rapunzels tangled adventure #princess rapunzel #tangled cassandra #eugene fizherbert #pansy-art #ask #tangled ask #pansy rambling again #tangled kids #alina #ryder #ilmari #atlus #cassunzel #new dream #uknighted dream #king edmund

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