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wondrousmay · 6 months
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One of the things that I really love about Anya is how empathetic she is. While she doesn’t really understand Yuri’s complicated thoughts, she knew he need comfort and she offered it to him in a way she knows how: giving pats.
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She did the same with the cow, Yor and Franky too. I love Anya a lot!
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kindaorangey · 8 months
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whenever loid has to conduct a therapy session to keep his cover
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sy-on-boy · 4 months
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Anya + unraveling the mystery of the Desmond family (and Damian being different)
When Melinda debuted, I wrote a post about how she was potentially a character against the Forgers because Anya hadn't met her (we gain insight into characters via our deus ex machina Anya meeting them and reading their minds). Anya has met her now and the narrative has established that she genuinely cares for Damian (even if she's still a mysterious character).
After a long time, Demetrius is finally here. He's still mysterious, but not antagonistic to his brother and still cares for him. Like I said in a previous post, Demetrius subverts what I said above because Anya cannot read him fully even if she's met him. But regardless, Demetrius is here, we've seen him, all four Desmonds have finally debuted. And in my mind, I can vaguely connect them to the Forger-Briar extended family:
Anya - Damian: The kids aiming for stella stars and seeking parental approval. Attached to their dogs. Occasionally heroic (dodgeball, handkerchief, bus hijacking), but ultimately silly kids dragged into "adult" political matters (Anya with more awareness than Damian).
Loid - Donovan: Standing in for WISE vs war, one of the central conflicts. They are fathers and authority figures. Loid, faking a job as a psychiatrist, seeks to understand people (as a fake job, but he also does this as a spy). Donovan famously declared that people would never truly sympathize with each other. A good, attentive father and a neglectful father.
Yor - Melinda: The mothers, the narrative kind of puts them in the background compared to their husbands, but we know they have plot behind them. Yor's job as an assassin is unknown to her family (sans Anya). Melinda has struggles of her own when it comes to parenting her kids / being married to Donovan.
Demetrius - Yuri: Bit of a stretch, but they're both characterized as genius brothers and on the side compared to the main father-mother-child trios. Yuri works for the SSS, in direct opposition to Loid. Demetrius is a middle schooler?? He’s a child so he’s probably not that involved in the main plot, and if he is, it’s not willingly / he was brought up that way. They're both younger (and less experienced) compared to the adults- Demetrius is still a child and Yuri is 20. Yuri's affection for Yor is overflowing and the Briar siblings are very supportive of each other. In contrast, Demetrius is passive and apathetic, but not uncaring.
Anya has met everyone except for Donovan. Anya thinks both Melinda and Demetrius are weird. And Anya thinks of Donovan as the evil super boss. To her, the Desmonds are "weird". "All of Sy-on boy's relatives are such weirdos" - not sure if it's just the translation, but this line seems to imply Anya thinks Damian is exempt to the weirdness of his family. After all, unlike Demetrius, she can read Damian's thoughts normally. And unlike Melinda (and Yuri, and Fiona), she usually doesn't get bombarded with an overwhelming wave of intense thoughts when she reads Damian's mind.
And that brings us to the next point - Damian's time in Eden and the positive influences he receives (away from his family). Damian and Anya are better friends now. E&E's loyalty and affection for him have been established countless times. Becky congratulates Damian this chapter. Despite Damian thinking people suck up to him to get close to his father, he has a group of friends who do care about him (including Becky who doesn't suck up to him). Outside of what we see from Anya's pov, Damian has teachers and his dorm mother (Jeeves too) who care for him. Damian isn't alone.
Damian is shown to be disconnected from his family for whatever reason. His parents didn't come to his orientation. Damian says he doesn't see his parents often. Melinda cares for Damian but isn't allowed to see him often / afraid to be seen with him (?). Damian has called Demetrius before but this is the first time we see him meet Demetrius in person. And we all know about Damian's goal of impressing his father. Damian seems to believe Demetrius and Donovan when close when they were younger (when Demetrius was slightly older than Damian’s age), but Damian receives no such attention. Despite this, Damian still manages to have a fairly happy school life with his friends and supportive adult figures.
I think Damian's growing friendship with Anya and the recent complete reveal of the Desmond family will push Anya into thinking Damian is not like his weird family. If anything, Damian is more like Anya and her associates. Post bus-hijacking, Damian from Anya's POV is seen as more likeable / sympathetic, even more so now that we know about his mother and brother.
Anya is a child who is exposed to some of the darkness in Melinda / Demetrius' heads (trauma from being close to Donovan?), and she doesn't really understand them. Melinda / Demetrius seem off to outsiders (we saw Yor’s reaction, Becky thinks Demetrius is creepy) but it’s only Anya who’s capable of reading their minds and knowing how weird their thoughts are. But Anya has a much better understanding of Damian, the youngest Desmond, who is a kid like her with understandable motivations (getting stars, impressing his dad) similar to Anya's own motivations.
Interesting to note that Demetrius, while at Eden, seems rather lonely and disconnected even within his peer group. When he walks down the stairs, the panel frames it as him being alone, while Damian has four friends with him. When Damian and Anya get their stars, their classmates are shown to be smiling / impressed. When Demetrius gets his stars, we see two of his peers sweatdropping, almost looking wary, while a blushing girl has her hands to her mouth. The story doesn't show Demetrius' peers celebrating his success. It feels like Demetrius' peers are used to him getting good grades but still in awe of how good he is, but... they're not really close to him. Demetrius is not social and says he doesn't understand people, and maybe he doesn't interact much with his peers.
This chapter also reveals Demetrius is not in regular contact with Donovan anymore, contrary to what Damian believed. So Demetrius seems removed from the Desmond family sphere, but also isn't super integrated into the Eden sphere (in contrast to his 6yo brother and his friends). We can believe Demetrius isn’t close to Donovan because he is annoyed (and triggered?) by the mere mention of his father. Clearly Donovan has done something scarring to both Melinda and Demetrius and their thoughts look weird to Anya. Damian, despite craving for his father's attention and being stressed about it, is still relatively unaffected.
From now on, I think we'll slowly get more information about the Desmonds while Damian remains separated from them in the narrative. Damian is introduced as a vital part of Plan B due to his connection with his father, but even Damian himself admits there's not much of a connection. Plan B is working (sort of) because Damianya are friends, but that doesn't mean it's easier for Anya to meet Donovan. I think the narrative has been pushing Damian away from being a plot device for Plan B to being Anya's genuine friend and a victim of the Desmond parenting. At this point, Damian is not really useful to the main plot and there's not much mystery to this 6yo child.
Damian still thinks of himself as a scion of the Desmonds and he’s desperately trying to get his father’s attention. But his dad doesn’t really care, his mom loves him but doesn’t want him to be near Donovan, his brother is similar and also seemingly doesn’t want anything to do with Donovan. Meanwhile, the story establishes him as a boy with a crush on Anya, a boy with friends who will readily sacrifice themselves for him, a boy who’s willing to protect his classmates. All around Damain, his peers, associates, and the story itself has long been defining Damian as someone outside of being the Desmond family. But Damian naturally holds onto it.
Damian isn’t mysterious to Anya because she can read him. Okay, she still thinks he’s a brat sometimes, but that’s Damain being Damian, not Damian being a Desmond. But everyone else in the family is mysterious and it makes Anya feel at least vaguely uncomfortable.
The Desmonds are probably connected to Project Apple, and with the recent hints of Anya’s backstory, we might get some of that. But Damian is framed as almost completely separate to whatever went on, while Melinda and Demetrius are portrayed as victims of Donovan, mysterious and a bit weird but still sympathetic.
And that’s why I think it’s coming together— hints of Anya’s backstory, Damianya becoming better friends, the Desmonds all here. We’ve scratched the surface off and we’re hopefully going to see more.
(Also, just a thought: if Damian indeed goes through a “dark arc” and becomes more like the rest of his family, Anya will know because she can read his mind. She will be able to tell if Damian’s thoughts also start being “weird”. But they are better friends now which could be a lead up to her helping Damian deal with the pressure and struggle.)
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romor · 6 months
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I got bored and decided to reread Spy x Family and I realized something important (at least I think it's important).
When Anya first meets Twilight she was trying to convince him to take her even before knowing he was a spy. She tried standing on her tiptoes before she read his thoughts about the mission. There is also this narrator comment after she is chosen
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She just wanted anyone that would take care of her. In this case she chooses Twilight to be her caretaker and is excited at the idea of it being a spy that takes care of her.
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Then there is this moment
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Anya was going to run, she was going to listen to Twilight and go to the police until he heard his thoughts. This is the moment she picked Twilight not as some cool spy to take care of her but as her dad.
But another important thing that happens in this very first chapter is this one scene
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He threatens him, where it will hurt the most. The man's daughter, it's not the bullet to the head that is the threat, but the way in which he can hurt Karen. The man's weakness is his daughter. He had Edgar make a choice, keep looking for me? your daughter suffers, leave me alone, I leave her alone. Edgar had to choose between his "mission" or his daughter.
But Twilight still hasn't fully accepted that Anya is his daughter, he lives in denial about it. So it is still too soon for him to be put in a situation where it is Anya or his mission. We all know he will likely have to make the decision to continue being a spy or become a family man. For most of us that means that his mission or daughter moment would be that moment when the decision to quit being a spy is made. Re-reading that made me wonder if it will be a more threatening situation, whether Twilight himself will end up facing a similar threat that Edgar did in the first mission gun to the head and all.
The reason I believe this is because Anya had her moment of choosing Twilight as her dad but Twilight hasn't chosen to be her dad. He is still reluctant.
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teenytraveler · 1 year
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In which Loid finally gets his well deserved sleep 🥹
(...casual meg rambles in the tags like the madman that i am :”D)
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loidbriarforger · 4 months
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Okay, walk with me here: so McMahon has a ring on his finger, meaning he COULD be married and to whom, we don’t know. That being said, this opens up the potential that later on in the story, there could be a chapter where he and his spouse(?) could go on a double date with Loid and Yor, wherein someone from Garden outside of Yor comes face to face with Twilight.
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Shopkeeper, already suspicious of Loid after Yor tells him about Loid’s interest in the Desmond party, tells McMahon to keep an eye on Loid and pseudo-interrogates him about his political interests. Loid gives a safe answer, but still prompts McMahon to look more into who Loid Forger is; somehow leading him to figuring out his true identity as Twilight.
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cresneta · 4 months
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「93」
You know how Loid just asked Anya about her past and how questions about Yor's feelings for Loid have come up a couple of times in recent chapters?
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I now really want him to ask Yor about how she feels about him. She's given him some mixed messages in the past, so I wouldn't blame him for asking for clarification. It might be too early for that, though, so I'd also be fine with him asking something else that he wouldn't have asked her before, maybe something about her past.
I could be wrong here, but I think Twilight may have given up on trying not to get attached to the Forgers towards the end of the mole arc and that this may be why he's more willing to ask Anya about her past and may be more willing to get to know Yor better as well. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
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tare-anime · 6 months
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I notice that Endo always slips in subtle hints of sxf world building whenever he make an Eden kids focused chapter.
In the latest chapter 88, he slips in rumours:
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We have a "King Willy the second" and "Queen of enemy nation".
It makes me think that there might be kingdoms in the land of Ostania, or in adjacent lands nearby Ostania. Perhaps this kingdoms already gone, or maybe there're still exist?
This really brings back a theory regarding Anya as the descendants of an extinc kingdom, due to her hair color, and her ability to speak "ancient language"
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Even though, the "ancient language" can also means Anya overhears the lab scientist listing all terminologies in latin words.
Another example.
Back then, at chp. 42, he slips in
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Pastry of knowledge. With a big picture of Apple. An Appe of knowledge. In Eden Academy.
Apple. Knowledge. Eden.
A reference to bible, in which someone in Eden might know a forbidden information, in corelation with Handler Sylvia's teaching to Twilight: knowledge is a very dangerous weapon.
A fact that there is a space race in the sxf world
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Or a fact that Mr. Green knows a secret code for Ostanian people who deflect to the West
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So as much as I really enjoy chapters where Endo shows us kids acting like kids (with all their dramatic antics); which emphazise Twilight and Yor's resolution to stay in the shadow in order to maintain peace so that these kids can always enjoy their time being kids; I will always squints my eyes for these clues. 🤣🤣
I love Endo and his way of storytelling.
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stariousfalls · 9 days
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Finally got to see the family in theaters!! Waited so long for Spy x Family Code: White to come to the states!! 🥰
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h0estar · 2 months
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after i read chapter 95, 6 completely made-up and entirely impossible scenarios of what i wish would happen entered my mind and i hurriedly typed them all down in discord in a frenzy oops
my favorite made-up scenario would probably be where for some reason, anya completely forgets about damian and the mission and chooses to dance with juice man (loid) instead. she'll get bullied ofc for wanting to dance with a "servant" or for choosing a "servant" over damian but she doesn't care because at the end of the day, she loves her dad and she's grateful he adopted her. loid becomes even softer for her, and then the two of them have a little father and daughter dance and it's the sweetest thing ever.
and then maybe this could be a hint to her mysterious backstory!
anw, i'm just rambling. scroll along people. let me live with this cute moment as my personal unwritten fanfic in my head for a while :')
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o0kawaii0o · 2 months
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wondrousmay · 2 months
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I personally don’t want Anya to be a spy when she grows up. While she idolizes Loid/Twilight, Bondman and their spy lifestyle, I don’t think she truly understands the dark side of this life yet. I think Loid and Yor wouldn’t want Anya to live this kind of life either. It goes against what they are fighting for. They want her to have a life free from violence and pain.
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kindaorangey · 2 months
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some of my ideas for a role reversal au<3
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aakipple · 2 years
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he does his best
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mcclens · 3 months
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Everyone's familiar (and sick) of the Buddy Daddies being compared to Spy x Family thing. But I was thinking and realized something funny--
In SxF Yor and Loid try hard to look happy & married for the facade and their fake family. In BD Kazuki and Rei never really try that ? they're already written to act and look like "an old married couple" (director's words)
And yet the side characters (like Anna, Shigeki, the moms) think (know) they're more than friends who have a daughter together.
I think that's also one of the reasons why I like Kurusu family dynamic more. Because it feels more real and is never an act and they never try to make their family seem "properly real" in the way the Forger's try to seem perfect. I mean at the start they're like "ok we gotta play pretend family!" but post ep 3 it was all natural lol
After Rei accepts himself as Miri's father and after their talk with Misaki, they're already committed to Miri, and I remember watching SXF and just thinking WHEN are things gonna move forward?? The slowburn is burning too slow I'M IMPATIENT when is loid gonna accept anya as his daughter--
Sure, Yor and Loid are strangers, compared to Kazuki and Rei who have lived together for 3+ years.. and share a bank account... But it feels like they're still stuck at that "strangers" bit for the whole first season. I'd call them acquaintances even lol. But I get it, SxF is slower and has more of a slowburn, VS Buddy Daddies that had 12 episodes + 4 cd dramas. But even then, BD was easier for me to get attached to. (But also. I'd absolutely KILL to have BD have 2+ seasons like uhhhh yes give me all the "unnecessary" fillers and random stuff, I want to see it all, anything, I'll take it. ANYTHING. PLEASEEEE)
Also I'd call SXF a pretty vanilla anime, it's meant for all ages, it has a lot of genres that appeal to a wide range of audience (like romance, comedy, action, fictional fantasy (mind reading, loid's costumes...)), it has a fun concept, nice characters... It doesn't have blood, death, the idea that the main characters could die, no lives are at stake, it doesn't have the same approach to childcaring like BD has (the whole daycare episode, oof), it doesn't have same sex parents.
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keykidpilipili · 3 months
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Me at the beginning of SxF 94: This is just like the beginning of a ski lodge Detco case
Me several pages later: MISTER CULPRIT?????
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