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S01E06 – Two Aces
S01E10 – The Hope That Kills You
Jamie going from cocky and unbothered by what Ted was saying to dissociating because he reminded him of his dad when he started shouting gets me every freaking time.
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Ted Lasso Text Post 16/???
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love this headline
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Ted Lasso (the show) really said
Jamie’s dad = why he’s an insecure, emotionally crippled bastard that lashes out to subconsciously isolate himself from others whilst simultaneously never feeling good enough which leads to a constant need to prove himself
Jamie’s mum = the reason why, deep down, he’s a massive fucking softie.
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One of my favorite things about the Ted Lasso fanfic community is how dedicated we are to killing James Tartt Sr. I've read so many fics where he dies, and I eat that shit up
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Just watched the Wembley confrontation approximately 30 times so I could write down the exact dialogue. And to get more of the body language and gestures down. The scene lasts for precisely two minutes. (37:07-39:07)
James pokes his head into the room asking, “Are you decent?” Laughs as he crosses the doorway.
James walks past the security guard to enter the room, puts his thumb to his nose, before saying to the guard, “I told ya” and then to himself, “prick.” Laughs.
James is only a bit into the room before he says to the room, “Oh, gentlemen, gentlemen.” He throws his arms wide and mockingly groans before laughing again.
James is now fully into the center of the room and turns a bit to try and address all of the team. Says “Hey, it’s a tough one lads. It’s a tough one, but no shame to it.”
“Cause, you know, we only ever” pretends to tap his temple like he’s trying to remember something: “beat,” does a few feet bounces and fake little punches, “uh, everybody we play.” Laughs again.
James turns to Lasso who does the quickest fake Midwestern polite smile while Roy stands next to him stiff and angry. Will is looking over his shoulder, between the two coaches, stocking or taking out bottles from a mini fridge maybe?
“So you pups had no chance,” while once again spreading his arms. He finally looks right at Jamie and lets out a fake gasp before saying “Oh.” As though he is disappointed to see Jamie is actually standing there.
He points double finger guns at him while adding, “And there he is, my son.”
Says “My own flesh and blood” with mock grief in his voice. He stares at Jamie from half a room away, and bounces on his feet again.
“Poor Jamie, my son.”
He rocks his hips loose even as he brings his pointer finger to his nose. Does an exaggerated sniff. Then he goes back to addressing the room at large. Faces one way as he starts to talk.
“Now,” and he gestures with his right hand, then turns to take in the other side, “maybe I’m thinking his heart’s still in Manchester” and he gestures with both hands slightly towards his own chest “and that’s why he missed that sitter in the first half.” He points a finger into the air like he’s having a eureka moment.
Chuckles. Does another of his fake sympathetic groans.
“Oh ho ho.” And then lets out a little “Whew!”
Then starts tiny jogging towards Jamie while sing songing “You absolutely bottled* it.” He stops to throw his head back, arms wide, and then straightens up to slow walk closer. He laughs while saying, “You bottled it!”
Then he’s only a few steps away from Jamie and starts pantomiming some boxing moves. Ducks just a bit, has his hands in fists doing small jabs. “What were you thinking?”
Then he is right at Jamie and continues to do the small jabs, not hard, but landing like small pokes right against Jamie’s stomach. Jamie ever so slightly steps back. James pauses for half a second and then does an extra jab pushing Jamie another half step back.
James lets out a teasing “Ah ah ah.” Then “I’m only kidding, hey.” Before laughing again with a bit of a cough in the middle.
Ted does not look impressed and Roy has titled his head back a bit to squint at the man. Will is focusing on the mini fridge until James starts talking again. This time more quietly and just to Jamie.
“Hey, look, uhh…do us a favor…” and he comes back on screen as he moves his hand from his face, while sniffing, but like he’d just gestured Jamie closer or perhaps had gestured to his ear to indicate Jamie should listen to him. He continues “and get Denbo and Bug past security.”
James moves his right arm to indicate the stadium on the other side of the wall. “They wanna go on the pitch-” then he mimes raising a camera and clicking it. Jamie’s mouth turns down into a frown while his head gives the smallest shake. “-take a few snaps and all that, yeah?” Before licking his lips, letting out another sniff, and bouncing on his feet 2-3 times.
Jamie finally says something, which is to answer his dad with “I’d rather ‘em not.” He stares a hair over his father’s shoulder, not making eye contact with anyone.
James looks a bit to the side, not in embarrassment nor seemingly worried what people were thinking about his son turning his request down. More like he didn’t actually need to look at Jamie anymore.
“Yeah, they only want to look around.” And he looks back to Jamie again but it’s because he’s miming a guy jab with his left hand while saying “It’ll only take a second.” Then mimes punching him right in the jaw with a weird sound effect noise. “Doosh(?).”
James mouth drops open into a wide grin and chuckle.
Jamie repeats himself word for word, “I’d rather ‘em not.” But he is slightly louder this time and looks right at his father. He nods his head ever so slightly.
Offscreen James responds with, “What?” Then focuses on his face returning to mockery.
“What, you’re not gonna all go moody little bitch” while looking Jamie up and down, continuing, “just cause you got your arse served to you on a plate, are ya?”
Jamie is quieter again when he responds with “Don’t speak to me like that.” Jamie is back to not meeting his dad’s eye even as James starts bouncing on the balls of his feet again.
Then he pushes a little closer in to Jamie, face seemingly open to hearing what Jamie has to say, before going “ahuh?”
Jamie repeats himself word for word for the second time. “Don’t speak to me like that.”
James repeats his “Huh?” while pressing closer again, head tilted as though to hear him better. Jamie tries to repeat himself for a third time but his dad interrupts with his own third “huh?”
When Jamie finishes, his dad says “Huh?” a fourth time and then pulls back a minuscule amount to look Jamie in the eye.
James says to him “Okay, well,” and James lifts his right hand to flick up in the air. “-let’s see if you can hear this, hmm?”
Beard is shown in the background seething. James is still right in Jamie’s face, where he sniffs again, before leaning a bit closer as though to whisper.
“You know that ‘ickle tv show’ you made?” And makes broad gestured quotation marks even. “You just made it easier for Manchester City” He flicks the first finger of his left hand up like he’s about to count off things but instead uses it to point at Jamie while adding “to kick you to the curb!”
Then he leans back with a grin to continue mocking Jamie. He even adds a tongue waggle of his own.
“And look where you are now.” He laughs in his face. “Twaddling about with a bunch of…”
He spreads his arms wide and spins 180° to address the whole room. “…amateurs! No offense, no offense.”
No one responds to him, so he gives more of a belly laugh, and scratches the side of his nose with his right forefinger. Then turns around, leading with that finger pointing at Jamie. Who is not only not looking his father in the eye, he’s truly looking downwards for the first time.
Then he flattens his mouth and starts to turn away with his dad going “Huh?”
James grabs Jamie’s left bicep with his own left hand, to swing him back to face him yelling “Don’t turn your back on me” then pushing Jamie while finishing with “you pussy.”
Jamie pushes off from the foot he’d stepped back from his dad with to throw his punch.
James hits the floor, palms stopping his fall, with a groan. He pushes half up onto his hip and puts the back of his hand to his face.
Jamie’s face is in a pained grimace.
He pants out “Jesus god” while glaring venomously up at his son. Which must be when he notices that Jamie is wild eyed and terrified. The grimace is gone and instead he looks stunned.
James laughs before pushing himself up to standing, Jamie’s mouth parts while his dad is saying “Oh, yeah. Okay.”
Once standing, James says “You can have that one for free.” And gets one bounce in while readying his own fist.
Which is when Beard grabs him and says “Time to go.”
While being dragged towards the door, James is still trying to fight Jamie. “You wanna go, big time. Hey? Let’s have it, Jamie!”
Beard almost has him to the door when James screams “Don’t you forget where you came from!” Then Beard gives his “watch the door” warning while pushing James’ head against the door.
Edit 2: @kaph123 asked if James said “balled it” (what cc says and I originally posted despite some questions) or “bottled it” (a more common expression). I did a relisten and it sounded like balled BUT also like the accent might be in play. @itsjustpoopeh listened with better headphones and revealed there was a bit of a stutter which indicates its most likely Mancunian consonant dropping and should be bottled. I changed it above!
Edited to add the comfort we all needed at the reminder of our tender human hearts from @thetarttfuldickhead 🤣
#jamie tartt#james tartt sr#james loosens his hips to prepare to fight the same way jamie does to prepare to train#thanks i hate it#ted lasso#roy kent#coach beard#willis beard#will kitman#abuse of an adult child#child abuse#verbal abuse#self defense#trauma
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It’s actually extremely frustrating that Jamie reaching out to his father and attempting to make amends makes a lot of sense for who he is as a character, because the rush-job the writers did of showing it, plus having it collide it with “oh James Sr. is in rehab so ALL IS WELL father and son reunited in harmony <3” sends suchhh a dangerous message to abuse victims. im never not going to be pissed off about this
#the thing is. did Jamie reaching out to him make sense for jamies headspace? yeah. was it the healthy choice? NO#if they wanted to tackle that reunion they should have actual written it in a thoughtful way instead o shoehorning it in#in approx 1 min of screentime#ted lasso#Jamie Tartt#james tartt sr#tw abuse
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Talking with @jamiesfootball about Jamie's Dad after they made this post and how the poor lad just wants a Dad that isn't the biggest piece of shit and they said if James was even a halfway decent person Jamie would likely be shouting that he was the Best Dad Ever.
Which got me thinking of little baby Jamie (I know he wasn't actually a baby but it's like how a dog is always a puppy) when his Dad came back into his life, and Jamie never cared that much about not having a Dad because Mummy said she loved him enough for two. But still, sometimes he did want a Dad when the other lads had theirs around or when he got made fun of for making a Happy Father's Day Mummy card at school.
But, now his Dad is here. And he's nice and little Jamie probably went around thinking he did have the Best Dad Ever.
And he did.
Until he didn't.
And Jamie spends the rest of his life chasing that high like an addict. Drugs give you dopamine right? And the first time you take a drug, the high your body feels can never be replicated, but drug users are conditioned to try and try again. And that's essentially Jamie, trying again and again for that dopamine hit of having a good Dad.
It's the hope that kills you.
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tw: james tartt sr. (slight mention of abuse)
i know this isn’t an unpopular opinion or anything but i need to talk about it because it makes me so upset but like…
JAMIE WOULD NOT FORGIVE HIS DAD THAT EASILY LIKE WHAT?!!
guys that scene in the end of season three where he’s in the rehab center would just not happen. first of all, james would never get sober unless he had to (so he’s probably mandated by the court to be in rehab) and even then he would not stay sober. he just wouldn’t.
and yeah, i think jamie would be glad that his dad was in rehab, because even if he hates the piece of crap he’s still going to have that hope that he can get better, but he would not be going to visit him and smiling and laughing with him like that. i will say that jamie might go visit him, but the healing process would be a long one for jamie and he was not immediately feel comfortable around him like that.
just because his father is in rehab getting better and he probably apologized does not mean that it makes up for a life time of abuse. let’s not forget all the damage that james has done to jamie not even in the series but as a child (specifically amsterdam) and probably much more not even mentioned. I feel like this scene pretty much excused all of his abuse and it’s icky.
shoutout to all the fan fictions i’ve read that don’t keep james sober!! (and further using it as a plot device for angst)
#time for another opinon post#no one is asking for these but i keep making them#justice for jamie tartt honestly#justice for us for that last episode too#jamie tartt#james tartt sr#ted lasso#ted lasso text post#tex post#oc#royjamie#roy x jamie
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thinking about how during jamie's breakdown at the press conference in 3x11, roy jumps in to defend jamie against himself with "jamie also led the league in assists this month, so he's done plenty to make his teammates look good" and jamie immediately dismisses it because "yeah but they're the ones who took all the shots."
thinking about how jamie then hurries to denounces the validity of his goal because it was supposed to be a pass, it doesn't count, it's not good enough.
thinking about how jamie ended season 1 getting a boot thrown at his head for an assist that won man city the game. you're better than that, jamie. over an accomplishment, something he should get to be proud of, celebrate.
thinking about how jamie doesn't know why he's freaking out about going to manchester yet james tartt's words are pouring out of his mouth.
#this episode destroys me. fave of all time#mom city#ted lasso brain rot#jamie tartt#james tartt sr#jamie has ptsd
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I don’t think people really talk about Jamie’s whole “Lust Conquers All” stint enough. Like can you imagine how Jamie must have felt after trying so hard to break free of his father and his fucked up stream of abuse only for people to constantly criticize and shame him for it? Like obviously they didn’t know why he was doing it, but it just must have really fucking hurt. Not to mention, it’s a show centered around sex, and it’s reasonable to assume Jamie probably got slut-shamed after. Considering Jamie’s past sexual abuse, that probably made it a lot harder.
Also, I really don’t think Ted or anyone at Richmond understood the power they had over Jamie right after he came back. He self-confidence was probably fucking destroyed, but he was trying to maintain a facade of self-love and stability because he didn’t know how to be vulnerable at point (especially since he was sent away the last time he opened up). Not to mention, Richmond was literally his one and only chance. In his mind, if he fucked up even slightly then he wouldn’t be able to play football at all anymore. Can you imagine the stress? The pressure??? And then the rest team start acting like dicks to him, and he doesn’t even feel like he can stand up for himself because he doesn’t know where the line is at because nobody told him and nobody is there to help him. Like Jamie probably would have done anything to make sure he was able to stay at Richmond, even if that meant letting people walk all over him.
All I’m saying is that doing that show probably fucked him up more than anyone realized or acknowledges.
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wait wait James and Jamie's signet rings match??
they do <3
james in 2x08
jamie in 3x03
silver band, black stone, i want to say they were probably like. father-son gifts for jamie when jamie signed his premier league contract with city but that's just my Thought
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royjamie fic prompt (im begging)
ok but like imagine jamie being bullied online for wearing bright colours/makeup (concealer, mascara + lipgloss because he’s definitely into that clean girl aesthetic) or having his hair done and painting his nails.
{maybe he does a vogue get ready with me showing his skincare routine and the toxic masculinity football fans can’t handle it!}
and normally it’s not a big deal, he’s always been known he was attractive since he was a sexy little baby, so why wouldn’t he use tools to enhance his appearance! and he’s definitely blocked out hate from the stands before.
but the more hate the video gets/ people talk about his ‘femininity’ {maybe ‘fans’ come up with a homophobic chant or something } the more the voices/comments start to sound like his dad (🤮), who’s kinda back in his life since rehab.
{and who’s still kinda a dick even sober… who knows how long that’s gonna last}
and just like, before manchester, season 3, jamie stops washing his hair, doing his skincare, wearing bright colours and maybe even waxing! and ROY IS WORRIED!
bonus points//
roy takes jamie home and washes his hair/does his skincare for him
jamie has acne! or breakouts when he doesn’t do his skincare. (this fucks with his mental health more)
it’s pre-relationship (they get together at the end tho) or are new to dating and roy is trying to navigate a low self-esteem/no confidence jamie!
phoebe makes an appearance (she paints jamie’s nails maybe)
the richmond boys are worried/beg roy to do something!
it’s a 5+1 fic
roy wear a black skirt to a game and tells the press to fuck off with their toxic masculinity bullshit and to mind their own business! footballers are allowed to express themselves however they want!!!!! - this is probably the most important bonus point haha! maybe the whole team does it in solidarity???
this hasn’t left my head in days so feel free to add ideas now that ive probably put it in your brain! this is also a free for all, so steal this idea and write away! please!please!please! 🥹💞
#jamie x roy#roy x jamie#royjamie#ted lasso ot3#bisexual jamie tartt#roy x keeley x jamie#jamie tartt#roy kent#james tartt sr#jamieroy#mom city#ted lasso
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The thing about S1 Jamie that I think is interesting is I think on rewatch there is some insight as to why Jamie went so hard on the bullying of Sam. (Not gonna be defending Jamie's treatment of Sam just looking into maybe why). Because out of all of the things Jamie did is season one. The one that seems hardest to understand or really forgive is his treatment of Sam. The first time around, you couldn't understand it. Sam is legitimately the kindest man in existence. (I know as a stroyteller it was the easiest way to really get us to dislike Jamie and really make us more understanding of Roy's treatment of Jamie which to be frank is not great and understand Ted's fruatrations with him) and Sam just keeps trying with Jamie.
But know I think it far to say thay S1 Jamie was jealous of Sam and his easy going, happy, postive nature. I dont think he was aware of it though.
Season 1 Jamie is so interesting because on paper, he had everything he thought he wanted. But I dint think he was overally happy. But yeah it seemed to be all his way
1. He played for the team he grew up supporting and dreamed of playing for. I imagine his first time stepping on that fiels in that uniform would have been monumental. Sure, maybe he wasn't a starter, but he got some minutes and the unspken agreement that in a few years, he would be a star.
2. I imagine he was initially disappointed to be loaned out, but then he learns he is being loaned to Richmond. Yeah they suck, but he gets to play a full 90 minutes, is basically going to be the best player, kick most of thier goals and he gets to be team mates with Roy Kent (he dreamed of playing against him one day, with him is a dream come true, I really think pre show Jamie would have been so excited to play with Roy Kent and was so disappointed in how it turned out). Plus, it has the added advantage of getting him away from his dad. And once his done his loan, he can come back to Manchester. This is his chance to get away from it for a while and be the star
3. He meets and gets to date Keely Jones who his always had a crush on. Dhe is literally a dream girl for him
So he should be happy right. His got everything he wanted, but it's not going the way he expected because.....
1. Roy Kent hates him (in my mind Roy was standoffish from the start, heres come this whizkid who was everything he used to be and slowly losing. I think Jamie came in at 100% and immediatley put Roy on the back foot). Jamie tries with Roy but the more it doesnt work the more Jamie goes OK, if I cant make him like me I will show him I am better than him. Hence the beginning of that relationship.
2. Yeah his away from his dad and his killing it at Richmond, scoring their goals, winning them matches but it only seems to be winning over half the team (he can't see yet his attitude is what is stopping the other guys from liking him). And the team still isn't doing great even with him. Plus he may be away from his Dad but his relationship with his mum feels like it in a werid place which sucks cause she is his favourite person ever.
3. And Keeley seems to be where its going right but sometimes it feels like his a bit of a project for her. And I think he has heard people (like Roy) question why she is with him.
And let's face it, he is still likely hearing from his dad when he doesn't perform up to his standards.
And then heres Sam. Who (at this point in time) isn't playing well, isn't scoring goals, not massively contributing to thier wins and yet he seems so genuinely happy all the time and everyone loves him, Roy Kent seems to like him and is friendly with him, complimenting him (which he has never done to Jamie). Sam is so open and kind he has probably talked about his dad in the locker room, and his relationship with his family seems perfect and that must gnaw at Jamie because all he ever wanted is to make his dad proud and his pretty sure he will never achieve it because the man is a d***k who is impossoble to please, yet Jamie never stops trying and things are werid with his mum which he hates. But all he hears when its brought up from Sam is how great his family is.
Then along comes the new gaffer who Jamie can't even understand why he is coaching, but he also seems to love Sam and wants him to be the decoy so Sam can kick the goal. Even though Jamie knows if he kicks it, it will go in.
Now we all know the reason Sam is liked is because he is an amazing, kind hearted, dedicated person, but I think S1 Jamie is so jealous and does not even know it.
Because S1 Jamie is still living with the notion that being the best in the most important thing ( thank you James Tartt Sr) so to Jamie he is out here busting his ass at training to be the best, scoring all the goals yet Sam seems to be the one who is living what he thought his dream time at Richmond was going to be. And I know I mention it but I think it is a big thing for Jamie, the harder he tries the more Roy seems to despise him, and take enjoyment in his embarrassment.
And S1 Jamie in all maturity handles his jealously by trying to make Sam feel as bad as he is feeling. Which Jamie, baby. That's kindergarten mentality. And poor Sam actually thinks Jamie is a great player and would love to learn from him in the beginning and isnt having a great time either.
But yeah. I dont think Jamie ever disliked Sam. I think he was insanly jealous of him all the time and didn't know how to handle that or even admit it himself.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. Apologies for my rambles.
#ted lasso#ted lasso meta#jamie tartt#jamie is such an interesting charchter#sam obisanya#roy kent#james tartt sr#is and absolute ahole#jamie was incredibly jealous of sam#you cannot convince me otherwise#Jamie dealt with his jealously with anger#i do think season 1 Jamie felt empty even though he thought everything was going his way#i want to hug him#but also scold him for his actions#he really just neede proper guidance#not thay he would let anyone help at that stage#i also think his disappointment at his relationship with his idol roy was real#boy dreamed of being like Roy Kent only to find Roy Kent hates him#ouch#royjaime#because this 100% ends there to me
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I’m going to attempt to explain why the ending of Ted Lasso re: Jamie and his dad, bothers me so much. I know a lot of other people have made posts about this, and excellent ones, too, but I also have a lot of thoughts. These are just my opinions. Feel free to disagree. Feel free to discuss with me why you disagree. I love respectful conversations.
This is gonna be long. sorry guys.
tw/cw- James Tartt Sr., abuse, The Amsterdam Thing
not detailed, but they are mentioned. proceed with caution and take care of yourself, please. <3
It is not the decision to have Jamie reach out to his dad that I hate. It is not even the decision to put Jamie’s dad in rehab (though I do think it was… A Choice.) To me, it’s very unsurprising that Jamie would try to reach out to his dad. Not just because of who he is as a character, but because of what this kind of lifelong abuse does to a person’s psyche. A lot of kids who come from abusive or neglectful homes have an incredibly hard time cutting off their parents. Even if they’re scared of them, even if they’re angry with them, there is still a deeply ingrained need to be loved, that maybe this time it will be different. They’ll mean it when they say they’ve changed. They’ll love me. Going no contact is fucking hard. It’s also fucking dangerous. As much as Jamie says he’s done everything he has to spite his dad, there is a part of him that deeply, desperately craves James’s approval. Of course he would visit him in rehab, because, if he’s in rehab, he’s trying, right? And maybe this time it will be different.
But it won’t be. Because James Tartt has a pattern. A pattern of playing super dad, presumably where he cleans up his act and “makes an effort” with Jamie. Does father-son things with him, talks to him outside of asking for game tickets or telling him he played like shit (I’m hypothesizing here), lulls him into a false sense of security. And then what happens? Well, things like Amsterdam happen. And I highly doubt that was the only time he pulled that act. He likely also pulled it when he first came back into Jamie’s life, and probably other times after Amsterdam, too. What he doesn’t do, ever, though, is apologize, or take accountability for his past actions. Because James is a narcissist. At least, that’s what I would say. He feeds off Jamie’s fame and success to make himself feel bigger, important, entitled. And narcissists lack empathy. They struggle to take responsibility for their actions. They’re also, commonly, very manipulative.
James is not an abusive piece of shit because he’s an alcoholic. He is both an abusive piece of shit AND an alcoholic. Not only does acting like he was horrid because he was drunk perpetuate the stigma of substance use disorders, it also completely takes away accountability. James going to rehab does not change what he did. It does not fix what he’s done. It does not mean that he is magically going to win father of the year because he got sober. More likely, he’s going to continue to the cycle. I truly do not see a way in which we get to the happy ending of the show. Which brings me to my final point.
This is not a happy ending. Jamie going to see his dad does not fix things. Jamie forgiving his dad does not take away from his trauma. Jamie should not have to forgive his dad, not for James, not for himself, not for anyone. The thing that bothers me most is that the show plays this scene like it’s closure. Like everything is OK now, and they have a good relationship, there’s no fallout, no consequences, nothing left the heal. And I’m sorry, but that’s bullshit.
The things our parents do and say to us cut deep, at least in my experience. It doesn’t matter if they apologize, it doesn’t matter if they learn and grow, it doesn’t matter if we forgive them. That hurt stays. It sticks. You remember it. You feel it. There is no way in hell that seeing his dad wouldn’t be incredibly difficult for Jamie— just judging from what we’ve seen in the show. There’s no way it wouldn’t bring up all the trauma James has put him through, even repressed. It would not be easy. It would not be happy. And I don’t think it would be healthy.
Whatever Jamie eventually decides to do regarding his relationship with his dad, whether its cutting him off or choosing to forgive him, which personally, I don’t think he should (but I also know that cutting off a parent is no easy feat), it would take time, it would take effort, it would be a struggle. It would take actually working through the years of abuse and trauma caused by his dad. And we don’t get any of that. We get “forgive <3” and problem solved! And honestly, I think that’s a dangerous message to be passing out.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. (Hehe, get it?)
#ted lasso#jamie tartt#james tartt sr#jamie's dad hate club#the forgive plotline grinds my fucking gears into oblivion and i am going to scream it from the rooftops#i love you ted but you fucked it with that one#ted lasso apple tv#yes#i will be addressingthing in a fic#maisie speaks#tw trauma#tw abuse#tw implied sex abuse
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And speaking of sports betting, this fandom is woefully underutilizing the idea of James Tartt Sr trying to fix games.
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