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#But stuff like “one party hates the other” has never stopped shippers before and it's not gonna stop them anytime soon
kuzann · 1 month
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Some people are so weird like what do you expect to happen when you roll up on some ship art and tell the artist that you don't like their ship?? And especially talking down to them about it like? Okay dipshit fun police, enjoy the block you can fuck off now.
Incredibly rude, childish behavior.
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sizzlingpatrolfox · 2 years
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I hate how shippers make everything as dating thing, they don't even think Both r individuals 1st. Even their Instagram r scrutinized to see what crumbs as they say can get and I see this especially with JM, he posted pictures the other day and they made it as him seeing jk like he Cropped jk lmao (huh controversial opinion but it's all I see and it's not done with any bad intentions) 🤦 and same with hobi party like man with aura sitting but should make it into shipping picture lmao 🤦 and now white day (I doubt they even care about these, anyway) pic of JM is also have some meaning okay but what about jk man was online for days not a pic with JM posted why? Noone can answer. Be real anons for these nonsense theories and bring something that makes really sus. I literally don't feel jkk anymore, I started seeing them 2 individuals working for their careers building presently.
Yeah like, even if Jimin actually posted because it was white day, it's still even more circumstances of only Jimin celebrating jikook just like I said.
But the reality is that I'm with you on this one. I don't think they care about things like that, for several reasons. *All will be about socmed posts*
It's too heteronormative. Korean Valentine's day is supposed to be the day men get gifts, and white day is the day women get gifts. So I don't know how it would work. I have no idea if gay couples celebrate white day or Valentine's day or both or there's another day for gays.
I'm not sure Jimin cares, he seems to like matching stuff with his friends and he's posted selfies matching clothes with BTS members, so maybe he cares, but I'm still not convinced. But it doesn't have to be deep, matching could be something he just thinks it's cute, because matching is actually friends do too. Apart from that, I can only go by the fact that he's done a couple of Valentine's posts in the past.
Starting with this Very Important one (which was for the fans)
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This other one that he posted on 2018 Chinese Valentine's day. See, this one I thought it was intentional because of the "love ya_ #kook #jimin" but not because it was Valentine's day.
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Jimin has posted before for those holidays with what could be argued as intention, but the last time he did that was 2018. His first snow video was intentional, too. He would've done the same this time around if there was a "white day" intention behind his photo, but it was just a backstage photo where Jungkook isn't even aware he's being photograpped. So I don't think days like these are something super important for Jimin currently. If he cared at some point, I don't think he does anymore.
However, even if Jimin happens to care, then there's Jungkook to be considered. Jungkook has never done anything (not even posting one photo) so how am I supposed to assume that he cares about white day or Valentine's day when he's never said so and he's never showed in any way that it matters to him. Why would Jimin even bother posting for a boyfriend that doesn't care about that stuff?
Let's say JK doesn't care and that Jimin cares, does Jungkook just not mind that it matters to his boyfriend? Does Jimin have to be the only one posting every time? While Jungkook, the guy who is sooooo romantic [sarcasm] that he believes two people will meet eyes and fall in love over perilla leaves, hasn't really posted for white day or Valentine's day (not even for the fans) and now has even stopped posting for his supposed partner's birthdays.
It's all too stupid and there is no real pattern.
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dotthings · 4 years
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Since yes I do remember I have a tumblr and should probably use it to express myself because I’m wordy. After witnessing stan twitter 1,345, on a platform where nuance isn’t exactly common, I have some thoughts.
First: No EP or writer from spn has ever denied Destiel exists or ever told shippers to stop seeing or stop talking about it or mocked us for seeing it in their work. The writing team (which includes several queer writers) continues to work in textual level material as well as subtext and queer coding.
Second: A majority of Destiel fandom doesn’t harass and hate on the cast/crew/writers and we can see how Destiel’s now becoming increasingly textual in intent. We’re pragmatic about the chances of openly declared confirmation. That doesn’t make it less “real.” It’s getting more and more exhausting witnessing a subset angrily shouting down their own ship and attacking the show as a whole. That isn’t how I feel about spn and Destiel and I know I’m not alone on this. I’m not invalidating their rage. I’m tired of all of Destiel fandom being blamed for the behavior of a few and I don’t think the ones who behave like that are how most Destiel shippers act or how they see the situation (which is complicated) or how most shippers feel. Some are more wary than others, without being vitriolic or close-minded about Destiel and canon. Destiel fandom is not a groupthink.
Destiel is an important part of the show. It’s actually the relationship that is my personal heart center, and I’ve been yelled at plenty just for feeling that way about it, but it’s moot, canon made me feel that, canon gave me the ample content for Dean and Cas and their relationship, canon had opportunities to remove it, to end it, and never did. Instead canon built it up and added layers and made them even closer. Their relationship has been part of the A-plot. Even if it’s not the center of the show, it’s still crucial. (When are people going to get this simple concept? Something doesn’t have to be THE center to still be greatly important). For context, I’m a fan of Team Free Will too, and the bro bond, not just Destiel, and have been watching SPN since the pilot aired.
At some point under Dabb’s tenure on SPN, the way canon handled Destiel changed, from subtext, to moments where it broke into full text in ways I could no longer unsee how seriously the writing team takes this ship. I went from calmly resigned it was never going to actually be a thing, to the hair on the back of my arms standing on end because stuff was happening, and continued to happen, and it was no longer confined entirely to subtext, even if it wasn’t consummated or loudly confirmed.
Because there’s still people who straw man this kind of discussion, let me state very clearly: you are not wrong to want more open, loud representation.
Also: there is nothing wrong with wanting Dean and Cas to kiss. Or hoping for a sex scene. I’d be delighted if SPN goes that far. But if you’re out there insisting a kiss or some other explicitly sexual gesture is the absolutely, hard line the only way it will ever “count” you are hurting other fans, you are erasing the actual queer content. If you would burn the internet down in rage because Dean and Cas gets confirmation via a hand-hold or verbal confirmation or even a 3rd party statement penny drop when they aren’t even in the room, and claim that it doesn’t “count” and it’s “not enough” while you go on the attack, that’s not supportive of the ship or the work the writers have done to give it to fans as much as they can.
There has to be room for ships that fall between “loudly openly confirmed with sex scenes” and “nothing in canon backs this ship and it’s only fanon.”
Destiel in canon has had to date more canon build-up, more material, more arcing, than some canon ships in various fandoms. Yet people still deny its validity. Why is that? Why is that?
I’m not going around claiming a ship like that is incredible representation. There’s better representation available. Maybe go support that instead of obsessively attacking SPN, the crew, the cast, and turning against your own OTP.
There has to be room for multiple choice options rather than just “malicious queerbaiters!!” to allow for ships like Destiel where it’s obvious from the canon the creatives are taking it seriously in terms of story but are being held back from taking it where they would like to go with it. We won’t know until spn is over whether Destiel is getting its loudly open confirmation and consummation or not. I’m not making you promises, I’m not claiming to have inside info, I’m not claiming I know how this will go. I’m describing to you what I can see, with my eyes, so far, in both canon, which is borne out by extra-textual comments and incidents, but the extra-textual back-up is just support for what I can see in the canon.
I’d also like to know since when is fandom wank more important than the actual canon content. When did the drama and conflicts within the parasocial relationship between the people who make the show and fans become the thing calling all the shots here while people ignore the canon.
Let’s play a game. Close your eyes. Breath deeply. Imagine SPN canon, everything playing out exactly as it has in canon up to this point, but in fandom there was never a loud group of obsessed antis pounding in your ears calling you delusional or fake fans or ruining spn for seeing it. There were never antis repeating the weirdly contradictory “this show is about FAMILY so Destiel can’t be a thing.” There were never antis twisting the canon into uncrecognizable knots so they could deny and deny and deny how much Dean and Cas care for each other even as friends, along with their phobic anti-shipping concern trolling. There were never antis supposedly on your ship team (Destiel shippers who are hurt and disappointed at the lack of loud, open confirmation, which is valid, but some turned toxic over it) telling you there’s nothing there and you’re only being baited and it’s not real and you’re delusional for seeing it and a traitor to the ship if you see anything good for Destiel in the canon. Imagine you never heard of twitter.
Imagine that.
Would you doubt what’s before your eyes? Would you deny it was valid?
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miraculouscontent · 3 years
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Askplosion #12 1/4:
.:Asks Referring to Previous Miraculous Posts:.
Anonymous said:
I think that story with Delmar, Sabrina and Alya is only type of Alya demonization you accept.
(the post this anon is referring to)
Absolutely.
I also accept “demonization” for like--comedic purposes. For example, if they had Alya be all in on the love square and all no Marinette you’re not allowed to give up on Adrien if it’s Lukanette endgame and Alya’s (and possibly the rest of the girl squad) “demonization” is for the sake of their dramatic reactions to the mere idea that Marinette would be both not into Adrien anymore and also into someone else.
I just think the idea of turning things on its head by making the people around Marinette the subject of jokes instead of it being Marinette herself.
Anonymous said:
Alya going "Need Some Help?" reminds me of Karma and Nagisa from Assassination Classroom(I said it right this time!). Obviously Alya is Karma and Sabrina is Nagisa(and now Karma's jazzy motif is playing in my head). And Delmar is probably(and by probably I mean almost fucking definitely) Kayano. For real though, I didn't even know Delmar's name until I read that ask/response now. I mean, like, that's how forgettable and underutilized he was. And no, Ms. Bustier isn't worthy of being Koro-sensei.
(the post this anon is referring to)
Still not familiar with Assassination Classroom so I will let the other anons who are familiar with the series silently judge for themselves. ;P
As for Delmar, don’t feel bad; his name actually isn’t mentioned in the special to my knowledge, and it was a tweet that confirmed his name.
Anonymous said:
Oh yeah, the "Astruc gets hit with a washboard" was SUPPOSED to be a shout-out to Koro-Sensei Quest, in which Karma gets hit with a washboard(don't ask where it came from or where they go when they hit the ground, the world may never know) every time he acts like a smug-ass little bitch. You know, like Astruc. Often, the washboard will ricochet off his head and hit a red button, which then opens up a pit which Karma then falls in. In other words, Karma getting Karma! If only Astruc could too.
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khfjdgdg ahhh, yeah, thanks for explaining! I’ve always said that I’m not very media-savvy so sometimes I don’t know about more popular shows.
Anonymous said:
Eventually Salty Decadent Court
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lol we just slowly upgrade our way through the salt ranks
Anonymous said:
I was thinking about your edit of Desperada, and how I would definitely love to edit the ATLA finale to cut out Kat/aang and Mai/ko stuff lol.
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Oh yeah, that’d be amazing! I imagine it’d be difficult, but not impossible. Sometimes it might be better to sacrifice good shots or move scenes around for the sake of making things cohesive.
Anonymous said:
Kagami when adrien its back from NY: I'm sorry adrien, but I have feelings for two blueberries, we have to broke up
Adrien: eh? Broke up? We were dating?
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I like how this ask doesn’t specify whether the joke is that Adrien might’ve just been way too “friendly” with Kagami and gave her the impression that they were dating, or a joke on the fact that the show itself doesn’t specify that they’re dating, or both.
A+ 10/10
Anonymous said:
If Adrien does get akumatised because of jealousy about Marinette, I hope someone (Kagami would be great) points out that Marinette was never akumatised for that reason even though she had waaay more scenarios that could have turned out that way. So don't blame yourself, Marinette!! (I also hope Kagami yells at anyone else *cough*Alya*cough* who tries to blame Marinette.
(the “Didn’t Need Burrow” that this anon is referring to)
We just want someone unambiguously on Marinette’s side, is that too much to ask?
Anonymous said:
"It's difficult to animate" hasn't stopped others before (Lord Shen, the Phantom Thieves of Hearts, etc). You may do it as a hobby, but this are professionals who should have done more than the bare minimun.
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I agree. I’m just trying to keep things like budget in mind. A bunch of free-flowing clothing is fine but I’m basically like--okay, but you don’t NEED the stuff that would hamper the budget to make things look good.
Anonymous said:
I don't know why, but I'm picturing Ladybug confronting Chat Noir after he gets back from New York like a mother scolding her teenage daughter for sneaking out at night.
(the post this anon is referring to)
Honestly? Accurate.
Anonymous said:
Clara Nightengale: I sensed Marinette was in trouble, so I came to this school on the doub-- Jagged Stone: It's okay, I already got her.
(the post this anon is referring to)
jdhgdjkfgkjfg Jagged and Clara walking down the street together all cool, Jagged still having Marinette slung over his shoulder, and everyone watching is just, “??????”
passivedecept said:
Honestly
After reading your last bit i feel cheated that Jagged isnt included more
But it may be better that he isnt like luka's dad.
Can you imagion?
Luka: dad. I like someone.
Jagged: who?
Luka: a real nice and talented girl name marinette and- who are you calling?
Jagged: penny because we need a place for your wedding STAT!
Because i firmly believe if jagged had a son who was dating marinette he would do everything to get mari as his daughter in law.
Okay that was it. Love every fic and small bit you make. And i was wondering if you had your own fav. Like. What have your written so far that you like the best yourself?
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Do you mean it’d be better because love square is endgame so it’d be messy? Because otherwise, not gonna lie, Jagged meddling and being super supportive sounds fun. :P I’m not here for love square meddling but Lukanette meddling is cute because both parties would be mutually aware of it and also be into it.
As for my favorite fic I’ve written? That’s probably too tough to answer, ahaha. For sure, it’s something Lukanette-based, but I know that doesn’t narrow it down much at all. It would also probably be one of my fix-its/canon divergences because I’m crazy for multiverse/alternate timeline stuff (I hate time travel, but I’m all about multiverse, I adore that stuff).
Anonymous said:
In one of your Didn't Need Burrow masterposts, when someone said that Marinette and Adrien had kids and a hamster who'll get Miraculouses, I somehow misread that as "the kids as well as the hamster itself will all get Miraculouses".
(the post this anon is referring to)
I’m sure at least one of my anons would snap back at that with a joke like, “well, with the standards set for who gets a miraculous, I wouldn’t be surprised.”
rogueinthedigitalworld said:
Would like to pop in for a second to say that yes, Maribat *did* start out as a spite ship, because the original creator was a heavy Adrien salter and wanted someone to replace him… and chose Damian Wayne, for some reason. Since then, Marinette has been shipped with all the Robins (and from I can tell, they’re all warped into actuallynice!Adrien with two gimmicks added from the *actual* characters). I’m pretty sure I’m forgetting something, but that’s the gist of it.
(the post this person is referring to)
Thank you for the response! Yeah, I didn’t know if it was like Spider-man and Ladybug - which I don’t think is a spite ship but I might be wrong - so I didn’t want to say that it was a spite ship without being sure (and obviously, some shippers of it could be just genuine shippers, who knows).
Anonymous said:
Okay, but seriously, when I first joined the ml fandom I was so confused about the maribat. I'm not really a big fan of either romance or comics (except for sandman lol) so I kind of filtered them out but it's kind of an experience tbh. I'm pretty sure it started on tumblr though- everyone sites it as the ozmav au
(the post this person is referring to)
Thank you for the extra clarification, anon! Yeah, I have that ship blacklisted (so I don’t see it around) but not really out of hatred for it; I tend to blacklist names/people/ships that I’m either indifferent to or don’t like (I immediately blacklist people who write angst, people who cross tag, and people who do onesided-Lukanette and don’t tag it that, even if it’s just one offense; I don’t play games, lol, if anyone does something I don’t like, I filter it out because I filter everything).
Anonymous said:
Your images of Luka and Marinette kissing are so super kyute! What program do you use to render them?
(the post this person is referring to)
Thank you! I made them myself!
The program I use is MikuMikuDance, using an edited version of the shader “GreenerShader 1.14″
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whatiwillsay · 3 years
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Every shred of "proof" for Tily is based on stuff Kaylors have connected to Karlie. Butterflies, angels, golden tattoo,.. it's all core K-material and you guys recycled it for Lily. So the thought process behind this ship is also tinhatting //
I’m sorry Cam I know this is besides the point but it annoys me to no end when people don’t even read why others think these are “proof” and instantly call others tinhatty.
*disclaimer: I don’t belieb in Tily I just think Swiftwyn is airtight so it’s hard to think about how it would’ve worked but if Swiftwyn wasn’t a thing yeah maybe it stacks I totally see why others belieb I don’t think it’s tinhatty at all.
There’s nothing I hate more than taking shit out of context, then using it against people. Please learn to read and comprehend. It’s not like the proof is “ooh Lily wore blue/gold in this” or “wow Lily has a white umbrella behind her and Taylor also has a white umbrella in her house”
Butterflies
Kaylor: the mural looks like that one pair of wings Karlie wore
Tily: lily literally uses the butterfly emoji in stories about taylor?? Her highlight reel where she put stories that have something to do with taylor is literally named 🦋 and the cover of said highlight reel is literally the picture of the two of them
Angels
Kaylor: Karlie is a VS angel
Tily: the timeframe of when they were always hanging out, taylor started wearing a ring that was given to VS models who satisfy the following: a) walked in VSFS 2016 and b) already walked more than once. Lily satisfies both
Golden Tattoo
Kaylor: taylor had a golden butterfly tattoo on her back in Drake’s party and Karlie was also there at said party
Tily: lily literally has a tattoo that means “golden” in latin. And the other is: they both had on the same golden choker tattoo at different times (the times they wore it were close to each other though)
I’m not trying to convince anyone but I read things first before getting my panties in a bunch. Y’all are taking so many things out of context just to spread your hate to more shitty people who have nothing better to do than harass a queer woman creating a safe space for queer people to discuss. I get putting effort in something that makes people happy and gives them a sense of community but it’s so fucked up that you’re so obsessed with something that only makes you angry and miserable like pls get a fucking life.
it is besides the point but i appreciate you drawing out the differences between some of the kaylor vs tily content thats being passed around here.
but i want to say like… it’s also ok if kaylors want to look at all that stuff and analyze it and have fun and build kinship around that content AS LONG AS they aren’t being harmful about it. most big name kaylors did sink into antisemitism, homophobia, bullying, and other Bad Behavior. they have also gone far beyond “let’s theorize about this” they are in “it is a fact that karlie kloss had taylor swift’s baby” and THAT is why kaylors draw my ire and criticism. but i will defend kaylors right to have fun speculating in their own lane in non harmful ways always. like i get it. taylor was on tumblr liking pictures of karlie with captions suggesting they were hooking up. people are allowed to look at that and speculate if they did! i also defend haylors right to say taylor never got over harry and that they were hooking up in ✨secret✨until 2015, toe shippers right to say every song shes written since 2016 is about joe, and the bisluts’ right to speculate on if toe is secretly engaged or married.
if you are not being harmful, if you are staying in your own lane, if you are having fun fostering a community of likeminded people and finding fellowship as you chat about taylor (which is the culture she has built and encouraged around herself for over a decade) you should get to do that without drawing harassment or a bunch of manipulated, unfair, unreasonable criticism. like we should all just be kind to one another no? like if someone told me “what you’re doing is hurting me” i would want to know that and have a conversation about how i could stop hurting that person.
so even if the tily connections and clues were just as equally reachy as kaylor konnectioms (some of them probably are!), as long as we keep saying “grain of salt, no one knows for sure, this is just a theory we enjoy with some gossip that seems to back it up but we can’t know for sure” then the harassment would still be unwarranted and unfair. and i have ALWAYS said that and always will.
but yes i can’t stand people twisting my words out of context. it’s so unfair and lazy and stupid.
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hellolarkinuniverse · 4 years
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Did I make figurative wedding invitations for my favorite pairing because I just really need them to be happy together? Yes, yes I did. Fanfic writers, if you see this and want to use it for a visual in wedding fic’s please tag me and do it because I need to see all the versions of them marrying each other. My soul needs it.
Brownie points if the fics start with:
Midari getting the invite while being in a yakuza lair several years after graduation and laughing so hard she scares the yakuza because she’s proud of Sayaka for going after what she wanted before checking off the reservation card with blood and having a Shatei deliver it to the nearest mailing office (or maybe directly to the main estate she knows Sayaka lives at normally and it just makes Sayaka exasperated especially since she wanted her to be her bridesmaid but is now regretting her choice.)
Or Runa in the middle of an international esports competition beating the shit out of her competitors before crunching her lollipop and K.O. her opponent just so she can get a good look at the invitation. She "Nya ha ha” and makes a smart remark about them before sending off the reservation card before her next round.
Or Sayori delivering it to Yumemi while she’s on a netflix project in Hollywood and they both are impressed and sympathetic for Sayaka having to handle Kirari all the rest of her life. Sayori starts making plans to fly back to Japan between Yumemi’s filming schedule. Yumemi boasts to the directors and actors that she has a personal invite to the Momobami wedding as it will be the party of a decade and she *might* be able to pull some strings and get some of them in since it’s nothing but a big elite social event.
Or Yuriko being in the middle of shooting a bow and arrow at an impressive distance to split a apple (or grape idk) when she’s delivered the invitation and she’s so surprised she misses her mark before complaining that she has to go to show her respect to the powerful Momobami family but that mean’s seeing her former council members again (specifically Midari). She shivers and then sends off the reservation thinking about which Kimono would be most suitable and a gift that would be the proper fit for the two vastly different women.
Or Mary getting the invite in the mail before sitting down next to Ririka (sorry Yumary shippers) and tossing it on the coffee table because they already know and the invite is just a formal reminder. Ririka will be Kirari’s bridesmaid and even though Mary is going as her date Mary will invite Suzui to come with since Ririka will be tied up with a lot of the ceremony stuff and Mary refuses to go without having a friend with her if she has to put up with Ririka’s family (who hate her for being a peasant but can’t stop Ririka from choosing her) and old council members she had to put up with like Aoi, Sakura & Juraku (from the Twin Manga). She is relieved to know Yumiko will be there and Itsuki with Manyuda as her date since they both would be receiving invitations as well because their distant family/ Important business partners to the Momobami’s. This will be anything but a small gathering and Mary is not looking forward to it since this could be her future someday.
Or literally any of the past Councilors from the Kakegurui Twin series (state above) which I would think would be invited as well because Kirari wants to make sure they know she has her nicely manicured nails in them still and they have to give their respect to her even after so many years. Maybe they have plans to use this to their advantage somehow? (Sayaka already has a contingency plan in place though.) Juraka would probably just laugh since she never expected Kirari to stay infatuated with her secretary turned fiancé this long.
Or Kirari lilting about Sayaka firing the fifth wedding planner Kirari chose (because they promised to make it exciting as Kirari wanted but it would just turn out a disaster) so Sayaka takes it upon herself to plan the whole thing herself since Kirari is disinterested in the logistics and Sayaka is brimming with excitement because this is the ultimate step of making sure she will always be Kirari’s number one. Kirari doesn’t care about any of it as long as she gets to witness this new and alluring display of energy from Sayaka from now till after the reception. They spare no expense because this is a epic Momobami wedding between the Head of the Hundred Devouring family and her chosen beloved. It’s the party of the decade.
Literally any of these perspectives I will give imaginary brownie points to.
Disclaimer: I’m not Japanese. I did a ton of research on traditional formal wedding attire but I’m absolutely sure there’s things in here that are wrong. I know the white kimonos brides wear are to represent being ‘painted’ by the family their marrying into, I figure Sayaka would marry into the Momobami’s.  I added the Haori for Kirari because she’s sharing her name with Sayaka making her the ‘groom’ (even though their both women and their both brides). I tried my best to represent it correctly. 
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himbo-buckley · 4 years
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INTIMACY, SEX AND BUDDIE (BETTER KNOWN AS I HAVE A LOT OF FEELINGS ABOUT THIS SHOW, SOME OF WHICH ARE RELATED TO THE BEFORE MENTIONED TOPICS) - Part 3
Well, hello there (again)!

I got to say, this was both my favourite and least favourite part to write because by now all my theories are (hopefully) explained enough that I can just ramble about the characters and connections and ya’ll will forgive me if I stray away from what’s actually happening in this episode. Which I will do. A lot actually.
On the other hand side I have so many thoughts about what’s happening and this is gonna be long af as I started writing on part three at the same time as I wrote part 1 and 2 and I barely found things to cut, which means we are clocking in at a casual 7700 words. So maybe get that drink now, cause it’ll be a ride!
Also the links to part one and part two
And look, by now you probably know the drill but I’m just gonna give you my preface again:
This meta was supposed to be a lot shorter and only talk about how both Buck and Eddie use sex to distract their respective partners from whatever topic they actually wanted to talk about but since I decided to rewatch the show to make sure I don’t miss any such scenes, it has exploded a bit and taken on more topics
I should also mention that I am a Buddie shipper and while I tried, you will find several references and arguments for the ship in this Meta, not all of which necessarily call for a romantic pairing but just: These two are deeply connected and you cannot look at one without discussing the other and they are each other’s strongest emotional connection.
I should also preface this by saying that the whole of the 118 has some obvious intimacy / commitment issues except Bobby (which is sort of surprising) but *John Mulaney voice* we don’t have time to unpack all of that!
On another note I cuss a little in this Meta because my parents let me listen to TicTacToe as a small child and after that it never stuck that cussing is wrong so, uhm, parental supervision is advised or something
This Meta will so far have FOUR parts now. The original plan was to do three, one for each Season and is organised by episode so you could technically follow along, but due to personal reasons, also known as *feelings*, Season 3 has already exploded disproportionately and for readability reasons I have split it in two (this is part three, the cut will happen after Christmas, it works storyline-wise)
And now, for our next instalment of I read too much into things: Season 3A (also called: „Eddie Diaz, stop being such a boy scout (Wait, no, not like that!)“)
Episode 3.01:
911 as a show has a fairly interesting way of storytelling where it sometimes feels a little like they cut together snapshots of lives in regards to certain topics. And because of that you only ever see a small part of the lives of the characters. That being said: I hate hate hate how 5 months passed between the Season 2 final and the first episode of Season 3 and aside from a few offhand remarks we get virtually nothing. Also it’s very unrealistic that Bobby and Athena didn’t have any parties for 5 months, like nope, I don’t believe you show!
That being said, I appreciate how much time it took Buck to heal because it’s realistic! And also most importantly gets Oliver Stark a chance to truly shine!
I wanna take this chance real quick, to thank the producers and writer both for writing Evan Buckley the way they write him and for casting Oliver Stark to play him because omg, it works so well! Look, Oliver Stark is attractive. He is buff and handsome, but he is not perfect. He is Tinder-buff, not MCU-I haven’t seen a drop of water in a month-buff, he’s the kind of fit that will fill the whole screen one minute and make you say „Wait, I thought he was wider than this!“ the next (you know how everyone always talks about the hips to shoulder ration of Chris Evans? Yeah, the opposite of that) . And he has a really pretty face but his nose is a little too cocked and he has scars and there’s the „adorable facemark“ and he seems so damn dorky which is exactly why Evan „Buck“ Buckley works, why he is hot. And he gets to be emotional and sensitive and caring on top of that and yeah, I don’t know if I wanna be him or date him anymore either. Like he singlehandedly made me rethink my view on dating, just because I am hoping for someone like him.
Anyways, that’s probably something none of you wanted to read about in a META so we’ll get to the juicy stuff now, alright?
One thing that I realised as I watched season 3 for the third time just now is how often it repeats itself. It feels a bit stagnant at times, the way the characters make two steps forward and one step back all the time, most notably in Bobby.
I wanna talk about Bobby for once because you can not look at Buck in Season 3 without looking at Bobby as well. These two characters are connected the same way Buck is connected to Eddie. Most things Buck does character wise in Season 3 are caused by Bobby’s actions, in the same way most of Eddie’s are caused by Buck.
And the thing that 3.01 tells us from the get go? Bobby thinks of Buck as somewhat of a son (which we knew already) and Bobby sees himself in Buck, which is why he does what he probably hoped someone would have done for him the 10 or something years ago when he hurt is back and holds him back. There is also the fact that he tries to teach Buck to have a life outside the firehouse, though that is something he probably should at some point in the near future actually voice to Buck, because Buck on his own can not draw these conclusions from Bobby’s actions. Buck on his own thinks it’s about him not being good enough and so he works himself to the bone to try and proof otherwise. (Someone please just finally tell him what a good boy he is? Yeah?)
As for the scene during the party, you could actually see how much Buck had to force himself to be that open and that vulnerable with Bobby (and not just because he is *literally* having an embolism) and that hurts because to this day Buck has not realised that Bobby will always be there to catch him. Buck still thinks he needs to proof himself to Bobby because of his firing in Season 1. And would you believe I actually cried a little typing these words?
And now I’m gonna talk about my agenda, also known as Buddie real quick, and point you toward the fact that while we have seen Eddie be vulnerable with Buck and Buck be vulnerable with everyone else we have not seen Buck be audibly vulnerable with Eddie and I do not think this is a coincident at all.
Look, Eddie is a guarded guy, right? He has a hard time being vulnerable, a hard time asking for help, a hard time giving up control. But he does all these things with Buck and he does them willingly and with barely an outside push, which is different to say with Bobby. Eddie let’s himself fall with Buck and by doing so raises Buck’s self worth and gives him the feeling of being in control Buck craves so much (while Eddie sort of despises it because he feels like he always has to be the one in control), but it also means that Buck is afraid to let himself fall with Eddie because it might mean Eddie won’t trust him again. Buck generally is a very emotional guy and he doesn’t seem afraid to voice his weaknesses, in fact he is probably too aware of them and too willing to let others poke at them, except with Eddie. With Eddie Buck always tries for strong, because he knows Eddie needs him to be and because he thinks, if he’s not, Eddie will see what everyone else saw and leave him. On Eddie’s side I do think by now he is more than willing to catch Buck and still let himself be caught in return. At least at this point.
(also, if we do ever get Buddie I could see a reverse of the Shannon-Eddie situation happening where Eddie is the one being open and Buck has a hard time being emotionally vulnerable, afraid it’ll scare Eddie off and he’ll leave like everyone else.)
But then, one could also point out that Eddie probably knows all the things going on with Buck anyways because I truly think they know each other inside out and are two feathers of the same bird and same recognises same and all that - it’s just that Buck is someone who needs to actually voice his feelings to deal with them, so unless he voices his vulnerabilities to Eddie, for him, the other guy doesn’t know them. (Except Eddie does know.) (and man, I wish the rest of the 911 would finally figure out that with Buck you always - always - have to say things! You can’t just imply. You can’t think your actions speak loud enough. You need to actually use your words and do so in a way that leaves no doubt because that boy thinks so little of himself and he will make himself doubt every nice thing that ever happens to him.)
Now, moving back to what’s actually happening in the episode and why all of this is important:
We have the very important talk in the Station were text points out some of the things I just said and Eddie realises that he needs to do better, so he pulls a Buck and steamrolls him. (also do we truly believe that Carla was out of the country? Do we? Do we not think Eddie spent the whole ride over coaching his son on lying to his best friend because Eddie is just like that?)
Also I love how before this Maddie is talking to Josh and she says something along the lines of wether she should push Buck or coddle him and it cuts to Eddie trying the first.
On Eddie’s side of this meta we somewhat learn where Eddie’s issues stem from and it’s of course Daddy issues because this show loves them very much. (Seriously, out of 5 firefighters 3 have confirmed absent fathers causing issues and one has it heavily implied. Tim Minear, do you wanna talk?)
Also, Ramon Diaz probably threw in a „real men don’t cry“ with his macho speech about just brushing shit off and thereby emotionally crippling his child further, because he seems cliche like that.
Sidenote: The Buck and Christopher relationship is so beautiful and important and „Some cool outfits, too.“ is one of my favourite lines, though I do have to say - as someone who works professionally with kids - that this is what really shows how much Eddie truly thinks of Buck and how much he trusts him because it’s safe to assume that Buck has never been alone with Christopher or any child for longer and has never had to take care of one by himself and yet Eddie just trusts him to take care of his son for what is probably a 24h shift. Truly magnificent. An unparalleled relationship. So meaningful.
Episode 3.02:
No actual relevance but I do wanna point out that the thing about the mom being the love of boat guys life but her son being her’s? Yeah, that’s Eddie (and Buck).
Also, Buck’s just a natural at being a dad (not because of the fun stuff but the stuff when he knew exactly how to distract Christopher when those bodies floated by) and at some point I need Eddie to point this out to him and I need him to voice his jealousy about it, because Eddie? Not a natural dad.
(I actually think that is something that is true about a lot of things for these two. I mean yes, Buck is a hard worker but I think only in areas he is already naturally gifted (remember that whole thing with the Seals? “You just have to be badass, which I am?”) and he generally doesn’t try if things don’t come naturally because Buck hates failure because Buck already feels like a failure. Meanwhile Eddie seems like the kind of guy who has this huge capacity for learning, so even if something doesn’t come naturally to him (like fatherhood) he has the determination and willingness to try and try again until he finally gets it right and is perfect because Eddie, too, hates failure.) (And now I wanna see more about their childhoods because I could actually see Buck be somewhat of a gifted child in his youth who never learned how to actually apply himself and because of that has always been told he had so much wasted potential while Eddie was either an overarchiver or a slacker, I’m sorry I don’t make the rules. Or maybe I am projecting.)
Episode 3.03:
I read somewhere on tumblr that Ryan Guzman and his wife thought Eddie and Lena would be a thing and where actually on board and I was like? No?
I mean I do love the way she takes one look at him and decides he needs his ego checked (and also Eddie is like: ui, me like-y! (maybe because he misses another person that used to be an asshole to him right off the bat?)).
Also love all the references to Eddie being in the army („The 118 is huffing it“-scene comes to mind). Again, kudos to Ryan Guzman for always acting with all his body, because you can always feel the army training in his posture like the way he usually stands just a little bit straighter than everyone else (well, at least that’s what it looks like to me, someone who has not been in the Army and knows only like two people that got drafted and no one who went willingly, because my country generally doesn’t do that these days ).
As for what is happening in the episode, I think it’s a reference to Shannon that Eddie dealt with that couple that, despite loving each other a lot and getting along fairly well, decided to get divorced. Which is what 911 should have done with Shannon. (Me being salty about Shannon? It’s more likely than you think.)
I also think it’s a nice parallel the way both Lena and Buck are so desperate to search for their missing loved one with no regard for their own safety and I’m assuming Eddie saw Buck in Lena’s actions as well, which is why he trusts her so fast. (Because Eddie just like Buck is looking for connection and intimacy but Eddie is even worse at creating it than Buck, so he just tries to recreate the one working bond he truly has.) (Something actually proven in text by Eddie: becoming a firefighter because he misses the army.)
And I know everyone and their mother has already pointed out how Eddie was not worried about Chris at all because his son was with Buck and he knows Buck would never let anything bad happen to his son ever.
Which is why *that* scene is even more heartbreaking, because Eddie has so much trust in his Buck and kudos to Ryan Guzman because man, the way you see Eddie steel himself for what Buck is saying? The way you can feel him pulling himself together because Buck needs him to hear this. (Look, the scene is about a father learning from the person he trusts most in the world that his son might be dead and they could have easily forshadowed Eddie’s fighting ark by having him react negatively and violently here but instead he stays calm because it’s Buck and Buck for once needs him to be the one in control - also, on a less ship-y note because Eddie’s world is falling apart right there and he needs to keep in control because if he doesn’t, he will probably never be again.)
Which brings us to that scene in the loft, and listen, I know I said at the end of part 2 Eddie barely had any character development in the two seasons since we met him, but uhm, this scene? Proves he had some development, because right then right there he is so fucking vulnerable with Buck. It is of course part of him being a protector because just like with Shannon in 2.04 he realises that this is was Buck needs him to be right now, so vulnerable it is.
I do think however that it’s beautiful how Eddie apparently took the time during a fucking natural disaster to figure out that Evan Buckley needs him to use his actual words, so use his actual words he does.
And I do wanna point out that this is something he never had with Shannon, Eddie was never able to figure out what is wife of what? 7-8 years needed of him but he does know what his best friends needs. And wether that is just Buddie or just plain old character development, remains to be seen.
(Though we should mention that it wasn’t a permanent thing, Eddie does fail Buck a few times in Season 3 (but he also doesn’t a few other times) but we’ll get to that when we get to that!)
Also, honourable mention to Maddie Buckley-Kendall for getting that phone call and probably nearly dying of a heart attack and then having to race to the VA thinking the worst and probably imagining her very selfless brother either being already gone by the time she gets there or close to dead - only to probably arrive there and see Christopher in a bed with Eddie sitting next to him and Buck sitting vigil a few feet away because he doesn’t think he deserves to be with the Diaz’s anymore but he also can’t bear to part from them!
And another mention to the poor stranger who probably never got their phone back.
Also a teeny bit mad they forgot to give Oliver scars on his legs.
Episode 3.04
First of all I gotta say Eddie is such a boy scout goody two shoes with his whole „Well, it’s mandated!“ (also he’s been probably hanging out with Buck a buncha times in whatever many weeks passed since the Tsunami and  therefore knew how hard his best friend worked on this and he’s gonna be supportive, kay?)
That being said, remember when I talked about two steps forward, one step back? Yeah, that.
As for the lawsuit, look, we could argue all day on wether it was justified or not, but I personally do think Buck had a basis. But he was also acting rash and hadn’t thought all the implications through and should have used his words instead, but quick reminder: Buck has severe abandonment issues and he has problems with emotional intimacy - so the whole talking about it? Not that easy.
Also, imagine working for months to come back to work, the one thing you think you’re good at and thinking you have everyone’s support only to find out the person you love like a father has betrayed you, probably with the knowledge of everyone else. Yeah, you’d lash out too!
Even though, I have to point out it’s not his normal MO (which is why we see him regret it almost immediately in the next episode).
As for Eddie in this episode, he has not one, not two, not three, but four whole conversations about feelings! You go buddy-boy. Embrace that character development! Don’t take a step back! … or, nevermind, we all know what happens next.
That being said I think it’s interesting that while Chimney clearly confides in him, Eddie does not confide in him in return but rather talks to female!Buck. I mean, talking about his struggles with his son and his family worked with him and Buck so why not with him and Lena (cause Lena isn’t Buck).
I do think Eddie and Chimney are close, but Eddie just doesn’t feel the same connection to him as he feels to Buck.
As for Eddie being so beautifully open and vulnerable with his son and saying like the exact opposite of what he had been taught: Eddie loves his son. He loves his son more than anything in the world. And if Eddie can’t let himself be vulnerable with him, who can he be vulnerable with? Especially when it helps Christopher.
(Also, Eddie by now recognises what is wrong with him, he just doesn’t think he can change it but he can prevent it from happening to his child.)
Episode 3.05:
This episode has a lot of shit happening and I have a lot of thoughts, most of which are relevant to the episode. But we’re gonna start slow, ease you in:
Boy do I love overprotective Dad!Eddie! How long do you think did it took Carla and Christopher to convince Eddie to let Chris sleep over at his friends? A month?
In other news Buck is just the picture of regret during the deposition and yeah, he should be. The whole thing is harsh. Never sue your friends, no matter how justified, if you want them to stay your friends! But it’s so obvious Buck didn’t know it was gonna go down this way because he did not think this through at all.
First off: Remember how in part 2 I said Buck and Eddie’s storylines were connected and how earlier I said Buck was the catalyst for Eddie like Bobby was for Buck?
Yeah, that’s the episode for all of this.
It’s not as obvious as in Season 2 because usually it happens over two episodes but it’s no coincident that after last episode Bobby triggered that shift in Buck, Eddie is now suddenly careering out of control as well - it’s because Buck is his catalyst, his *trigger*.
Please watch 3.04 and 3.05 back to back and tell me Eddie doesn’t make a 180 between those episodes. He goes from worried about his son to punching people in parking lots. What changed? Well, he could no longer talk to Buck. And Buck is his anker and his catalyst, the one person he doesn’t have to be in control with (which he really could use considering what he is going through with Christopher). And when you take that away he spirals. (Also there is the deposition where his best friend betrays him by talking about his dead for less than a year - wife, a topic Eddie has been avoiding in regards to his feelings since … well, the day it happened, probably.)
And I’m not saying the whole street fighting thing wouldn’t have happened if Eddie wasn’t such a boy scout and said, screw the chain of command and just called Buck to bail him out, but that’s what I’m implieing.
Also the scene between Eddie and Lena, I mean, I’ve already talked about it somewhere else but I do wanna point you to the way it is phrased: Eddie „wasn’t allowed“ to call Buck. Meaning he wanted to. But you know: Boy Scout.
Now, let’s talk about the grocery store fight because I have so many thoughts!
And what I love about these two episodes, as well as the next one, is that they show both the connection Buddie has as well as the contrasts between them:
One of the biggest differences in Buddie is how they deal with fear and obstacles and it is visible throughout all their lives and specifically these three episodes.
Evan Buckley is a force of nature, he is a fighter, he sets a goal and he reaches this goal with a single minded focus, steamrolling through everything in his way until he reaches said goal. Just look at the lawsuit and remember how his original plan was to get everyone to sign a letter of support for him.
When something frightens him, Buck doesn’t run away he runs right into it, tries to destroy it or be destroyed. He fights. And if that doesn’t work, he finds a way around the problem, but always going head to head with the thing because Evan Buckley is very determined and very self destructive.
Just look at the way he held onto Abby for nearly a year after she had left: Instead of dealing with his feelings of abandonment and the fact that the woman he loved left him, that boy dug his heel in and fought tooth and nail to keep what little he had left of her, of them. Refused to acknowledge being left for months. And when he finally leaves he literally compares himself to a ghost, because you know, he is just an empty shell at this point.
It’s also why he falls so hard for Ali because he is just desperately looking for something to cling to and so he transfers all those un-dealt feelings onto her and then he get’s hurt and his problems become bigger and different and Ali can’t deal - not surprising considering they had barely a foundation. They just went from 0 to 100 in 2 seconds and that just never works out, unless you’re in a very expensive sports car.
I also truly think at times Buck hides behind the loud mouthed, dumb adrenaline junkie persona he got going on as it keeps people from looking deeper, because Buck is very scared they won‘t find anything deeper - or worse, decide they don’t like what they see (and hey, he even got that confirmed by Ali leaving! and Abby! AND MOST IMPORTANTLY MADDIE!).
(Which, to push an agenda real quick, is why I ship Buddie so hard? Because they do have a foundation, they have been emotionally intimate with each other, they’ve seen the worst of each other and still went: I’m gonna have your back. And they have pulled a lot of shit on each other in the two years since meeting! Like, I’m sorry 911, I love you, but please never try and tell me they will have a deeper connection with anyone but each other because it’ll be a damn lie and you know it! If you don’t wanna do Buddie, let those boys get emotionally healthy and THEN give them an endgame but don’t try and replace Buddie with Loveinterests. I’m serious. I might stop watching!)
Eddie meanwhile is much more open with his feelings in the sense that he is less open in general so it’s far more noticeable when something is bothering him *because* he is subtle about it. Because Buck is so loud and so open and all about what you see is what you get, you don‘t assume he is hiding anything because you already see everything, right? (Always hide the real shit in plain sight, you guys, that‘s where no one remembers to look!) But Eddie, Eddie keeps his cards close. Sure he is funny and nice but he is also fucking reserved! And when something bothers him he draws into himself even more and that’s something that shows, that people will take notice of.
Eddies reaction to bad things (also known as *feelings*, because that boy is fucking repressed) happening is running away. And I am not saying he is a coward, I am saying he probably thinks he is and I am saying he runs away from his problems - that’s what 3.15 was about for Eddie: embracing his family (his vulnerabilities) and from what I‘ve seen in the last few days floating around in spoiler *now* Eddie has to learn to face his problems and not run away.
Which will be hard because Eddie deflects a lot.
It‘s funny (in a way that is not funny) that Buck, the fighter, is like the least aggressive guy around while Eddie, Mr quiet and reserved, who is all about running away from his problems, is so physically aggressive - except it is not and makes a lot of sense.
Season 3 truly shows how they deal with problems and I love it, I love them and this show so much!
Because Buck deals with the bombing by working tirelessly to come back to work, he deals with losing Christopher by nearly killing himself trying to find him and he deals with his fear of being replaced by filing the lawsuit to get his job back - which is also why I have to agree with Eddie: Buck truly has a one track mind. He sees the problem and nothing else. That makes him an amazing firefighter but an exhausting guy to be around because he does not give up.
I think in canon we only ever see Buck give up twice, maybe three times once with Abby and once with Christopher, both times he nearly killed himself first. (And one could argue that neither of these times he actually gave up, he was just out of options and time.) Tbh the only actual time he gave up was with Ali and that was probably his one track mind just not having any capacity to deal with a girlfriend on top of everything.
Eddie meanwhile deals with his wife dying and his best friend nearly dying twice and his son being traumatised and his best friend not being allowed back to work and his best friend filing that lawsuit by ... not dealing with it. He just moves on. Runs away from his feelings and his pain by fighting. He can’t deal with - can’t fight - his actual feelings so he fights something else. He lashes out. Becomes feral. That’s literally the gist of this episodes voiceover!
So tbh as much as I like that they resolved that lawsuit within one episode I am a bit bummed that we hardly saw anything of the 118 and especially Eddie without Buck there (specifically during his fighting time) mainly because I think we would have seen Hen and Chimney with Cap and Eddie maybe with Lena but generally keeping his distance, hiding away from them. (I don’t think Eddie just brushing past Buck in 3.06 was just about Buck.)
I truly meant what I said about 2.01 and Eddie taking one look at Buck being an asshole and deciding this one is gonna be his friend. Because while Hen and Chimney have been nice and friendly with him from the get go, they never give him shit the same way they give each other or Cap or Buck, and Eddie needs that. He needs someone who isn’t afraid to call him out and push back, both to get Eddie out of his own head and to make him feel comfortable enough to do the same. Which is why he bonded so fast with Buck and Lena (also, would he have bonded with her like that if Buck had been there? Probably not. Eddie is like the definition of „I only have the emotional capacity to care about three people at a time and two of them are my son“), because both held him accountable for his shit, which no one else on the show does, specifically not Hen and Chimney who treat Eddie as the guy who is good at most things so they just overlook the shitty stuff. And Cap does the same, because Eddie has a lot on his plate and Cap understands his issues better than anyone else’s. 
Ya‘ll just need to watch the supermarket scene! It‘s all there!
Buck is in the store trying to create a moment so he can talk to all of them (meaning he is pushing, leaning into the problem until it gives), tries to make the problem go away by apologising (remember what I said about trying another way? Working hard didn’t work. Accepting his predicament didn‘t work. The lawsuit didn’t work. So now he tries talking it out - which he should have done to begin with, but hey, I’m not his therapist (sadly)) (It’s too bad it only worked to a certain level as we saw in the next episode but oh well, that’s actually realistic.)
Meanwhile Eddie has none of it because Eddie is currently running away from his problems so he can’t have his problem stand in front of him buying cat laxatives. So Eddie goes feral, and makes it all about Buck and his mistakes and then throws Christopher under the bus because that man is fighting for his life and he has nothing left to loose!!! I truly love this scene so much, you guys. It’s so revealing about these characters.
(I also shouldn’t have to point out that most of the stuff Eddie said to Buck was about Shannon, right? He was saying the things he was feeling about Shannon and he was throwing them at Buck because Buck was the one who brought it up, but also … look, it’s just ship-y from here all right?)
As for what I said about Hen, Bobby and Chimney in regards to Eddie? I know Chimney made some remarks but come on! Had it been any of them or Buck who yelled at someone like that they would have all interrupted and tried to diffuse the situation. But because it’s Eddie they sort of let it happen. (Also tbh because it’s Eddie and Buck and everyone is a little mad at Buck but they are something different to each other.)
Also, not to push my agenda, can we just talk about how comfortable  Eddie has to be with the 118 but especially Buck, how much he has to care, to scream at him like that? Because he is reserved and he always tries to let go of his feelings and he hides so much. And I know part of it is that Eddie is coiled too tight already and about to burst but it’s also about Buck and the fact that Eddie expected better from him because Eddie has such a high opinion of him. Like sure he gives him shit sometimes but I think it’s because Eddie always expects the most of Buck (and Buck rarely lets him down). (And now I did go all ship-y)
Just compare this with his relationship with Shannon: with Shannon Eddie always is the one to make decisions, in part because he believes that’s what a man should do but also in part because he doesn’t trust her - and that was even before she left. Eddie trusts no one but himself for the most part but he does trust Buck, because to Eddie Buck can hardly do wrong. Which is why the whole law suit probably hit him so hard cause he expects everyone to let him down all the time but Evan Buckley? The guy he trust with his son more than anyone else? That guy? He expected better off! And that my friends is beautiful.
As for the voiceover it does poise one very central question for Eddie’s character: If he gives up control, will he be able to regain it? Because that is Eddie’s biggest fear and why he always holds everything so tight: he thinks if he lets the floodgates open once, he’ll never be able to close them.
In other news: Ryan took his shirt off.
Episode 3.06:
Before I write another 2400 words about our boys, I wanna remind you of that scene of Bobby, Chimney and Eddie wearing sun glasses, with Hen wearing her normal glasses, standing round, looking like an album cover! *plays „Clique“ by Kanye West, Jay-Z, Big Sean*
Do you think Athena and Hen talked about Bobby and how he would / does handle Buck? They did, didn’t they?
Also love how Hen and Chimney are super welcoming because one, they know what it’s like to be the odd one out and two, they love Buck and actually see his point of view. I believe. Now if only someone would remember to tell him.
Like, come on, they probably sit in the ambulance gossiping all the time!
I really love that we saw some bonding between Buck and Hen and Buck and Chimney in this episode because as much as I love Buddie we do not see enough of those combos (we don’t see enough of Buddie either).
Also the whole two steps forward, one step back? That is Bobby in this episode.
Now, we have to talk about the apology scene because this is Buck, expressing himself, being vulnerable. I love this episode a lot especially in regards to this Meta because here we see all the things I explained for the last episode: Buck is expressing, trying his best to make the problem go away while Eddie avoids it.
Also, you know, there is the whole illegal fighting thing that is visible on Eddie and look, if you did something like that would you willingly spent time with the one person who will call you out on it or will you avoid him like the plague? Especially if the last time you saw him you were screaming bloody murder at him in the middle of a grocery store! And the next time you see him he calls you out for your bruising. Yeah, guys, that’s just realistic.
Also bit of a reach, but the reason this is part of my discussion of 3.06 and not 3.05, which is Eddie’s relationship to Buck. Remember how 3.03 ended? That beautiful moment that made Oliver Stark cry on Instagram live? Remember how Eddie said „It’s his turn to save you now.“? Yeah, what happened to that?
Okay, Eddie is not an expressive guy. He is bad with feelings. He hates having them. And here comes Evan „Buck“ Buckley and he is just the polar opposite. Sure, he’d rather not talk about his feelings either but he has a lot of them and he *likes* having all of them and he wallows in them and that is probably a lot for a guy like Eddie to deal with. Especially when I do think Eddie understands somewhat where Buck came from and he probably feels guilty af about making Buck feel like he was being replaced. About not seeing the pain Buck was in. About not being there for him - which is why he lashes out, because guilt can make the healthiest people do horrible shit and Eddie is far from any definition of healthy at that point.
But I do have to say I am reaching with this and if I ever meet Tim Minear I will have him explain the fight scene and the apology scene to me word for word because it has to be deeper, right?
It can’t just be Eddie lashing out, and saying exactly the things he knows will hurt Buck because he is mad mad mad? Yeah, I know, whatever.
(Because even if that is the case? This is still the scene where a guy uses his best friend as a substitute to get his anger for his dead wife out in a somewhat healthy manner.)
Which is why I love both these scenes immensely, because it shows exactly how differently Eddie and Buck deal with things, because Eddie avoids them or gets mad and screams at them while Buck, actually does something fairly healthy and try to talk it out - but like only as his last option. He tries anything but talking before that, except with Eddie because they are connected and he finally *finally* lets himself be emotionally vulnerable with Eddie.
Which is also why the apology scene is so important to me, despite thinking while a bit rash, Buck wasn’t exactly wrong in his actions. I would have hated if they just brushed the grocery store over or made it about Eddie and the issues he had at the time. Instead they gave us this beautiful scene where Buck finally - FINALLY - gets to explain himself to someone, especially Eddie, the guy who he hurt the most because Buck is his anchor, and Eddie actually listens and then he gets it and he is like, oh, I wasn’t wrong! He really deserves all my trust!
So you know, that’s just beautiful, wether it’s platonic or romantic.
Episode 3.07: no relevance
Episode 3.08:
I wanna say something right of the bat that is probably controversial as hell:
Eddie did not want to share with Bobby. Eddie likes Bobby, he trusts Bobby, but he wasn’t really feeling like sharing with Bobby.
The reason Eddie talked with Bobby about all of this? Well, first of all it was bound to happen, sometimes things need to be said and then it doesn’t really matter who you’re talking to.
Also Eddie? Boy Scout. Army man. Chain of Command. If your superior officer tells you to share - you share! There. I said it. (This is not a Bobby Nash - stan account)
Also: „A friend of mine told me I needed an outlet - think I found it.“ - no, you didn’t Buddy boy, it’s why I’m currently 10.000 words into an episode by episode analysis of your character! (can you tell I am slowly going off the rails with this?)
But I do love how we finally got to see sassy!Eddie again. I missed you, babe!
As for the kitchen scene and the look, yes, I know, Maddie was looking at them like that because she just called them out about gossiping and they turned around and gossiped, buuuut … ya’ll also realise that Chimney was apparently *not* aware that anything was wrong with Eddie when Eddie had been acting weird way longer then Hen. He nearly punched Buck in a grocery store, he comes in with new bruises like 3 times a week but sure mate, he is all normal! (Or you know, Buck is just hyperfocused on Eddie)
One thing that freaks me out every time I watch this episode is how completely fucking nonchalant Eddie seems by the fact that he nearly fucking killed a guy. To quote Lena Bosko, professional plot pusher: „What the hell, Eddie?“
And then of course 3.15 happened and we saw Eddie shoot multiple people, so he probably learned how to compartmentalise and I guess I need to remember this is a TV show and no one actually died. But wow, I really need this addressed more because I have such mixed feelings about this.
And with regards to this I wanna say something even more controversial: Eddie got off easy. Yes, the guy willingly went into that ring but Eddie nearly killed him and all Bobby wanted to talk about was why Eddie was fighting? Again: What the hell?
Another thing this episode firmly proofs is that Lena is really just a poor substitute for Buck because Eddie doesn’t actually know anything about her, he just uses her as a sounding board because, well, Buck wasn’t there and he was lonely?
As for the actual conversation happening, yes, there we have it, in plain sight, Eddie needs to be in control because he thinks this is what Christopher needs him to be and as I’ve said before Eddie will always do anything for Christopher, even if he hurts himself in the process.
Also, remember when Lena told him he needed to show and tell his son how he felt so Christopher knows it’s okay to feel that way as well? Clearly didn’t stick of he would not feel this intense need to be in control. Which is realistic, you don’t just unlearn behaviour you had for like 30 years just because someone gives you some good advice once! (Man, my life could be so different!)
I’m also not a fan of Bobby’s „She died.“ because while yes, it wasn’t her fault that she left this time, grief isn’t rational. And even without the looming divorce Eddie has every right to be upset and to be angry at the world, and yes, even his dead wife. She’s dead. It doesn’t hurt her anymore. (Although that would be one feeling he should probably keep from Christopher.)
Not to mention Eddie feels guilty as hell. His anger? Mostly at himself. The sentence “I broke his mother”? Broke me as well.
But I also understand Eddie because while he may be grieving, his son is clearly traumatised by the whole situation, as seen in 3.04, and Eddie is trying his best and look, his outlet wasn’t the healthiest but um, at least he realised he needed one? He addressed that? That’s growth (sorta).
Amount of shirtless!Eddie scenes: 2, which feels a bit like overkill for one episode (pace yourself, Tim, this isn’t Game of Thrones)
Episode 3.09:
Frank! My main man Frank! Ui, I love him! When Tim calls me to come consult for Season 4 because clearly by now I am an expert on his characters and the way they should act, I will tell him to bring Frank back. I miss Frank. I hope he’s doing okay. He deserves the world. Also really wanna meet Rosemary.
And hey, as someone who has worked in the mental health sector and probably will again come October (if I manage to finish my degree by then, urgh, Corona, you are destroying my thesis!), I love that scene on the sofa so much! All of them openly sharing that they have been in therapy and talking about their therapists and just, uh, that scene makes me all tingly!
Before we get into all the emotional things I’m just gonna add the scene on the sofa to my list of scene I don’t fully understand. Like, what emotion exactly was Eddie supposed to be conveying because to me he sounds angry. And why should Eddie be angry about Buck sleeping with his therapist? What reason could he have?
Okay, yeah, maybe it’s a little exasperation and annoyance because apparently Evan Buckley is just coasting through life and doesn’t even take therapy seriously. Idk. I haven’t read the script.
But it does lead us to Buck giving Eddie shit, because, as I’ve said before, that’s what Buck does.
As for the therapy scene, yay, there is a mention of the nearly dead guy! Who is not dead. Yay!
I do love Eddie’s reasons for going to therapy and really trying, even though he is not clicking with Frank. He is such a good dad! (Also I’ve been debating for like 20 minutes whether Eddie would be more comfortable sharing with a woman or with a man and for some reason (his connection with Buck vs his relationship with Shannon) I think he’d be more comfortable with a man. Idk. I could be wrong. - Also Eddie is probably always uncomfortable talking about his feelings, so there is that!) His reasoning shows also yet again what I said about both Buck and Eddie before: they are protectors. They will make themselves vulnerable to help someone else. It’s a thing.
Also I pulled out my pocket edition of ICD-10 to check and while we don’t have enough information to give a full diagnosis, it’s safe to say that he is supposed to be going through a depressive episode. Because yes, sometimes depressed people aren’t sad, sometimes they are fucking angry.
Now, as for the Evan Buckley of it all and that scene: I read another Meta by someone clearly much better at this than me that stated Eddie uses Sarcasm as a way to deflect, which is exactly what is happening here because Eddie is not as fine with everything that happened as he pretends to be. I think he has just come to the sudden and horrible conclusion that his tipping point has been Buck no longer being in his life and so he decided it was easier to just move on then deal with his feelings (which is what got you into this mess in the first place, Edmundo, so please rethink,) if that means Buck back in his life.
I also think Eddie deflects here because he realises how much what he did and what he said actually hurt Buck in return and Eddie doesn’t fully know how to deal with that. And look, if they actually start discussing their issues then Eddie will have to admit his guilt and Eddie will have to say he’s sorry and right then he is still too pissed to do so, so he decides to move on.
Ah, the wonderful clash of Eddie thinking actions speak louder than words but Buck needing to hear the actual words.
Sidenote: I sent the kitchen scene to my roommate, stopped before they played the video game and asked her what she thinks happened next. And to quote „Love me <3 <3 <3. Please fuck me“ - because yes, she did take one look at them and decide the one with the puppy dog eyes was a bottom. That’s also a quote.
Episode 3.10:
Eddie really is trying so hard to be a good dad, isn’t he?
I also love the little head shake Eddie gives after Chris ask Buck about spending Christmas with him, because he clearly has already talked about the whole thing with Buck. And I’m not gonna talk about the framing. Other’s have done that before and I don’t actually know that much about it in first place.
Also it is cute as all hell that Chris asked Buck in the first place and also heartbreaking.
Other than that this episode doesn’t have that much of a relevance for this meta, because if I have to start discussing Buck’s other issues as well this will never be done.
Before I let you go, I wanna say something real quick:
In the past few days there have been several posts about content creators and liking vs commenting / reblogging on my dash and I just wanna say this is true for meta writers as well! Look, I love everyone who likes this because validation, but I’m not actually writing this meta for myself, I’m writing this because I have thoughts and I wanna share them with the rest of the class and have the class discuss it with me!
So please, reblog this and comment under or in the tags or come to my ask or my messages, even if it’s only to tell me that my punctuation is shit! 
Anyways, @angelcamael and @greyhello here’s part 3!
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Jake Reviews Stuff: Star Vs: Friendenemies
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Happy pride all. I’m getting ahead of this one for a number of reasons:  1) It’s pride month and this episode is one of the most shiptastic things i’ve seen with two male characters since Robochris from bravest warriors. I mean it dosen’t quite reach “Creating a skull robot of your best friend because he won’t touch you a lot to make him jealous enough to do that” levels of romantic tension but it tries. 
2) My good friend @jess-the-vampire​ is a tomco shipper, and with things being rough for her I figure she could use this sooner rather than later. 3) Shows are actually coming back with Amphibia emerging from it’s year long odinsleep the same week Close Enough finally escapes from it’s dumpster after 10,000 years to conquer earth before it gets put back in there then escapes again and marries lord zedd.. I lost the metaphor the point is I want to keep Tom train, and other star arcs I have planned, moving at a steady clip. 
So with all of that yeah, i’m ready to go. No real exposition to dump again, come on let’s go after the cut!
We open with Marco at his laptop nervous about something and Star coming into his room tangled in christmas lights... so normal day at Casa Diaz.  Anyways Marco can’t help star out of her latest self made prison because he’s preording tickets to a Mackie Hand Film Festival. Mackie Hand is Marco’s faviorite martial artist and movie star, who died performing a stunt on himself.. accidentally.. did he give himself a death punch? Is this the same universe as regular show.. please say yes.  Anyway as is natural for Marco in the first two seasons as god apparently hates him, the tickets sell out instantly and he dosen’t get them, banging his head against his laptop as Star TRIES to comfort him , saying he might still be able to get them. Marco also says “Good things don’t happen to me”
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I mean just look at Season 3. Anyways tom comes in licking a rainbow snowcone for no explained reason other than they wanted to make it obvious this was the Tomco episode. Tom asks to hang out and after Star, understandably at this point given you know, the horrible date where he tried to murder her best friend and the gaslighting a few weeks back, tells him a million times no, Tom explains he’s not here for her.. he’s here for Marco. Marco, given tom’s threatned to kill him twice now and tried to at least once, isn’t biting. Tom naturally has tickets to the festival as a trump card, and assumes that time he kidnapped marco and played him in ping pong for his freedom counts as a friend hang out, and geuinely apologizes for his behavior promising not to get angry. Really while as you probalby know we DO get the reveal later he was partly doing this whole thing to finish his anger managment... I do get the sense this apology, and a lot of this is GENUINE. We’ll get more into the why in a bit, but he does seem to genuinely want to bury the hatchet.  Marco pulls star aside and, given the last two times he saw Tom, the boy had some horrible scheme up his ripped sleeves, he understandably, and as it turns out correctly, thinks Tom is once again up to some sort of scheme, star is fully on board. I have. mixed feelings about this. On the one hand STar did forgive tom for the previous episodes mess and Ponyhead for much worse and it does set up the tiny plot curnel of corn that would grow into an entire corn field of her still having some friendly feelings toward tom. But it just feels weird, even with how cahotic star can be to have her flip flop from “Stop calling me” To “You should totlaly go on a date with the guy who harassed me and tried to kill you twice now. “. Especially since next time she has an episode with Tom, She’s fully resentful of him and a bit snarky and spends and episode, in part thanks to aformentioned magical severed ponyhead, suspicious of him playing games with her head again. We’ll get there soon obviously, i’m just saying it feels mildly off. 
So Marco decides, much like bart simpson that getting where he’s going’s worth it even if he has to ride with the devil himself and reluctantly agrees. We see the inside of Tom’s carriage for the first time, and see my good personal friend dead horse again on the outside, and it’s really nice.. lit by torches because mood lighting, but similar to his room it’s plushly decorated and even has two serious speakers and according to Tom 6 flatscreens. Damn I wish I had one of those.. that and I wouldn’t have to drive since I can’t due to my anxiety. Plus who wouldn’t want a firey horse skelton sidekick? Anyways Tom offers Marco cold cereal and Marco is frank with tom, pointing out he’s suddenly being nice to Marco after never being nice to him before and understandably isn’t sure he’s even a mackie hand fan but a bit of banter and trivia shows Marco that no, Tom really seems to be telling the truth.  Tom then confides in marco that he gets why Marco didn’t belivie him: Most people dont’ get past their preconcived perceptions of him. And here the series does flesh tom out a bit: Tom admits to not having many friends.. which frames the previous two episodes in a diffrent light. Sure his actions to Star are still very much not okay... but you at least see WHY he was so obessive about her: She was probably the first real friend he had that wasn’t a casual aquantince, his own family member, or a pet. Most Mewman kids his age probably weren’t too keen to hang out with what to them was a monster, rich or not, little raicst shits. And in the underworld most people probably just did whatever he asked because they were afraid of his temper or his parents fury, even if his parents are the nicest people in the underworld. So when he lost her, Tom didn’t know how to properly react and while his first attempt to win star back was genuine, it was marred by his refusal to adress his anger or control issues that likely lead to Star dumping him in the first place. While Star’s forgivness HERE is a bit werid, her willingness to give him another shot wasn’t: Tom was SEEMINGLY genuinely trying. He was in therapy, he’d been anger free for several days and most glowingly, when a stranger karate chopped his hand off in a misguided attempt to protect star.. he got upset but instnatlly went into his coping mechanisms.  The problem was as I covered in that review.. Tom didn’t WANT to change. That’s the thing about changing: you need to both know there is a problem and WANT to fix it. And even then, as we’ll see sometimes i’ts hard. I know, i’ve had my own personal issues i’ve had to change up as years went on. It’s a slippery slope you have to constnatly climb up. And BMB era tom.. just didn’t WANT to change he just wanted to do what he thought star wanted that would get her to take him back, and couldn’t understnad why she wouldn’t just listen to him and obey, two things not in star’s vocabulary for anyone much less her ex. 
So , much like I did, rather than blame himself for screwing things up, he just saw it as Marco being in the way and tried to fix that. And so he sunk to rock bottom.. but it didn’t fix their relationship and it took Marco having an honest conversation, as someone who was also very close to her and knew her well, to get him to see that Star wasn’t going to take him back unless she wanted it.. what he was doing was selfish and self destructive.. and Tom probably realized in that moment he had to stop. He let her go, and thus as I put al ot of emphasis on last time, made his first step to being better.  And to me that’s why this makes sense as his next step: While it’s partly to fufill a checklist... you get the sense he really DOES like marco on some level. They hung out, which I do feel tom did genuinely feel was like friends hanging out instead of you know the second highest stakes game of ping pong i’ve ever seen. 
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The first if your curious. So while part of this is Tom just wanting to get through anger managment for likely his parent’s sake, part of it is also him genuinely wanting to be somebody’s buddy, anybody but a bumbling butler. It’s just being Tom, he dosen’t know HOW to make friends or get them to see past who he is surface wise; a spoiled angry boy and see the inside, a nice kid who just has no idea how to talk to people beyond a surface level or understand them and we’ll see that more both in this episode and as we go. Speaking of going back in the episode proper, two bros drive up and insult Tom’s carriage also wondering if he’s going to his grandpa’s funeral. Fuck you both.. both on general principal and becaause his grandpapapapapapaaaaaaaaaaaa is alive and magnificent. 
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Satan bless you Relicor. Anyways, Tom is naturally pissed at this and Marco challenges them to a race.. but eases tom off actually following them as, since this isn’t a fast and the furious movie, the police immidelty arest them and we get the blessed image above. Let’s see that again.
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Not right but it’ll have to do I fear what may happen if I try again.  ONE BALLON DICK GIRAFFE LATER, our boys are on a high, as Tom finds there are things more fun than obletarating people. #tomhaskilledmultiplepeopleandisstillthebestboy. Marco is reminded of a song from his faviorite band Love Sentence, and Tom, suprisingy given his My Chemical Romance with a splash of metal astetic, is not only a huge fan but has a giant Helga Patiaki esque shrine to them complete with a cd player with shuffle. Fancy. 
We then get a wonderful, shiptastic montage of the two just hanging out, hanging out with a white tiger. Having themselves a party. And given the song itself, sung by 98 Degrees and horrible realtiy show Newleywed’s alumnus Nick Lachey, even says “we used to be enimies but now we have chemistry” yeah I think this is intentional and they are a good ship. Are they my prefered ships for the characters? No tha’ts kelly and flame princess... the last one was recent and I love a good crossover ship sue me. But I do headcanon both as still Bi and still find the ship great, it’s just not my main one. 
However the good times can’t last as it is film time... but Tom refuses to let marco leave befor eblowing his top off... dude that’s not how you build a suppportive relationship, you know this by now. Turns out the white tiger I haven’t mentioned to now is actually Brian, vocied my boy Stephen Root who apparently just.. lives at DIsney’s animation studios now as he has a tendency to show up in every other animated disney show. You may know him from Gravity Falls as Bud Gleeful, THe Mayor from Amphibia, or , in non disney voice work, Bill Dautrive. Turns out as I haven’t even tried to hide, Tom was in the final stage of his anger managment class and to get out of it had had to spend 3 hours with the person he hated most. As I said I do think part of it was GENUINE on tom’s part, that he was trying to be what he thought friends were... it’s just he didn’t get that Marco, if grumblinignly, probably STILL would’ve agreed if he were honest.  However.. it’s still a step up. While i’ts still a scheme, and his LAST on the show.. it’s more benign after the last two; Instead of being harmful his scheme this time is just “Bribe my worst enemy into hanging out with me and get out of anger managment” it’s still not quite right, but compared to the things he’s done with star, it’s an improvment and a sign he is changing despite himself. He could’ve just kidnapped marco again and forced him to spend the three hours.. granted this might’ve just been Brian saying, obviously no tha tdosen’t count, but still, instead he tried being nice and giving an apology. Even if it was for personal gain on some level, Marco’s words clearly got to him and he’s now trying genuinely unselfish tactics. It’s also notable since he spent the three hours with marco, and at least half an hour of awkarndess before it got all fun, WITHOUT getting angry or falling back on old stratgies and only beefing it at the end because, as i’ve established, he dosen’t get people.  So naturally tom gets mad.. while it is a sign he’s getting better he dosen’t do his trademark horrifying demonic EXPLOSION of rage... he’s still being petulant and sore over his failure is mad at marco for pritoritzing the tickets nad destroys them. Marco naturally calls him out, angry over him manipulating him to get some badge , as he puts it, calls him a jerk and a liar, accurate and the worst part to marco? “I WAS DUMB ENOUGH TO FALL FOR IT”
Credit where it’s due while I may not LIKE adam mcarthur as a person...as a voice actor he is excellent and his delivery here is perfect as you do get the pain in Marco’s voice as he genuinely ahd grown to care for tom. Wethere it was friendship or wanting to make out... probably wanting to make out, you get the pain in his voice. Tom admits the love sentence hting wasn’t a lie.. but too little too late.. whcih is marco’s second faviorite love sentence song and leads to another moment of shippy goodness. Seriously I see why this ship exploded in popularity after this. Also I will say both Adam and Rider have damn pretty voices.  So Tom does what any romantic lead faced with a third act breakup would do.. say a demonic chant and bring Mackie Hand back from the dead. This is also the first time we see just how fucking powerful tom is. Before we’ve seen him summon his carriage and immolate some stuff and easily reattach a hand.. but this is the first time that we see he’s every pit as powerful as star, who probably could raise the dead she just dosen’t want to. Granted I don’t know why this sort of undead stuff hasn’t been used on say, Moons assitnated mother, but presumibly anti-monster stigma combined with the fact that we don’t know HOW she died or how much was left, and are probably better off that way solve that. It goes a long way to explain why Tom’s family are allies instead of the conquered like most monsters: They have equal , if far diffrent and spookier, magic power and are the only kingdom with this trump card besides the butterfly kingdom. 
So as we close Marco tries to use Mackie to get in, the usher dosen’t buy it and a fight insues, but Marco and Tom patch things up, Tom becoming a fan of Mackie now he’s seen what the guy can do and Marco forgiving tom since, evne if his actions were still a bit greasy, he immidetly did his best to try and fix what he broke. The two are friends again despite them both saying they hate each other... but they clearly mean it playfully. The End.  Final Thoughts: After the Slog that was last episode this one is a fan faviorite for a reason... well okay 2 reasons. One...
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And two.. it’s excellent. I feel bad it took me years to see this one, but it’s one of season 2′s finest. It’s funny, has great character stuff for both boys, introduces a new ship that’s fantastic and a great new dynamic between Tom and Marco that would carry for the rest of the show. It also beliviebly advances Tom’s character arc: He’s TRYING a bit but he’s still got a bit of the scheming and selfishness that defined his earlier outings, but it’s telling that after this episode, and hurting marco, he stops. This episode REALLY gets him to change that and for the better.  Sadly Tom would only make one more apperance this season in Naysaya, an episode I will cover when I cover Jackie and Marco at some point, but has him show up for a cameo when it turns out the episodes antagonist, a curse that takes the form of a sentient head that spills the target’s worst secrets and insecurities when they try to ask someone they like out, is Tom’s fault from back when he was a baddie, and Tom genuinely apologizes and tells him how to vanquish it, if ribs marco a bit since he cast that curse presumibly sometime between BMB and MCC and is delighed and suprised that Marco seriously hadn’t asked anyone out in that time. But it’s a nice bit that shows their not only still friends but Tom is genuinely sorry for some of his earlier behavior. We’ll see more of that as we go and more of tom trying to be better.. he’s made up with Marco, next time we come back to tomtrospective, we’ll see how it goes with Star. 
Coming up besides the obvious, as Pride Winds down I’ll have my first steven unvierse coverage, one of the first openly gay couples in western animation, and some asexula pride as we take our first look at Bojack Horseman..’s loveable rommate todd. Until we meet again, stay safe, black lives matter and later days. 
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THE UNTOLD TALE | Chapter VII
Draco Malfoy Summary: brought back to Hogwarts, Sunrise must face the truth about her past while trying to find out the real reason they’re back. This is my first HP fic, it sets in a world the books were published to hide the whole truth about magic so it’s not chronologically correct, just go with it, please. Excuse my broken English. It’s quite a trip the whole thing and it takes a while before heating up. And if you have read my other stories, YES, I DO USE THE SAME NAME! A LOT.
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Right after she finished telling the stories about their fifth year in Hogwarts, Sunrise turned her party mood on. Every time somebody tried to talk to her about something serious, she’d go and scream about the song they were listening to. It was easy to pretend when they were drunk. A few drinks later, they all decided to call it a night and go to sleep.  
By that time, Blaise and Ingrid were pretty intimate. Holding hand and stopping every five seconds to hook up. Draco and Sunrise were trying to babysit them to their dorms.  
“I guess my mother’s life’s dream has just came true: I’m a father” joked Malfoy.  
“Does that make me a mother?” teased Hewitt. 
“Chill out, we’ve only kissed when we were fifteen remember?” 
“Ouch! Fair enough. In my defense, Ron was about to have a heart attack, didn’t want to add up to that” 
“Why not?” 
“Draco, they’re still my friends” 
“Do they? I mean, I know you all gathered to fight Voldemort in the end but they pretty much didn’t try to see how you were when the whole Death Eaters parents thing happened” 
“I know, but they were full of things to worry about”  
“Including you literally sleeping with the enemy” 
“We didn’t sleep together” 
“You know what I mean” 
“I do... it’s just... ugh, complicated”  
“What’s complicated? Just kiss already” said Ingrid hugging Sunrise. 
“Very funny. I wasn’t talking about me and Draco” answered Hewitt trying to hold the girl. 
“Don’t be sad, Draco, I'm pretty sure she’ll come around” cheered Blaise. 
“Blaise, she’s standing right here and there’s nothing to come around” answered Draco.  
“Okay, sure, we’ll keep your secrets” they both said running inside their common room. 
“I should help him... Bye, Hewitt”  
“Bye, Malfoy”. 
   “Okay, so summer at the Malfoy Manor part two, please!” required Marta.  
Hermione tried to signalize her to be quiet but wasn’t very effective.  
“Uh, sure. So, my parents were locked down” she stared at Marta who made a very embarrassed face “and so were Draco’s dad. As you might figure, Voldemort is not- was not the forgiving kind. There were non-stopping meetings at the Manor and during one of them he decided that Draco and I had a mission”  
“Uh-oh” said Lorena predicting what she was about to say.  
“Uh, yeah, exactly what you’re thinking. Voldemort wasn’t that trusting that I was on their side and he wanted to revenge the failed mission, so... that’s the story about how I became a Death Eater” the girl rolled her sleeves up so they could see the Dark Mark’s scar.  
Not even Marta could find words to say. Hermione, Harry and Ron couldn’t face the girl. And Draco Malfoy, seemed very bitter.  
“So, that year, when I met Harry, Ron and Hermione at Malkin’s I stayed hidden behind the clothes. I knew they’d be not that shaken by the fact I’ve spent another summer at the Malfoy Manor, but as I thought about going out, I heard Harry facing Narcissa. He said something about asking her fellow Death Eaters to help her. I froze when I heard it. And right after he said something about getting a couple cellar in Azkaban. I know you never meant it like that, but I was so scared back then that my stupid brain only processed that” she added the last part to Harry. “I was hoping for them to leave before so they wouldn’t see me”.  
“Yeah, about that... I actually did sort of on purpose the whole storm out” confessed Draco.  
“Oh, I’m so surprised” faked Hewitt.  
“Well, at least I saved you from going inside that Weasley shitshow” he added. 
“Take it back” she said. 
“No” he simply answered. 
“Take. It. Back” she managed to say each word slowly and calmly 
“Fine. I take it back” he didn’t actually give in but he knew that with Sunrise Hewitt it was either losing the battle or spending the whole night fighting. 
“I’ll be the first to admit that I truly believed Sunrise was guilty of something. Her behavior and the fact she was with Malfoy all the time when I was already suspecting of him, I don’t know... I just kinda knew” said Harry. 
“So, you’ll be the first to admit you were right? So noble, Potter!” teased Malfoy. 
“Shut up, Malfoy”. 
“Okay, I can’t hold it back anymore cause, you see, I’m now a Drunrise shipper-” started Marta. 
“What’s a Dr- that thing?” asked Ron. 
“A person that thinks Draco and Sunny should end up together” explained Ingrid. 
“I’d like if you stopped treating this as a young adult novel, please. I’ve avoided this kind of thing for six years for a reason” asked Sunrise. 
“Not gonna happen” Ingrid, Marta, Raul and Lorena said at the same time. 
“I’ll just ignore you, then”. 
“So... as soon as I got inside the train all I wanted was finding my friends and seating with them but something hit me: what if they hated my guts? Or even worse: what if they saw my Mark? So, I tagged along with him. Now when Harry tried to spy on us, which only confirmed my worst fears because it meant he didn’t trust me to spy for them don’t give me that look you know I’m right, I was there and I saw him”. 
“Oh I remember that day, Draco travelled laying his head on my lap” added Pansy. 
“I miss the days you didn’t show to those meetings and, you know, five minutes ago when you weren’t there” said Sunrise. 
“Jealous much?” teased Parkinson sitting next to Malfoy.  
“Of what? Please. Moving on with the story” she tried to go on.  
“I remember you stood up for Ginny, it made me feel a little bit guilty of not trusting you” said Harry.  
“Of course I did! Playing the spy didn’t mean I had to pretend not liking you. It was no secret we were friends” added Hewitt.  
“She’d tell how you ignored her and didn’t trust her and made her sad. And also, she knew you expected the worst of her. Oh, guess your trust issues were right” interrupted Parkinson. 
“So when we were all leaving I was relieved nobody found out about Harry. It was until I heard Draco telling Pansy to go on without him. So, I came back for him. I tried to make him leave but he wouldn’t and that was when he gave up and told me stay. After all: I was one of them. I knew I couldn’t go back without him seeing and it would give away my disguise so I made a writing spell and dropped it. Tonks found it. That year was very very complicated. Harry was obsessed about Draco and he was sort of suspicious of me. He didn’t trust me to spy on Draco and I barely talked to them that whole year. The only time I did had a conversation was Harry interrogating me to see if I was part of the whole Draco’s plan”.  
“And I was right!” said Harry.  
“Yes, you were but I did what Dumbledore told me to do. You see, Dumbledore knew it was going to be hard for me to turn my back against them and I was better playing this spy role, he knew Snape would look after me. What he didn’t know was that Voldemort would insist that I became a Death Eater. Snape was ignored when he advised Voldemort against it and the whole thing happened. During that year, I had a mission to step up to Draco’s mission if he didn’t go through. I tried to warn Dumbledore a million times but he told me it was alright and he had everything under control. It got to a point he stopped meeting me. Snape told me everything was going to be okay but it was consuming me. I was afraid for my family and for Dumbledore, Draco was pressuring me to help him because he was also scared”. 
“I wasn’t scared” Malfoy defended himself. 
“Yes, you were. And it’s okay. It was a task that not even Voldemort dared to do himself. So, my friends weren’t talking to me and I was under major pressure. The only person with whom I could talk was Draco. That year we grew pretty close”.  
“Hmmmm, I see” said Marta. 
“So I created this fantasy that when the time came he would switch sides. I mean, he was deliberately self-sabotaging every chance he had to kill Dumbledore. That night, I was with him and I know, despite what you may say, that if the Death Eaters didn’t enter the tower, you would’ve switch sides” she added to Malfoy ignoring Marta’s comment. 
“I-” the boy tried to speak but suddenly stopped.  
“You were there and you didn’t stop Snape from killing Dumbledore?” asked Raul. 
“First of all, Snape was told to kill Dumbledore. Second, it got me by surprise. I tried to hold back my scream but I couldn’t. So, my disguise went down the drain. Snape suggested the Death Eater to take me to Voldemort so he could decide my fate. As we escaped and Harry followed us, Snape told me and Draco to run away. That was when I managed to escape and help the Order at Hogwarts”.  
“And did they believe in you?” asked Lorena. 
“Of course, they did! Harry was paranoid but the rest of the Order knew I was on their side” the girl defended herself.  
“I mean, I wasn’t the only one suspicious. Hermione and Ron also didn’t believe you!” protested Harry.  
“But if you were staying with the Malfoys during summer... where did you go that summer?” asked Ingrid.  
“Uh, can we leave the rest for tomorrow? I’m tired and those are difficult thing to talk about, you know?” asked Sunrise. 
“Sure... I’m sorry” apologized Marta.  
The Slytherin girl gave a shy smile and stood up to get some drink, followed by Malfoy. Meanwhile the rest of the group began chatting about their classes and regular stuff.  
“So... thank you for leaving our conversation out of it” thanked Malfoy. 
“I- I just- It's not something I want them to know either” she said.  
“Oh sure, you don’t want them to know you actually care about me, right?” said Draco making the space between their faces smaller.  
“You wish” smirked Sunrise.  
“Yeah, cause saying ‘You could come with us, you heard what Dumbledore said, our families will be protected. We will be protected. You know you don’t want to do this. Come with me. Please’ was completely platonic” mocked the boy.  
“Not as much as remembering it word by word” answered the girl leaving him behind to joying the conversation about the next Quidditch game.  
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poisonerrose · 4 years
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Psst do u have any Emilia/kat headcanons
ooo, we got a rare pair shipper YAY!!!! (Also um I don't know if you wanted War gifted Kat or not so I just did poisoner/naturalist Kat BUT if ya’ll want War gifted Kat headcanons pls let me know)
Okay, so Emilia did not mean to fall for Kat at all.
 Like she met and danced with her at a party and was like 'no fuck you poisoner' (not really) and then immediately developed a crush on her.
And it didn't help that Katharine was super sweet and the complete opposite of what Emilia was expecting her to be. 
And Kat also developed a huge fucking crush and blushed any time Natalia or Genevieve brought Emilia up. 
They met again at another party, and they ran off to go make out in a random hallway.
Natalia spotted them but never said anything because she just thought it would be a one-time thing. 
It did not turn out to be a one-time thing. 
(I don't really have a story for them yet, so let's jump into the cute stuff shall we.) 
Emilia isn't the most cuddly person in the world, but she can't resist pulling Kat into her arms when she snuggles up to her while they are sleeping. 
Kat likes to poison Emilia's weapons because she thinks it's helpful, but she keeps forgetting that Emilia isn't a poisoner. 
Emilia doesn't have the heart to tell her to stop because Kat  gets so excited when telling her about the poisons. 
So Emilia carries antidotes with her at all times. 
Kat is a pretty decent fighter on her own, and sometimes she will challenge Emilia to small duels. 
She almost always loses because Emilia flirts and makes her blush so she can't focus. Then she either gets pinned to a wall or onto the ground. 
But it leads to a make-out session, and Kat doesn't mind that at all. (I have a new fanfic idea :D )
Emilia and Natalia do not get along. 
Every time they are near each other, Emilia is borderline about to get herself murdered. 
Natalia has attempted to poison Emilia once or twice. She couldn't bring herself to go through with it because Kat was just so happy.
So Natalia does her best to be civil.
Emilia doesn't try to be civil at all. She fucking hates the Arrons, and the Arrons hate her just as much. 
She once told Natalia flat out to her face what she thinks of her and her family. She immediately regretted it. (Natalia is fucking scary when she wants to be) 
The only reason they restrain themselves from killing each other is for Kat's sake. 
Kat's fox, Haldy, (Ya know after that war queen Kat talked about in the first book. I think it's a good name.) likes Emilia, but she is devious and likes to piss Emilia off. 
Once stole Emilia's boot and held it hostage for an hour while Emilia pleaded with her for an hour to get it back all the while laughing at her. (Foxes can laugh, and it's the cutest shit ever. look it up!)
That night, before Emilia went to sleep, she put her boots on a tall table, thinking that Haldy would be unable to get to them. 
Now here's the thing, Haldy is a grey fox, and grey foxes are the best climbers. 
So Emilia woke up to the fox on the table and spent another hour pleading with the fox. 
Kat was very amused over the whole ordeal. 
Emilia tells Kat that the fox annoys her to no end, but Kat has seen her and Haldy napping together on several occasions. 
And she has also caught her playing with the fox on other occasions as well. 
Kat really can’t help but laugh when she does. :D
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wongkarwives · 5 years
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I wanna ask you pretty much the same thing you asked me lol! Mostly your favorite fics though. Also headcanons too I think that’s super interesting!
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i have so many favourite fics but they fall under so many categories
1). nice girls don’t by telanu
2). the art of seeing by ubiquitousmixie
3). the art of survival by wastedon
4). the end of all things by telanu
5). the fix by menzosarres
6). disarming athena by politic_x
7). all fics written by whitesheets i LOVE
the above are ones i have liked for a VERY long time and will probably love for the rest of eternity
here are my current fav ones, i’ve read em recently (but honestly they change often)
1). focus by elle_nic
2). when night falls on you by fewthistle
3). hold my hand by MsSir
4). her one wild precious life by awomannotagirl
5). a mean sleep by politic_x
slowburns
1). truth and measure by telanu
2). this must be the place by chilly_flame
3). five minutes by chilly_flame
4). take me to the river by spacedmuch
5). not everyone series by spacedmuch
as for headcanons, i’ve talked about a lot of em before but oh well time to go very deep even though you didn’t ask for this
miranda is either a capricorn or a taurus, andy is a cancer or pisces. miranda’s a lesbian, and andy is bi. andy’s an infp, miranda’s an istj. miranda grew up jewish, andy grew up christian (maybe presbyterian? idk i’m not religious). andy i think would be a democrat and miranda would be a libertarian, but leaning towards left? miranda’s a morning person, andy is a night owl. andy loves fish, miranda hates it.
miranda grew up jewish and her mother was polish, but miranda was raised in england. her father died when she was very young and afterwards she had to take care of her mentally unstable mother. she’s fluent in french, enjoys gardening, can play piano well. she’s a very skilled dancer and cook as well. she reads a lot, mostly morning newspapers and really likes sylvia plath and emily dickinson. she’s a closet romantic and occasionally will do shit straight out of a romance novel-- she’s the one who proposed and she REALLY went all out. miranda listens to a lot of chopin, debussy, edith piaf, peggy lee, etc. an abba and cher fan (obvs). very possessive of aux cord, the coffee ice cream in the freezer, and andy. miranda has several pairs of reading glasses because she’s Extra like that, and sometimes can be found wearing like three at a time. she really loves old movies with audrey hepburn and william holden. she’s very protective of her relationship with andy, and refuses to make public statements about them. she and the girls always read harry potter together before bed. miranda used to smoke, but doesn’t anymore. contrary to a lot of fics, i don’t think miranda would be really insecure about her age-- she might say things occasionally like “god i’m getting old” or “ah, andrea. to be young again, and know a life outside of chronic back pain. what a life you live.” miranda always keeps giving andy outfits and clothes to wear without saying anything at all, and andy just pretends she doesn’t notice that her closet gets bigger and bigger every time she looks through it. despite being happily married for the first time ever, miranda’s still scary, mean, demanding, and treats her employees (and literally everyone else) the same as she always had. she’s not a very touchy-feely person, nor does she shower andy with praise, but if you talk to anyone that knows miranda priestly personally, they will tell you with confidence that she absolutely dotes on andy
andy likes ernest hemingway, virginia woolf, jane austen, f scott fitzgerald, and is constantly telling miranda about the books she reads. she probably gets along better with her dad than her mom. i think she has an older sister and a younger brother. her grandmother is the number one mirandy shipper. andy likes sports, pasta, 90s hip hop, and has the corniest pick-up lines that always make miranda laugh. she’s a very big dog person and miranda always gets mad at her (not really) for overfeeding patricia. she likes to make fun of miranda sometimes, and is constantly @ ing her on twitter. she loves harry potter just as much as the girls do, and lets them watch all the horror movies they want, which miranda gets mad at her for. she loves helping the twins study for school, and is the one handing them their backpacks before they leave, while miranda sharply reminds them to not get into trouble at school (they pull pranks and can be disruptive in class sometimes). she’s very shitty at interior decorating. oh and also andy tops 99% of the time
they make everything, no matter how small or menial, into a fun challenge (like speed shopping or water gun wars). they each have their own side of the bed and never stray from it, even when they’re apart. they’re constantly leaving each other post-it notes around the house- miranda lines her up neatly in rows, andy sticks them all over the place. they always fight over the tv remote and the twins dread movie night subsequently. they share their hobbies & interests with each other, and both are always willing to try new stuff out. miranda cuts out andy’s articles and secretly hoards them so she can read them whenever she wants. she’s very proud of andy and whenever they go to events miranda always introduces her as “my lovely pulitzer-winning wife, andrea.” before andy, miranda would never dance at parties or events, but now they’re dancing nearly all night long. when it’s miranda’s turn to host the met gala, andy is the first person on the guest list, and miranda obvs goes ALL OUT when it comes to planning their looks. they always walk onto the carpet holding hands and people always yell at them to kiss, but miranda has only caved ONCE to the press. after that incident they were trending on twitter for quite a while. andy always gets small gifts for miranda when she goes on trips, and they email each other all the time when they’re apart. andy keeps trying to get miranda to go to pride, but miranda’s stubborn as fuck and always says no. miranda and andy unintentionally end up wearing each other’s clothes around the house-- miranda in sweatpants and tank tops, andy in silk robes. they probably try to go out for drinks with nigel and his husband as often as they can. they don’t hug or kiss much but they do a LOT of hand-holding. miranda hates going to amusement parks but is willing to go because everyone in the family won’t stop bothering her about it (ESPECIALLY ANDY). 
when andy and miranda get older, they both retire from their jobs and dedicate most of their time to travelling together. they still make a lot of public appearances for charities, organisations, and events still though. they visit the twins as often as they can, babysit their grandkids (mostly andy because the kids say that “grandma miranda is scary”). every anniversary, they receive millions of messages and happy anniversary wishes from people worldwide. when they’re mentioned in a conversation, everyone agrees that they’re one of the best celebrity couples, and wish that they had a relationship like theirs
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sulietsexual · 5 years
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Could you elaborate why you were dissapointed in season 3 of Stranger Things? I haven't seen it yet but feel free to spoil stuff, already saw tons of gifsets on here.
royalweirdonj said:Thoughts on Stranger Things 3?
Okay, so I have some mixed feelings about this season, so I’ll talk about both the good and the bad and why I was ultimately disappointed with this season (at least in part). So we’ll start with …
What I Liked 
First and foremost, I absolutely loved what they did with El’s character development and characterisation this season. El is a character who hasn’t really had the chance to grow or develop because she’s always so isolated and/or going through so much trauma. In Season 1 she was basically just a traumatised child and in Season 2 Hopper kept her very isolated and her weird sojourn to find her mother and her sister didn’t feel authentic to me. But this season finally gave her the opportunity to start to develop her own sense of self and I loved that, especially the medium through which she did so, ie her friendship with Max.
We’ve all wanted this friendship since Season 2 but I don’t think that any of us realised how glorious it would be. El is a reserved and unsure character (when she’s not being pushed to save everyone) and so she really needed someone like Max in her corner, someone who was loud and assertive, who would stand up for her when she couldn’t stand up for herself and who could show her how to be more dominant and make her own boundaries and rules. I loved the shopping montage, particularly the part where Max helped her pick out clothes that felt like her (”Not like Hopper or Mike, but like you.”), as well as their sleepovers, the way they investigated everything together and the bond which formed from them being the only girls in a group of boys who didn’t always understand each other. It was a really sweet and organic friendship and I’m so glad that the Duffers decided to develop it.
And speaking of friendships, I also adored the dynamic between Steve and Robyn, the way the show turned what we all thought would be a romantic relationship on its head and instead turned it into a sweet and snarky friendship between two people who genuinely liked one another. Robyn herself was a great character and her presence on the show greatly improved the overall tone. I loved how smart and quirky and snarky she was and Mia Hawke really made the character feel authentic. And I really loved the subversion of her and Steve’s relationship and her coming out scene. Steve Harrington proved what an absolute cinnamon roll he is with his reaction to her coming out; I loved that his only response was to tell her that she needed better taste in women and I loved that in the Three Months Later sequence they were still besties looking for jobs in the same place so they could stick together. 
Steve Harrington remained the awesome character he’s always been. Loved that his and Dustin’s friendship is still so intact and that they still care about one another so much. Also loved him sneaking the other kids into the movies on a regular basis. And I liked how the series demonstrated that while he isn’t book smart, he’s smart in other ways, such as figuring out where the music on the recording came from or using the vial of green substance to jam the elevator door open. It shows that he knows how to think on his feet and that he pays attention to his surroundings and is street-smart. I love what they’re doing with his character, allowing him to continue to grow into a more kind, smart and compassionate character with every season.
Also, I loved seeing Science Teacher Scott Clarke again! I missed him in Season 2, so seeing his epic reappearance was amazing! Wish he’d been in more than just one episode.
Characters aside (although, I should mention that I love Joyce Beyers more with every season, her “Mom Voicing” the Government was brilliant and I liked that they touched on her grief over Bob’s death) but that aside, the season felt really well-paced. Only having eight episodes meant that the story progressed quickly and there wasn’t a lot of filler, which was good. There was also so much excitement and action going on that it was very easy to binge-watch the whole season. That being said, I feel like the season changed direction mid-way through, which brings me to …
What I Didn’t Like
Following on from the previous paragraph, I feel like Season 3 started as a character-based season and then quickly switched to a plot-driven season (and on an added note, I was kind of annoyed that the plot this season was literally the same as last season ie the Mind Flayer has taken over someone close to one of the party members and they have to close the gate to stop them - again. Also, the subplot with the Russians was kind of lame). 
There was so much characterisation laid down in the first half of the season which was then kind of forgotten about in the second half once the action got underway and then was never resolved. Will spends most of the first three or four episode lamenting his lost childhood and desperately trying to re-connect with his friends. It’s heartbreaking to see how much he craves the days before everything, the days where he felt safe, where his friends were there for him and not concerned with their romantic entanglements. It was actually a really interesting look into Will’s character and how he’s desperately clinging to the old days but once the Mind Flayer comes into play, this is pretty much dropped. Aside from a half-hearted attempt from Lucas to bridge the gap, Will’s disconnect from his friends and the fact that they’re growing up faster than he is and therefore growing apart from him is never addressed again, leaving this particular thread unfinished. 
Hopper’s characterisation and his storyline regarding being a parent to a thirteen-year-old was also left unresolved. Overall, I didn’t love Hopper’s characterisation this season. He seemed overly aggressive and I really didn’t like that he got so drunk when Joyce didn’t turn up for their date. He’s obviously having communication issues with El, and the opportunity to resolve these issues died along with him. His jealousy over any man who even talked to Joyce was irritating and I didn’t like that he essentially threatened a fourteen-year-old kid and seemed pleased with himself when said kid then hurt his daughter (because it meant that he got his way and that’s all that mattered). I understand why he was so alarmed with El and Mike spending so much time together but the fact that this never got resolved in an adult manner irritated me. And his death, well, we’ll talk about that soon because that pissed me off beyond belief.
Billy’s character needed more depth. I did feel a bit sorry for him this season and he definitely felt like a better character than the previous season, but any development he had (including his relationship with Max) happened offscreen, so it was hard to believe that Max would grieve for him so much after everything we saw him do to her in Season 2. Obviously things have gotten better between the two of them and Billy himself is nowhere near as gross as he was (although he’s still a dick) but we never got to see this growth/development, so it was hard to really empathise with his character or feel grief over his passing, even for Max. 
Nancy’s character felt (once again) kind of useless this season and her storyline was (once again) so separate from the main storyline that I really feel that it could have been removed entirely and it wouldn’t have made a lick of difference. Also, I get that we were supposed to feel that she was being treated in a sexist manner by the men at the newspaper but, I mean, she was only an intern. She wasn’t there as a reporter, she was working as a intern and it’s an intern’s job to run menial tasks such as getting coffee, picking up lunch and doing boring tasks like photocopying and filing and the bad treatment she received seemed to be based more off her intern status than her gender. Also, what did she think, that she would become some groundbreaking reporter based off a summer job with zero experience or writing credentials? Lastly, Jonathan barely felt like a character this season, his sole reason to exist seemed to be to prop up Nancy’s storyline and I hated that after Jonathan delivered that epic (and entirely true) speech about how Nancy didn’t understand the lower class and how he needed the job and wasn’t born with the same silver spoon in his mouth that she was, he then turned around and apologised and said that he was wrong (which he totally wasn’t). Yet another example of Nancy treating a boyfriend like crap and getting away with it, but hey, “feminism”!
I also didn’t really like the dynamic they wrote between Joyce and Hop. It was good at first, with him going to her for advice on how to deal with El and Mike. But once she “stood him up” and they developed that weird snarky “banter”, I found myself growing tired of the dynamic. Also, bringing back the creepy conspiracy theorist from Season 2 to tell them they needed to bang (like he did with Nancy and Jonathan) was, again, so annoying. I hate when characters are told that they have feelings for one another, rather than developing naturally. So yeah, never been much of a Jopper shipper and this season made me even less so. Bring back Bob!
Oh, and lastly, Erica Sinclair is the most annoying little snot of a character. I didn’t find her entertaining at all. She was rude, obnoxious and mean, horrible to pretty much every character, took advantage of Scoops tasting policy while acting like an entitled brat and I just honestly could not stand her. I wish they’d left her out of the Steve/Robyn/Dustin dynamic, she was just such an unnecessary addition.
What I Hated
So, characterisation issues and weird bait-and-switches between it and plot aside, there were a couple of aspects to the new season which I truly hated.
First of all, this season was unnecessarily violent. Like, I get that there’s been violence in this show before, but it’s always been stylized violence, usually aimed at bad guys and quite subdued. But this season? Wow. Starting with that horrible imagine spot where Billy envisions bashing Karen Wheeler’s head in, it just never let up. Having grown men savagely beat up teenagers was way more than I needed to see and the violence often seemed really gratuitous and unnecessarily drawn-out. Steve’s torture at the hands of the Russians was really hard to take, especially because it went on for so long. I hated having to watch them punch Robyn in the face. Jonathan’s brutal beat-down from the Flayed Editor of the paper was horrible to watch and, once again, went on for way too long. Also, watching Flayed!Billy literally choke, punch and smack thirteen-year-old El around was horrifying. Also, his taking of Heather (and later on his attempt to take El) was incredibly rape-y, what with him leaning over them while they were incapacitated and telling them “Don’t move/struggle”, “It will be over soon”. Totally uncalled for and incredibly hard to watch. Maybe I’m oversensitive but I honestly don’t think that the show needed to display that level of violence.
The character assassination of Karen Wheeler continued, with her and her creepy middle-aged mom friends sitting poolside to perv on a eighteen-year-old kid. Imagine if the genders were reversed and it was four middle-aged men perving on a young girl? Also, why would she even consider sleeping with a teenage boy? Sigh. Remember when Karen Wheeler was a concerned and caring parent, who was strong enough to yell at government officials when they wouldn’t tell her what was going on and dropped by a grieving friend’s house with food and comfort? At least she and Nancy had that sweet scene in which she was encouraging to her daughter, but the rest of the time she was just useless and didn’t even know where her kids were.
Speaking of which, why did this show separate Joyce and Hop from their kids for so long? And why on earth would Joyce and Hop be willing to be separated from their kids for so long, after everything they went through the previous year? It felt so OOC for them to not even be suspicious that they hadn’t spoken to either of their children for at least three days, just taking the word of other parents that their kids were alright. 
And lastly, the thing which pissed me off the most and actually made both me and my husband instantly switch off from the show and feel like we had just wasted eight hours watching this season, the death of Jim Hopper.
I know, I know, the Stinger maybe hinted that he was still alive. I know we didn’t see a body. I know that there were hints of time travel in future seasons and that Jim Hopper possibly isn’t dead. But you know who doesn’t know this? The characters. And I hate that. I hate that El has now lost her father, less than two years after finally finding one. I hate that she’s now alone, separated from Mike and while, yes, Joyce will take care of her the best she can, it’s never going to be the same. I hate that Joyce now has to suffer through the heartbreak of losing yet another man she had feelings for, less than a year after she lost the first. I hate that she made the decision to move away (even though I understand it) which separated her kids from their relationships and removed El from the one person who still loves her with all his heart. I hate that the season ended on such a downer, with such loss and tragedy and sadness. It really brought down the whole season for me and left me with a horrible, sad and empty feeling and not at all looking forward to more seasons because of all the crap the characters have gone through.
Whew. That got really long. Hope this was coherent! 
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serpounce-moved · 5 years
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Ship breakdown for sweet Caroline and her Joe pls
Thank you bb!!
I’m going to put some of it under a cut because it got long!!
edit: I'm sorry, I just realized how mobile messed with the format in this post :((
How did they they meet?
They met in foster care after Joseph’s second home and after Caroline’s first home. Caroline was scared and not aware of what was going on because she had been with her foster parents since she was a baby, and Joseph helped her feel safe and gave her a friend before she was sent to her next foster home. (She’s about 6 when this happens, Joseph is around 9/10).
Who developed romantic feelings first?
Definitely Joseph. Caroline was a little slow to realize how she felt for Joseph, but Joseph knew from the second time they met when they were teenagers that he loved her.
Who is their biggest “shipper?”
Their daughter Ruth. She’s in love with her parents’ love and always says that she can’t wait until she finds a boy to love her as much as Joseph loves Caroline. (She’s about seven when she tells them this).
When did they have their first kiss and under what circumstances?
Ooh okay so their first kiss happened when Caroline was 19 and Joseph was 22. He had just started working on Caroline’s adoptive parents’ orchard/farm and they were sitting out under the peach trees eating some of the fruit. Caroline had some peach juice on her lips and Joseph went to wipe it away with his thumb, but he decided to kiss it away instead.
Who confessed their feelings first?
Joseph! He basically hits her with the whole “God has told me about you, he’s shown me that you are meant for me” and Caroline, being in love with the idea of soul mates, thought that was romantic.
What was their first official date?
Joseph took her to a small Italian restaurant when he got his first paycheck from her parents. They stayed out until after one am looking at the stars from under a tree in the park.
How do they feel about double dates/group dates?
I think the only double date they’d go on would be if I put my other girls in their canon. Otherwise, I don’t see them going on any!
What do they do in their down time?
Fuck.
Okay, serious answer now! Speaking for when they’re living in Montana, when they aren’t busy with their jobs they will usually lounge together in their backyard or bedroom. Joseph works on his sermons and Caroline reads a book. They’re always cuddling in private, Caroline being a very cuddly person, always wanting to be near Joseph. They also spend time with their children, playing games and taking turns reading to them.
What was the first meeting of parents as an official couple like?
Caroline never met Joseph’s parents for canon reasons, but Joseph’s first meeting with Caroline’s adoptive parents went…alright. At first he was just looking for a job, but once Caroline’s parents found out they were together, they were a little wary of Joseph. They were scared he would cause Caroline sadness and take advantage of her, typical over-protective parents stuff. I’m still playing around with the idea that they both will eventually meet Caroline’s birth mother one day (I’m not sure just how much angst I want to include there)
What was their first fight over and how did they get past it?
Their first real fight was over their living situation. Caroline had started getting annoyed that Joseph couldn’t hold down a job and that they moved around so much while looking for John and Jacob that it was hard for Caroline to keep a job. She was tired of living in his car and having no money and she threatened to go back to her parents. They moved past it when Joseph told her that this was all part of God’s plan for them, that they had to suffer and be tested so they could make it to the new Eden that was promised to them. Caroline, believing in Joseph wholeheartedly, decided to put faith in him and continue to pray that their situation would eventually change.
Which one is more easily made jealous?
Ooh definitely Caroline! Envy is one of her greatest sins. She grew up envious of the children that were adopted before she was, envious of the way her friends had steady jobs and places to live…she becomes jealous very easily. 
What is their favourite thing to get to eat?
Because they never had much extra money (or money at all, really), they weren’t used to eating out much. Pizza was always a go-to in the beginning, but there was nothing better than Caroline’s home cooked meals.
Who’s the cuddly one? What their favourite cuddling position?
Caroline, definitely. She loves sitting with her back against his chest and his arms around her. She also loves when they cuddle in bed, with her head on his chest and their legs intertwined.
Are they hand holders?
At the beginning they are! They cut back on it once Eden’s Gate really starts taking off in Montana, but before they left Atlanta they held hands constantly.
How long do they wait before sleeping together for the first time? What’s the circumstances?
After they meet up the third time (when Joseph starts working at the orchard), it takes them two months to sleep together. Caroline is a little worried because she had never had sex before that Joseph wouldn’t like sleeping with her because she had no experience. It happened one night that her parents were out of town; Joseph had gone over to spend a couple of hours with her (she hated being home alone), and one thing led to another.
Who tops?
Would I be controversial if I said Caroline?
What’s the worst first they’ve ever gotten into?
Ohh most definitely the one where Caroline asked him to stop looking for his brothers. That was…bad. Caroline was seven months pregnant with their first child and still living in his car and she was tired of it, she was uncomfortable and terrified for their future and begged him to just stop looking, just for a year, so they could find jobs and settle down somewhere they could afford an apartment so their baby wouldn’t be taken away from them because they were homeless. She was scared and lashed out at him.
Who does the shopping and the cooking?
Joseph did the shopping and Caroline cooked. Eventually she’d get Joseph to help out with the cooking, but Caroline got a little obsessive with keeping their kitchen clean once they finally had a home that she’d chase Joseph out.
Which one is more organized and prone to tidiness?
I think they’re both pretty even, honestly. I can see, once they’re in Montana, they both take pride (ha, bad phrase choice) in the home they’re finally able to own together with their children and want it to look nice with everything in its place.
Who proposes?
Kind of both of them? Caroline brings it up first, saying that if God is telling Joseph that Caroline is meant for him, that they should just get married. It’s not an official proposal, and a couple of months later Joseph gives her a ring with a small diamond he got from a pawn shop and officially proposes to her.
Do they have joined Bachelor/Bacheloette parties or separate?
They didn’t have a true bachelor/bachelorette party, they just got a cheap bottle of wine and shared it a couple nights before they got married.
Who is the best man/maid of honour? Any other groomsmen or bridesmaids?
Caroline’s parents were there when they were married. Caroline’s friend served as her maid of honor, and her father stepped in as Joseph’s best man. (They were married before they found John and Jacob)
Big Ceremony or Small?
It was a very small ceremony in a small church.
Do they have a honeymoon? If so, where?
John paid for them to go on a honeymoon once they found him. The two of them chose Nashville because it was close to where they were living, and Joseph knew he had to continue the search for Jacob sooner rather than later. They were in Nashville for four days, with John meeting them there to continue looking.
Do they have children? How many?
I’m stuck between five or eight….they have a lot of kids, oop (if they have 8, the last two pregnancies were twin pregnancies, sorry Caroline) 
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What do you think about Zigi situation and the talks going on about it from the media as well as online?
Oh anon why are you making me do this… Well I have time today.
When it comes to online/ fandom let me go by categories.
1- The Ziams & anti-zigis:
These people from the start have been atrocious. Not only have they harassed Gigi & her family but same with Zayn & his family. They have been intrusive and have spread lies online (those so called “exposing accounts”) Whether it’s on IG or Twitter. In my opinion they are tinthats and just mad weird. They keep on saying everything is fake, is a stunt, TPTB, etc… 
It’s repetitive, predictable, pathetic & boring.
 Guess what tinhats ZAYN & LIAM WILL NEVER BE TOGETHER ROMANTICALLY!!! 
For someone that they claim to love & stan they sure have a low opinion of Zayn and what he is willing to do for his status. Not only that but their false rumors and stuff is at times picked up by tabloids. So kudos to you for helping your fave dummies…
So when it comes to them I am just like:
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2- Zigis:
I never really liked real couple shipping or should I say being a “stan” of a couple. I find it cringy and they also do go overboard and cross boundaries. Just because one is supportive doesn’t mean that they are not just as invasive or annoying as tinhats. (You can check my blog and how I was annoyed with the “Freddies”). 
So when it come to Zigis they were to me just like that. Anything that either Zayn and or Gigi did they were linking it together. Any like, comment, follow is or was being reported online. They even had/have update accounts. 
The ugly side of it is when the couple breaks up and they can’t let go or accept it. Think the Jelena (Justin & Selena), the Robsten (Rob & Kristen Stewart) or even the Zerrie (Zayn & Perrie) shippers/stan. Look at how ugly they got towards one or the other person especially when one of their OTP has moved on to a new partner (ex: Justin with Hailey, Rob with FKA Twigs & Zayn with Gigi). They actually become conspiracy theorists because they cannot accept that their OTP is over.  
Now when it comes to Zigis, they have actually turned into the Zerries that they were complaining and making fun of back in the day. LET IT GO!! Stop making connections and thinking that any follow, like or comment means something more. Don’t go harassing their possible new partners. Stop sending family DMs to find out the status of Zayn & Gigi’s relationship because you want some type of reassurance that your OTP are still together. BUTT OUT…. Last year during their first break up, the Zigis went on to attack Sofia & Iskra Lawrence because they thought something was maybe going on between them and Zayn. They said some pretty misogynistic things (feminist/girl power 101 my ass). They also went after (although to a lesser degree) they were being nasty and shady towards Lewis Hamilton when rumors were going around that him & Gigi were maybe going out. They are cringy…….
So when it comes to them, I am like:
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3- Zstans & Gigi stans:
Both side have shown their true colors or their true feelings once it has been said that they are no longer together. 
On the Zstans side, some were sad others were happy (that is excluding the ziams & antis), others were relieved but for the most part at least from what I saw they were chill up until the first US weekly article. Then the ugliness started. Some even sided with conspiracy theorists out of all people.. Like eww… I get wanting to defend your fave (and at times you were damn right to defend him) but come on now do better…. 
You gleefully were rejoicing when you assumed that Zayn was shading Gigi with his tweets and thought that he was proving you right when you were calling her manipulative, disgusting and all that jazz. Nevertheless, Zayn himself went off on all of you and set you guys straight pretty quickly.
You doing all of that, made things worst for the person that you claim to stan & love because guess what tabloids picked up on it and it created negative press towards Zayn. So kudos to you for helping your fave dummies…  
As for the Gigi stans I don’t follow many of them to be quite honest but the impression that I always got is that while Zayn & Gigi were together they kept quiet but there were some indirects here and there and then they just let loose when the break up happened. They 100% believed what tabloids were saying and were now overtly being nasty towards Zayn online. I get wanting to defend your fave (and at times you were damn right to defend her against the nastiness said about her) but come on now do better…. 
They always seemed to think that Zayn was the one preventing Gigi from going out, partying  and being seen or being super active & interactive on social media like back in the day when she was besties with Kendall. They don’t think big bad Zayn is good enough for their queen Gigi.. Well guess what Gigi stans to my knowledge she’s still not yet doing the stuff you expected her to do. So sucks to be you….
You don’t know Zayn or Gigi personnaly. You are not part of their inner circle. You don’t know what their relationship is or was like except from what they have chosen to share or from what the media/tabloids have decided to spin for clicks. It’s their life, their relationship and their choices. PERIOD!!!!!!! 
So when it comes to them, I am like:
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4- The media/tabloids + Zayn + Gigi
The media has been atrocious but more so towards Zayn than Gigi. Not surprised. Tabloids have rarely ever been on Zayn’s side. Most likely because he doesn’t curate his image as much as Gigi does. Zayn definitely hasn’t helped himself with some of the things he has said, done or tweeted online. I have said so in my tags. I don’t know what has prompted him to remember Twitter but it wasn’t a good idea at all. As a celebrity, social media is not a place to vent especially the cesspool that is Twitter. Also the vague tweets are open to interpretation and people will run with it and assume the worst automatically. I get it Zayn is still a human being like any of us but still…Be smart about how you use your platform you are not just anybody.
The media, loves to kick someone when they are down or bring up stuff. That’s what they do. They gossip, they speculate, they look for drama, they make up stuff. Anything to drive traffic on their site. Most of the articles have been basically about how Zayn is a deeply troubled young man (his anxiety issues, he is seen as a recluse, his tweets or some of his IG posts that would be 2018, his weed smoking..)  who is at an all time low (his management has allegedly dumped him, his second album did not do well commercially, still not touring, his gf has left him..) and was holding the super successful supermodel Gigi back from her full potential because she was always trying to help him. Basically that Zayn was dead weight. Then they brought in what Louis said about Zayn… You know all around just gross stuff.
It’s an easy narrative to paint for tabloids and quickly believed based on the bias people already have of Zayn that has been solidified by his reputation and the years of bad press that he hasn’t deemed worthy enough to respond to. 
That to me has always been a mistake but then again even when he does try to correct stuff or tell his side of the story, his words are ignored or not believed. He’s fucked either way. Even when he’s silent minding his own business there are still articles popping up. If my memory is correct, Zayn was pretty much silent online other than selfies up until March when he tweeted the Love You Gigi and yet since January Zayn was being mentioned in articles that were either about Gigi or about the status of their relationship (ex: the first US Weekly article).
 Nonetheless, I do think he needs an image overall and should hire a publicist to change that narrative. Zayn call Scooter Braun and ask him to give you the name of the pr people that were involved in cleaning up JB’s image just before his Purpose album…
I don’t know Zayn nor do I know what is going on in his personal life. I hope that he is doing well. If he is going through something, I hope that whatever is going on bts that he is dealing with it properly, that he has a strong & supportive system and will come on top of it. Whenever he is ready, if he wants to, he can open up about that time period in his life. (LOL who am I kidding my noisy self would love for him to write another book or do an in depth filmed interview where he talks about the Z2 era and what has been going on up until now.)
As for Gigi, she cares about her image and reputation. Gigi is smart and savvy. She’s very mindful of how she is seen and perceived in the media. She knows the game and plays along. That’s smart because she is in an industry where it does matter. Zayn should have learned that from her. Her IG is curated to showcase happiness & serenity as well as her achievements & projects. She’s photographed/papped with her friends or family, attending events, on a photoshoot or going to the gym. Break up, what break up? what heartbreak? She doesn’t need a man. She’s a strong independent woman. Girl power! Her career is going extremely well and keeps on going stronger and stronger. Kudos to her. You can’t hate her or criticize her for that. She has every right to do so.
However, what I will say is at times there are things that she has done that I was like girl wtf are you doing. For example responding to things that are not even necessary to respond to which then creates press that puts her in a good light and by default directly or indirectly throws Zayn under the bus. That tweet calling out the media about linking her to a guy..Sweetie there were no articles. Nothing had been written. No outlets had picked up the pap pics of her and her friends. It was her own fans at first that had shared the pictures on their update accounts. Or that time she responded/clapped back at a Zayn stan that hadn’t mentioned her name or tagged her but shared what was deemed an unflattering  picture of her and people in the comments were making fun of her… I was like girl how did you even find this???? Are you lurking???? Anyway both times, it made the press and Zayn was dragged into it. 
Or back in January when she was papped 2 days in a row at Zayn’s apartment. For that though, I won’t blame her in the sense of she called the paps on herself like tinhats or antis would. Being seen at his apartment, led to articles..
Gigi is still a human being like any of us and has her moments but still…
I would also like to remind people that Gigi is not in any way obligated to come to Zayn’s defense when it comes to what has been said about him by the media or online from her stans or anyone else. However, in my opinion, I do think if she has the time to tweet/call out the media about articles that hadn’t yet been written, she could tweet about some disturbing articles that have been written about someone with whom she had an on/off relationship for 3 years or so. Same thing for Zayn. Zayn has come to her defense when he tweeted for people to leave her alone. Just saying….
Finally, as for the 2 US Weekly articles, in light to what Zayn has tweeted recently, I choose to think that Gigi and her camp had no part in it. 
I know that many including mutuals of mine have entertained the theory that these articles were Gigi’s doing because of Yolanda’s connection to US Weekly. 
So for arguments sake:
As I’ve said in previous conversations, prior to even Zayn tweeting, I hope that she had no part in it. If she did, then yep I would side-eye her and call this tactic sneaky & cowardly. Why go that route? Own up to it. Why use a tabloid with “sources” instead of making a proper statement via your social media or at least via your “rep” so that it’s clear that it comes from you? 
That first US Weekly article was written after she was papped at his appartement twice. Zayn had not been seen out, he hadn’t tweeted or done anything. That article went up and was picked up by many outlets. In it, they said Zayn had issues that Gigi couldn’t help him with. She tried everything, she was no longer hanging out with her friends, etc.. etc… 
The timing of the 2nd US Weekly article was mid-March two weeks or more after Zayn tweeted the “Love you” tweet to which Gigi had not responded to (she wasn’t obligated to do it either). In that article, it mainly said that Gigi has love for Zayn but he has MAJOR ISSUES (yep this time around they added major. last time it was just issues) and it’s over for good because they are not compatible. Again it was “sources”.. I was like why wait two weeks or more to write this? Why not write that article immediately after Zayn had tweeted it. The story had died down. That article was again picked up by many other news outlet.
But like I said anon, I choose to believe or at least hope that Gigi & her camp had no part in it. I would think she’s better than that to go that low and from my knowledge, it wasn’t/ or isn’t her MO. If she doesn’t address things directly usually it’s via a rep.
So when it comes to the media, I am like:
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As for my thoughts on the status of Zayn & Gigi’s relationship:
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Zayn and Gigi are two young good looking rich adults. Aesthetically/visually, Zigi was a stunning couple. Bottom line, It’s their lives, their choices. Whatever happens, happens. They are two celebrities that I don’t know personally. At the end of the day it doesn’t affect my life or livelihood.
So those are all my thoughts. Have fun reading anon!!! 
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Shadowhunters Series Finale Review
I can hardly believe it. We’ve reached the end of Shadowhunters. At last, this show has finally come to an end. It’s kind of a surreal feeling right now. I’ve spent the past three years with this show, for better and for worse (mostly worse, though) so to not have the show anymore does leave a vacancy in my cold, cold heart. But it’s okay, all good and bad things must come to an end. I’ll find something else to fill that vacancy and I can only hope that vacancy will be filled with something I actually enjoy unironically. But let’s talk about this finale.
As always, these are my thoughts and opinions on Shadowhunters. They don’t reflect anyone else’s. I’m very critical of this show. If you stan the show, that’s perfectly fine, we like what we like but just know I may be voicing opinions you don’t agree with. If you don’t like hearing opinions you disagree with, this may not be the review for you. You might want to skip the one. I’m not going to stop you from reading this (I can’t, really) but I will request you proceed with caution when reading this. If you do get offended and decide to send me a rude comment or ask regarding this, you’re free to do so. I can’t guarantee I’ll respond but you’re welcome to do so.
You know, this finale in individual moments, I didn’t completely hate. If there’s one thing this finale did right, it was making the decision to be much more character driven as opposed to plot-driven. Ideally, I would prefer a series finale to be a mix of both but this is Shadowhunters so there’s no way they’d be able to do that; it’s always one or the other and the show isn’t particularly good at either. But making their finale more about the characters as opposed to having an epic and climactic final battle was probably for the best. Revolving around the characters gave the show a chance to say good-bye to these characters. Now, if this show had properly developed these characters and the majority of these characters actually had chemistry with each other, this finale might have made me feel something. But ultimately, the extent of emotions I felt were, “that’s nice, I’m sure if you ship these characters, you probably loved that.” But I really didn’t feel anything beyond, “that’s nice” because this show has been terrible about character evolution, particularly season 3. Everything it attempted to do for its characters in the finale, while nice moments looking at it individually without the context of the rest of the show, but when looking at it all-together, it just leaves you feeling empty. Nothing it does with the characters’ endgames really hits home and makes you feel like it was earned.
What was the point of 3B?
Seriously, what even was the point of 3B. When looking at 3B as a whole, there is so much inconsequential stuff going on that could’ve been cut.
The entire Heidi plot should never have been a thing and ultimately, it had absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the season as a whole. There was this whole thing where Heidi was attempting to elevate the vampire clan into becoming actual vampires again but once she died, absolutely nothing came of it. That entire idea is just never brought up again. If we didn’t have the Heidi plot, we could’ve instead spent more time developing Maia as a burgeoning alpha, she could’ve had the alpha fight she was always supposed to have, and spent the remainder of the season working to improve vampire-werewolf relations and by the series finale, we could’ve had this truly awesome vampire-werewolf alliance.
And if the show still felt the need to end Saia for Sizzy, without the Heidi plot which started in 3A, the show could’ve had time to put development in that relationship and make it less insta-love. In 3A, Sizzy could’ve been introduced as these best friends who were helping each other out and then in 3B we could’ve seen them develop from friends-to-lovers. It still would’ve been a bit too quick for my taste, really, they should’ve been developing Sizzy from the very beginning instead of forgetting about them for 2 seasons and instead giving us a really problematic drug addiction romance storyline that did absolutely nothing for either of the parties involved.
The Asmodeus plotline in the grand scheme of things was completely pointless. It mattered very little on how things played out. So that could’ve been cut and it really wouldn’t have taken away much from the actual story. Magnus could still have gotten his magic back, he could’ve still gone back to Edom and the group could’ve still gone there to rescue him. All this time spent with Asmodeus really just took up way more time than the show was actually invested in following through with.
And of course, I’ve said this in previous reviews, Clary starting the season with Jonathon, getting rescued, then going back to Jonathon was a waste of time. She should’ve just stayed with Jonathon and the rest of Team Good spends about half the season trying to track her down and then use the remainder of the season to break Clary free of the mark.
Speaking of useless things, what even was the point of Cain beyond getting rid of the mark? Why did he show up to free Lillith and then never show up again? If the show just really needed to have Lillith in 3B (which they didn’t), she could’ve just freed herself. A third party in the form of Cain really wasn’t necessary.
There was just so much unnecessary fat in 3B. So much of it could’ve been trimmed off and we would’ve had so much more time to develop the things that actually needed to be developed. The season as a whole felt rushed but after you trim a lot of this extra stuff off, you realize that it really didn’t need to be.
Izzy Infected with Heavenly Fire
I’m of two minds on the whole Izzy thing being infected with heavenly fire. On one hand, it finally gave Izzy something to do and allowed her to have agency within the story. But on the other hand, it just didn’t make a whole lot of sense for her to be dealing with this issue of heavenly fire. She got these heavenly fire issues because she got some shrapnel embedded in her back but yet Clary, who actually go stabbed with the thing, got none of the heavenly fire? I guess it’s just one of those “there but for the grace of plot convenience” things. But ultimately, it also doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense character-wise for Izzy to be dealing with heavenly fire issues, either. The interesting thing about the whole Jace being infected with heavenly fire in the books is that, as a character, it involves him having to be careful with how he allows himself to feel things as those feelings can set off the heavenly fire as the heavenly fire’s purpose is meant to burn away any aspects of a person it perceives as evil. So something as simple as selfish desire can set it off. And that’s a huge part of Jace’s character in the books, his selfish desires. But also, they way the show wrote heavenly fire here is a little weird and I don’t really like how they use it. This entire show, the writers have been all about “downworlders aren’t evil, they’re just as human as the rest of us” but yet Izzy can’t go anywhere near someone with downworlder blood as the heavenly fire will attempt to destroy them because of their blood? And then Izzy goes to Edom as only downworlders or demons can survive in Edom for some reason? There the show goes again with for some reason dehumanizing the downworlders all of the sudden. And must the show have Izzy shooting off heavenly fire from her hands? Why must they make something as dangerous as heavenly fire so incredibly cheesy. And like always, it doesn’t last. Much like her addiction, she gets a magical fix to the problem that cures everything and she’s able to be with Simon despite not actually doing anything to earn that and it doing absolutely nothing for her character arc (not that Izzy has ever had much of a character arc to begin with).
I Guess I Should Talk About Malec
They got married. That’s about the most I have to say about them. It was something I didn’t really want for them because they have absolutely horrendous communication skills and there’s absolutely no part of me that believes their relationship has been built for last. Beyond the whole fact that they never properly deal with a conflict, for the life of me I still cannot figure out what it is that these two like about each other beyond their initial attraction. And also, they’ve only known each other for two months, three months tops. I would never even consider marrying someone I’d only known for three months. Three months is maybe around the timeframe I’d consider living with someone (and even that’s pushing it) but certainly not marriage. And can we also talk about the fact that they’re planning on getting married that night while they have Jonathon on the loose doing various villainous things, killing mundanes and shadowhunters and they don’t seem to care about that? They’re still happily planning out their wedding. There’s a pile of bodies stacking up but clearly the most important thing here is the wedding location and who to invite to it.  I’ve said it before, these characters are just absolutely the worst.
And it’s not that I don’t want to ship Malec. For the longest time while watching this show, I convinced myself I did but at around 2B, I just couldn’t ignore the things I hated about Malec anymore and just decided I was done giving them a pass for the sake of representation. But if you’re a huge Malec shipper (which I most decidedly am not) I’m sure you loved this moment. The wedding was a nice sentiment but ultimately the character development or lack thereof and certainly the fact that Matt and Harry have negative romantic chemistry with each other just really off-put the wedding for me. It’s really something when I feel more chemistry in a bromantic hug between Jace and Alec than a wedding kiss signifying true love between Magnus and Alec. I certainly don’t ship Jalec either but going off of chemistry alone, these two are way more believable together.
Clary Finally Faces Consequences
It may have taken three seasons but she was finally held accountable for something. Granted, it certainly wasn’t developed and had it been developed more, this would’ve resonated with me more but at least it’s something. The angels just out of the blue decide they don’t like Clary using that extra angelic power she has to create new runes. Apparently the final straw was her creating that Alliance rune and I’m just like, “really? That’s the final straw? Not her bringing someone back from the dead? Or creating pure sunlight out of her hand?” It’s her linking downworlders and shadowhunters together that truly makes them angry. Here we go with the show being all, “downworlders are akin to demons” for some reason again. The angels, in the form of Jocelyn (which it was nice to see Jocelyn again, it’s great that the show actually remembered that Clary wasn’t birthed from pure light) warn Clary that using her ability one more time will result in them taking away those powers. This seems to include her runes, her abilities, her ability to see the shadow world, even her memories, so of course there’s one more thing she has to use her abilities for. She has to use her abilities to finally kill Jonathon (by somothering him with angel wings, I guess, it was a weird death) so as we proceed with the wedding, she’s slowly deruned and when she leaves the Institute crying, she forgets everything. And we get a one-year time skip where she’s apparently back in art school and I’m just very curious as to how she didn’t end up homeless and seems to be doing so well for herself. She has no memory of what she’s been doing for the past few months, her apartment has been burnt down, she literally has nowhere to go. Where did she go after she walked away from the Institute?
But this was a plot point that was originally given to Simon in the books and I don’t really like that it was given to Clary here. It still would make more sense for Simon as a character to get this memory wipe as it would show Clary in much the same way that it does in the books, that consequences reaped from her impulsive behavior may not necessarily affect her but instead the people she loves. And it also shows Simon, a person who should never have been involved in the shadow world, it shows the shadow world that mundanes can be heroes in their own right.
I guess in it’s more basic form, the show’s plot point shows Clary as a hero but it doesn’t really do much for Clary as a character. It just engulfs her in more pure light of being this selfless creature in which she certainly is not, that’s just what the show likes to push. If the show wanted to go this route with Clary, allowing Clary to be the selfish, self-centered, spoiled character she really is would’ve been so much more impactful for a character arc culminating in this. It would show that selfishness, self-centeredness, while it can be seen as negative traits, if used a certain way, can also be seen as a hero’s trait and to me, that’s far more interesting of a character arc than what we actually got with Clary on the show.
The Epilogue
The epilogue was certainly nice and I didn’t hate it but again, character development to reach these points would’ve been nice. Maia fixing things between werewolves and vampires and creating Taki’s would’ve been nice if we’d gotten development for it before that that was something she was interested in. Alec being Inquisitor while a nice sentiment would’ve been better if Alec’s standing with the Clave was actually developed. It’s really hard for me to believe he became Inquisitor a year later when he’s done basically nothing in the Clave’s eyes to really earn that. Izzy being head of the Institute is nice but again, she’s done nothing really to legitimately earn that. The downworlder community working with the shadowhunter community is nice but again, it doesn’t feel earned.
As I said, I can appreciate the show going for a more character driven finale and it was probably for the best that they went that direction, but ultimately it didn’t really work as the show didn’t have the character or plot evolution to back-up anything they had going on. For the most part, this episode had “that’s nice” moments but none of it was truly impactful to me because of the lack of evolution. But I will say I did immensely like in the finale that they actually made Meliorn into a character and not set dressing as they typically do with him. It’s nice that they gave him this really kind of vain but yet loyal personality trait. We hadn’t really seen that before and it showed this foundation of where I could understand why he and Izzy were once a thing. Him and Izzy were probably the most believable of all of her relationships. I’d give the finale a B-. I’m feeling generous. It wasn't too terrible, filled with nice moments but ultimately didn’t really culminate into anything meaningful. This was probably the best we were going to get with this show.
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appreciation post edition numero two
((ooc post)) 
HEY YALL IM BACK. unless u live under a rock (or fine, maybe this is your first selection), u would know i was @jynsongxvii during the dreaded obscurantism of ocnet selections, aka dom’s selection. back then, i posted a little thing to boost morale up when some anon stuff seemed to be getting hairy, so i’m doing it again. i should actually be writing my next crooks fic but,,, i mean,,, yeah, whatever. yall will live with the wait if you’re keeping up with that. let’s get started. 
last time i think i did all the girls cause it was pretty early on in the selection, but considering levels of activity at the moment, the fact that the end is getting nearer and the other fact that i’m kinda busy + have fics to write, i will have to keep it brief. sorry if i get ur name wrong, but i tried to remember. this is based on personal interaction and what i’ve managed to get from your characters, so, yeh. if we haven’t talked much i will focus on oc. ALPHABETIC ORDER. no fights.
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me ↠ i go first. i am water. i am also awesome. ALSO also, i suck. all the typos and CAPS. i will send u all the reaction pics i have compiled and u will realize i am a meme. decent-ish writing? crooks trash. i called froy gutierrez fort once because of auTOCORRECT HATING ME. never shuts up. probably should. my face is okay.
anna aka @ladyaadamaier ↠ german secret princess. lonely allegra that lived happily with the stars. tried her best to have two ocs and both reached elite so ayeee, u prevailed. 
anya aka @camille-marshall ↠ tHE SARGENT. or lieutenant actually. i am bad with military and i am not going to do more research, okay? the appreciator of all my caps and typos. has an awkward bean as an oc that must learn to stop being elsa with the “conceal don’t feel” vibe and--JUST ACCEPT U LOVE THE PALACE MARSHALL. gave us the gift of drunk marshall as well.  gOT INTO THE COLLEGE SHE WANTED YEET.  ur face is lovely.
bethia aka @fleur-quinn ↠ seems really nice ooc. has hosted an oc birthday for the redhead star with a fake twin. it’s been interesting competing against u for the side prince so far. nice oc fights on the rp. A+
brianna aka @eloiseduval ↠ the ™ to my ™. i’m glad we’ve fINALLY been able to get close in this selection. u are the coolest of beans but need to actually talk to people more. anyhow. lovely fics, like, yes they are good sHUt uP. always has nice ocs and trying her best. also adamant crooks shipper, so thanks. please give her love. she’s just playing the game. ur face is lovely.
lena aka @claraeclair ↠ super nice ooc. her oc gave all the sweets. was a literal cinnamon roll in and out of character. also, ik u and u are a sNEAKY ONE. she knows what i’m talking about.
simone aka @victoria-seaberg ↠ cracked mal so she doesn’t hate her oc. very active. we haven’t talked much but you’re friends with lovely people ik and it’s pretty clear you’re a literal cinnamon roll bringing all the support. keep that up. her oc is not to be messed with.
skye aka @ladyvenusvale ↠  pInK hAiR for the beauty guru now. has hosted an oc party too! with taylor swift which i technically owe thE DUET ™ for, so thanks skye. also ZEDAYA. like, yes. thank you. if you want oc drama, ask her help. she will do what she can to deliver. ur face is lovely.
zara aka @mistylane059   ↠ wine ™ . has included guards like me! guards are always nice. put a lot of effort on including her maids in fics. also, was my secret santa wuu~ 
some people i will mention because ik them lol. 
cass aka @memeselectionoc ↠ memes. must i say more? i mean, memes guys. mEMES. pretty sure she sends love to people because i am a detective and figure stuff like that out. wants meme not hate. ur face is lovely. oc maya got her bff to date her and was part of the awkward hand-gestures club with... 
issy aka @evelyn-fenton ↠ yes part of that club (i broke alphabet cause i needed these two together). awkward writer bean that had brotp with maya. got herself a guy before leaving. DREW AWESOME CLOVE AS MY SS, LIKE? deserves all the acknowledgment. gOT INTO THE COLLEGE SHE WANTED TOO YEET. ur face is lovely.
chris aka @phaniecastello  ↠ AWESOME. IMPROVEMENT IN WRITING ENGLISH. so prOUD. grandma that everyone should love. had a super nice oc and is super nice ooc. the sweetest bean. loretta was crazy. ur face is lovely.
I THINK SYL? aka @vaticancameos333 ↠ I BELIEVE YOUR OC WAS JORDAN? IF NOT I AM SORRY TO HAVE MISTAKEN YOU BUT,,, has been keeping up with my crooks fics even tho her character isn’t active anymore and I NEEDED U IN THE APPRECIATION POST BECAUSE THAT IS SO NICE OF YOU. THANKS. also i followed ur blog through clove and it’s one of the things that keeps my dash alive. A+
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grace and claire aka... um, lets just tag @nathaniel-schreave & @brooks-schreave  ↠ FICS. SHIPS. STORYLINES. PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT WHILE BEING IN SCHOOL. trying their best as anyone who is prince does and as all we do as contestants. lots of characters! H U G E improvement from dom the brick. one of them is the reason i will never forget the alamo. ur faces are lovely.
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that has been my psa. ik there is stress sometimes guys, I BREATHE STRESS. but let’s be civil, not bitter. remember hannah montanna. see a vine compilation when u are upset. pray if u believe in God. IDK. even talk it out civilly. that’s cool too. but don’t throw blind jabs at each other cause that’s just gonna get us all upset and maybe you’ll make someone who isn’t at fault feel bad. sending love yet again, i will shut up now.
water.
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